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"Mass Bank Closures" So 1 bank is mass?


One = One
Pair = Two
Few = Three
Many = Four
Multiple = Five
A lot = 5-10
Massive = nearly all.


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I don't know the exact number, but it's a lot more than one, bro.

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Thank you!
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you're welcome,OP!!! thanks for the great thread! 5 stars! I'm saving this to favorites!!
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"Bro"


I remember when calling someone a Bro, was a good think.

Thanks to the internet everything has changed.

Yeah it's more than 1, but it's one major one and 2 other local banks.
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You know how they always have a way of having "drills" turn into the real thing. There was a plane hijacking drill going on during 9/11. Just watch out.
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9-11, you mean the answer to Israel's energy crisis?

this time it's not for energy, it's to remove the last great threat isreal in the middle east...Iran

get ready Benjamin Netanyahu false flag Will nuclear

if you haven't heard the Jews just exploded a dirty bomb in isreal

[link to www.haaretz.com]

bibi make something go boom real soon
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I'm only up to page 4...

Thsi is a very interesting thread. Thank you all for our input!
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If I'm not mistaken, near the end of the movie San Andreas (2015) you see various buildings falling. I think most were banking buildings.
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Someone wrote in the comments of a youtube video regarding Jade Helm "Banks close- Jade Hell", maybe they mean green as in money...when they named it Jade Helm...or maybe they were referring to something Chinese ?
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It was Bank of America and Citi buildings that fell in the movie.
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I have 2 relatively minor points to bring up. The first is my opinion and originally Antony Sutton's thought that gold... physical gold that is, is the only true currency available to have with which we can protect ourselves from a societal meltdown. Gold coins can be purchased in tenths of an ounce. This would be the wisest place to put your money if you felt assured of a banking meltdown. Tenths would make it far simpler to make transactions in the event of a cataclysmic meltdown of this type.

My second point which speaks more directly to this thread is that as a network engineer, I don't understand how hackers are supposed to infiltrate banking networks. These networks use closed circuits with proprietary protocols. I know that nothing is invulnerable to hacking. I also do not pretend to know everything about networking. I do not see however how a kid, genius or not, could hack into these networks. The NSA could do it easily I am sure. But to have people claim to have hacked into a dedicated circuit which does not use TCP/IP protocols does not seem like a plausible false flag attack. Of course relatively few people know how banks communicate with each other through the FED so perhaps they are counting on that.
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Have any of these banks cited "plumbing problems" yet, I wonder?

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I have 2 relatively minor points to bring up. The first is my opinion and originally Antony Sutton's thought that gold... physical gold that is, is the only true currency available to have with which we can protect ourselves from a societal meltdown. Gold coins can be purchased in tenths of an ounce. This would be the wisest place to put your money if you felt assured of a banking meltdown. Tenths would make it far simpler to make transactions in the event of a cataclysmic meltdown of this type.

My second point which speaks more directly to this thread is that as a network engineer, I don't understand how hackers are supposed to infiltrate banking networks. These networks use closed circuits with proprietary protocols. I know that nothing is invulnerable to hacking. I also do not pretend to know everything about networking. I do not see however how a kid, genius or not, could hack into these networks. The NSA could do it easily I am sure. But to have people claim to have hacked into a dedicated circuit which does not use TCP/IP protocols does not seem like a plausible false flag attack. Of course relatively few people know how banks communicate with each other through the FED so perhaps they are counting on that.
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Having no background in any field that you are familiar with, I really can't tell if my following comment is something you'll laugh at, or, seem reasonable...but I'll give it a try:

Just last night I watched the 2005 film with Wesly Snipes: Chaos (not the other 2005 film by the same name).

In this story a bank is held up, but nothing seems to have been taken.

Further on in the movie one of the detectives notices for the first time, after multiple reviews, a very short "WTF are they hiding?" moment just before the security cam goes dead.

The robbery was not to steal anything from that branch's vault, as these bank robbers had done in the past at other sites, but an elaborate scheme to hack INTO the Bank's entire worldwide banking system via the manager's computer, implanting a virus that immediately began skimming small amounts from all of their accounts, amounting to the tune of One Billion Dollars.

Each of these tens of millions of transfers went into a series of dummy accounts before landing in the final accessible accounts of the mastermind...which he considered would be impossible to trace. He did get away.

This leads me to believe that anyone crafty enough to programme a similar viral escapade would be able to achieve whatever they wish to break down the global banking system.

On another note, who's to know if there aren't elaborate viruses already sitting in systems which have been coded to begin?

What might make this happen? Would it have to be on a specific date? Or, couldn't it start by simply making a deposit into an 'idle' account, which then activates the intended cascade?

Maybe this has already been tested on the small scale, to see if it's is suitable. A few weeks ago I was able to transfer funds between three accounts, and pay a loan, but that same online session would not allow me to make a payment on the bank's credit card.

I tried twice. Each time, despite the fact that I received a message that the payment had been made, no funds were taken from the account I was paying from, and my summary showed that no activity had been recorded for that card, which was still showing as unpaid.

Where did those payments go during this glitch? A few days later I saw that both payments were finally noted.

One online banking session, with five transactions made, and only three being immediately debited or credited.

The monies went somewhere for the interim, despite the transactions 'being noted as completed'; the bank's system failed to debit my checking account, or credit my credit account.

The transactions had to have been rerouted SOMEWHERE for x amount of time, between the moment I made them, and when the system finally routed them back to my accounts.

I know I was not the only one, because just after this happened I came across a thread by someone who was having problems the same day, at another bank.

__________

Maybe there is something to all this. I guess we'll be finding out soon enough. In the meantime, I wonder if it might be a good idea to only put enough money into my account to cover my bills that are due on the 15th and 16th...which is practically half of them. I typically pay all of them out on the 13th or 14th, which this month falls on a weekend.

Maybe I will just wait to pay them on their due date this month, just in case I lose access to my meager funds, should something go down. I'd rather have money in hand, than find I can't access it.




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E.M.

From what I understand when you pay bills from your bank, it goes to a the bank Holding Place with everyone else that is sending money to that particular business. Then they send EVERYONES over at once.

That's what a bank lady told me years ago.
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E.M.

From what I understand when you pay bills from your bank, it goes to a the bank Holding Place with everyone else that is sending money to that particular business. Then they send EVERYONES over at once.

That's what a bank lady told me years ago.
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That principle I could understand, but while I was online making all these transactions at the same bank, and during the same session, with each transaction my accounts duly noted that x amount had been debited from account A and credited to account B. An x amount had been debited from account A and credited into account C.

Each time, when I approved the transfer, I got back a reply that the transaction was complete, immediately able to see them for the various accounts.

But after making the payment on the credit card, again as a debit from account A, now to be credited to account D...even though I also received the same reply-TWICE-that the transaction was completed successfully, account A was never debited, and account D showed no recent activity.

In all of the 15 years I've been banking online, I've never had this happen.

Other than those transactions, there was never a delay in that same bank immediately debiting funds from one of their accounts as payment for another of their accounts.

I did not even have a 'transaction pending' notification on my account summaries.

This is what I was trying to explain.

I know that when I pay other 'vendor's' bills through my bank account there is a delay, but these were all in-house accounts, made through immediate transfers of funds, between their various account types.

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I have 2 relatively minor points to bring up. The first is my opinion and originally Antony Sutton's thought that gold... physical gold that is, is the only true currency available to have with which we can protect ourselves from a societal meltdown. Gold coins can be purchased in tenths of an ounce. This would be the wisest place to put your money if you felt assured of a banking meltdown. Tenths would make it far simpler to make transactions in the event of a cataclysmic meltdown of this type.

My second point which speaks more directly to this thread is that as a network engineer, I don't understand how hackers are supposed to infiltrate banking networks. These networks use closed circuits with proprietary protocols. I know that nothing is invulnerable to hacking. I also do not pretend to know everything about networking. I do not see however how a kid, genius or not, could hack into these networks. The NSA could do it easily I am sure. But to have people claim to have hacked into a dedicated circuit which does not use TCP/IP protocols does not seem like a plausible false flag attack. Of course relatively few people know how banks communicate with each other through the FED so perhaps they are counting on that.
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Having no background in any field that you are familiar with, I really can't tell if my following comment is something you'll laugh at, or, seem reasonable...but I'll give it a try:

Just last night I watched the 2005 film with Wesly Snipes: Chaos (not the other 2005 film by the same name).

In this story a bank is held up, but nothing seems to have been taken.

Further on in the movie one of the detectives notices for the first time, after multiple reviews, a very short "WTF are they hiding?" moment just before the security cam goes dead.

The robbery was not to steal anything from that branch's vault, as these bank robbers had done in the past at other sites, but an elaborate scheme to hack INTO the Bank's entire worldwide banking system via the manager's computer, implanting a virus that immediately began skimming small amounts from all of their accounts, amounting to the tune of One Billion Dollars.

Each of these tens of millions of transfers went into a series of dummy accounts before landing in the final accessible accounts of the mastermind...which he considered would be impossible to trace. He did get away.

This leads me to believe that anyone crafty enough to programme a similar viral escapade would be able to achieve whatever they wish to break down the global banking system.

On another note, who's to know if there aren't elaborate viruses already sitting in systems which have been coded to begin?

What might make this happen? Would it have to be on a specific date? Or, couldn't it start by simply making a deposit into an 'idle' account, which then activates the intended cascade?

Maybe this has already been tested on the small scale, to see if it's is suitable. A few weeks ago I was able to transfer funds between three accounts, and pay a loan, but that same online session would not allow me to make a payment on the bank's credit card.

I tried twice. Each time, despite the fact that I received a message that the payment had been made, no funds were taken from the account I was paying from, and my summary showed that no activity had been recorded for that card, which was still showing as unpaid.

Where did those payments go during this glitch? A few days later I saw that both payments were finally noted.

One online banking session, with five transactions made, and only three being immediately debited or credited.

The monies went somewhere for the interim, despite the transactions 'being noted as completed'; the bank's system failed to debit my checking account, or credit my credit account.

The transactions had to have been rerouted SOMEWHERE for x amount of time, between the moment I made them, and when the system finally routed them back to my accounts.

I know I was not the only one, because just after this happened I came across a thread by someone who was having problems the same day, at another bank.

__________

Maybe there is something to all this. I guess we'll be finding out soon enough. In the meantime, I wonder if it might be a good idea to only put enough money into my account to cover my bills that are due on the 15th and 16th...which is practically half of them. I typically pay all of them out on the 13th or 14th, which this month falls on a weekend.

Maybe I will just wait to pay them on their due date this month, just in case I lose access to my meager funds, should something go down. I'd rather have money in hand, than find I can't access it.

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Thank you very much for your response. I think that I saw that movie. But if I did it was quite a long time ago.

I will address your response from two angles.
The first would be the method these villains used to get the software or malicious code on the banks system. It is said in cyber security that if you first and foremost cannot control physical access to a system, you cannot in any way hope to protect it from unauthorized use. If a person can get physical access then the theory is they will own the system.

The second thought put forth by you involves Internet Banking transactions. These are highly secure in many ways but also, given the right circumstances they are very vulnerable. If you log in to your bank or credit card account with a compromised PC for example.

I was not considering single user transactions in my consideration of the idea that someone else suggested that the government was hiring young genius folks to hack banking networks and cause some catastrophic failure of the whole banking system. I personally do not believe that could be done in any way through single user transactions which DO use TCP/IP and are theoretically far more vulnerable to hacking.

I suppose a case could be made that the stock market could be greatly affected because, If I am not mistaken, the majority of the volume of daily trades happens through the Internet. Still it seems unlikely.
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E.M.

From what I understand when you pay bills from your bank, it goes to a the bank Holding Place with everyone else that is sending money to that particular business. Then they send EVERYONES over at once.

That's what a bank lady told me years ago.
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That principle I could understand, but while I was online making all these transactions at the same bank, and during the same session, with each transaction my accounts duly noted that x amount had been debited from account A and credited to account B. An x amount had been debited from account A and credited into account C.

Each time, when I approved the transfer, I got back a reply that the transaction was complete, immediately able to see them for the various accounts.

But after making the payment on the credit card, again as a debit from account A, now to be credited to account D...even though I also received the same reply-TWICE-that the transaction was completed successfully, account A was never debited, and account D showed no recent activity.

In all of the 15 years I've been banking online, I've never had this happen.

Other than those transactions, there was never a delay in that same bank immediately debiting funds from one of their accounts as payment for another of their accounts.

I did not even have a 'transaction pending' notification on my account summaries.

This is what I was trying to explain.

I know that when I pay other 'vendor's' bills through my bank account there is a delay, but these were all in-house accounts, made through immediate transfers of funds, between their various account types.

1dunno1
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One thing that you might want to consider. If what you are describing were to happen to say a million people on a daily basis at Bank of America for example. How much extra income might be made by the financial institution after 30 days with a certain percentage of these customers not realizing that their payment had not actually posted to their account?

"I'm sorry sir. I really believe that you made the payment but I do not have authority to credit your account the late fee because we have no record of the transaction".

Have you ever noticed how the phone company and the cable company will every now and then make a "mistake" on your bill but what do you know it never never ever is or was a mistake to your benefit?

They never undercharge you. In my opinion banks and their controllers are the biggest crooks of all.
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There's been 10 more since...i have their names as well.

From March 2013 to January 2015 there are now 54 dead bankers:


1. Mar 2013 – David Rossi, communications director of troubled Italian bank Monte dei Paschi di Siena (MPS).
Suicide by jumping out of the window

2. Apr 2013 - David William Waygood, HSBC Bank - National Westminster Bank.
Suicide by jumping in front of a moving train.

3. Jun 2013 - Rob Evans, vice chairman Bank of America.
Accident at the Iron Man Triathlon in France

4. Jul 2013 - Michael Burdin, Bank of America.
Suicide by jumping in front of a moving train

5. Jul 2013 - Sascha Schornstein, Royal Bank of Scotland.
Missing after his private plane crashed in the English Channel. The body was not found.

6. Jul 2013 - Carsten Schloter, Chief of the telecommunications company Swisscom and Board Member Swiss American Chamber of Commerce in Zurich.
Suicide

7. Jul 2013 - Hussein Najadi, founder of the Arab-Malaysian Banking Group.
Shot dead in a car park in Kuala Lumpur from a shooting at close range.

8. Aug 2013 - Pierre Wauthier, former JP Morgan employee, Chief Financial Officer of Swiss insurer Zurich.
Suicide in his home

9. Sep 2013 - Guy Ratovondrahona, head of the Federal Reserve Bank of Madagascar.
Sudden death. Cause unknown

10. Oct 2013 - Ezdehar Husainat, former JP Morgan banker.
Her own car crushed her to death in her own garage

11. Nov 2013 - Venera Minakhmetova, former financial analyst from Bank of America.
She was run over by a bus in London

12. Nov 2013 - Patrick Sheehan, Wells Fargo New York.
Car accident in New York

13 Dec 2013 - Joseph M. Ambrosio, Financial Analyst at JP Morgan.
Sudden respiratory illness resulting in death

14 Dec 2013 - Benjamin Idim, bankers Diamond Bank in Nigeria.
Car accident in New York

15 Dec 2013 - Jason Alan Salai, technology analyst at JP Morgan.
Heart attack

16 Dec 2013 - Susan Hewitt, former vice president of Deutsche Bank.
Drowned in a river at the Welsh Mountain Pass Nant Ffrancon

17. Dec 2013 - Robert Wilson, hedge fund manager from New York.
Jumped out of his apartment in Manhattan from the 16th floor

18 Jan 2014 - Tim Dickenson, communications and marketing director of the insurance company Swiss Re AG.
Sudden death. Cause unknown

19 Jan 2014 - William "Bill" Broeksmit, former risk manager at Deutsche Bank.
Was found dead in his apartment. Cause unknown

20 Jan 2014 - Karl Slym, Manager of India Tata Motors.
Suicide by jumping from his hotel room in Bangkok

21 Jan 2014 - Gabriel Magee, vice chairman of investment and technology JP Morgan.
Jumped from the roof of the 33-storey European Central building of JP Morgan in London

22 Jan 2014 - Mike Dueker, executive vice president of the Federal Reserve in St. Louis and chief economist at Russell Investments.
Jumped from a bridge in Washington

23 Feb 2014 - Ryan Henry Crane, equity trader at JP Morgan.
Found dead in his home. Cause unknown

24 Feb 2014 - John Ruiz, an analyst at Morgan Stanley.
Found dead in his home. Cause unknown

25 Feb 2014 - Richard Talley, founder of American Title Services in Centennial, Colorado.
Apparently killed himself with a nail gun

26 Feb 2014 - Li Junjie, Accountant at JP Morgan.
Jumped from the roof of the 30-story JP Morgan building in Hong Kong

27 Feb 2014 - James Stuart Junior, former head of the National Bank of Commerce.
Found dead in his home. Cause unknown

28 Feb 2014 - Autumn Radtke, president of First Meta - Trade Bitcoins.
Found dead in his apartment in Singapore

29 Mar 2014 - Edmund Reilly, stock traders at Midtown's Vertical Group.
Threw himself in front of a train in New York

30 Mar 2014 - Mohammed Hamwi, IT specialist financial firm Trepp in New York.
Three times shot in the head

31 Mar 2014 - Kenneth Bellandro, former banker JP Morgan.
Jumped out of his apartment in New York

32 Mar 2014 - Joseph Giampapa, JP Morgan lawyer.
Accident

33 Apr 2014 - Jan Peter Schmittmann, ex-head of the Dutch bank ABN Amro.
His body and the bodies of wife and daughter were found in his apartment in Amsterdam. Cause unknown

34 Apr 2014 - Amir Kess, co-founder and manager of Mark Stone Capital Group.
Cyclist hit by car

35 Apr 2014 - Jürgen Frick, Director of the Liechtenstein Bank Frick & Co. AG.
Shot near his garage. The shooter was Jürgen Hermann who committed suicide after the fact. His body was found in a river

36 Apr 2014 - Tanji Dewberry Vice President of WL Ross Investment in New York and Deputy Vice-Presidential of Credit Suisse.
She died in her burning house together with her son

37 Apr 2014 - Benedict Philippens, Director of Bank Ans-Saint-Nicolas.
Shot dead along with his wife and child in his house

38 Apr 2014 - Li Jianhua, director of the CBRC AfDB.
Heart attack

39 Apr 2014 - A French woman named Lydia from France's Bred Banque Populaire.
Jumped from an office building in Paris

40 Apr 2014 - Andrew Jarzyk, Executive Vice President of Commercial Banking at PNC Financial Services Group.
His body was found in the Hudson River. Original cause of death unknown

41 May 2014 - Thomas Schenkman, Manager of Global Infrastructure Engineering, JP Morgan.
Found dead in his apartment. He is said to have suffered from heart disease

42 May 2014 - Naseem Mubeen, vice president of ZBTL Bank, Islamabad.
Jumped out of the window of the headquarters of his bank

43 May 2014 -Nigel Sharvin, Manager at Ulster Bank Belfast.
Drowned. He was in Spain on a party and disappeared. The next day his body was found

44 May 2014 - Daniel Leaf, former manager at Bank of Scotland and managers of Saracen Fund Managers.
Fell off a ridge when climbing in the Scottish Highlands

45 Jun 2014 - Richard Gravino, team leader for application and development at JP Morgan.
Died in his house. Cause unknown

46 Jul 2014 - Julien Knott, Director at JP Morgan.
Killed wife and himself in murder-suicide

47 Jul 2014 - Nicholas Valtz, Chief Manager at Goldman Sachs.
Was found floating in the water secured to his kite

48 Aug 2014 - Steven Dowd, chief financial officer of CMS Bancorp in White Plains.
Sudden death. Cause unknown

49 Oct 2014 - Calogero Gambino, Manager at Deutsche Bank.
He died by hanging and was found at his home

50 Nov 2014 - Shawn D. Miller, Citigroup CEO.
Found dead in bathtub with throat slashed

51 Dec 2014 - Geert Tack, top bankers of ING Group.
His body was discovered on the coast of the Belgian port city of Ostend. Cause unknown

52 Dec 2014 - Scot Young, British Property Magnate
Dies after falling from his London Penthouse onto metal railings

53 Jan 2015 - Thomas Gilbert, founder of the US hedge fund Wainscott Capital Partners
Shot dead at his home by his son

54 Jan 2015 - Michael Flanagan, Head of Foreign Exchange Institutional Sales at National Australia Bank.
Found dead on a mountain in northern England
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I know that these bankers are evil, but this is still sad to me. What's sad is that their lives, and their entire self worth was wrapped up in their money. They felt they would be nothing without it. They lost sight of what mattered in life. Their hearts turned cold, and they joined the other side all in the name of chasing what they didn't have. More..more..more! Jesus said money was the root of all evil. These power-hungry ones who sold their soul illustrate that fact.
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If the economy crashes it will actually be all my fault, seriously. You see I used to be caught up in the payday loan trap, and was deeply overdrawn in my bank accounts by the end of each pay period, and only after a long hard struggle and many setbacks did I finally manage to get out from that hole I was in. While I'm not sitting pretty, I am not paying out legal vigorish, and it feels good. Unfortunately, all those payday loan fees and overdraft fees I was paying out must have been the only thing keeping the economy going, and now that I stopped doing it, the crash is just around the corner.
I know I'm setting myself up for a shitload of judgement about having done it, but until someone has been on a limited income and had a few setbacks, they have no idea how easy it is to get in such a trap.
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If the economy crashes it will actually be all my fault, seriously. You see I used to be caught up in the payday loan trap, and was deeply overdrawn in my bank accounts by the end of each pay period, and only after a long hard struggle and many setbacks did I finally manage to get out from that hole I was in. While I'm not sitting pretty, I am not paying out legal vigorish, and it feels good. Unfortunately, all those payday loan fees and overdraft fees I was paying out must have been the only thing keeping the economy going, and now that I stopped doing it, the crash is just around the corner.
I know I'm setting myself up for a shitload of judgement about having done it, but until someone has been on a limited income and had a few setbacks, they have no idea how easy it is to get in such a trap.
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What would be the point of instituting Martial Law in areas that are currently peaceful and law abiding?

What would be the end game of instituting Martial Law in areas that are currently peaceful and law abiding?

We are in a country of over 300 million people with thousands of cities.

What would be the point of instituting Martial Law in a handful of those cities only, while the vast majority of the population is experiencing life as usual?

Is there anyone who will attempt to answer these questions intelligently?
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What would be the point of instituting Martial Law in areas that are currently peaceful and law abiding?

What would be the end game of instituting Martial Law in areas that are currently peaceful and law abiding?

We are in a country of over 300 million people with thousands of cities.

What would be the point of instituting Martial Law in a handful of those cities only, while the vast majority of the population is experiencing life as usual?

Is there anyone who will attempt to answer these questions intelligently?
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I will try to pose some answers to the questions you have asked. But I must ask you to consider this. In order to understand and accept the answers to question like the ones you have asked here you need to have done some homework.

As I was thinking about how to phrase this, it dawned on me that as a person who has known that there is a hidden agenda operating behind the decisions made by every government in the world, I am not a conspiracy theorist. I am a conspiracy realist. And I deal in facts. I don't seek out outlandish and absurd theories just because I enjoy drama. I hate the drama. I also hate how alone I feel sometimes because it feels like there is not a soul within a hundred miles who has an inkling about what is going on in the world. It makes me sad. The thing that drives me is I love the truth. Above all else knowing the truth and not walking around in a fog of delusion like 99.99% of the world population does is very very important to me.

But to fully appreciate the import of what is going in this particular "military exercise" you must have an understanding of what is happening in the world in general. No one can simply tell you what is really going on either. You have to find out for yourself. There is no other way.

My advice is for you to read Genesis Chapter 6 from the King James Bible. From there you might want to research what a nephilim is. This is trippy stuff but it is the very foundation of what I believe personally. You see I am a follower of Jesus Christ. And I take everything in the Bible very very seriously. You may wish to watch a YouTube video from L.A. Marzulli where he documents about all of the bones of actual Giants that have been covered up by secret societies for centuries. The Smithsonian has gone to great lengths to get any evidence of giants and cover it up as quickly and as secretly as possible.

You see there is nothing anyone could do to me to persuade me that God is not alive. I know that I know this. And by the same token Satan is a real creature as well. He is extremely powerful but his power even in all of its strength is nothing compared to God's power. Satan is the father of lies. One of his most effective strategies has been to get the western cultures to believe he isn't real.

In this contrived matrix of a world that we live in we hear people who are supposedly authorities tell us that evolution is a fact. What a huge lie that is. There are so many reasons why evolution cannot be true, and I mean scientific reasons and not my biased opinion either, that you really can't believe the devil was able to pull it off. But he did. And now he can't let people find out there is evidence of giants all over the world and that are now and have been throughout history hybrid off spring of women and fallen angels called nephilim. Goliath was one.

Believe me I know this is so crazy who would believe it right? Problem is it's the truth. And since it is the truth, as hard as the devil may try he can't cover it up completely so the evidence is there for you if you want to find out for yourself. I have known people who when confronted with a mountain of evidence concerning any of one or two aspects of the truth about the darkness that is operating in this world simply couldn't handle it. They preferred to stay in delusion and I was pretty sad every time I saw that happen. The Bible calls it preferring a refuge of lies. They didn't love the truth enough to stick with it. I suppose they were simply curious at one point and it was a hobby of sorts to them to look into things that were bizarre.

Don't take what I am saying the wrong way. It sounds like I am talking about understanding the way the world works like it is my religion or something. Heaven forbid. I am one of the ones who really loves the Lord. I know that He loves me and died for me. I am redeemed by the blood of the Lamb. I want to make certain that you know where I am coming from because it is also very important (though decidedly less so) to know how the enemy of our souls operates. We are instructed to not be ignorant of his devices. We are to be as wise as serpents and as harmless as doves.

So my point is, that when someone rejects the truth about the enemy or God simply because they make a choice that they like it better the way it was before this confrontation, it is not a good thing at all for them spiritually. To simplify it. Like it or not they have chosen darkness over light.

I digress, I apologize for that. I know this is incredibly long but this is a vast subject which spans almost 6000 years. And believe it or not I am trying to hit on the high points in hopes that this will lead you to additional research topics with which you will be able to complete the over all picture.

You are also going to have to study the reality of the mind blowing evil which operates in full force behind the Jesuits every bit as completely today as any other day since 1540 when they began as an official group. Vatican Assassins by Eric Phelps could help with this aspect.

You will need to read about the Illuminati and their complete focus on bloodlines and intermarriage. There is a by Fritz Springmeier called Bloodlines of the Illuminati that is very important when trying to understand this aspect of the overall picture. You will discover that almost all of our presidents since George Washington have been related to one another and to Royalty in England and Europe.

It will also be necessary to read about the Freemasons and other secret societies around the world and how they are the hidden army of those who are ultimately pulling the strings.

You will then need to make the connection between Freemasons, government leadership and every governmental intelligence agency in every country in the world. After you are satisfied that you accept these realities. And it really isn't much of a stretch when you review the facts. You are maybe going to want to learn about MK-Ultra and mind control.

Two books I recommend are Walter Bowart's Operation Mind Control and Susan Ford's book Thanks for the memories. You may also want to read Antony Sutton and then there is a great YouTube video with a man named Aaron Russo that is worth watching.
Believe me I could go on and on but if you will just do maybe 10% of what if I have recommended here you will have done far more legitimate research than most of the people who would consider themselves well read on this subject. And on top of all of this you will have a really firm grasp of the reality of the grand conspiracy.

You see that was one of my personal battles. And I have heard people say this. This whole vast conspiracy is so absurd and outrageous that it can seem unreal a lot of the time and that very fact makes it easier to conceal. But it is all too real. I think one of the advantages that I have over other people is that this is obviously a plan that has been going on for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years. I may accept the reality that I am trying to convey a lot easier than most folks because I have no doubts about the existence of Satan. He is just repeating the original lie to those occult wizards and witches at the highest levels on down the pyramid. "You shall be like Gods". And he is also telling them that they will live forever if they surrender to him.

Even though this may be over simplistic, it is the essence of what Luciferians believe. I don't understand how they could possibly believe this either. Each one of them lies to the ones beneath them in rank. The same story for each one anything that works as long as it is not the truth.

So why Jade-Helm? Why just a portion of the country? I personally think it is a psyop which is short for a psychological operation. The reality is that this is exactly what it is for certain right now. I couldn't say with any opinion that matters whether or not Jade-Helm will remain a drill or suddenly go live. Although it is my personal belief that it will just be drill and a psyop this time. They will surely do it just this way one day, They will come in like it all a drill and people will start being killed and also taken to concentration camps.

You ask why Martial law? How Martial law? Well for one thing Congress gave Obama the power to declare Martial Law in 2012. Financially the U.S.is just like a huge freight train headed for the side of a mountain. Of course this is planned. The end game is a one world government for a one world religion for a false messiah. Consider this: I postulate that we are reviewing history that has been manipulated in a completely supernaturally brilliant way. The devil is smart. He is so smart that what we are going to see unfold are are going to be false events that will culminate in a false Antichrist and then guess who will come in to save the day? Yep the Antichrist himself. And the whole world will worship and adore him. And this is how they will be largely deceived. He is going to be a counterfeit Christ.

Listen when I say counterfeit I don't mean a cheap knock off. He is going to be so close to the real thing outwardly that the Bible tells us that he would deceive even God's elect if it were possible.

So this is the reason that they are preparing for Martial Law in this country. They have it all lined up. We are going to see a repeat of what Hitler did to the Jews. This time however it will be whomever is in charge of the U.S. Government and they will be killing Christians. Killing Christians? Who would want to do that? It is so obvious when you realize that Satan's highly organized underworld is completely behind it all.

There are other things that they are already accomplishing with Jade-Helm. They are getting a handle on the attitudes of the American people in general toward an exercise like this. There has never been a military exercise like this one in U.S. History. Why do you think they published a map of the affected states and named Texas as Hostile? They want to find out what Texas as group of people and each individual are thinking. They are gathering loads and loads of intelligence on Texas broken up into regions all the way down to each individual.

Finally you can bet your bottom dollar that they are making note of who and what groups of people are going to be their biggest threats to the take over of what could arguably be the most difficult state to take fascist control over. They probably are going to wind up with large files on every single neighborhood. When Martial law comes the only indication that we will have that there is a threat will probably be that the Internet and our phones will stop working. Television will operate normally I am sure. Then people like me will find themselves en-route to a FEMA Camp for either reeducation or termination. It will be impossible to reeducate me. Of that I am sure.
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What would be the point of instituting Martial Law in areas that are currently peaceful and law abiding?

What would be the end game of instituting Martial Law in areas that are currently peaceful and law abiding?

We are in a country of over 300 million people with thousands of cities.

What would be the point of instituting Martial Law in a handful of those cities only, while the vast majority of the population is experiencing life as usual?

Is there anyone who will attempt to answer these questions intelligently?
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I will try to pose some answers to the questions you have asked. But I must ask you to consider this. In order to understand and accept the answers to question like the ones you have asked here you need to have done some homework.

As I was thinking about how to phrase this, it dawned on me that as a person who has known that there is a hidden agenda operating behind the decisions made by every government in the world, I am not a conspiracy theorist. I am a conspiracy realist. And I deal in facts. I don't seek out outlandish and absurd theories just because I enjoy drama. I hate the drama. I also hate how alone I feel sometimes because it feels like there is not a soul within a hundred miles who has an inkling about what is going on in the world. It makes me sad. The thing that drives me is I love the truth. Above all else knowing the truth and not walking around in a fog of delusion like 99.99% of the world population does is very very important to me.

But to fully appreciate the import of what is going in this particular "military exercise" you must have an understanding of what is happening in the world in general. No one can simply tell you what is really going on either. You have to find out for yourself. There is no other way.

My advice is for you to read Genesis Chapter 6 from the King James Bible. From there you might want to research what a nephilim is. This is trippy stuff but it is the very foundation of what I believe personally. You see I am a follower of Jesus Christ. And I take everything in the Bible very very seriously. You may wish to watch a YouTube video from L.A. Marzulli where he documents about all of the bones of actual Giants that have been covered up by secret societies for centuries. The Smithsonian has gone to great lengths to get any evidence of giants and cover it up as quickly and as secretly as possible.

You see there is nothing anyone could do to me to persuade me that God is not alive. I know that I know this. And by the same token Satan is a real creature as well. He is extremely powerful but his power even in all of its strength is nothing compared to God's power. Satan is the father of lies. One of his most effective strategies has been to get the western cultures to believe he isn't real.

In this contrived matrix of a world that we live in we hear people who are supposedly authorities tell us that evolution is a fact. What a huge lie that is. There are so many reasons why evolution cannot be true, and I mean scientific reasons and not my biased opinion either, that you really can't believe the devil was able to pull it off. But he did. And now he can't let people find out there is evidence of giants all over the world and that are now and have been throughout history hybrid off spring of women and fallen angels called nephilim. Goliath was one.

Believe me I know this is so crazy who would believe it right? Problem is it's the truth. And since it is the truth, as hard as the devil may try he can't cover it up completely so the evidence is there for you if you want to find out for yourself. I have known people who when confronted with a mountain of evidence concerning any of one or two aspects of the truth about the darkness that is operating in this world simply couldn't handle it. They preferred to stay in delusion and I was pretty sad every time I saw that happen. The Bible calls it preferring a refuge of lies. They didn't love the truth enough to stick with it. I suppose they were simply curious at one point and it was a hobby of sorts to them to look into things that were bizarre.

Don't take what I am saying the wrong way. It sounds like I am talking about understanding the way the world works like it is my religion or something. Heaven forbid. I am one of the ones who really loves the Lord. I know that He loves me and died for me. I am redeemed by the blood of the Lamb. I want to make certain that you know where I am coming from because it is also very important (though decidedly less so) to know how the enemy of our souls operates. We are instructed to not be ignorant of his devices. We are to be as wise as serpents and as harmless as doves.

So my point is, that when someone rejects the truth about the enemy or God simply because they make a choice that they like it better the way it was before this confrontation, it is not a good thing at all for them spiritually. To simplify it. Like it or not they have chosen darkness over light.

I digress, I apologize for that. I know this is incredibly long but this is a vast subject which spans almost 6000 years. And believe it or not I am trying to hit on the high points in hopes that this will lead you to additional research topics with which you will be able to complete the over all picture.

You are also going to have to study the reality of the mind blowing evil which operates in full force behind the Jesuits every bit as completely today as any other day since 1540 when they began as an official group. Vatican Assassins by Eric Phelps could help with this aspect.

You will need to read about the Illuminati and their complete focus on bloodlines and intermarriage. There is a by Fritz Springmeier called Bloodlines of the Illuminati that is very important when trying to understand this aspect of the overall picture. You will discover that almost all of our presidents since George Washington have been related to one another and to Royalty in England and Europe.

It will also be necessary to read about the Freemasons and other secret societies around the world and how they are the hidden army of those who are ultimately pulling the strings.

You will then need to make the connection between Freemasons, government leadership and every governmental intelligence agency in every country in the world. After you are satisfied that you accept these realities. And it really isn't much of a stretch when you review the facts. You are maybe going to want to learn about MK-Ultra and mind control.

Two books I recommend are Walter Bowart's Operation Mind Control and Susan Ford's book Thanks for the memories. You may also want to read Antony Sutton and then there is a great YouTube video with a man named Aaron Russo that is worth watching.
Believe me I could go on and on but if you will just do maybe 10% of what if I have recommended here you will have done far more legitimate research than most of the people who would consider themselves well read on this subject. And on top of all of this you will have a really firm grasp of the reality of the grand conspiracy.

You see that was one of my personal battles. And I have heard people say this. This whole vast conspiracy is so absurd and outrageous that it can seem unreal a lot of the time and that very fact makes it easier to conceal. But it is all too real. I think one of the advantages that I have over other people is that this is obviously a plan that has been going on for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years. I may accept the reality that I am trying to convey a lot easier than most folks because I have no doubts about the existence of Satan. He is just repeating the original lie to those occult wizards and witches at the highest levels on down the pyramid. "You shall be like Gods". And he is also telling them that they will live forever if they surrender to him.

Even though this may be over simplistic, it is the essence of what Luciferians believe. I don't understand how they could possibly believe this either. Each one of them lies to the ones beneath them in rank. The same story for each one anything that works as long as it is not the truth.

So why Jade-Helm? Why just a portion of the country? I personally think it is a psyop which is short for a psychological operation. The reality is that this is exactly what it is for certain right now. I couldn't say with any opinion that matters whether or not Jade-Helm will remain a drill or suddenly go live. Although it is my personal belief that it will just be drill and a psyop this time. They will surely do it just this way one day, They will come in like it all a drill and people will start being killed and also taken to concentration camps.

You ask why Martial law? How Martial law? Well for one thing Congress gave Obama the power to declare Martial Law in 2012. Financially the U.S.is just like a huge freight train headed for the side of a mountain. Of course this is planned. The end game is a one world government for a one world religion for a false messiah. Consider this: I postulate that we are reviewing history that has been manipulated in a completely supernaturally brilliant way. The devil is smart. He is so smart that what we are going to see unfold are are going to be false events that will culminate in a false Antichrist and then guess who will come in to save the day? Yep the Antichrist himself. And the whole world will worship and adore him. And this is how they will be largely deceived. He is going to be a counterfeit Christ.

Listen when I say counterfeit I don't mean a cheap knock off. He is going to be so close to the real thing outwardly that the Bible tells us that he would deceive even God's elect if it were possible.

So this is the reason that they are preparing for Martial Law in this country. They have it all lined up. We are going to see a repeat of what Hitler did to the Jews. This time however it will be whomever is in charge of the U.S. Government and they will be killing Christians. Killing Christians? Who would want to do that? It is so obvious when you realize that Satan's highly organized underworld is completely behind it all.

There are other things that they are already accomplishing with Jade-Helm. They are getting a handle on the attitudes of the American people in general toward an exercise like this. There has never been a military exercise like this one in U.S. History. Why do you think they published a map of the affected states and named Texas as Hostile? They want to find out what Texas as group of people and each individual are thinking. They are gathering loads and loads of intelligence on Texas broken up into regions all the way down to each individual.

Finally you can bet your bottom dollar that they are making note of who and what groups of people are going to be their biggest threats to the take over of what could arguably be the most difficult state to take fascist control over. They probably are going to wind up with large files on every single neighborhood. When Martial law comes the only indication that we will have that there is a threat will probably be that the Internet and our phones will stop working. Television will operate normally I am sure. Then people like me will find themselves en-route to a FEMA Camp for either reeducation or termination. It will be impossible to reeducate me. Of that I am sure.
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Great comments! Thanks for sharing.
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"What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Galatians 5: 22-23
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I understood that JH had been moved up to June 15th, but I'm seeing posts on here where it has already started. Today is only the 10th. They are moving fast.
"Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you." - Matthew 22: 37-39

"What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Galatians 5: 22-23
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You know how they always have a way of having "drills" turn into the real thing. There was a plane hijacking drill going on during 9/11. Just watch out.
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Is your name Adrian? Lol titsy
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Whoa, there are no words! The Bank Of America (among other banks) will be closing in the areas of Jade Helm starting June 16th. This might possibly support Suzanne Posel's work. Her theory is that they are going to declare a "virus in all the banks" and tell you something like "On Monday you'll be fine". She said when they say that, you have 72 hours until martial law. This might just be a drill folks, but the real thing is coming. Get ready!
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Nothing will happen, no mass bank closures, no Marshall Law, no financial carsh, NO-THING!
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Whoa, there are no words! The Bank Of America (among other banks) will be closing in the areas of Jade Helm starting June 16th. This might possibly support Suzanne Posel's work. Her theory is that they are going to declare a "virus in all the banks" and tell you something like "On Monday you'll be fine". She said when they say that, you have 72 hours until martial law. This might just be a drill folks, but the real thing is coming. Get ready!
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bsflag

Nothing will happen, no mass bank closures, no Marshall Law, no financial carsh, NO-THING!
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You're a little late. It's already started.
"Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you." - Matthew 22: 37-39

"What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Galatians 5: 22-23





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