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User ID: 69532409 United States 09/20/2015 05:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're not folding enough, raise your standards. Learn your opponents and apply leverage. No one has ever seen a perfect circle, nor a perfectly straight line, yet everyone knows what a circle and a straight line are. Perceived circles or lines are not exactly circular or straight, and true circles and lines could never be detected since by definition they are sets of infinitely small points. |
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(OP) User ID: 70255346 United States 09/20/2015 05:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tonight I was in a tournment , blinds are up to 200/400 I have 1400 left. I'm big blind (cost me 400), it goes around I have 3 callers so far I'm last to act I have pockets queens. I move all in ,get one caller from one of the bigger stacks he has king 7 . The flop is 4 K 4 turn is a 7 river is a 4..did I make the right call?Its just one more example of the the cards no going my way. I'm just sick of having a decent hand and watch the flop turn out terrible for me when ever a decent pot is at stake... Banned often |
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(OP) User ID: 70255346 United States 09/20/2015 06:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is another example , I sit down at the cash table with 40 bucks. First hand get dealt pockets aces, I make it 10 to go. (Mind you its 25/50 cent blinds) I get one caller , he raised to 20 ,I go all in for 40.He instanta calls. He has pocket kings, flop comes out A 3 7 . Turn 9 river 10 ...he beats me with a fucking flush! Banned often |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 67995362 United States 09/20/2015 06:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is another example , I sit down at the cash table with 40 bucks. First hand get dealt pockets aces, I make it 10 to go. (Mind you its 25/50 cent blinds) I get one caller , he raised to 20 ,I go all in for 40.He instanta calls. He has pocket kings, flop comes out A 3 7 . Turn 9 river 10 ...he beats me with a fucking flush! Quoting: zzbudzz sounds like the stuff that happened to me when i used to play online poker. Online when I would start seeing 4 running cards of the same suit or 4 card straights on the board every other hand I would stop playing because that is when the idiots that play every hand no matter what cards they have would start sucking out. Always go all in pre flop with pocket kings or aces to make them pay to try and suck out on you. No cheap flops with Aces or Kings because you will win head to head over 90% of the time with those cards but the percentage goes down the more people get to see the flop. Also don't over play ace king because it's just ace high and if you miss the flop what are you going to do? You can trick someone by playing ace king suited like normal cards and catching a flush or full house and the reason is because they will be thinking there is no way you have ace king because you would have raised. Similarly don't raise with small pairs just call but if it's raised to much pre flop then fold because what you want with a small pair is to fish for a set and you wont catch the set to often so it's not worth it if it costs to much to see the flop. You can really confuse people with a small set and potentially get all their chips if they catch a pair of aces or kings. This kind of poker is slow but when you catch a monster there will be more people in the hand to pay you off. |
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(OP) User ID: 70255346 United States 09/20/2015 06:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is another example , I sit down at the cash table with 40 bucks. First hand get dealt pockets aces, I make it 10 to go. (Mind you its 25/50 cent blinds) I get one caller , he raised to 20 ,I go all in for 40.He instanta calls. He has pocket kings, flop comes out A 3 7 . Turn 9 river 10 ...he beats me with a fucking flush! Quoting: zzbudzz sounds like the stuff that happened to me when i used to play online poker. Online when I would start seeing 4 running cards of the same suit or 4 card straights on the board every other hand I would stop playing because that is when the idiots that play every hand no matter what cards they have would start sucking out. Always go all in pre flop with pocket kings or aces to make them pay to try and suck out on you. No cheap flops with Aces or Kings because you will win head to head over 90% of the time with those cards but the percentage goes down the more people get to see the flop. Also don't over play ace king because it's just ace high and if you miss the flop what are you going to do? You can trick someone by playing ace king suited like normal cards and catching a flush or full house and the reason is because they will be thinking there is no way you have ace king because you would have raised. Similarly don't raise with small pairs just call but if it's raised to much pre flop then fold because what you want with a small pair is to fish for a set and you wont catch the set to often so it's not worth it if it costs to much to see the flop. You can really confuse people with a small set and potentially get all their chips if they catch a pair of aces or kings. This kind of poker is slow but when you catch a monster there will be more people in the hand to pay you off. Thanks for the response. I'm know i'm not the greatest poker player ,but alot of the stuff you posted I already do. I've learned the hard way with shitty AK and AQ. I know alot of the odds like only get a set with your pocket pair 1 out of 8 times (on average). I guess I'm asking questions and venting at the sametime. Just setting back watching everyone else getting flushes, fullhouses and quads tonight. When the best hand I get is a ace high st8 , that got detroyed by a fullhouse ( he flopped it I put him on trips ,bad read on my part but he was all in with only 6 bucks so...) that is something like .09% or 1087 to 1 . I felt the queen was coming it did , but i was drawing dead. The best hand i had the whole night, like I said saw 2 people catch quads ..sick! Why can't that be me ..maybe I need a witch doctor to whip me up some luck..LOL Banned often |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67995362 United States 09/20/2015 06:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is another example , I sit down at the cash table with 40 bucks. First hand get dealt pockets aces, I make it 10 to go. (Mind you its 25/50 cent blinds) I get one caller , he raised to 20 ,I go all in for 40.He instanta calls. He has pocket kings, flop comes out A 3 7 . Turn 9 river 10 ...he beats me with a fucking flush! Quoting: zzbudzz sounds like the stuff that happened to me when i used to play online poker. Online when I would start seeing 4 running cards of the same suit or 4 card straights on the board every other hand I would stop playing because that is when the idiots that play every hand no matter what cards they have would start sucking out. Always go all in pre flop with pocket kings or aces to make them pay to try and suck out on you. No cheap flops with Aces or Kings because you will win head to head over 90% of the time with those cards but the percentage goes down the more people get to see the flop. Also don't over play ace king because it's just ace high and if you miss the flop what are you going to do? You can trick someone by playing ace king suited like normal cards and catching a flush or full house and the reason is because they will be thinking there is no way you have ace king because you would have raised. Similarly don't raise with small pairs just call but if it's raised to much pre flop then fold because what you want with a small pair is to fish for a set and you wont catch the set to often so it's not worth it if it costs to much to see the flop. You can really confuse people with a small set and potentially get all their chips if they catch a pair of aces or kings. This kind of poker is slow but when you catch a monster there will be more people in the hand to pay you off. Thanks for the response. I'm know i'm not the greatest poker player ,but alot of the stuff you posted I already do. I've learned the hard way with shitty AK and AQ. I know alot of the odds like only get a set with your pocket pair 1 out of 8 times (on average). I guess I'm asking questions and venting at the sametime. Just setting back watching everyone else getting flushes, fullhouses and quads tonight. When the best hand I get is a ace high st8 , that got detroyed by a fullhouse ( he flopped it I put him on trips ,bad read on my part but he was all in with only 6 bucks so...) that is something like .09% or 1087 to 1 . I felt the queen was coming it did , but i was drawing dead. The best hand i had the whole night, like I said saw 2 people catch quads ..sick! Why can't that be me ..maybe I need a witch doctor to whip me up some luck..LOL Take a break for a little while you are getting frustrated and you should never play frustrated. |
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(OP) User ID: 70255346 United States 09/20/2015 07:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone who plays a lot has a bad run eventually. It can last days or years. You're just running bad and that has a tendency to put you on constant tilt. Mix it up would be my advice. Change your style. Get overly aggressive or turn into a grinding machine. It'll pass. TID Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13723539 Thanks again for the response. Yes, Like I stated earlier this run of shit luck started about July 2014 and hasn't let up yet. It just weird that the bad luck started right after have two damn great nights of poker ( great for me) then BLAM can't win for losing and losing in strange ways like not pairing the board all night?! Who in the hell has that happen too? I don't play often maybe once or twice a month, we have a big game once a month. It funny because tonight someone mentioned my super lucky streak in that tournament... Oh, here is another bad card story I get KJ raise to 6 bucks get 2 callers flop is KJ7 I go all in, get called by the same two turn is 8 flop is a 2 got beat by my neighbor with 6 4 of spades ( what the fuck is he playing 64 of spades for) ..he got a flush. I guess I should have raised more preflop, but that was after getting nothing on the flop all night so it was hard to move all in preflop. plus KJ isn't that great of a hand... fuked again! Last Edited by zzbudzz on 09/20/2015 07:17 AM Banned often |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68474273 United States 09/20/2015 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone who plays a lot has a bad run eventually. It can last days or years. You're just running bad and that has a tendency to put you on constant tilt. Mix it up would be my advice. Change your style. Get overly aggressive or turn into a grinding machine. It'll pass. TID Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13723539 Streaks are real and can last however long in either direction. If you are playing online, play for fake money until the streak reverses. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68624872 United States 09/20/2015 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a longtime player, both live and online you have to entertain this idea. As Sklansky said, "Anytime your opponent plays his cards wrong, you gain". Of course we want to play as solid as possible, however poker is a game of missing information. It is possible that there is more information in your games that you are missing out on. If you depend on luck and your cards holding up then yes, your personal bad luck streak may last your entire lifetime. It is unlikely because you should get a royal flush in 650k hands or so.... haha It's possible you're easy to read making their decisions against you easier. Your question is a good one. It's hard to theorize why its happening. I've ran bad for over a year, and I'm talking 20K in losses or more :( There's a reason. Solid play is necessary, however, you may be playing too tight. |