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Why dont warmongers believe in the end of the world?

 
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Why dont warmongers believe in the end of the world?
For the most part they dont, with a few exceptions like fundamental christians. But most warmongers believe war will make everything ok in the world which makes no sense to me. Its war that will bring on the end of the world.
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Re: Why dont warmongers believe in the end of the world?
do warmongers make money off world endings?
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DOWN with warmongers!!!!!!
They're bad people. All they do is sit around thinking of crappy stuff to do, and for what? What since does it make. NO!!!! I can just hear them, "My piece of pie is bigger than your" And "My dad can beat your dad up"
I say their dumb dumbs and they are going to get a major time out!!!!!
Who's with me?
That's Americas troub, we like to solve our issues on line instead of where it really counts, in the Pres' house, right next to the "brocolli" and the "good biking helmet"
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Re: Why dont warmongers believe in the end of the world?
...they have underground cities across the planet in many countries filled with lots of beer and hookers.
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...they have underground cities across the planet in many countries filled with lots of beer and hookers.
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Re: Why dont warmongers believe in the end of the world?
because they're minds are blinded..and irrespective of whether you acknowledge a spiritual realm... they're is right now a spiritual war being fought ..ie the four horseman of the apocalypse are active right now ...in the bible Jesus is quoted as saying that "those who live by the sword die by the sword ...even though in Mossaic Law the Hebrews were commanded 'an eye for an eye..Jesus arrival and subsequent death was a ransom for all and sacrificeses of animals and such would no longer be required...He told us through the scriptures that we or those following Him are to be in the world but no part of it ....ie politically "and it reads "we are to love our enemies" which indicates we do not kill those we love

Time is short people ...there is not much time left to find the truth and learn to accept and live by it. search for it now!!

ps I have no interest in posts that wish to vent their personal opinions ie religious or otherwise ...I am simply stating what is already written and we have been warned aforetime!

we are no longer subject to much of the Mosasic Law as given to Moses..Jesus has already clarified His reason for coming into the world..and He unequivaically states in regard to blood guilt "he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword". The soul that is sinning (including violence) will itself die

Please do not be fooled. This world's political systems run by man and backed by the evil One is to end very very shortly.
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i agree 148501 , very much so do i agree.
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Be On Guard Against “Peace and Security” as Devised by Nations

Whenever it is that they are saying: “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them just as the pang of distress upon a pregnant woman; and they will by no means escape.
THESSALONIANS 5:3.

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Nigerian bishops condemn 'politics of acrimony' that chokes democracy
9/25/2006
Catholic Online (www.catholic.org)

CALABAR, Nigeria (Catholic Online) – A true democracy can only thrive in an atmosphere of peace and security, said the bishops of Nigeria, condemning the “politics of acrimony, exclusion and violence” that has marred the nation’s cultural landscape

[link to www.catholic.org]

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09/28/2006



FM Bakoyannis addresses UNSC thematic debate on peace and security

Greek Foreign Minister Dora Bakoyannis addressed in New York on Wednesday a thematic debate of the United Nations Security Council, on a foreign ministers level, on the UN's cooperation with regional organizations in maintaining peace and security.

Presenting the Greek SC presidency's theme Bakoyannis noted:



"I would like to begin the debate by making a statement in my national capacity.



"First of all I wish to express my gratitude to the Secretary-General for his presence here today. We greatly appreciate his tireless efforts to bring increasing significance to the issue of the relationship and cooperation between the United Nations and regional organizations in maintaining peace and security.

[link to www.ana.gr]
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Re: Why dont warmongers believe in the end of the world?
both sides of a war buy bullet$$$$$
"If there is a new fascism, it won't come from skinheads and punks; it will come from people who eat granola and think they know how the world should be." - Brian Eno
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Re: Why dont warmongers believe in the end of the world?
For the most part they dont, with a few exceptions like fundamental christians. But most warmongers believe war will make everything ok in the world which makes no sense to me. Its war that will bring on the end of the world.
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it's evangelical "christians" who believe in war
NOT fundamental christians
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Yes, indeed, for in our era a third world war using such weapons would signify nothing less than world suicide, with people exploded into virtual nothingness or perishing from the aftereffects of a nuclear holocaust. Keen-sighted politicians and military commanders painfully sense that fact. They do not want to become responsible for such a global disaster. Thus, diametrically opposed political systems will find it convenient to come to an accord, yes, to follow the worldly-wise philosophy of “live and let live.”

3 Nevertheless, the nations do not fully trust one another. As a precaution, they maintain their military establishments at full strength. Hence, will it be because of a sincere, genuine love for one another as members of the same human family that rulers will unite in making the proclamation of “Peace and security” for all the world of humankind? No, but it will be to allay the justifiable fears of the people.—
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However, the clergy’s backing of the loudly proclaimed political arrangement does not mean that the God of the universe, including our earth, will support it. In their religious edifices, the clergy may offer up long and loud prayers in the hearing of their religious patronizers and ask the divine blessing upon the measures taken by the political element for international peace and security. But are all such solemn prayers, to which listening congregations append a vigorous “Amen,” acceptable to the God of this universe? Can he be at peace with a religiously divided world, the prayers of which for peace and security are modeled according to the disagreeing religious sects and denominations?
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Re: Why dont warmongers believe in the end of the world?
many people have rejected the statechurch

but, you won't hear about them in the media
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cause if the end came they would hav no one to fight
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16 And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Har–Ma·ged′on.

17 And the seventh one poured out his bowl upon the air. At this a loud voice issued out of the sanctuary from the throne, saying: “It has come to pass!” 18 And lightnings and voices and thunders occurred, and a great earthquake occurred such as had not occurred since men came to be on the earth, so extensive an earthquake, so great. 19 And the great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell; and Babylon the Great was remembered in the sight of God, to give her the cup of the wine of the anger of his wrath. 20 Also, every island fled, and mountains were not found. 21 And a great hail with every stone about the weight of a talent descended out of heaven upon the men, and the men blasphemed God due to the plague of hail, because the plague of it was unusually great.

17 And one of the seven angels that had the seven bowls came and spoke with me, saying: “Come, I will show you the judgment upon the great harlot who sits on many waters, 2 with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, whereas those who inhabit the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication.”

3 And he carried me away in [the power of the] spirit into a wilderness. And I caught sight of a woman sitting upon a scarlet-colored wild beast that was full of blasphemous names and that had seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and was adorned with gold and precious stone and pearls and had in her hand a golden cup that was full of disgusting things and the unclean things of her fornication. 5 And upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery: “Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.” 6 And I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus.

Well, on catching sight of her I wondered with great wonderment. 7 And so the angel said to me: “Why is it you wondered? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the wild beast that is carrying her and that has the seven heads and the ten horns: 8 The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction. And when they see how the wild beast was, but is not, and yet will be present, those who dwell on the earth will wonder admiringly, but their names have not been written upon the scroll of life from the founding of the world.

9 “Here is where the intelligence that has wisdom comes in: The seven heads mean seven mountains, where the woman sits on top. 10 And there are seven kings: five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet arrived, but when he does arrive he must remain a short while. 11 And the wild beast that was but is not, it is also itself an eighth [king], but springs from the seven, and it goes off into destruction.

12 “And the ten horns that you saw mean ten kings, who have not yet received a kingdom, but they do receive authority as kings one hour with the wild beast. 13 These have one thought, and so they give their power and authority to the wild beast. 14 These will battle with the Lamb, but, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them. Also, those called and chosen and faithful with him [will do so].”

15 And he says to me: “The waters that you saw, where the harlot is sitting, mean peoples and crowds and nations and tongues. 16 And the ten horns that you saw, and the wild beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire. 17 For God put [it] into their hearts to carry out his thought, even to carry out [their] one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished. 18 And the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.”

18 After these things I saw another angel descending from heaven, with great authority; and the earth was lighted up from his glory. 2 And he cried out with a strong voice, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, and she has become a dwelling place of demons and a lurking place of every unclean exhalation and a lurking place of every unclean and hated bird! 3 For because of the wine of the anger of her fornication all the nations have fallen [victim], and the kings of the earth committed fornication with her, and the traveling merchants of the earth became rich due to the power of her shameless luxury.”

4 And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. 6 Render to her even as she herself rendered, and do to her twice as much, yes, twice the number of the things she did; in the cup in which she put a mixture put twice as much of the mixture for her. 7 To the extent that she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning. For in her heart she keeps saying, ‘I sit a queen, and I am no widow, and I shall never see mourning.’ 8 That is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire, because Jehovah God, who judged her, is strong.
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Re: Why dont warmongers believe in the end of the world?
you skipped the part where it said that "evil spirits" gathered them to war, NOT God
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What form will this significant cry of “Peace and security!” take? It is here mentioned as being outstanding just before the sudden destruction of those making the cry. Hence, it will have to be something more pronounced than any previous declarations by world leaders. No doubt it will be on an earth-wide scale. Yet, it will be no more than a facade. Underneath, nothing will really have changed. Selfishness, hatred, crime, family breakdown, immorality, sickness, sorrow, and death will still be here. That is why the coming cry will mislead those who are not awake to Bible prophecy. But it need not mislead you, if you have been awake to the meaning of world events and have heeded the prophetic warnings in God’s Word.—Mark 13:32-37; Luke 21:34-36.

32 “Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father. 33 Keep looking, keep awake, for YOU do not know when the appointed time is. 34 It is like a man traveling abroad that left his house and gave the authority to his slaves, to each one his work, and commanded the doorkeeper to keep on the watch. 35 Therefore keep on the watch, for YOU do not know when the master of the house is coming, whether late in the day or at midnight or at cockcrowing or early in the morning; 36 in order that when he arrives suddenly, he does not find YOU sleeping. 37 But what I say to YOU I say to all, Keep on the watch.”

Mark 13:32-37

34 “But pay attention to yourselves that YOUR hearts never become weighed down with overeating and heavy drinking and anxieties of life, and suddenly that day be instantly upon YOU 35 as a snare. For it will come in upon all those dwelling upon the face of all the earth. 36 Keep awake, then, all the time making supplication that YOU may succeed in escaping all these things that are destined to occur, and in standing before the Son of man.”
Luke 21:34-36

In regard to the evil sprits gathering them

23 “So the great dragon was thrown down, that serpent of old that led the whole world astray, whose name is Satan, or the Devil—thrown down to the earth, and his angels with him. Then I [John] heard a voice in heaven proclaiming aloud: ‘This is the hour of victory for our God, the hour of his sovereignty and power, when his Christ comes to his rightful rule! For the accuser of our brothers is overthrown, who day and night accused them before our God. By the sacrifice of the Lamb they have conquered him, and by the testimony which they uttered; for they did not hold their lives too dear to lay them down. Rejoice then, you heavens and you that dwell in them! But woe to you, earth and sea, for the Devil has come down to you in great fury, knowing that his time is short!’”—Revelation 12:5-12, NE; also The Jerusalem Bible.
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they don't believe in it because they are the ones that have tricked you into thinking that the end of the world is coming. that way you won't care as much when they lock everybody up in persuance of terminal war.
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Scoffers at the Bible may take this idea of Satan the Devil and his demon angels being thrown down to the vicinity of our earth as a laughing matter. But can they laugh and are they laughing at the “woe” that both earth and sea are experiencing today? No, those scoffers cannot see Satan the Devil with their natural eyes, but they have reason to know that he and his legions of demon angels are around, in our neighborhood. If they do not believe it, then let them answer why it is that the League of Nations that was organized shortly after the end of World War I did not prove to be an international organization for world peace and security.

Why did it not prevent the rise of war-minded political dictators in Europe?

Why did it not prevent the outbreak of World War II in 1939, the war that climaxed with the detonating of two atomic bombs with woe for the inhabitants of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

Also, Why is it that the United Nations organization, since its formation at the close of World War II in 1945, has not prevented all the wars and revolutions, territorial aggressions, and other political turmoils till the present time?

Why is it that we have such frightening buildup of the great world powers for nuclear warfare?

Why the money crisis?

Why troubles continually between labor and capital, even between government employees and government?

Why all the fanatical nationalism? Why all the racial strife and prejudices?

Why the increasing of crime?

Why the breakdown of morals?

Why the epidemic increase of social diseases?

Why the ruining of mankind’s earthly home by pollution?

Why the growing shortage of food for earth’s increasing population?

Why, as Jesus Christ predicted for our time, “upon the earth distress of nations in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves, men fainting with fear and with foreboding of what is coming on the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken”? (Luke 21:25, 26, Revised Standard Version)

For every effect there is a cause. What is the real cause of all these distressing effects?

25 “Also, there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and [its] agitation, 26 while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. (Luke 21:25, 26, Revised Standard Version)
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Re: Why dont warmongers believe in the end of the world?
sure, the demons know their time is short
and they want to kill as many humans as they can in a short time
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Thankyou User ID: 114312

Phew!! I was beginning to get worried that the point was being missed by all.
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Re: Why dont warmongers believe in the end of the world?
you'd be surprised how many agree with you
but, forget to post
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Well that is reassuring to know

Although As for any ridiculers reading please take careful note:

3 For YOU know this first, that in the last days there will come ridiculers with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires 4 and saying: “Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep [in death], all things are continuing exactly as from creation’s beginning.”

5 For, according to their wish, this fact escapes their notice, that there were heavens from of old and an earth standing compactly out of water and in the midst of water by the word of God; 6 and by those [means] the world of that time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water. 7 But by the same word the heavens and the earth that are now are stored up for fire and are being reserved to the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly men.
2 Peter 3:3-7.
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Well, you guys have really let the warmongers have it!
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Re: Why dont warmongers believe in the end of the world?
Shortly, “crazed” members of the UN will be maneuvered by Jehovah to turn on false religion, as described at Revelation 17:16: “These will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire.” This will mark the start of the great tribulation that is referred to at Matthew 24:21 and that will climax at Armageddon, the war of the great day of God the Almighty. Like ancient Babylon, Babylon the Great will meet up with the judgment pronounced at Jeremiah 51:13, 25: “‘O woman residing on abounding waters, abundant in treasures, your end has come, the measure of your profit making. Here I am against you, O ruinous mountain,’ is the utterance of Jehovah, ‘you ruiner of the whole earth; and I will stretch out my hand against you and roll you away from the crags and make you a burnt-out mountain.’”

Corrupt, warmongering nations will follow false religion into destruction as Jehovah’s day of vengeance catches up with them also.

Jehovah's messengers are send out shortly a secong worldwide message warning the world that governments are to turn on all religions, which will then be closely followed with the beginning of the Great Tribulation, ushering in Armageddon.

PLEASE LOOK OUT FOR IT TAKE NOTE AND GOD BLESS.

AS THE WORLD IS VERY SHORTLY GOING TO EXPERIENCE UNPRECEDENTED DISTRESS.
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Re: Why dont warmongers believe in the end of the world?
you mean the beast will attack the "woman" that's been riding it?
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Why did it not prevent the outbreak of World War II in 1939, the war that climaxed with the detonating of two atomic bombs with woe for the inhabitants of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
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The "inhabitants" of Hiroshima and Nagasaki earned the priviledge of being the first to have their flesh burnt off by the searing heat produced from nuclear fission. They cheered with each bomb dropped on Korean villagers, and each Korean girl sodomized by a Japanese military officer, and with the death of each Chinese, and with the numerous other activities. Had the Japanese had the moral courage to demand that their government cease and desist its acts of violence, then engaged in civil disobedience if the government refused, then overthrown the government it it still continued its acts of war, the whole thing could have been prevented.

However, the point is moot since both cities were on General LeMay's list of 30 cities to be fire-bombed and destroyed, just like the 87,000 inhabitants of Tokyo died.

The use of two nuclear devices spared the lives of 2.5 to 3.0 Million Japanese civilians, prior to the landing of Allied forces, which would have resulted in the loss of another 0.5 to 1.0 Million Japanese civilians.
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