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Influential Catholic Priest Claims Pope Francis is Obsessed with the Devil

 
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> Let's see, I can believe you. a mortal man, or Christ, an imperishable Spirit, hmmmmm.....let me think on that one, ok, done

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All of our spirits are imperishable because spirit is not material or form, it is that glow of awarenss, that space in and around your head (not to include thinking/emotions/dreaming).

Spirituality is not fantasy, it's real things.
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There is nothing the Devil likes better than a FOOL to believe it is an "Old-Wives-Tale", a Fable, an imaginary Comic Book character...

Demons, Demonism, Satan, Satanists exist...

And they have for a very long time.
 Quoting: Anus the Heinous


They exist as part of pagan myth

Nothing in the Bible unless you twist it

The Bible is about one God who does it all

He doesn't need an "evil god" to help
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Your post makes no sense.
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The big delusion among religious people is that they identify with body/senses and the material world. And they think the spirit is imaginary, and that the body produces their sense of awareness.

These are 100% false assumptions. The spirit is experienced everytime you are self-aware with eyes-open, and everytime you close your eyes and experience that space in and around the head - the same glow of awareness that has been put into religious paintings, the gold halo. And it is NOT made or produced by the body/nervous system. It just attaches to the EMF (or whatever) of the nervous system where it can then experience the nervous system, and inject electrical impulses into the nervous system. Flesh attracts spirits like a flower attracts bees - only for purposes of (animation and) reproduction. It can do nothing without the animation the spirit provides. The goal of religions, and proper reading of religious materials, is to understand and see that the ultimate goal is to shift from physical/material/body/sense attachments into attachment with the spirit itself, so that it no longer attaches to bodies/senses/suffering after death, so that it can continue on in realms beyond physical existence, beyond pain, illness, suffering, and death; which is inherent in all physical life. There is only "the way things work" - there is no orchestrator - and if you think there is, there is no hope for you.

Sin is really all sensual desire, even though we only say it is a "big sin" when our sensual desires inflict pain and distress on others. So, in this sense, evil is anything related to sensual desire, because it prevents us from the goal of freeing our spirits of all sensual desire, so that they no longer attach to bodies/senses, and things that decay and worlds that decay, all of which is the cause of endless suffering.
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The big delusion among religious people is that they identify with body/senses and the material world. And they think the spirit is imaginary, and that the body produces their sense of awareness.

These are 100% false assumptions. The spirit is experienced everytime you are self-aware with eyes-open, and everytime you close your eyes and experience that space in and around the head - the same glow of awareness that has been put into religious paintings, the gold halo. And it is NOT made or produced by the body/nervous system. It just attaches to the EMF (or whatever) of the nervous system where it can then experience the nervous system, and inject electrical impulses into the nervous system. Flesh attracts spirits like a flower attracts bees - only for purposes of (animation and) reproduction. It can do nothing without the animation the spirit provides. The goal of religions, and proper reading of religious materials, is to understand and see that the ultimate goal is to shift from physical/material/body/sense attachments into attachment with the spirit itself, so that it no longer attaches to bodies/senses/suffering after death, so that it can continue on in realms beyond physical existence, beyond pain, illness, suffering, and death; which is inherent in all physical life. There is only "the way things work" - there is no orchestrator - and if you think there is, there is no hope for you.

Sin is really all sensual desire, even though we only say it is a "big sin" when our sensual desires inflict pain and distress on others. So, in this sense, evil is anything related to sensual desire, because it prevents us from the goal of freeing our spirits of all sensual desire, so that they no longer attach to bodies/senses, and things that decay and worlds that decay, all of which is the cause of endless suffering.
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that is just ass backwards
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Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:

Calm seas do not a sailor make,
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Nor easy believing, a Christian

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Nope, it's 100% on target :)
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The current so called Pope is actually the Anti-Pope that helps to herald in the Anti-Christ. The real Pope, Benedict is in hiding.

Francis is perfectly Possessed, as Father Malachi Martin would say. {God Rest Malachi's sweet soul.}

Malachi wrote many books on the subject and warned us all when he was alive. The world lost a true Prophet when he was TAKEN from us.
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You speak nonsense but you dont care.Your false teachers should be proud of you.EVERYONE YOU SAID IS RUBBISH and NONE OF IT IS IN THE BIBLE!
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Nope, it's 100% on target :)

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I should add that NO OBJECT/THING/MATERIAL/SUBSTANCE has INTENTION.

Impossible! Nobody can mix chemicals together, and create intentions.
Intentions are the muscle of spirit/awareness, and nothing else.
Nothing at all to do with biology/chemistry/physiology.

Without a spirit, flesh will just rot and decay, and a fertilized egg will not grow, and will be ejected.

Spirit detaches and attaches to flesh/senses every time we go to sleep and wake up, it's nothing out of the ordinary. And it happens at death too.
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There is nothing the Devil likes better than a FOOL to believe it is an "Old-Wives-Tale", a Fable, an imaginary Comic Book character...

Demons, Demonism, Satan, Satanists exist...

And they have for a very long time.
 Quoting: Anus the Heinous


They exist as part of pagan myth

Nothing in the Bible unless you twist it

The Bible is about one God who does it all

He doesn't need an "evil god" to help
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69759977


Lucifer is most certainly mentioned in the Bible...

Isaiah 14

9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
daughter in NYC
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The big delusion among religious people is that they identify with body/senses and the material world. And they think the spirit is imaginary, and that the body produces their sense of awareness.

These are 100% false assumptions. The spirit is experienced everytime you are self-aware with eyes-open, and everytime you close your eyes and experience that space in and around the head - the same glow of awareness that has been put into religious paintings, the gold halo. And it is NOT made or produced by the body/nervous system. It just attaches to the EMF (or whatever) of the nervous system where it can then experience the nervous system, and inject electrical impulses into the nervous system. Flesh attracts spirits like a flower attracts bees - only for purposes of (animation and) reproduction. It can do nothing without the animation the spirit provides. The goal of religions, and proper reading of religious materials, is to understand and see that the ultimate goal is to shift from physical/material/body/sense attachments into attachment with the spirit itself, so that it no longer attaches to bodies/senses/suffering after death, so that it can continue on in realms beyond physical existence, beyond pain, illness, suffering, and death; which is inherent in all physical life. There is only "the way things work" - there is no orchestrator - and if you think there is, there is no hope for you.

Sin is really all sensual desire, even though we only say it is a "big sin" when our sensual desires inflict pain and distress on others. So, in this sense, evil is anything related to sensual desire, because it prevents us from the goal of freeing our spirits of all sensual desire, so that they no longer attach to bodies/senses, and things that decay and worlds that decay, all of which is the cause of endless suffering.
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When all major religious figures in history say nearly everyone is going to hell, and all Catholics think they are going to heaven, somebody must be wrong.
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When all major religious figures in history say nearly everyone is going to hell, and all Catholics think they are going to heaven, somebody must be wrong.
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You are correct. Something is wrong. What's wrong is that mankind is turning away from God and denying him. The numbers of the faithful are dwindling, giving rise to those who speak false doctrines. These false prophets go unchallenged, and cause more to fall away. Then there are those like yourself, who believe in nothing but the self.
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The beauty of the Catholic faith is such that we have two thousand years of Popes and Church Fathers, Doctors to rely on. If Francis says something that is not true while giving his opinion on something we do not have to believe him. We can rely on the good catechisms such as the Baltimore edition. The Pope can never teach any errors in Dogma....







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> You are correct. Something is wrong. What's wrong is that mankind is turning away from God and denying him. The numbers of the faithful are dwindling, giving rise to those who speak false doctrines. These false prophets go unchallenged, and cause more to fall away. Then there are those like yourself, who believe in nothing but the self.

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People don't use their intelligence and don't practise prayer and meditation enough to lead to wisdom. Faith is only required to "listen and practise", but once practise leads to experience and knowledge, faith is no longer required. To base everything forever upon belief and faith in some indescribable being and "hope" is merely ignorance, it's childish. To believe that someone else is going to take the reins of your spirit and put it in places against your own will and intents is simply foolishness. "God" no more dictates the dreams your spirit experiences than he dictates the attachments of your spirit after death. There are only natural processes - and spirituality is understanding those processes to find the way out of our sufferings, and this is the teaching of all great religious figures at the core. It's a science, in the sense that there are practises that lead to experiences which can be independently verified, and which are accompanied by knowedge and wisdom which cannot be acquired any other way. Prayer is a beginning for focusing and concentrating the mind, a beginning to self-awareness, the beginning of turning away from the world/senses, but it is not enough. Next, one must stay in that state for 1-2 hours/day. Then ... when you have done this for a decade or so, and you have spent the required time to analyze what you are, and the components of the human experience, you will understand for yourself the message from all the great religious figures in history, the true foundations of religions - all of which have been corrupted to profit from the blind following and obedience of the masses.

What's needed is reality, observed reality as it actually is, eg truth, not belief/faith/God/etc. And when one does this, they will see that it's just like the Bible says: Satan owns this world, and satan is not a man/angel, but simply the temptations and lust for material existence. That is what binds our spirits to eternal hells and suffering. Yet, that is what most everyone lives for - and that's why most everyone is destined for hell.
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Satan is a mighty adversary.

Since Devil means, adversary.

Any two year researcher should know.

Frances fears for he does not know, Satan.

Satan will crush this dimension & all those in it.

No other gods will interfere,they fear wrath.

The gods fear,truth.

Satan Lucifer has nothing to lose.

Satan has always been and always will be, True Creator.
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Satan is a mighty adversary.

Since Devil means, adversary.

Any two year researcher should know.

Frances fears for he does not know, Satan.

Satan will crush this dimension & all those in it.

No other gods will interfere,they fear wrath.

The gods fear,truth.

Satan Lucifer has nothing to lose.

Satan has always been and always will be, True Creator.
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Satan the Devil means slanderer and deceiver. He is the father of the lie. He was a perfect angel, a created being, who turned evil. He has not always been nor will always be. And he is no Creator. He will be put to death, along with his demons and all who follow them, after Christ's thousand year reign. And that will be that.
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According to Rev. Thomas Rosica, Pope Francis may be obsessed with the devil.

In his CNN article, Rosica states:

"For Francis, the devil is not a myth, but a real person. Many modern people may greet the Pope's insistence on the devil with a dismissive, cultural affectation, indifference, or at the most indulgent curiosity."

"Yet Francis refers to the devil continually. He does not believe him to be a myth, but a real person, the most insidious enemy of the church. Several of my theologian colleagues have said that he has gone a bit overboard with the devil and hell! We may be tempted to ask, why in the devil is Pope Francis so involved with the prince of demons?"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as Christians, aren't Catholics supposed to believe that Satan is a real and active force in the world?

[link to www.cnn.com]

"Rev. Thomas Rosica is a priest of the Congregation of St. Basil (Basilian Fathers). He holds advanced degrees in Theology and Sacred Scripture from Regis College in the Toronto School of Theology [1985], the Pontifical Biblical Institute in Rome [1991] and the École Biblique et Archéologique Française de Jérusalem [1994]."

Rev. Rosica is the founding Chief Executive Officer of Salt and Light Television, Canada's first national Catholic television network.

[link to saltandlighttv.org]

Is this what they are teaching in Seminary these days? That Satan is nothing more than a myth? This is just another reason I'm glad I left the Catholic Church.

Apostasy.



And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues.

Revelation 18:4


What are your thoughts?
 Quoting: Dixie Darlin'


To me, this proves that Francis is the real deal. The Devil is real and so are his demons. This just reinforces my love of Francis who is really one with Jesus. He has the Holy Spirit in him!
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According to Rev. Thomas Rosica, Pope Francis may be obsessed with the devil.

In his CNN article, Rosica states:

"For Francis, the devil is not a myth, but a real person. Many modern people may greet the Pope's insistence on the devil with a dismissive, cultural affectation, indifference, or at the most indulgent curiosity."

"Yet Francis refers to the devil continually. He does not believe him to be a myth, but a real person, the most insidious enemy of the church. Several of my theologian colleagues have said that he has gone a bit overboard with the devil and hell! We may be tempted to ask, why in the devil is Pope Francis so involved with the prince of demons?"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as Christians, aren't Catholics supposed to believe that Satan is a real and active force in the world?

[link to www.cnn.com]

"Rev. Thomas Rosica is a priest of the Congregation of St. Basil (Basilian Fathers). He holds advanced degrees in Theology and Sacred Scripture from Regis College in the Toronto School of Theology [1985], the Pontifical Biblical Institute in Rome [1991] and the École Biblique et Archéologique Française de Jérusalem [1994]."

Rev. Rosica is the founding Chief Executive Officer of Salt and Light Television, Canada's first national Catholic television network.

[link to saltandlighttv.org]

Is this what they are teaching in Seminary these days? That Satan is nothing more than a myth? This is just another reason I'm glad I left the Catholic Church.

Apostasy.



And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues.

Revelation 18:4


What are your thoughts?
 Quoting: Dixie Darlin'


My thoughts? Catholics are not christian at all, think heretic.
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Expect the part when they contradicted scripture and decided God is a trinity, right? Rofl.
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There is nothing the Devil likes better than a FOOL to believe it is an "Old-Wives-Tale", a Fable, an imaginary Comic Book character...

Demons, Demonism, Satan, Satanists exist...

And they have for a very long time.
 Quoting: Anus the Heinous


They exist as part of pagan myth

Nothing in the Bible unless you twist it

The Bible is about one God who does it all

He doesn't need an "evil god" to help
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69759977


Lucifer is most certainly mentioned in the Bible...

Isaiah 14

9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


Nope. That 's about king Nebuchadnezzar. Lucifer is an erroneous translation and not even a proper noun. And obviously you can't find it in the original Hebrew manuscript since it's not even a Hebrew word, but a Latin phrase

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Makes me glad to be an X-Catholic.
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Me too.
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Me three
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Oh, man alive, whatever you do, do not get your info about Catholicism from Jack Chick!!!

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Well if you didn't watch the youtube version, read the book SMOKESCREENS .. the history of the RCC along with earlier popes and the vatican, their involvement in the war working with Hitler, murdering Christians .. very informative.
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it seems like the only catholics who study their bible are the priests, and the priests dont have much right to interpret. but in theory yes, catholics "should" believe in a literal Satan.
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EVERY Pope should be obsessed with the devil. He's the main obstacle to our goal, Jesus Christ!
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I think this priest is referring to the exorcism of the entire country of mexico all at once. A lot of priests feel this kind of exorcism is dangerous since not all people know or understand what is going on it can open them up more to attack. Still I can blame the pope for doing something at least. We are getting real close to having hell on earth the way things are shaping up.
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There is nothing the Devil likes better than a FOOL to believe it is an "Old-Wives-Tale", a Fable, an imaginary Comic Book character...

Demons, Demonism, Satan, Satanists exist...

And they have for a very long time.
 Quoting: Anus the Heinous


They exist as part of pagan myth

Nothing in the Bible unless you twist it

The Bible is about one God who does it all

He doesn't need an "evil god" to help
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69759977


Lucifer is most certainly mentioned in the Bible...

Isaiah 14

9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


Nope. That 's about king Nebuchadnezzar. Lucifer is an erroneous translation and not even a proper noun. And obviously you can't find it in the original Hebrew manuscript since it's not even a Hebrew word, but a Latin phrase

[link to www.godward.org]
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You are deceived....
Nebuchadnezzar could NOT have fallen from the sky, as he was MORTAL.

Jesus also confirmed the fall of Lucifer in Luke 10:18

"I SAW SATAN FALL LIKE LIGHTNING FROM HEAVEN"
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They exist as part of pagan myth

Nothing in the Bible unless you twist it

The Bible is about one God who does it all

He doesn't need an "evil god" to help
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69759977


Lucifer is most certainly mentioned in the Bible...

Isaiah 14

9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


Nope. That 's about king Nebuchadnezzar. Lucifer is an erroneous translation and not even a proper noun. And obviously you can't find it in the original Hebrew manuscript since it's not even a Hebrew word, but a Latin phrase

[link to www.godward.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69833245


You are deceived....
Nebuchadnezzar could NOT have fallen from the sky, as he was MORTAL.

Jesus also confirmed the fall of Lucifer in Luke 10:18

"I SAW SATAN FALL LIKE LIGHTNING FROM HEAVEN"
 Quoting: daughter in NYC


It's poetic. The king of Babylon is explicitly named. No, it's not allegorically referring to satan either. Luke 10:18 is not Isaiah 14 or referencing Isaiah 14. If lucifer is a proper name why is it not found in the Hebrew manuscript? Do you see how absurd that is?
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Lucifer is most certainly mentioned in the Bible...

Isaiah 14

9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
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Nope. That 's about king Nebuchadnezzar. Lucifer is an erroneous translation and not even a proper noun. And obviously you can't find it in the original Hebrew manuscript since it's not even a Hebrew word, but a Latin phrase

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You are deceived....
Nebuchadnezzar could NOT have fallen from the sky, as he was MORTAL.

Jesus also confirmed the fall of Lucifer in Luke 10:18

"I SAW SATAN FALL LIKE LIGHTNING FROM HEAVEN"
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It's poetic. The king of Babylon is explicitly named. No, it's not allegorically referring to satan either. Luke 10:18 is not Isaiah 14 or referencing Isaiah 14. If lucifer is a proper name why is it not found in the Hebrew manuscript? Do you see how absurd that is?
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You continue to hypothesize as does your 'father'
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The Pope Is The Anti Christ

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The Bible Proves The Papacy


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No, that is not truth.

and I won't explain you because you wouldn't believe me anyway.
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you bosnians are infested with demons and the spirits of confusion and lies primarily because you obsess with taroting through your turkish coffee cups and other similar gate openers..
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yes there is some truth in that, yes.
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So stick with what AC 1550123 mentioned to you rather than falling for demonical bullshit that they have families/kids etc as they are obviously playing on your feelings and your mind... They are expert manipulators having been in that business for centuries.
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According to Islamic tradition Djinns are created both female and male from the smokeless fire. They live very long and can have families. Most things bosnian ac says are true.
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Re: Influential Catholic Priest Claims Pope Francis is Obsessed with the Devil
The Bible Proves The Papacy



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Indeed it does.

It proves the Catholic Church is the most wicked organization to ever exist and is Christs enemy.

The bible indeed "proves" the papacy
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