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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69145238 United States 07/31/2015 02:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YEs, all the dealers are SOLD OUT of silver. If they can't sell, they can't stay in business... Quoting: TheToolMan Silver-Tards, Lets Ride! We always ride. The market manipulation will only get worse though. The real benefit of the investment will hit probably about the time our kids take over things. So longevity wise it is still awesome. But unfortunately all my gold and silver was taken by a real leprechaun. ..so theres that.... if you're talkin Irish Succubus.. right there with ya -_- |
Phillip J. Fry
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Rumpeltrumpskin
User ID: 53325599 United States 07/31/2015 03:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wanna invest some cash without worrying about having to sell it but in the back of my mind I wonder if these ETFs or kitco pools actually have the metal they say they do and what would happen if they went belly-up... how much of the market is paper and what would happen if people demanded physical... DOOM! Would be fun. Last Edited by Trumpelstiltskin on 07/31/2015 03:21 AM Don't Tread On Me |
InTheHood
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69467787 Canada 07/31/2015 04:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wanna invest some cash without worrying about having to sell it but in the back of my mind I wonder if these ETFs or kitco pools actually have the metal they say they do and what would happen if they went belly-up... how much of the market is paper and what would happen if people demanded physical... DOOM! Would be fun. Quoting: Rumpeltrumpskin Check out CEF for a fully audited fund that holds 100% of its silver & gold.No I don't own any...yet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67317990 United States 07/31/2015 04:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bad News: Stored Metal Nonexistent Quoting: SkeptiSchism 53158832 Two documents were filed today (Declaration of Dan Bensimon and Joint Stipulation Regarding Contents of Vault). There is a lot of information in these documents. Most importantly, they show an inventory of the IDS vault that I calculate as having a value of roughly $633,000, compared to the estimated $20M+ of metal that Bullion Direct stored for customers [link to about.ag] . Yup, anyone who fell victim to that scam was bamboozled hardcore. I would never do paper for gold, or off-site gold storage... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69492200 United States 07/31/2015 04:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34055833 United States 07/31/2015 05:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So true. They were taking people's money and making accounting entries for the metal without purchasing any of it. Regulators are asleep at the wheel. They will probably jump on this one though and spin it like all dealers are fraudsters. It looks like some of them are, but not all of them. The ones that need to be investigated are the big bullion banks like COMEX . "Regulators are asleep at the wheel". Oh paleeze, yeah they're totally unaware and just plain old ignorant, I'm sure |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 651868 United States 07/31/2015 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 651868 United States 07/31/2015 06:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So true. They were taking people's money and making accounting entries for the metal without purchasing any of it. Regulators are asleep at the wheel. They will probably jump on this one though and spin it like all dealers are fraudsters. It looks like some of them are, but not all of them. The ones that need to be investigated are the big bullion banks like COMEX . "Regulators are asleep at the wheel". Oh paleeze, yeah they're totally unaware and just plain old ignorant, I'm sure Mmmmm, they could be family, too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 651868 United States 07/31/2015 06:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wanna invest some cash without worrying about having to sell it but in the back of my mind I wonder if these ETFs or kitco pools actually have the metal they say they do and what would happen if they went belly-up... how much of the market is paper and what would happen if people demanded physical... DOOM! Would be fun. Quoting: Rumpeltrumpskin Check out CEF for a fully audited fund that holds 100% of its silver & gold.No I don't own any...yet. Sweet, you buy it any pay to store it until something happens and they cant ship it. Anyone selling you something they keep after getting paid intends to rob you of even more when they can, If SHTF who will send you shit you paid for? Nobody |
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twortle
User ID: 9281251 United States 07/31/2015 06:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Serious conversation I had with a silver seller: Seller: "We will only charge you 1% annual fee to safely store your silver with us. That's far lower than any of our competitors...and you have the peace of mind knowing it's safe." Me: "But I want to take delivery of the actual silver" Seller: "Great news. You qualify for for the 1% fee waiver. We will store for you for free. How's that?" Me: {Click} Your papers appear to be in order "It's all fun and games...until we have to cover it up" |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 53158832 United States 07/31/2015 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: Running out of physical coin/bullion? Quoting: Nurse Flesh Hammer Can I get a little credit please. Three responses from you cunts. Douchebots. All of you. :dubya: Hey yah good call. . |
Copperhead
User ID: 69904405 United States 07/31/2015 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I made a very large (very large) silver bullion order from jmbullion on the 14th. The shipping label was created but the product still hasn't shipped. I am getting complete damage control from their claims department. She actually said to me she "has no idea what is going on". Today I get an email saying she has finally heard back from the branch that ships the metal and that they will call me tomorrow. So instead of a simple email saying that my order has shipped, I have to have a phone conversation with these people tomorrow. Not expecting good news Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65419273 I usually buy a couple hundred ounces at a time from JM and have never had to wait, but you said very large so I'm thinking 1000's of ounces? |
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Carnac The Magnificent
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Carnac The Magnificent
User ID: 34859566 United States 07/31/2015 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Serious conversation I had with a silver seller: Quoting: twortle Seller: "We will only charge you 1% annual fee to safely store your silver with us. That's far lower than any of our competitors...and you have the peace of mind knowing it's safe." Me: "But I want to take delivery of the actual silver" Seller: "Great news. You qualify for for the 1% fee waiver. We will store for you for free. How's that?" Me: {Click} That is some scary shit. Have a nice day = GFY. GFY = Go Fuck Yourself. If this offends you then have a nice day. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69921823 United States 07/31/2015 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bad News: Stored Metal Nonexistent Quoting: SkeptiSchism 53158832 Two documents were filed today (Declaration of Dan Bensimon and Joint Stipulation Regarding Contents of Vault). There is a lot of information in these documents. Most importantly, they show an inventory of the IDS vault that I calculate as having a value of roughly $633,000, compared to the estimated $20M+ of metal that Bullion Direct stored for customers [link to about.ag] . You sheeps should understand that, if anything is connected to the world of finance IT IS ALWAYS A SCAM. Psychopaths designed, own and run the entire system. New psychopaths are attracted to it because they can smell the scam. All of it is ALWAYS a complete scam. |
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dmore4
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 38297111 United States 07/31/2015 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dang, I used them for many years. I stopped in 2013. Every 2 weeks I'd buy a few ounces of silver and every 6 months I'd take delivery. They were safe from their own business model as long as the price of silver increased. Looks like thousand of customers stand to lose millions. I've been down so long, being down don't bother me... |
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Instant Karma
User ID: 69469070 United States 07/31/2015 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bad News: Stored Metal Nonexistent Quoting: SkeptiSchism 53158832 Two documents were filed today (Declaration of Dan Bensimon and Joint Stipulation Regarding Contents of Vault). There is a lot of information in these documents. Most importantly, they show an inventory of the IDS vault that I calculate as having a value of roughly $633,000, compared to the estimated $20M+ of metal that Bullion Direct stored for customers [link to about.ag] . This is exactly what modern banking was founded on. Printing more gold certificates than what they actually hold. It's called the fractional reserve system. Except now there is no gold or silver backing up the certificates. Just paper or digits in a computer database. Banking has always involved theft, deception, and fraud. The only difference is it is now legal. Last Edited by Gimme Some Truth on 07/31/2015 07:01 PM Dollar Deception: How Banks Secretly Create Money: [link to www.webofdebt.com] ALTERED GENES, TWISTED TRUTH: How the Venture to Genetically Engineer Our Food Has Subverted Science, Corrupted Government, and Systematically Deceived the Public: [link to www.amazon.com] 2028 End? [link to 2028end.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45302362 United States 07/31/2015 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was just telling my kid the other day when he was looking for somewhere to invest that he could invest in my gold stock - if he gave me ten minutes to print him a certificate on my home computer he could invest as much as he wanted- I will use fancy paper and everything Come on people how dumb are you |