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More than 26 million Illegal Immigrants on Welfare food stamps and section 8, YOU are paying the bill!

 
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More than 26 million Illegal Immigrants on Welfare food stamps and section 8, YOU are paying the bill!
That Figure is far Higher than US CITIZENS.

Not only are they here Illegally, you are picking up their living expenses...


Seriously, Why are you not Rioting in the streets?



More than half of the nation's immigrants receive some kind of government welfare, a figure that's far higher than the native-born population's, according to a report to be released Wednesday.

About 51% of immigrant-led households receive at least one kind of welfare benefit, including Medicaid, food stamps, school lunches and housing assistance, compared to 30% for native-led households, according to the report from the Center for Immigration Studies, a group that advocates for lower levels of immigration.

Those numbers increase for households with children, with 76% of immigrant-led households receiving welfare, compared to 52% for the native-born.

The findings are sure to fuel debate on the presidential campaign trail as Republican candidates focus on changing the nation's immigration laws, from calls for mass deportations to ending birthright citizenship.

Steven Camarota, director of research at the center and author of the report, said that's a much-needed conversation to make the country's immigration system more "selective."

"This should not be understood as some kind of defect or moral failing on the part of immigrants," Camarota said about the findings. "Rather, what it represents is a system that allows a lot of less-educated immigrants to settle in the country, who then earn modest wages and are eligible for a very generous welfare system."


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Linda Chavez agrees with Camarota that the country's welfare system is too large and too costly. But Chavez, a self-professed conservative who worked in President Reagan's administration, said it's irresponsible to say immigrants are taking advantage of the country's welfare system any more than native-born Americans.

Chavez said today's immigrants, like all other immigrant waves in the country's history, start off poorer and have lower levels of education, making it unfair to compare their welfare use to the long-established native-born population. She said immigrants have larger households, making it more likely that one person in that household will receive some kind of welfare benefit. And she said many benefits counted in the study are going to U.S.-born children of immigrants, skewing the findings even more.

"When you take all of those issues into account, (the report) is less worrisome," she said.
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[link to www.usatoday.com]
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76% of immigrant-led households receiving welfare
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Your nation will be bankrupt within months... not years
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Corporate welfare is much more
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Corporate welfare is much more
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actually no its not.. its much less, but sending our jobs to china and mexico is so much more..
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Corporate welfare is much more
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we have spent 22 trillion dollars on the war on poverty..


so your ignorance does not add up and your mexicans will be coming home soon..

America has had enough..
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well how many Jews are in Israel

we send them like 2.5 million dollars a day

and all.they do to repay us is crash planes into our buildings and make us think some Arabs did it
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well how many Jews are in Israel

we send them like 2.5 million dollars a day

and all.they do to repay us is crash planes into our buildings and make us think some Arabs did it
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sorry moran Muslims did it...
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in fact if it weren't for muslims we wouldn't have to send israel one penny.
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We aren't rioting, because we are too busy working to pay for all the dead beats and illegals.
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We aren't rioting, because we are too busy working to pay for all the dead beats and illegals.
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this is getting really serious.. now they are saying they want to kill white people

time to nip this in the butt.
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[link to www.montereycountyweekly.com]

Posted: Thursday, March 7, 2013 12:00 am
Ed Krayewski

Immigration reform returned to center stage in Washington of late with a proposal from a bipartisan group of senators that was promptly endorsed in principle by President Barack Obama. One of the linchpins of the proposal is providing a “path to citizenship” for those who are currently in the country illegally, a concept that opponents were quick to label amnesty. Obama denies any talk of amnesty, saying instead he wants illegal immigrants to pay penalties, pay taxes, learn English, and then go “to the back of the line.”

But what’s wrong with granting amnesty to hard-working, tax-paying individuals whose only crime is immigration status? Amnesty is not only the best solution to our immigration problem, it is the only solution. Here are five reasons to grant amnesty now.

1. Immigration Is Good for the Economy: For all the rhetoric about immigrants stealing jobs, immigration actually provides a benefit to the national economy because of what economists call the specialization of labor. As Jonathan Hoenig, proprietor of the Capitalist Pig blog, explains: “The fact that foreigners are eager to pick crops, clean houses and bus tables allows more of us to afford cheaper food and better services… it’s not the immigrants, but the taxes, spending and entitlements (most of which immigrants don’t receive) that have drained the economy dry.”

2. Illegal Immigrants Already Pay Taxes: One of Obama’s markers on the path to citizenship is paying taxes, but most illegal immigrants already do. As writer Shikha Dalmia reported, in 2006 an estimated 8 million illegal immigrants paid taxes, including both income taxes and Medicare and Social Security taxes. And of course everyone who buys things in the U.S. pays sales taxes. Undoubtedly, even more illegal immigrants would pay taxes if they didn’t have to worry about deportation as a consequence.

3. Most Illegal Immigrants Are Otherwise Law-Abiding: While illegal immigration is a crime, the act of crossing the border without authorization is a misdemeanor. Immigrants, in fact, may help drive crime down. The vast majority want to stay in the country to work and so steer clear of breaking laws. Yes, 14 percent of federal inmates are illegal immigrants, but they are largely there for immigration violations. Less than 5 percent of state inmates are illegal immigrants. Not exactly the makings of a crime wave.

4. Immigration Is a Natural Right: Judge Andrew Napolitano reasoned that immigration is a natural right, inherent to our humanity. The idea that immigration needs to be “authorized” by the government flies in the face of that freedom. Immigrants who come to America seeking the opportunity to work and pursue happiness, or those brought here at too young an age to have any say in the matter, ought to be able to stay to pursue those opportunities. Conversely, employers ought to be able to enter into contracts with any would-be employees they please. Political borders are just lines on maps. 

5. There Are Too Many Illegal Immigrants To Do Anything Else: According to the latest estimates, there are about 11 million illegal immigrants in America. That’s a lot of people. It would be difficult to deport them all – if not totally impossible. Indeed, even attempting it would require a massive expansion of bureaucracy, particularly new government workers to round up illegal immigrants and deport them. The inhumanity of this approach goes without saying: Individuals would be ripped away from their families. And there would also be dire consequences from removing millions of workers from the labor pool.

It’s time to face the facts: The millions of illegal immigrants currently residing in the United States are overwhelmingly law-abiding, tax-paying, and hard-working. Grant them amnesty and let them continue to make America a better place. 

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Leviticus

33When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. 34 The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.
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well how many Jews are in Israel

we send them like 2.5 million dollars a day

and all.they do to repay us is crash planes into our buildings and make us think some Arabs did it
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sorry moran Muslims did it...
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did what ?

everyone agrees no plane ever hit the Pentagon
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Leviticus

33When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. 34 The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.
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I bet those foreigner's had to make their own living in the land. I just can't see Jew's buying their food, building their houses, giving them free health care and wine. Jews were never known to be retarded in their society structure.
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well how many Jews are in Israel

we send them like 2.5 million dollars a day

and all.they do to repay us is crash planes into our buildings and make us think some Arabs did it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1627189


sorry moran Muslims did it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19915679


did what ?

everyone agrees no plane ever hit the Pentagon
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No not everyone agrees asshat.
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Anyone one this thread ever spent ant time in Mexico? I'll bet not. They're not sending the best and brightest. Their gov is more corrupt than Russia or the U.S. And we're getting fucked over it. Sheep.
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Leviticus

33When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. 34 The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.
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I'm assuming that the foreigner respects you in kind and loves you in return, THAT is not what's happening here.

How are you going to share your wealth with the needy, when they steal it from you first?

It is a BAD thing that your first action is to commit a crime in your new home country by coming in illegally. I personally know 3 family's that went through the EXISTING LEGAL PROCESS to become citizens....if they can do it so can others.

If this keeps going there won't be anything left to give.
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When poverty declines, the need for government declines, which is why expecting government to solve poverty is like expecting a tobacco company to mount an aggressive anti-smoking campaign.
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76% of immigrant-led households receiving welfare
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Thank God Trump wants more immigration so corporations can socialize the costs of cheap labor for private business gains.

Trump loves DACA amnesty that Obama signed an executive order on that trump could rescind with the stroke of a pen.
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Love your neighbor as yourself.

So illegals steal identities then illegally vote for benefits while taking jobs that lower wages for the people who pay the bills.

They got hell to pay when judgement comes.
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That Figure is far Higher than US CITIZENS.

Not only are they here Illegally, you are picking up their living expenses...


Seriously, Why are you not Rioting in the streets?



More than half of the nation's immigrants receive some kind of government welfare, a figure that's far higher than the native-born population's, according to a report to be released Wednesday.

About 51% of immigrant-led households receive at least one kind of welfare benefit, including Medicaid, food stamps, school lunches and housing assistance, compared to 30% for native-led households, according to the report from the Center for Immigration Studies, a group that advocates for lower levels of immigration.

Those numbers increase for households with children, with 76% of immigrant-led households receiving welfare, compared to 52% for the native-born.

The findings are sure to fuel debate on the presidential campaign trail as Republican candidates focus on changing the nation's immigration laws, from calls for mass deportations to ending birthright citizenship.

Steven Camarota, director of research at the center and author of the report, said that's a much-needed conversation to make the country's immigration system more "selective."

"This should not be understood as some kind of defect or moral failing on the part of immigrants," Camarota said about the findings. "Rather, what it represents is a system that allows a lot of less-educated immigrants to settle in the country, who then earn modest wages and are eligible for a very generous welfare system."


USA TODAY
Voices: Empty words about birthright citizenship

Linda Chavez agrees with Camarota that the country's welfare system is too large and too costly. But Chavez, a self-professed conservative who worked in President Reagan's administration, said it's irresponsible to say immigrants are taking advantage of the country's welfare system any more than native-born Americans.

Chavez said today's immigrants, like all other immigrant waves in the country's history, start off poorer and have lower levels of education, making it unfair to compare their welfare use to the long-established native-born population. She said immigrants have larger households, making it more likely that one person in that household will receive some kind of welfare benefit. And she said many benefits counted in the study are going to U.S.-born children of immigrants, skewing the findings even more.

"When you take all of those issues into account, (the report) is less worrisome," she said.
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Yeah but..but..they do the work Americans don’t want to do..
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That Figure is far Higher than US CITIZENS.

Not only are they here Illegally, you are picking up their living expenses...


Seriously, Why are you not Rioting in the streets?



More than half of the nation's immigrants receive some kind of government welfare, a figure that's far higher than the native-born population's, according to a report to be released Wednesday.

About 51% of immigrant-led households receive at least one kind of welfare benefit, including Medicaid, food stamps, school lunches and housing assistance, compared to 30% for native-led households, according to the report from the Center for Immigration Studies, a group that advocates for lower levels of immigration.

Those numbers increase for households with children, with 76% of immigrant-led households receiving welfare, compared to 52% for the native-born.

The findings are sure to fuel debate on the presidential campaign trail as Republican candidates focus on changing the nation's immigration laws, from calls for mass deportations to ending birthright citizenship.

Steven Camarota, director of research at the center and author of the report, said that's a much-needed conversation to make the country's immigration system more "selective."

"This should not be understood as some kind of defect or moral failing on the part of immigrants," Camarota said about the findings. "Rather, what it represents is a system that allows a lot of less-educated immigrants to settle in the country, who then earn modest wages and are eligible for a very generous welfare system."


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Voices: Empty words about birthright citizenship

Linda Chavez agrees with Camarota that the country's welfare system is too large and too costly. But Chavez, a self-professed conservative who worked in President Reagan's administration, said it's irresponsible to say immigrants are taking advantage of the country's welfare system any more than native-born Americans.

Chavez said today's immigrants, like all other immigrant waves in the country's history, start off poorer and have lower levels of education, making it unfair to compare their welfare use to the long-established native-born population. She said immigrants have larger households, making it more likely that one person in that household will receive some kind of welfare benefit. And she said many benefits counted in the study are going to U.S.-born children of immigrants, skewing the findings even more.

"When you take all of those issues into account, (the report) is less worrisome," she said.
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She's worrying about the wrong people. It should be about existing Americans first, and the last thing we want to pay for is other people's babies to replace us.

We should have a one-generation ban on indigent programs for immigrants. People coming thru Ellis Island (all my ancestors for example) didn't have any welfare programs waiting in the new land.

If the immigrant is deterred by no possibility of welfare, we don't want them.
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33When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. 34 The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.
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I'm assuming that the foreigner respects you in kind and loves you in return, THAT is not what's happening here.

How are you going to share your wealth with the needy, when they steal it from you first?

It is a BAD thing that your first action is to commit a crime in your new home country by coming in illegally. I personally know 3 family's that went through the EXISTING LEGAL PROCESS to become citizens....if they can do it so can others.

If this keeps going there won't be anything left to give.
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The comparison is totally inapt.

The Jws weren't receiving any welfare in Egypt. That all started with Joseph saving the Egyptians from a terrible famine, after having himself been imprisoned on a false charge by Pharaoh. He made sure there was "welfare" (food) available during the famine. Then eventually the descendants of Joseph and his brothers multiplied, but they were gradually enslaved. Then G_d busted them outta there.

I'm waiting for the person who sneaks across our southern border who saves us from anything, other than having to mow our own lawns. Still waiting.
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There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire.

But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5)
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How far the US has fallen.

The USA is now an immoral bankrupt warmongering police state flooded with illegal immigrants.

Nixon was almost impeached for wiretapping a hotel, but Trump is wiretapping the entire US and no one cares.

Clinton was nearly impeached for getting a blowjob, but Trump broke the law by paying for sex with a prostitute.

How can Americans sleep at night while the USA collapses?

How can Americans look in the mirror today without feeling disgusted and ashamed?
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This is serious. Bring in the army
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How far the US has fallen.

The USA is now an immoral bankrupt warmongering police state flooded with illegal immigrants.

Nixon was almost impeached for wiretapping a hotel, but Trump is wiretapping the entire US and no one cares.

Clinton was nearly impeached for getting a blowjob, but Trump broke the law by paying for sex with a prostitute.

How can Americans sleep at night while the USA collapses?

How can Americans look in the mirror today without feeling disgusted and ashamed?
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I always thought a lot of HK people seemed like entitled lefties. Dude, worry about your own problems. You weren't selected for a real Great Britain passport when they were being handed out, and your Basic Law expires in 28 years.
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But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5)
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That is why so many Americans are homeless and a growing number face hunger.





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