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Bullion Direct Files for Bankruptcy No Metal

 
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Bad News: Stored Metal Nonexistent

Two documents were filed today (Declaration of Dan Bensimon and Joint Stipulation Regarding Contents of Vault). There is a lot of information in these documents.

Most importantly, they show an inventory of the IDS vault that I calculate as having a value of roughly $633,000, compared to the estimated $20M+ of metal that Bullion Direct stored for customers


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 Quoting: SkeptiSchism 53158832


This is exactly what modern banking was founded on. Printing more gold certificates than what they actually hold. It's called the fractional reserve system. Except now there is no gold or silver backing up the certificates. Just paper or digits in a computer database.

Banking has always involved theft, deception, and fraud. The only difference is it is now legal.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


But it's getting kind of dangerous now, their "reserves" are dropping below 3%.

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07/31/2015 07:13 PM
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They received checks to purchase metal, added the metal to the client's account, but never bought the metal at all.

A couple times a week the SLV will add big loads of silver to their inventory. They add 1,219,000 oz, in one day, and the price is dropping.
This can't really happen. All those suckers will be hung out to dry, sooner or later.
All these metals ETFs were designed to control demand, deflect buyers over to worthless certificates.
Paper Chumps, you got no gold.
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07/31/2015 07:14 PM
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 Quoting: I Am 33570935


Dang those comments are pretty bad, first one:

I had purchased and stored my gold since 2007 and never received it back when I requested in July.

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07/31/2015 07:25 PM
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Wow,How l much longer will the manipulation go on for.
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Bump
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If you own Gold (bars, coins, etc.) and you have someone “storing” it for you - ie: you do not have physical possession of your metal - then you could be in this position at any time. These men got away with what? 20,000,000 or more? That money went somewhere! And you can bet that the courts will not find it, nor will their creditors get the ill gotten gains. With top notch defense lawyers they may be able to avoid a conviction for ten years! And then leave the US for a country with no extradition if they should see a conviction coming. Money - that kind of money - makes a lot of things possible for them that would not be possible for someone without that kind of cash!
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Wow,How l much longer will the manipulation go on for.
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Around 2 weeks.
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If you own Gold (bars, coins, etc.) and you have someone “storing” it for you - ie: you do not have physical possession of your metal - then you could be in this position at any time. These men got away with what? 20,000,000 or more? That money went somewhere! And you can bet that the courts will not find it, nor will their creditors get the ill gotten gains. With top notch defense lawyers they may be able to avoid a conviction for ten years! And then leave the US for a country with no extradition if they should see a conviction coming. Money - that kind of money - makes a lot of things possible for them that would not be possible for someone without that kind of cash!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69733890


Ask Germany. They asked for their 1,500 tons of gold back from the fed in 2012, and so far they have gotten about 40 tons. And that came from France.

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Just goes to show,IF YOU ARE NOT HOLDING IN YOUR HANDS YOU DO NOT OWN IT.
 Quoting: dmore4


So true. They were taking people's money and making accounting entries for the metal without purchasing any of it.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53158832


That's quite an assumption. I prefer that they were taking people's money. Period.
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07/31/2015 09:22 PM
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I can remember telling people not to get involved with this kind of thing. All you get is a piece of paper saying you own it. Now they have nothing.....
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Yes, this system had "SCAM" written all over it from the get-go. Those who couldn't see that shouldn't be in the market. They also shouldn't be allowed to have a driver's license, own pets, or raise children.
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If you have not figured out why gold drops suddenly you may need to hold your pocket book closer.

When the buy signal is dropped in media, the ones in the know flood the market with paper gold.
They only buy physical that shakes from the tree.
They know that a mint has the special delivery of extra stock.
You can buy it like they do at the low, thing is that delivery part of it.

So learn the lesson that gold is true wealth by labor economies.
It takes so much labor and expense to get it in coin form.
This is wealth as we measure it in our labor economy.

How easy is it to produce a nice pretty piece of paper in manual labor and expense?

There you go, learn the lesson easy stuff is worthless in the end.
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07/31/2015 10:31 PM
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnddddddd.................​.... it's gone.
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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From reading the link, it looks like if Bullion Direct just paid the IRS a cut of the scam (ie: paid their taxes)
that this ponzi scheme could have gone on indefinitely with impunity.

Fact is, the IRS started the ball rolling because they hadn't been paid since 2012.

Wonder what would happen if the COMEX didn't give the federal reserve their dues?
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From reading the link, it looks like if Bullion Direct just paid the IRS a cut of the scam (ie: paid their taxes)
that this ponzi scheme could have gone on indefinitely with impunity.

Fact is, the IRS started the ball rolling because they hadn't been paid since 2012.

Wonder what would happen if the COMEX didn't give the federal reserve their dues?
 Quoting: Sikhed


Hehehe Bingo!!!!

Now why would you not try and pay them?

We will see more of this in the days ahead.
They are grabbing what they can before the fall.

Heck we may even see the bit coiner do better than most when the dust settles, who knows?

Physical is king make no mistakes it will be the bar all is measured from.
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Correction: Bullion Direct hadn't paid the IRS since 2011.
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Re: Bullion Direct Files for Bankruptcy No Metal
From reading the link, it looks like if Bullion Direct just paid the IRS a cut of the scam (ie: paid their taxes)
that this ponzi scheme could have gone on indefinitely with impunity.

Fact is, the IRS started the ball rolling because they hadn't been paid since 2012.

Wonder what would happen if the COMEX didn't give the federal reserve their dues?
 Quoting: Sikhed


Hehehe Bingo!!!!

Now why would you not try and pay them?

We will see more of this in the days ahead.
They are grabbing what they can before the fall.

Heck we may even see the bit coiner do better than most when the dust settles, who knows?

Physical is king make no mistakes it will be the bar all is measured from.
 Quoting: Just ya you win soon then 43971542


They say gold flows from weak hands to strong hands.

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07/31/2015 11:34 PM
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A man told me i have $100,000 worth of gold in a new york vault in case war breaks out! I am safe !

I told him, OK war breaks out ? , how in the fuck are you going there to cash it ? abombgaah
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Re: Bullion Direct Files for Bankruptcy No Metal
From reading the link, it looks like if Bullion Direct just paid the IRS a cut of the scam (ie: paid their taxes)
that this ponzi scheme could have gone on indefinitely with impunity.

Fact is, the IRS started the ball rolling because they hadn't been paid since 2012.

Wonder what would happen if the COMEX didn't give the federal reserve their dues?
 Quoting: Sikhed


Hehehe Bingo!!!!

Now why would you not try and pay them?

We will see more of this in the days ahead.
They are grabbing what they can before the fall.

Heck we may even see the bit coiner do better than most when the dust settles, who knows?

Physical is king make no mistakes it will be the bar all is measured from.
 Quoting: Just ya you win soon then 43971542


if it plays out? bitcoin will be worth shit... no electricity = no computers. fucked up ionosphere = no network ANYTHING. EMP = modern communications at the least.

i'd rather a sack of manure to trade then a bitcoin.
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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Re: Bullion Direct Files for Bankruptcy No Metal
From reading the link, it looks like if Bullion Direct just paid the IRS a cut of the scam (ie: paid their taxes)
that this ponzi scheme could have gone on indefinitely with impunity.

Fact is, the IRS started the ball rolling because they hadn't been paid since 2012.

Wonder what would happen if the COMEX didn't give the federal reserve their dues?
 Quoting: Sikhed


Hehehe Bingo!!!!

Now why would you not try and pay them?

We will see more of this in the days ahead.
They are grabbing what they can before the fall.

Heck we may even see the bit coiner do better than most when the dust settles, who knows?

Physical is king make no mistakes it will be the bar all is measured from.
 Quoting: Just ya you win soon then 43971542


if it plays out? bitcoin will be worth shit... no electricity = no computers. fucked up ionosphere = no network ANYTHING. EMP = modern communications at the least.

i'd rather a sack of manure to trade then a bitcoin.
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Real assets should be the rule from now on. Land, animals, food producing. Makes total sense.
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i'd rather a sack of manure to trade then a bitcoin.
 Quoting: Citizenperth


A sack of manure is a physical thing unlike bitcoin, and could be of use in a post-apocalyptic society.
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Re: Bullion Direct Files for Bankruptcy No Metal
From reading the link, it looks like if Bullion Direct just paid the IRS a cut of the scam (ie: paid their taxes)
that this ponzi scheme could have gone on indefinitely with impunity.

Fact is, the IRS started the ball rolling because they hadn't been paid since 2012.

Wonder what would happen if the COMEX didn't give the federal reserve their dues?
 Quoting: Sikhed


Hehehe Bingo!!!!

Now why would you not try and pay them?

We will see more of this in the days ahead.
They are grabbing what they can before the fall.

Heck we may even see the bit coiner do better than most when the dust settles, who knows?

Physical is king make no mistakes it will be the bar all is measured from.
 Quoting: Just ya you win soon then 43971542


if it plays out? bitcoin will be worth shit... no electricity = no computers. fucked up ionosphere = no network ANYTHING. EMP = modern communications at the least.

i'd rather a sack of manure to trade then a bitcoin.
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Real assets should be the rule from now on. Land, animals, food producing. Makes total sense.
 Quoting: bigD111


Missed my point about the bitcoin.
Was really a reference that the dollar and other fiat currency may be worth less than a pixel on a screen.

How easy is it to make a pixel on a screen?
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Gullible people will be gullible.
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Estimates 2-3 years ago were SILVER Certificates were oversold to the tune of 600 TIMES the mined silver above ground so far on EARTH...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19876247


Not that I don't believe you, but it would be AWESOME if you could show me where that statement came from.. would love to show a few people that statistic, if verifiable.. thanks!
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Estimates 2-3 years ago were SILVER Certificates were oversold to the tune of 600 TIMES the mined silver above ground so far on EARTH...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19876247


Not that I don't believe you, but it would be AWESOME if you could show me where that statement came from.. would love to show a few people that statistic, if verifiable.. thanks!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45668621


Today silver closed at $14.76 x 600 = 8856 /oz
I don't know about that ...
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I made a very large (very large) silver bullion order from jmbullion on the 14th. The shipping label was created but the product still hasn't shipped. I am getting complete damage control from their claims department. She actually said to me she "has no idea what is going on". Today I get an email saying she has finally heard back from the branch that ships the metal and that they will call me tomorrow. So instead of a simple email saying that my order has shipped, I have to have a phone conversation with these people tomorrow. Not expecting good news
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I usually buy a couple hundred ounces at a time from JM and have never had to wait, but you said very large so I'm thinking 1000's of ounces?
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I've purchased from them and All American Gold. Never an issue AAG tells you if it is in stock or not.
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