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The world is drowning in debt, warns Goldman Sachs

 
MonocyteOne

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05/27/2015 12:26 AM
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Re: The world is drowning in debt, warns Goldman Sachs
Thread title is hilarious in its irony!

lmao

Last Edited by everLearner on 05/27/2015 12:26 AM
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Re: The world is drowning in debt, warns Goldman Sachs
All these countries who are simultaneously in debt, and have been for the past so many years as one can count, what is the only way to "pay that debt off"?
 Quoting: Lil' Red

How about doing away with "usury" to begin with. Then you can do away with non-productive government jobs that only hinder business with endless regulations and code violations.

Then they could confiscate most of the illegal money banks loot from us. Then they could actually educate kids instead of dumbing them down.

Then they could quit wasting obscene amounts of money on wars and maybe spend some money on things inside these nations.

Those are just things to start off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69331475

Read my above reply.

The Banks interest charge is worse than usury because the Banks fiat currency is your credit amount.

The Banks fiat currency just like your credit, has no value.

The Banks attach interest to fiat currency not only has no value, but actually negative in value because cost of material and time to print.

The Banks are printing everyone's credit amount into the Banks fiat currency so the Bank can put a lien on its currency and attach interest... they cant do that to your credit.
And people have been duped with the word 'money'.

Call Wells Fargo, they should tell you the Homeowner finances debt (negative value).

They sell the homeowner the Banks fiat currency even though the Bank knows it has no value.

Where does value for the Banks fiat currency come from?

Labor.

Citizens time/energy and labor adds value to it.

That's why the Bank is charging interest.

The Bank collects fiat currency from Citizens Bank account 'after' Citizens work...because through working, Citizens are adding positive value to the Banks fiat.

This is how the Banks "create money out of thin air"...by turning your credit into the Banks negative value fiat currency, attaching interest, then collect fiat currency with positive value from your Bank account after you work.

This Banking system has turned people into slaves and people allow it because they cannot recognize the simplicity of what is taking place.

Remove the word "money" from your vocabulary or you may never be able to understand it.

Share the message...
 Quoting: Donny Boy


Don't waste your breath. OP is a subhuman devil who belongs in chains, or burned from the earth.

"People" like this piece of shit are beyond repair. Usury is a gift to this little bitch. He deserves to be whipped. Or killed.
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05/27/2015 12:33 AM
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Re: The world is drowning in debt, warns Goldman Sachs
As someone who has never had debt (and subsequently owns fuckall) I hope the debtors and creditors all burn in hell.
Fuck them for setting it up, and fuck you for playing their game.
You didn't have to...you chose to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48577041


Yeah, I chose to. I bought a house to protect my wife and kids from the weather and the heathen. In doing so I paid for the labor and materials that paid tons of other people. I furnished the house to make my family comfy and all the people who manufactured those things got paid and could in turn pay their bills. I pay property taxes that pay the worthless shit at city hall.

So, yeah, I chose to do it. And, everyone is the fuck better off for it, too.
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05/27/2015 01:42 AM
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Live now pay later.... live high on the hog now, pay low in the mud with hog walking all over you later5aIdol1
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05/27/2015 01:58 AM
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No it is not. Debt is an illusion, so is money. When you buy into their system you slave yourself away. Fuck the system. I am outside of it, not bound by it, because I choose not to have it define me, nor control me. Live your life accordingly. If you want to be a slave to debt, sign the dotted line, if you want to live free as the rest of the species on this planet, adapt. Manipulate the system to your advantage. Survive. Fuck the corrupt, debtors prisons, for profit fuckheads. In a moment their heads will be fed to the pigs they became. Let it fall. No one is entitled to shit.
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05/27/2015 04:25 AM
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Re: The world is drowning in debt, warns Goldman Sachs
The illusion is the word 'money'.

You cannot print fiat currency with positive value straight from the printer... only negative value.
It can only act as credit, but people are duped into thinking the US gov is printing "money" .
 Quoting: Donny Boy


Your points hit home for me.

It all ties back to the fundamentals of trust.

A lack of trust comes at a cost.

Through inefficient contracts and agreements, we transact without trust via 'money', the fiat currency, the pinnacle of said contracts, whereby only "in god we trust".

Interest compounds because trust will never be the product of distrust - Ie if there is interest, then there was no trust to begin with.

Most regretful of all things I will say, I close in saying it is a shame that countless bloodlines of trust worthy, honerable soldiers chose to stand, fight, and die for your contractual-distrust!

twentytwenty
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Re: The world is drowning in debt, warns Goldman Sachs
The illusion is the word 'money'.

You cannot print fiat currency with positive value straight from the printer... only negative value.
It can only act as credit, but people are duped into thinking the US gov is printing "money" .
 Quoting: Donny Boy


Your points hit home for me.

It all ties back to the fundamentals of trust.

A lack of trust comes at a cost.

Through inefficient contracts and agreements, we transact without trust via 'money', the fiat currency, the pinnacle of said contracts, whereby only "in god we trust".

Interest compounds because trust will never be the product of distrust - Ie if there is interest, then there was no trust to begin with.

Most regretful of all things I will say, I close in saying it is a shame that countless bloodlines of trust worthy, honerable soldiers chose to stand, fight, and die for your contractual-distrust!

twentytwenty
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and by 'your contractual-distrust', I mean the collective pawn citizen, def not you Donny.

Thanks
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05/27/2015 04:44 AM
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Re: The world is drowning in debt, warns Goldman Sachs
- Increase working hours
- Extend retirement age to 80
 Quoting: Lil' Red


Unfortunately a nation's resources are limited. To produce anything, you need resources. Only very few are needed those days to gather those resources and even less are needed to turn those resources into products.

Increasing working hours or retirement helps with nothing, other than with increasing youth unemployment. You only need a few human working hours, for the almost fully automatized processes of collecting resources and turning those into products.

You can of course get rid of all pensioners. Everyone over 55 has to be turned into soylent green for the greater good.


The nations will never get out of debt and they know it. As soon as they cut the money supply and stop inflating, the lack of new loans and deflation will make it impossible to serve the debt rates, leading in a sell out of the nation, which is of course intended.

land, water even the air owned by large international corporations controlled by the global banking mafia tribe. That's the goal.

Ultimate slavedome, with no chance to revolt vs a total surveillance world, with super high tech military weapons allowing to keep the slaves at bay, with just a few slavemasters pushing the buttons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69271166


Spot on. Older people working longer is actually starting to become a very serious problem in several countries, leading to massive shortages of jobs for the young. Even for those younger people who get jobs it blocks opportunities for them to 'climb the ladder' (or any remaining rungs of the ladder that still exist). Of course, it doesn't stop Baby Boomers from bitching about the young, even though many of those very same Boomers are the ones causing the problems.

I'm not trying to be anti-older people, but they seem to think they can 'have their cake and eat it', and have, in a large part, collectively forgotten that they created this mess (or at least very much contributed to it). Its time everyone just got real and admitted that it is all screwed up past the point of no return.
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05/27/2015 05:04 AM
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Re: The world is drowning in debt, warns Goldman Sachs
The Debt is artificial -

just write everything off and bankrupt the Zionist Ponzi banksters

All debt is forgiven
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05/27/2015 05:11 AM
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Re: The world is drowning in debt, warns Goldman Sachs
Greenland is GIGANTIC!!
I love that distorted projection!
The USA is so far in debt, we will NEVER
see daylight, and we haven't even attempted
to slow our slide into bankruptcy.

If the world, including Americans, is smart,
they will disconnect themselves from the US
federal government as fast as they can.

If you are on ANY kind of federal government
check, start planning for when that check
will no longer be in the mail, because that
day is right around the corner.

They are preparing for that day right now:
Jade Helm.
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05/27/2015 05:13 AM
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Re: The world is drowning in debt, warns Goldman Sachs
That's weird because I don't have any personal debt. Money can be short sometimes, but if there is debt it sure as hell is this my fault.
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05/27/2015 05:18 AM
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Re: The world is drowning in debt, warns Goldman Sachs
No it is not. Debt is an illusion, so is money. When you buy into their system you slave yourself away. Fuck the system. I am outside of it, not bound by it, because I choose not to have it define me, nor control me. Live your life accordingly. If you want to be a slave to debt, sign the dotted line, if you want to live free as the rest of the species on this planet, adapt. Manipulate the system to your advantage. Survive. Fuck the corrupt, debtors prisons, for profit fuckheads. In a moment their heads will be fed to the pigs they became. Let it fall. No one is entitled to shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63048412


Debt is as real as it gets.
Don't want to get into debt?

DON'T BUY WITH CREDIT CARDS.
DON'T TAKE OUT LOANS.
DON'T BORROW ANYTHING FROM ANYONE,
ANYTIME, ANYWHERE.


When you DO, you are taking THEIR money,
time, and resources, and unless it is a gift,
they will expect to be paid back usually
WITH INTEREST.


If you DON'T pay them back
YOU ARE A THIEF, AND A ROBBER,
no better than the ghetto thug
who busts out a plate glass
window and robs a store.







GLP