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Egypt's President El-Sisi slammed Al-Azhar Grand Imam and clerics

 
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This was released yesterday, his remarks were during a ceremony for the last days of Ramadan - cause for lots of discussion everywhere and wanted to share with my friends at GLP. There's nothing much to add, except that - in GLP lingo - he nailed it! An most comments I read or heard about it said he's right as well!

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President Abdel-Fattah El-Sisi has accused Al-Azhar's Grand Imam Ahmed El-Tayeb and other clerics of failing to develop Egypt's religious discourse.

"You are the one responsible for religious discourse, and God will ask me whether I am satisfied [with your performance] or not," El-Sisi said of El-Tayeb on Tuesday.

"The role of clerics is not to give speeches in mosques, but to spread peace among humanity," El-Sisi added.

"At last year's ceremony, when I tackled the idea of a religious revolution, I didn't mean imposing [change through] violent actions, rather I meant to revolutionise our thoughts in order to make them to fit the time and also to improve the image of Islam."

"The main problem is that we don't understand our religion ," he said. "And we cannot accept those people who misuse Islam to promote violence and extremism."

[link to english.ahram.org.eg]

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This is not the first time he's said harsh words, he's criticized Al-Azhar and clerics several times, pissed off the MB supporters and otherwise extremist minority in the country. He lets them feel that they're being fought not only with weapons and by the Army but by taking away their twisted ideologies.

Example from his 2015 New Years Speech at Al-Azhar

[link to www.raymondibrahim.com]

The relevant excerpt from Sisi’s speech follows (translation by Michele Antaki):

I am referring here to the religious clerics. We have to think hard about what we are facing—and I have, in fact, addressed this topic a couple of times before. It’s inconceivable that the thinking that we hold most sacred should cause the entire umma [Islamic world] to be a source of anxiety, danger, killing and destruction for the rest of the world. Impossible!

That thinking—I am not saying “religion” but “thinking”—that corpus of texts and ideas that we have sacralized over the centuries, to the point that departing from them has become almost impossible, is antagonizing the entire world. It’s antagonizing the entire world!

Is it possible that 1.6 billion people [Muslims] should want to kill the rest of the world’s inhabitants—that is 7 billion—so that they themselves may live? Impossible!

I am saying these words here at Al Azhar, before this assembly of scholars and ulema—Allah Almighty be witness to your truth on Judgment Day concerning that which I’m talking about now.

All this that I am telling you, you cannot feel it if you remain trapped within this mindset. You need to step outside of yourselves to be able to observe it and reflect on it from a more enlightened perspective.

I say and repeat again that we are in need of a religious revolution. You, imams, are responsible before Allah. The entire world, I say it again, the entire world is waiting for your next move… because this umma is being torn, it is being destroyed, it is being lost—and it is being lost by our own hands.
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applause I like that man.
This is the way the world ends.
This is the way the world ends.
This is the way the world ends.
Not with a bang but with a whimper.
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applause I like that man.
 Quoting: Shiva ascendant


So do the majority of Egyptians, don't let MSM tell you anything different, because he sure is pissing off the right people right now. chuckle
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hugs thanks for the bump

What do you think about this?
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hugs thanks for the bump

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It's very nice to know that there's a large Muslim country in the region under sensible leadership, long may he reign. thumbs
This is the way the world ends.
This is the way the world ends.
This is the way the world ends.
Not with a bang but with a whimper.
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hugs thanks for the bump

What do you think about this?
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It's very nice to know that there's a large Muslim country in the region under sensible leadership, long may he reign. thumbs
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Absolutely, thank you hf
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What MSM tells you? Every MSM outlet besides al jazeera says Sisi is ridiculously popular. What retard world do you live in where they do not?
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What MSM tells you? Every MSM outlet besides al jazeera says Sisi is ridiculously popular. What retard world do you live in where they do not?
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Well than that's good to hear. Don't listen to MB/Qatari Jazeera, ever. And I was speaking more in the future terms, you know how they can turn in a second if he doesn't play by their game ;)

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I just revisited the article to see about the comments and quite a few...might be interesting to check out for some of you.
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And here we go, he came to preach some bullshit and wanted to leave back to the Islamist nest in London...not so fast


[link to english.ahram.org.eg]
Embattled Koran reader Mohamed Gebreel banned from leaving Egypt
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Rabaa El-Adawiya square named after Egypt's slain top prosecutor

The site of a large Islamist sit-in in 2013 following the ouster of ex-President Mohamed Morsi, the square will be renamed after Hisham Barakat who was assassinated last month by a car bomb
[link to english.ahram.org.eg]

EPIC move of my Government - this is great lmao
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applause I like that man.
 Quoting: Shiva ascendant


So do the majority of Egyptians, don't let MSM tell you anything different, because he sure is pissing off the right people right now. chuckle
 Quoting: Bes Maat


Has he ever thought of running for President of the United States? One of the reasons that we like Trump is because Trump is not afraid to take on the establishment. It sounds like El-Sisi isn't afraid either...

I hope his security is top notch...

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applause I like that man.
 Quoting: Shiva ascendant


So do the majority of Egyptians, don't let MSM tell you anything different, because he sure is pissing off the right people right now. chuckle
 Quoting: Bes Maat


Has he ever thought of running for President of the United States? One of the reasons that we like Trump is because Trump is not afraid to take on the establishment. It sounds like El-Sisi isn't afraid either...

I hope his security is top notch...

thumbs
 Quoting: davvi


Me too rockon
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applause I like that man.
 Quoting: Shiva ascendant


So do the majority of Egyptians, don't let MSM tell you anything different, because he sure is pissing off the right people right now. chuckle
 Quoting: Bes Maat


Has he ever thought of running for President of the United States? One of the reasons that we like Trump is because Trump is not afraid to take on the establishment. It sounds like El-Sisi isn't afraid either...

I hope his security is top notch...

thumbs
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Me too rockon
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For centuries Egypts head of state did not see eye to eye with the religeous clerics so theres nothing new. It has come to the point that I dont know who is right.
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For centuries Egypts head of state did not see eye to eye with the religeous clerics so theres nothing new. It has come to the point that I dont know who is right.
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Obviously not those that preach extremism, outdated ideologies and go on committing Terrorist acts in the name of Islam/Allah. About time someone fights that, and we need a big time reform in that department. We've been breeding little terrorists for centuries, it's enough. Time for some oversight
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So do the majority of Egyptians, don't let MSM tell you anything different, because he sure is pissing off the right people right now. chuckle
 Quoting: Bes Maat


Has he ever thought of running for President of the United States? One of the reasons that we like Trump is because Trump is not afraid to take on the establishment. It sounds like El-Sisi isn't afraid either...

I hope his security is top notch...

thumbs
 Quoting: davvi


Me too rockon
 Quoting: Bes Maat


5star35
 Quoting: davvi


Thanks davvi hf
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The late president Jamel Abd Nasier prisoned and murdered many of Egypts renowned religous clerics . What kind of terrorism exist at that time? Egypts presidents are known to be corrupt and abuse of power .The clerics are the only voice of the people who dare to speak up unlike clerics in most other muslim countries .
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The late president Jamel Abd Nasier prisoned and murdered many of Egypts renowned religous clerics . What kind of terrorism exist at that time? Egypts presidents are known to be corrupt and abuse of power .The clerics are the only voice of the people who dare to speak up unlike clerics in most other muslim countries .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42789845


Oh...welcome little MB supporter to my thread.

I guess you are talking about this late President of ours? Yes, there was no "Terrorism" then in the form we know today, although False Flags did happen and he recognized the cancer that they were spreading. Not to mention various other "minor" things going on at that time. Surely they were all so innocent, weren't they?



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And another one for you my friend! And he ended up being killed by exactly those he warned about - they're all the same, coming from the perverted ideologies!


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