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Biblical Scholars, A Question About the AntiChrist

 
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I think that we are living in the end times. That is my conviction.

Now, I need some assistance in interpreting the definition of the Anti-Christ of the bible.

I believe Al Baghdadi, the self proclaimed Caliph of the Islamic State to be the Anti-Christ of the Bible.

Many leaders across the world fit the criteria to a degree, but I believe him, and the fact that he has been said to be dead at least twice in the past two years, to be "the" Anti-Christ.

Here is an article, and what is intriguing, is that it states,

"The Islamic State group released a slew of photos and videos documenting its offensive that overran a third of Iraq last June, and the many atrocities it carried out".

[link to news.yahoo.com]

Any takers?
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All right, lets get this going.


2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 “Let no one deceive you by any means; for that day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshipped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.”

-Yes, Baghdadi does exert his authority as derived from God, and he leads his Army to kill who they have deemed sinful. He has exerted authority to be judge, jury, and executioner, and does so under the justification of God.

Revelation 13:3 “And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast.”

- [link to www.ibtimes.co.uk]

- He has been reported by reputable news sites more than once as being dead from an airstrike.

1 John 2:18 “Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.”

1 John 2:22 “Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.”

- He and his Army deny the Christ, as they see Jesus as a Prophet of God, much like they see Muhammad as a Prophet of God.

Revelation 13:5 “And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months.”

- I have attached the wikipedia link that outlines when he became their leader. What it does not clarify is when ISIS decided to become a state. He fits the 42 months, and then some.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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The "antichrist" is a long way off according to scripture. First, the "beast" system (NWO/TPP) has to be established. This "system" will, of course, cause world-wide chaos. The "antichrist" will come to power through all this strife by professing peace and claiming that he is "The Christ" by performing miracles on a grand scale "Vulgar displays of power" more likely.
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nope Daniel 11:30 is clear he is from America

[link to biblehub.com]
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The "antichrist" is a long way off according to scripture. First, the "beast" system (NWO/TPP) has to be established. This "system" will, of course, cause world-wide chaos. The "antichrist" will come to power through all this strife by professing peace and claiming that he is "The Christ" by performing miracles on a grand scale "Vulgar displays of power" more likely.
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Say for arguments sake, the other part is irrelevant, or has passed without notice, and shall we have a conversation about if this man meets the criterion.
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The "antichrist" is a long way off according to scripture. First, the "beast" system (NWO/TPP) has to be established. This "system" will, of course, cause world-wide chaos. The "antichrist" will come to power through all this strife by professing peace and claiming that he is "The Christ" by performing miracles on a grand scale "Vulgar displays of power" more likely.
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you have been living in the beast system your entire life.
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The "antichrist" is a long way off according to scripture. First, the "beast" system (NWO/TPP) has to be established. This "system" will, of course, cause world-wide chaos. The "antichrist" will come to power through all this strife by professing peace and claiming that he is "The Christ" by performing miracles on a grand scale "Vulgar displays of power" more likely.
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you have been living in the beast system your entire life.
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Please hold still so I can cut your hair long
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The "antichrist" is a long way off according to scripture. First, the "beast" system (NWO/TPP) has to be established. This "system" will, of course, cause world-wide chaos. The "antichrist" will come to power through all this strife by professing peace and claiming that he is "The Christ" by performing miracles on a grand scale "Vulgar displays of power" more likely.
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Say for arguments sake, the other part is irrelevant, or has passed without notice, and shall we have a conversation about if this man meets the criterion.
 Quoting: The Awakened One


he knows nothing of what he is talking about especially about biblical eschatology...


Daniel 7 and jeremiah 17-25 is very clear

Then antichrist will be in power during the war in syria and overturn 3 kings in the middle east

which has just happened.
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nope Daniel 11:30 is clear he is from America

[link to biblehub.com]
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Although I do agree that our President does meet a lot of the criteria as well, the one killing the Christians is Baghdadi, and by biblically prophesied means of beheading. The beheading is a necessary component that is unique to them.
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The mortal wounding of one of the heads of the beast does not refer to a man. It is dealing with an empire, most likely the ottoman, but an Islamic one for sure.
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The "antichrist" is a long way off according to scripture. First, the "beast" system (NWO/TPP) has to be established. This "system" will, of course, cause world-wide chaos. The "antichrist" will come to power through all this strife by professing peace and claiming that he is "The Christ" by performing miracles on a grand scale "Vulgar displays of power" more likely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68027469


Say for arguments sake, the other part is irrelevant, or has passed without notice, and shall we have a conversation about if this man meets the criterion.
 Quoting: The Awakened One


he knows nothing of what he is talking about especially about biblical eschatology...


Daniel 7 and jeremiah 17-25 is very clear

Then antichrist will be in power during the war in syria and overturn 3 kings in the middle east

which has just happened.
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That is what I see as well, thus the discussion.
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The mortal wounding of one of the heads of the beast does not refer to a man. It is dealing with an empire, most likely the ottoman, but an Islamic one for sure.
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Like the death of Bin Laden?

Two witnesses perhaps... Anyone?
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ISIS came out of Al Qaeda. Two beasts, one smaller than the other, and then had time to grow.
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nope Daniel 11:30 is clear he is from America

[link to biblehub.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41118114


Although I do agree that our President does meet a lot of the criteria as well, the one killing the Christians is Baghdadi, and by biblically prophesied means of beheading. The beheading is a necessary component that is unique to them.
 Quoting: The Awakened One


no he is not... are you new to Glp..

Obama started and funded the Muslim brotherhood movement in the middle east..He trained them in Jordan we have pics.



It has been proven by Al CICI of the egyptian government that Obama funded the Muslim Brotherhood to overthrow Libya, Egypt, Iraq and Syria..
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nope Daniel 11:30 is clear he is from America

[link to biblehub.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41118114


Although I do agree that our President does meet a lot of the criteria as well, the one killing the Christians is Baghdadi, and by biblically prophesied means of beheading. The beheading is a necessary component that is unique to them.
 Quoting: The Awakened One


no he is not... are you new to Glp..

Obama started and funded the Muslim brotherhood movement in the middle east..He trained them in Jordan we have pics.



It has been proven by Al CICI of the egyptian government that Obama funded the Muslim Brotherhood to overthrow Libya, Egypt, Iraq and Syria..
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we have a copy of the check 8 billion dollars..
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The last 'head' of the Islamic empire was the ottoman one defeated 'mortally wounded' when the British took control of Jerusalem. Amazingly, it appears to be coming to life again under erdogan. It's certainly his dream.
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here have a look at this.. We have a video of Rand Paul saying Democrats fully funded ISIS.

10 kings, 10 horns of the beast Given no Kingdom as of yet?
"The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. 13T hey have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast. 14 They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”

I GIVE YOU 10 KINGS WHO HAVE RECEIVED NO KINGDOM AS OF YET!
The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.


ISIL
AL QAIDA
AL NUSRA
AL SHABAAB
MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
BOKO HARAM
HAMAS
HEZBOLLAH
AL-AQSA MARTYRS BRIGADE
PALESTINE LIBERATION FRONT


TEN KINGS WHO HAVE NO KINGDOM AS OF YET BUT WERE PROMISED ONE IN A MEETING MADE IN ONE HOUR WITH THE BEAST..

OBAMA!
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The last 'head' of the Islamic empire was the ottoman one defeated 'mortally wounded' when the British took control of Jerusalem. Amazingly, it appears to be coming to life again under erdogan. It's certainly his dream.
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except the Book of daniel 11 says the AC is from the west.
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Do you know what the dragon means in the book of Revelation??
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here have a look at this.. We have a video of Rand Paul saying Democrats fully funded ISIS.

10 kings, 10 horns of the beast Given no Kingdom as of yet?
"The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. 13T hey have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast. 14 They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”

I GIVE YOU 10 KINGS WHO HAVE RECEIVED NO KINGDOM AS OF YET!
The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.


ISIL
AL QAIDA
AL NUSRA
AL SHABAAB
MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
BOKO HARAM
HAMAS
HEZBOLLAH
AL-AQSA MARTYRS BRIGADE
PALESTINE LIBERATION FRONT


TEN KINGS WHO HAVE NO KINGDOM AS OF YET BUT WERE PROMISED ONE IN A MEETING MADE IN ONE HOUR WITH THE BEAST..

OBAMA!
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Or their ranks come from ten nation states. ISIS is actively operating in over 10 different countries.
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here have a look at this.. We have a video of Rand Paul saying Democrats fully funded ISIS.

10 kings, 10 horns of the beast Given no Kingdom as of yet?
"The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. 13T hey have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast. 14 They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”

I GIVE YOU 10 KINGS WHO HAVE RECEIVED NO KINGDOM AS OF YET!
The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.


ISIL
AL QAIDA
AL NUSRA
AL SHABAAB
MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
BOKO HARAM
HAMAS
HEZBOLLAH
AL-AQSA MARTYRS BRIGADE
PALESTINE LIBERATION FRONT


TEN KINGS WHO HAVE NO KINGDOM AS OF YET BUT WERE PROMISED ONE IN A MEETING MADE IN ONE HOUR WITH THE BEAST..

OBAMA!
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Or their ranks come from ten nation states. ISIS is actively operating in over 10 different countries.
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yes but their main target is whom?
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The last 'head' of the Islamic empire was the ottoman one defeated 'mortally wounded' when the British took control of Jerusalem. Amazingly, it appears to be coming to life again under erdogan. It's certainly his dream.
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except the Book of daniel 11 says the AC is from the west.
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West of Babylon would be Syria. Perspective of the author.
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see most Christians dont even know what dragon means in the bible. would you like to learn?
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The last 'head' of the Islamic empire was the ottoman one defeated 'mortally wounded' when the British took control of Jerusalem. Amazingly, it appears to be coming to life again under erdogan. It's certainly his dream.
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except the Book of daniel 11 says the AC is from the west.
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West of Babylon would be Syria. Perspective of the author.
 Quoting: The Awakened One


nope..
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see most Christians dont even know what dragon means in the bible. would you like to learn?
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Hold up, let me read it in the scripture, then I will give you my take...
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you wont understand unless i show it too you
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tell me when you are ready
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tell me when you are ready
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Go ahead and explain it. I see this as taking place where we cannot see... Heven.
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oh no its right here on earth
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ok, take this verse from revelation 13 about the antichrist the second beast..

Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.


do you see how he acts like a christian but speaks as a dragon?
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The Antichrist is not a man on Earth right now. However, there are many antichrists in the world. Lucifer, Satan, the serpent, whatever you want to call him is the Antichrist Defacto. He does not share power with a mortal man.

If your eyes are open and you have ears to hear, you will know him when he arrives. For he will come looking as an angel of light but speak as a Dragon.





GLP