Something odd I've noticed while capturing packets...

Great sleuthing OP!

Wouldn't the receivers be overloaded by the volumes of data if done on a massive scale?

Last Edited by PhellowEarthling on 09/15/2015 04:12 AM

Too bad you don't understand...Sheepy.

One thing that was drilled into my brain both through experience and intelligent mentors was "if it seems to good to be true, it IS", and of course NOTHING is free.

How many "free" apps have you downloaded for your smartphone?

Ever try to delete the 'google' apps on an android? GOOD LUCK TO YOU! And if you think you have gps turned off, or wifi, or even 4G data, all you have really turned off is your own awareness and usability of those functions. According to my own experimentation, a smart phone is continuously transmitting 4G ,3G or in most cases 2G data. It is also scanning for wifi connections even when wi fi is disabled. One of the things it is recording and transmitting is your location,which seems to be really important. I am almost positive that smart phones are continuously transmitting audio, bio telemetry on the user and users in close proximity to it and GPS position to google.I am equally almost certain that this information is used not only for targeted advertising , but to create a profile on the user. I had a lawyer tell me once that the government knows more about people than they know about themselves, and their memory is 100%.

Now here's the clincher. A smart phone is a the absolute pinnacle of technology available to the consumer. It is a powerful computer ,gps, bio telemetry sensor, dynamic entertainment device, and telephone that can talk to anywhere on the planet from just about anywhere on the planet. They didn't give you this for 150 dollars because they were trying to be nice to you. they gave it to you because they are exploiting it's function.

No. In a word, no. Before they would release the technology they would already have the infrastructure in place. Every single digital transmission of data is recorded and source referenced.

40 years ago if you had offered people a device with the function of a smart phone nearly everyone would have said FUCK NO, Don't even turn it on near me!
PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN UP THEIR FREEDOM FOR THE "convenience" of technology.Thye know where you are, what you are asying, and who you are saying it to. Thye know every website you have ever looked at and they have a very accurate profile on you, they can predict not only what you are likely to buy, but what you are likely to do at any given time.It is an electronic prison, and it is nearly impossible to totally escape. I went to the wilderness recently, took along a cell phone to take photos and videos. I was in a place that has no cell service at all and yet this phone was intermittently linking to a 2g internet connection. The signal strength was maxed out. In other words even when you are in a place where you have no service, THEIR service and data collection is still functioning. The only sure way to disable a smart phone is to take the battery out of it and put it in a metal box that is grounded.

And yet our intelligence agencies can't weed out the ISIS supporters hiding among us. I would think this technology make it rather easy to do so?

Everyone should have one of these! [link to blockitpocket.com (secure)]
Only take device out when you need or in a location you don't care if your location is recorded. DO IT! Or get rid of the fuckin phone! (personal tracking device)

IDW you seem to be very knowledgeable about these matters.
Please tell us more.

I have my home wireless disabled a great 90% of the time.
I have no mobile device be it smart or stupid, or whatever.

Great thread.

I don't know...

bump - true.

What's a program I can you to watch the traffic on my router?

And what should I be looking for?

"Know thy enemy"
It seems we (human consumers) don't appreciate the maxim,
whereas those who use us,
integrate it into every 'business' decision.

[link to learn-networking.com]

Do the Communist Chinese really care that
the old lady is at the local Walmart?
If they do, I'd say they have WAYYYYYY
too much time on their hands.

Someone asked about firewalls... Comodo is an excellent software firewall with some good basic traffic monitoring tools.

Get a router with a firewall. Learn, learn, learn. A search engine is enough to take you from no knowledge to programming yourself a steel door in hours. And it's not like this isn't worth your time.

I don;t know if you can spoof your MAC on a smartphone (there an app for that?) but if so do it, and you can most definitely do so for your routers and computers. Just cycle it every so often. My laptop's wireless card currently thinks it's a piece of fiber optic testing instrumentation made in New York.

There is no doubt that cell phones are a major personal security exposure, BUT...

All cell phones are basically ham radios. They can only transmit so far and proper location identification is critical to how they work. The phone has to know where it is to know what radio frequency for what tower to call and the phone company has to know where the phone is to know what tower to use to reach it. It's that simple.

You can't defeat the location services on a cell phone because that is how they work. It's why they are called "cell" phones. They constantly look for and switch to whatever radio "cell" they detect as being the strongest. They only way the phone company won't know generally where you are every minute of every day is if you turn the thing off and take the battery out.

Last Edited by Resister on 09/15/2015 08:05 AM

exactly....so what does that tell you....hmmmmmm?




5 stars OP

The shit is practically modern day wizardry & alchemy.

If ya don't know how & why your cell works, you can rest assured that it is being used against you.

And yes that goes for your Pc as well.

If you can't pick apart every piece of code up & down then you can count on someone squeezing something in there that you would just plain not approve of.

A Pc & cell is just a modern day Trojan horse modified to infiltrate the individual. Wether it be thoughts, ideas & or insubordination.

The shit is practically modern day wizardry & alchemy.

If ya don't know how & why your cell works, you can rest assured that it is being used against you.

And yes that goes for your Pc as well.

If you can't pick apart every piece of code up & down then you can count on someone squeezing something in there that you would just plain not approve of.

A Pc & cell is just a modern day Trojan horse modified to infiltrate the individual. Wether it be thoughts, ideas & or insubordination.

Double post, active mods delete this post & my double if any are around..

not every connection to china is nefarious.
there are app developers and advert servers
and all kinds of reasons an app would
connect to a chinese ip address.

start by just looking at your router's firewall logs.
all the unsolicited attempted connections your router
is blocking.

Using IDS AppID Detection, we've been noticing a significant increase in transnational data traffic communicating with multiple common "smartphone apps".

Also lots of sneaky rootkits and undetectable(?) "spyware" being detected(?) all over the place too. Primarily increasing tension since ~ Dec. 23rd 2015.

It might be much easier to use the devices to spy...24/7 coverage then.

This is part of a global spying system being implemented... Designed to target and trace even if you have such things turned off. The chips are largely being produced in China and recently there has been outrage due to the fact equipment can be hijacked. The hijackable chips are even in drones and missiles.


All IT ' professionals ' really need to keep up with security, trends and know where the market is going....

How many tech security companies have considered foreign languages and numerical systems? The worlds hackers have probably been having a field day for a while now.