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The dad took him to the police - how is this a cover up?
 Quoting: Ontheverge


The dad took him to a family friend after ONE year had past. That family friend police officer is now serving a 56 year jail term for child porn. Good ol' boys system--NOTHING was done.The first thing his dad did was talk to the elders of the church who are now in the mist of their own sex offences. Josh did NOT receive any type of counselling but sent to a family friend to do 3 months of labor working on building a new house. The girls who were the victims received NO counselling of any kind.

Those girls don't have a choice of leaving the home. Even Jana is being abused and forced against her will to stay. She doesn't have the resources or any help to get out. This family needs to be investigated by social services because having a clean home doesn't make a good parent. Especially if your daughters have been sexually molested and the parents do NOTHING to help them with this life long pain.
 Quoting: Bigteeth


She is a grown up and if she is so tormented, than she can leave at any time, there is social services that will help her find shelter and a job.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68945847


These poor people are the products of indoctrination - most have no education oustide the home and know nothing beyond what they've been told.

Your assertion is similar to saying that the FLDS people in Utah in their little insular communities can just up and leave when they want. They know nothing different. THey're convinced the world outside their gates will cause them to burn in hell.

This kind of shit is the direct result of allowing kids to be brainwashed with fairy tales of sky daddies and pits of hell from the cradle.
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Oprah show contacted local authorities in 2006 after an anonymous tip before an interview with them was to air which led to the police reports that will now be destroyed.

Lots of covering up and willful ignorance by many in power since then.
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Maybe this is the "disclosure" we really need. Instead of being concerned with beings from space, we need to look closer to home and clean up our own mess..and disclose the truth about what is being done to children so it will STOP.
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"From Josh:
Twelve years ago, as a young teenager I acted inexcusably for which I am extremely sorry and deeply regret. I hurt others, including my family and close friends. I confessed this to my parents who took several steps to help me address the situation. We spoke with the authorities where I confessed my wrongdoing and my parents arranged for me and those affected by my actions to receive counseling. I understood that if I continued down this wrong road that I would end up ruining my life. I sought forgiveness from those I had wronged and asked Christ to forgive me and come into my life. I would do anything to go back to those teen years and take different actions. In my life today, I am so very thankful for God’s grace, mercy and redemption."
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There has got to be much more to this story. They will hide it because 20 kids are expensive and if the show gets canceled they might have to go to work. The father won't talk to protect the income from the show. The victims won't talk...yet. the mother won't talk because she is going to protect the money and deny that anything wrong is going on.
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Twelve years ago, as a young teenager I acted inexcusably for which I am extremely sorry and deeply regret. I hurt others, including my family and close friends. I confessed this to my parents who took several steps to help me address the situation. We spoke with the authorities where I confessed my wrongdoing and my parents arranged for me and those affected by my actions to receive counseling. I understood that if I continued down this wrong road that I would end up ruining my life. I sought forgiveness from those I had wronged and asked Christ to forgive me and come into my life. I would do anything to go back to those teen years and take different actions. In my life today, I am so very thankful for God’s grace, mercy and redemption."
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So what?

None of these belated public simperings (after the statues of limitations expired, mind you) change a goddamn thing.

His fucking counselor (a thumper witch doctor) has been exposed as being a sexual abuser himself.

Josh put himself into a position of trust in his church and community, he has taken it upon himself to identify himself as a portrayer of all things good. He makes his money off of his squeaky clean image.

He's a fraud AND a child molester.

He apologized. So the fuck what? Most convicted killers/rapists apologize in front of the judge, that doesn't mitigate their legal sentence or wipe their slate clean.

"In fact, for over a year Jim Bob and Michelle knew about Josh’s crimes but did not go to police. Instead, they went to the church elders who helped get Josh out of town.

According to the police report obtained by inTouch, back in 2002, Josh was first caught fondling a girl’s breasts while she slept.

“James [Jim Bob] said that they disciplined [redacted, Josh] after this incident,” according to the report, but it was never reported to the police.

Then, in 2003 “there was another incident” this time with a girl claiming he touched her breasts and her genitals
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[link to latest.com]

The cop they took him to EVENTUALLY was a family friend and never filed charges, just 'sternly talked to' the little child molester.

There are images of the police report at the link above.

He was a predator for over a year and his family hid him out, didn't go to cops and when they finally DID go to cops, they went to a friend so he would face no real consequences and shit could be kept hush-hush.

They enabled him, and continue to enable him through their excuses.

He had no real remorse, remorse would have been expecting and accepting some REAL consequences for molesting multiple girls.

He didn't even address this publicly til the statute of limitations expired.

Sounds like a real stand-up dude ready to accept responsibility for being a chomo.

He's just another pervert hiding behind jebus.

He should have had his dick cut off before he could have kids of his own and threaten their well-being with his psychological issues.

There is no treatment or recovery for a child molester, and one who pretends to be so devout and pious is wallowing in so much denial no one will ever get through to them. This sick fuck thinks he's been forgiven by jebus for his shit and that simply repenting is enough atonement for this kind of action. He's the most dangerous predator of all, he has no idea of consequence.
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There has got to be much more to this story. They will hide it because 20 kids are expensive and if the show gets canceled they might have to go to work. The father won't talk to protect the income from the show. The victims won't talk...yet. the mother won't talk because she is going to protect the money and deny that anything wrong is going on.
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This.

TLC pulled the show.

I kind of hope there's some kind of fraud clause in their contract and the network is able to sue them for some of the money they've paid out based on fraudulent claims and misrepresentation.
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You people are ridiculous! The same people who are on here all day long bitching about the government and how much control they have over our lives are now sitting here saying they should go into this home and take away 20 children?!

The boy was 13 or 14 years old at the time, a horny teenager going through puberty! What he did was not okay, and he admitted it! This family homeschools all of their children, doesn't watch tv, and believes in God, family and FREEDOM! So he got curious and horny and he touched his sisters while they were asleep, and admitted it and apologized and prayed for forgiveness and then he didn't do it anymore!! You expect the parents who've protected their kids from everything else in the world are going to bring their son to the damn police department to be investigated over something that would likely drive social services into their home right around the same time fucking Warren Jeffs was arrested??! No. They handled it within their own family, none of us were there, none of us know how the shit was handled behind closed doors! The Duggar's are being attacked and is it REALLY that hard to see WHY?!
#forgiven.
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The dad took him to the police - how is this a cover up?
 Quoting: Ontheverge


Because it's never been disclosed to the people who pay their bills by watching their (now pulled) show.
...
 Quoting: Teller of Truths


So this guy should investigated to the nth degree because he didn't tell all to you on a TV show.

You are a piece of work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31796913


The dad took him to a pedo cop friend who didn't even file a report and is now in prison for child porn.

Jim Bob is friends with people into child pornography.

It took an anonymous tip to Oprah in 2006 for any kind of investigation into the matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14992014


So presumably the PD has reopened the investigation, if they believe it's warranted.

I am very loath to try to "cure" a whole family, community, police department ... yeah let's have the government goons step in and tell everyone how to run their lives.

Obama would love that. Once you let him in, he's in charge. The idea of limited and local government is there are places the "authorities" cannot step in.
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You people are ridiculous! The same people who are on here all day long bitching about the government and how much control they have over our lives are now sitting here saying they should go into this home and take away 20 children?!

The boy was 13 or 14 years old at the time, a horny teenager going through puberty! What he did was not okay, and he admitted it! This family homeschools all of their children, doesn't watch tv, and believes in God, family and FREEDOM! So he got curious and horny and he touched his sisters while they were asleep, and admitted it and apologized and prayed for forgiveness and then he didn't do it anymore!! You expect the parents who've protected their kids from everything else in the world are going to bring their son to the damn police department to be investigated over something that would likely drive social services into their home right around the same time fucking Warren Jeffs was arrested??! No. They handled it within their own family, none of us were there, none of us know how the shit was handled behind closed doors! The Duggar's are being attacked and is it REALLY that hard to see WHY?!
 Quoting: #forgiven.


Is that what happened? No wonder nobody else really described it.

Stuff like this happens. It happens more when you have more kids.
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Maybe this is the "disclosure" we really need. Instead of being concerned with beings from space, we need to look closer to home and clean up our own mess..and disclose the truth about what is being done to children so it will STOP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68246819


In fact it takes a village to raise a child, and every home should have surveillance cameras and microphones in every room being monitored so that nothing bad ever happens in any home -- as judged after the fact by some other people of no particular competence.
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4th degree? As a teen? That could be a touch.
Nothing to see here folks. If it was first or second degree, then it would be a bit more concerning. Geez.
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He was a curious teenage kid... Who wasn't?

I say move onto why Bill Clinton used to fly to the Bahamas to be with teenage girls. Why didn't that go on tv?

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Link to 4th degree sexual assault above.


I think Josh's assault on his sisters is just the tip of the iceberg. Jana, the oldest daughter looks and acts like an abused person, prisoned against her will in that home. Her only chance of escape is to marry a man of Jim Bob's choice (her dad). She could be sexually traumatized and unable to be with any man. Why is the girls room Jim Bob's favorite room? Like father, like son? The parents have shown that their judgment is very poor when it comes to family sexual abuse so should they be allowed to raise all these kids with their poor decisions. Felony 4th degree sexual assault should have been immediately reported to "proper" authorities" and not church elders that were involved in their own sex deviant "Quiver full" behaviors. All the older girls need counseling and Jana and Jinger or more need to be removed from that home while a complete investigation is done. Papa Duggar scares me and his wife Michelle is too brainwashed and maybe frightened to speak up
about the Duggar's house of Horrors.
 Quoting: Bigteeth


Josh was almost certainly molested as a child, the whole family should be investigated.

And also, their political ties. Because they are tied politically to every single GOP presidential candidate. You can't tell me those political ties haven't helped keep their child rapists protected.
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You people are ridiculous! The same people who are on here all day long bitching about the government and how much control they have over our lives are now sitting here saying they should go into this home and take away 20 children?!

The boy was 13 or 14 years old at the time, a horny teenager going through puberty! What he did was not okay, and he admitted it! This family homeschools all of their children, doesn't watch tv, and believes in God, family and FREEDOM! So he got curious and horny and he touched his sisters while they were asleep, and admitted it and apologized and prayed for forgiveness and then he didn't do it anymore!! You expect the parents who've protected their kids from everything else in the world are going to bring their son to the damn police department to be investigated over something that would likely drive social services into their home right around the same time fucking Warren Jeffs was arrested??! No. They handled it within their own family, none of us were there, none of us know how the shit was handled behind closed doors! The Duggar's are being attacked and is it REALLY that hard to see WHY?!
 Quoting: #forgiven.


Are you fucking kidding me?

On top of all this, their homeschool curriculum included victim blaming for molestation!

These people are unfit to have children, obviously, they allow a rapist to exist in their family unpunished (and who knows what else), and then blame the GIRLS for his actions.
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He was a curious teenage kid... Who wasn't?

I say move onto why Bill Clinton used to fly to the Bahamas to be with teenage girls. Why didn't that go on tv?

coffee4
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So you molested 3 of your younger sisters and several others as a teenager?
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You people are ridiculous! The same people who are on here all day long bitching about the government and how much control they have over our lives are now sitting here saying they should go into this home and take away 20 children?!

The boy was 13 or 14 years old at the time, a horny teenager going through puberty! What he did was not okay, and he admitted it! This family homeschools all of their children, doesn't watch tv, and believes in God, family and FREEDOM! So he got curious and horny and he touched his sisters while they were asleep, and admitted it and apologized and prayed for forgiveness and then he didn't do it anymore!! You expect the parents who've protected their kids from everything else in the world are going to bring their son to the damn police department to be investigated over something that would likely drive social services into their home right around the same time fucking Warren Jeffs was arrested??! No. They handled it within their own family, none of us were there, none of us know how the shit was handled behind closed doors! The Duggar's are being attacked and is it REALLY that hard to see WHY?!
 Quoting: #forgiven.


Is that what happened? No wonder nobody else really described it.

Stuff like this happens. It happens more when you have more kids.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31796913


Exactly, thank you! People are blowing this so far out of proportion strictly because they're Christians it seems. These people are genuinely good, humble, God fearing people.. and it shows throughout every aspect of their lives. They've homeschooled all their children, taught them all to play instruments, teach them everything they need to know about being self-sufficient in life. I remember an episode where Jimbob taught all the older girls how to change a tire on a car, just so they're never left stranded on the road waiting on a man.. they built their house with their own hands from the ground up. They're an amazing family with tremendous faith and now they're being turned into evil monsters because of something so petty! On top of everything else, they're missionaries.. they travel the country helping people who have nothing. God will judge every one of us one day, and I'd bet my life that their entire family, including Joshua, all have a place in Heaven.

Obviously the Duggar's have gotten more popular this past year than ever before, and with elections around the corner any fool can see why they'd want to bring them down.. they're running around with anti-abortion t-shirts, campaigning against LGBT, promoting Mike Huckabee and teaching people about God.. and it isn't just one or two of them, it's ALL of them, plus a few extra.. 30 people, with the Lord on their side and a respectable influence to the public... nah, they're shutting them down. They've known about this since 2006 and sat on it until just the right time! Christians are being attacked from every angle these days, they waited to release this on purpose!
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Because it's never been disclosed to the people who pay their bills by watching their (now pulled) show.
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 Quoting: Teller of Truths


So this guy should investigated to the nth degree because he didn't tell all to you on a TV show.

You are a piece of work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31796913


The dad took him to a pedo cop friend who didn't even file a report and is now in prison for child porn.

Jim Bob is friends with people into child pornography.

It took an anonymous tip to Oprah in 2006 for any kind of investigation into the matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14992014


So presumably the PD has reopened the investigation, if they believe it's warranted.

I am very loath to try to "cure" a whole family, community, police department ... yeah let's have the government goons step in and tell everyone how to run their lives.

Obama would love that. Once you let him in, he's in charge. The idea of limited and local government is there are places the "authorities" cannot step in.
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No, you are right, it is better to let child rapists walk free than have the govt do their job.
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Thread: Duggars May be back - without Josh. All about the love of money;root of all evil
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Excellent post OP. We haven't heard the last of this story. I believe it will get worse, and it will leak out a little at a time. You're right, the oldest daughter does act like a prisoner in that home. There's no telling what kind of awful things have happened there, they are like their own cult.
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So one of the brothers molests his sister and this is the parents fault how? and why should they be punished?
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Because the covered it up, hid it from the public, and then allowed him to continue to molest their children.

Also, it's very likely that one of the parents molested, as well.
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You people are ridiculous! The same people who are on here all day long bitching about the government and how much control they have over our lives are now sitting here saying they should go into this home and take away 20 children?!

The boy was 13 or 14 years old at the time, a horny teenager going through puberty! What he did was not okay, and he admitted it! This family homeschools all of their children, doesn't watch tv, and believes in God, family and FREEDOM! So he got curious and horny and he touched his sisters while they were asleep, and admitted it and apologized and prayed for forgiveness and then he didn't do it anymore!! You expect the parents who've protected their kids from everything else in the world are going to bring their son to the damn police department to be investigated over something that would likely drive social services into their home right around the same time fucking Warren Jeffs was arrested??! No. They handled it within their own family, none of us were there, none of us know how the shit was handled behind closed doors! The Duggar's are being attacked and is it REALLY that hard to see WHY?!
 Quoting: #forgiven.


Are you fucking kidding me?

On top of all this, their homeschool curriculum included victim blaming for molestation!

These people are unfit to have children, obviously, they allow a rapist to exist in their family unpunished (and who knows what else), and then blame the GIRLS for his actions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68885272


How in the hell do YOU know what their homeschool curriculum consisted of?!

He's a "rapist" now?! Are you dense?! Who in the hell said they blamed the girls?!?! He touched some boobs a few times! He's supposed to go to jail for that?!?!

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with a damn shill.
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He was a curious teenage kid... Who wasn't?

I say move onto why Bill Clinton used to fly to the Bahamas to be with teenage girls. Why didn't that go on tv?

coffee4
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So you molested 3 of your younger sisters and several others as a teenager?
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This is what I'm saying.

This was a 14-15 year old teenager molesting school girls over the period of at LEAST one year while his parents covered for him and shuffled him around and pretended he was being counseled for his perversions while sending him to hide with family friends.

When he DID get turned in to the cops (so clearly the parents recognized his repeated pattern of behavior as something more than mere childhood curiosity) he was turned in to a family friend so he would face no real consequences.

Then the family HID this information to collect money from their thumper image via a TV show until the statue of limitations ran out - which means they KNEW he'd committed crimes, not simply harmless childhood indiscretions.

I never ran with thumpers, maybe that's why I personally never knew someone who was fucked around with by their own siblings, but it is the epitome of disgusting behavior - right next to being diddled by daddy.

The family hid this - if it's so normal and okay, why hide it? Why not just say 'Oh, our oldest boy was just a sexually curious teenager who used our elementary aged daughters as sex playthings because we let him get away with it.'

They didn't say those things because what he did was wrong and they fucking KNEW it was wrong.
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These people are genuinely good, humble, God fearing people..
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Good people don't protect child rapists.
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You people are ridiculous! The same people who are on here all day long bitching about the government and how much control they have over our lives are now sitting here saying they should go into this home and take away 20 children?!

The boy was 13 or 14 years old at the time, a horny teenager going through puberty! What he did was not okay, and he admitted it! This family homeschools all of their children, doesn't watch tv, and believes in God, family and FREEDOM! So he got curious and horny and he touched his sisters while they were asleep, and admitted it and apologized and prayed for forgiveness and then he didn't do it anymore!! You expect the parents who've protected their kids from everything else in the world are going to bring their son to the damn police department to be investigated over something that would likely drive social services into their home right around the same time fucking Warren Jeffs was arrested??! No. They handled it within their own family, none of us were there, none of us know how the shit was handled behind closed doors! The Duggar's are being attacked and is it REALLY that hard to see WHY?!
 Quoting: #forgiven.


Are you fucking kidding me?

On top of all this, their homeschool curriculum included victim blaming for molestation!

These people are unfit to have children, obviously, they allow a rapist to exist in their family unpunished (and who knows what else), and then blame the GIRLS for his actions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68885272


How in the hell do YOU know what their homeschool curriculum consisted of?!

He's a "rapist" now?! Are you dense?! Who in the hell said they blamed the girls?!?! He touched some boobs a few times! He's supposed to go to jail for that?!?!

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with a damn shill.
 Quoting: #forgiven.


Boobs and vagina.

Doesn't make him a rapist unless he penetrated.

But it DOES make him a child molester who sexually assaulted 5 little kids that we know of over a period of at least a year while his parents enabled him.
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So one of the brothers molests his sister and this is the parents fault how? and why should they be punished?
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Because the covered it up, hid it from the public, and then allowed him to continue to molest their children.

Also, it's very likely that one of the parents molested, as well.
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clappa

Maybe this is why you don't have a dozen or more kids - because you can't effectively parent that many.

Those sick fuckers let him repeatedly molest kids for over a year before taking action, then hid their action and let him reside in the same home as his victims.

Fucking sick bastards, the whole lot of them.
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[link to www.patheos.com]



Per the Quiverfull Movement:

"Winning souls is more important than sexual abuse"


Link has countless articles on sexual abuse in this cult. Yes, the victims in the Duggar house should be removed for counselling and if they chose to return back to that home let it be their choice and not told they will burn in hell for reveling truths. Protect the little girls there that may be abused in the future or even now. Dig deep into all the sexual abuse that goes on and see why I believe that Josh himself was molested. I like the Duggar kids and feel they need and are entitled to protection.
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Re: Should all the Duggar Kids/Young Adults be Removed from their Home
You people are ridiculous! The same people who are on here all day long bitching about the government and how much control they have over our lives are now sitting here saying they should go into this home and take away 20 children?!

The boy was 13 or 14 years old at the time, a horny teenager going through puberty! What he did was not okay, and he admitted it! This family homeschools all of their children, doesn't watch tv, and believes in God, family and FREEDOM! So he got curious and horny and he touched his sisters while they were asleep, and admitted it and apologized and prayed for forgiveness and then he didn't do it anymore!! You expect the parents who've protected their kids from everything else in the world are going to bring their son to the damn police department to be investigated over something that would likely drive social services into their home right around the same time fucking Warren Jeffs was arrested??! No. They handled it within their own family, none of us were there, none of us know how the shit was handled behind closed doors! The Duggar's are being attacked and is it REALLY that hard to see WHY?!
 Quoting: #forgiven.


Are you fucking kidding me?

On top of all this, their homeschool curriculum included victim blaming for molestation!

These people are unfit to have children, obviously, they allow a rapist to exist in their family unpunished (and who knows what else), and then blame the GIRLS for his actions.
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How in the hell do YOU know what their homeschool curriculum consisted of?!

He's a "rapist" now?! Are you dense?! Who in the hell said they blamed the girls?!?! He touched some boobs a few times! He's supposed to go to jail for that?!?!

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with a damn shill.
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Because it has been released to the press. Look at it yourself, questions in their workbooks included:

"Why did God let this happen?"
A. because you have evil friends
B. lack of faith
C. disobedience
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05/23/2015 12:30 PM
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You people are ridiculous! The same people who are on here all day long bitching about the government and how much control they have over our lives are now sitting here saying they should go into this home and take away 20 children?!

The boy was 13 or 14 years old at the time, a horny teenager going through puberty! What he did was not okay, and he admitted it! This family homeschools all of their children, doesn't watch tv, and believes in God, family and FREEDOM! So he got curious and horny and he touched his sisters while they were asleep, and admitted it and apologized and prayed for forgiveness and then he didn't do it anymore!! You expect the parents who've protected their kids from everything else in the world are going to bring their son to the damn police department to be investigated over something that would likely drive social services into their home right around the same time fucking Warren Jeffs was arrested??! No. They handled it within their own family, none of us were there, none of us know how the shit was handled behind closed doors! The Duggar's are being attacked and is it REALLY that hard to see WHY?!
 Quoting: #forgiven.


Are you fucking kidding me?

On top of all this, their homeschool curriculum included victim blaming for molestation!

These people are unfit to have children, obviously, they allow a rapist to exist in their family unpunished (and who knows what else), and then blame the GIRLS for his actions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68885272


How in the hell do YOU know what their homeschool curriculum consisted of?!

He's a "rapist" now?! Are you dense?! Who in the hell said they blamed the girls?!?! He touched some boobs a few times! He's supposed to go to jail for that?!?!

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with a damn shill.
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Boobs and vagina.

Doesn't make him a rapist unless he penetrated.

But it DOES make him a child molester who sexually assaulted 5 little kids that we know of over a period of at least a year while his parents enabled him.
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We don't actually know the extent of his actions and crimes because they have been covered up for years.
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05/23/2015 12:30 PM
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So one of the brothers molests his sister and this is the parents fault how? and why should they be punished?
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Because the covered it up, hid it from the public, and then allowed him to continue to molest their children.

Also, it's very likely that one of the parents molested, as well.
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So you wanted them to announce this on television??? Who says they covered it up?? How do you know? How do you know he continued to molest their children? Where the hell are you getting your information from? If ANYONE covered it up, it was the damn media! THEY are the ones who record and edit everything, THEY decide what is aired and what isn't aired! Oprah covered it up first! Who's to say that if she hadn't questioned them about it the second she found out that they would've lied about it?? We DONT know that! They may have very well been completely honest about everything! No, they sat on this information and fucking waited until the time was right to release it!
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