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User ID: 68864377 United States 05/23/2015 08:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, I think the authorities should look very closely into what's going on at Josh Duggar's home with his small children. Clearly there was a concerted effort to keep this information under wraps, which is a form of psychological abuse in and of itself. Tell the victims to shhh while forcing them to live with their abuser. As I said in a previous post in another thread, sexual predators are often created through being abused themselves. Clearly there is no air of openness in that home where anyone would feel comfortable with speaking out - it's pretty funny this story didn't break until the statute of limitations had run out. Seems pretty contrived to me and reeks of a horrible level of patriarchal control. This is what happens in households where dad's word is unquestioned law. Kids need to know they are safe to seek help when the abuse is coming from within the home - where it most often does. |
Bigteeth
(OP) User ID: 50486882 United States 05/23/2015 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That show puts on a clinic for "how NOT to raise your kids"! This shows some of the outcomes. To try and live in fantasyland and act like those teenage hormones are nothing and you can do Nothing...leads to perverts and molestation. It's not Josh's fault at all. It's 100 percent the parents fault. The fact they dusted it under the rug and got a police report put in the shred-it bin speaks volumes. I feel bad for those kids. I wonder how many will end up in divorce. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62967425 Nice post on this subject . I wonder what kind of lives these daughters who have been reportedly been molested by their OLDER brother will lead. I bet Janna the oldest penned the note & put in a book & gave it to a friend to be released. Especially since it is so obvious the parents of this family would readily and most likely monitor all communications made by their children. I bet you a dime to a dollar he abused her first- no wonder she hasn't married. I think you're right and I would like to see Jana and Jinger be allowed to get some help along with all the other kids. However, I do believe that would open a 1000 cans of worms starting with papa Jim Bob. " Sometimes the questions are complicated and the answers are simple. " - Dr. Seuss Spelling Nazi-- Kindly F*** Off |
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Bigteeth
(OP) User ID: 50486882 United States 05/23/2015 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Patheos Labs This is from women being brainwashed into thinking the man is in charge and it's okay to rape the children. NLQ Support Group!! So I Was Spiritually Abused, What Next? Spiritual Abuse Survivor Blogs Network NLQ Question of the Week: Why Do Quiverfull Women Pick Husband Over Children? May 21, 2015 by Suzanne Calulu 14 Comments QuestionoftheweekThis is a new series we’re going to start running on Thursdays. Examining some of the questions involving long held Quiverfull theology and life. Today’s question comes directly out of the recent case in Texas of a Quiverfull by adoption father who admitted to raping his daughters and is now going to jail for 37 years. Even though he’s admitting to harming their daughters with years of physical sexual abuse this man, Travis Yates, has his wife standing by him like he did nothing wrong " Sometimes the questions are complicated and the answers are simple. " - Dr. Seuss Spelling Nazi-- Kindly F*** Off |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33040000 United States 05/23/2015 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I call b.s. The familiy is not taking the illuminati oath so they are being taking down..... Quoting: seer It is odd. And Oprah is supposedly behind it. It's been a busy work week so I haven't caught much news except here this morning so not really sure what's going on. As far as teen hormones and sexuality, I've never seen the show and don't know what or how they might discuss these things with their children. |
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User ID: 21268242 United States 05/23/2015 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to acasa.us] Quoting: Bigteeth Link to 4th degree sexual assault above. I think Josh's assault on his sisters is just the tip of the iceberg. Jana, the oldest daughter looks and acts like an abused person, prisoned against her will in that home. Her only chance of escape is to marry a man of Jim Bob's choice (her dad). She could be sexually traumatized and unable to be with any man. Why is the girls room Jim Bob's favorite room? Like father, like son? The parents have shown that their judgment is very poor when it comes to family sexual abuse so should they be allowed to raise all these kids with their poor decisions. Felony 4th degree sexual assault should have been immediately reported to "proper" authorities" and not church elders that were involved in their own sex deviant "Quiver full" behaviors. All the older girls need counseling and Jana and Jinger or more need to be removed from that home while a complete investigation is done. Papa Duggar scares me and his wife Michelle is too brainwashed and maybe frightened to speak up about the Duggar's house of Horrors. Your imagined offenses are irrelevant. You basically hate Christians and only seek to inflict as much damage into this situation as possible. Where were you to protect Lena Dunham's 1 year old sister and the learned sexual abuse perpetrated upon her? Why aren't you the great defender of sexual molestation in the Dunham family? No call to take away their kids or publicly shame THEM because you agree with their political views. |
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User ID: 21268242 United States 05/23/2015 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I call b.s. The familiy is not taking the illuminati oath so they are being taking down..... Quoting: seer It is odd. And Oprah is supposedly behind it. It's been a busy work week so I haven't caught much news except here this morning so not really sure what's going on. As far as teen hormones and sexuality, I've never seen the show and don't know what or how they might discuss these things with their children. Oprah? Interesting. Do you know how she is involved? |
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User ID: 68864377 United States 05/23/2015 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting the support for families who home school, don't vaccinate or let their kids live in squalor. Quoting: Ontheverge But the Duggars! Forcibly remove ADULTS?? are you serious? So as long as you vaccinate and have a clean house you can molest kids all you want? Of course adults shouldn't be removed, but they should be interviewed extensively. If it's discovered they are covering up child molestation, they should be charged next to the molester(s). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65224427 United States 05/23/2015 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Get a life and get over it. Jana is nearly 25. If she wanted to leave tomorrow.... she could. How many adult kids who are college graduates live in their parents house? You? You're likely in the basement wearing underwear playing world of tanks or something - wasting time reading GLP. Are they making an economic choice to save money? Or, "gosh, I can stay at mom and dads and help out with the house while I look for a job" bs on the lot of you fudge packers are attacking this family today for admitted events that took place over 12 years ago. Why? because, this family teaches that marriage is not defined by the State. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33040000 United States 05/23/2015 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I call b.s. The familiy is not taking the illuminati oath so they are being taking down..... Quoting: seer It is odd. And Oprah is supposedly behind it. It's been a busy work week so I haven't caught much news except here this morning so not really sure what's going on. As far as teen hormones and sexuality, I've never seen the show and don't know what or how they might discuss these things with their children. Oprah? Interesting. Do you know how she is involved? From what I've read this morning, she was set to do a story on them but then somehow this all came out. As I said I haven't kept up with the news much this week as it's been a long busy w,eek at work. |
Bigteeth
(OP) User ID: 50486882 United States 05/23/2015 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obey your husband or else.................. Words from the No Longer Quivering Blog Home Spirituality Channel No Longer Quivering On Being Silenced May 23, 2015 by Suzanne Calulu 0 Comments samantha by Samantha Fields cross posted from her blog Defeating The Dragons I have a lot of experience with being told to shut up. I’m used to being ignored, dismissed, thrown out. Being an outspoken, opinionated girl and then young woman in Christian fundamentalism leaves one feeling stifled, and it’s a sensation I hate. The one thing that will guarantee that I get so pissed at you that I never speak to you again is to dismiss me when I’m talking about something that I believe matters. That reaction comes from a lifetime of experience in a cult, watching the people I cared about being told to shut up and color any time they had a problem with something. One of the lessons that I’ve learned extreme " Sometimes the questions are complicated and the answers are simple. " - Dr. Seuss Spelling Nazi-- Kindly F*** Off |
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User ID: 68864377 United States 05/23/2015 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because it's never been disclosed to the people who pay their bills by watching their (now pulled) show. It was not mentioned by anyone, ever, until the statute of limitations ran out. Dad knew he was a minor, that the records would be sealed, so he had no worry that the information would go public at the time. He also knew that EVENTUALLY people WOULD find out, so he'd better cover his bases. He didn't even take him for real treatment, he sent him to a child molesting witch doctor. He raised those girls in the same household as little fucking pervert. He certainly never turned it into a teachable moment, a way to empower other victims. He kept it as quiet as he could to protect that $$. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62421412 United States 05/23/2015 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is such a horrible situation. I feel bad for his wife Ana who is expecting baby #4 in a month. What will she do now? I feel bad for all the kids. I really hope that this is not just the tip of the iceberg and mote will be found out. What about the girl the Josiah just started courting. I'm sure she will bail. She thought she was marrying into a money windfall (she seems very fake) |
Bigteeth
(OP) User ID: 50486882 United States 05/23/2015 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The dad took him to a family friend after ONE year had past. That family friend police officer is now serving a 56 year jail term for child porn. Good ol' boys system--NOTHING was done.The first thing his dad did was talk to the elders of the church who are now in the mist of their own sex offences. Josh did NOT receive any type of counselling but sent to a family friend to do 3 months of labor working on building a new house. The girls who were the victims received NO counselling of any kind. Those girls don't have a choice of leaving the home. Even Jana is being abused and forced against her will to stay. She doesn't have the resources or any help to get out. This family needs to be investigated by social services because having a clean home doesn't make a good parent. Especially if your daughters have been sexually molested and the parents do NOTHING to help them with this life long pain. " Sometimes the questions are complicated and the answers are simple. " - Dr. Seuss Spelling Nazi-- Kindly F*** Off |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31796913 United States 05/23/2015 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think a very in-depth investigation should go on and if anything substantive is discovered they should be out. Especially the kids that fit his victim profile. Quoting: Teller of Truths Also, I think the authorities should look very closely into what's going on at Josh Duggar's home with his small children. Clearly there was a concerted effort to keep this information under wraps, which is a form of psychological abuse in and of itself. Tell the victims to shhh while forcing them to live with their abuser. As I said in a previous post in another thread, sexual predators are often created through being abused themselves. Clearly there is no air of openness in that home where anyone would feel comfortable with speaking out - it's pretty funny this story didn't break until the statute of limitations had run out. Seems pretty contrived to me and reeks of a horrible level of patriarchal control. This is what happens in households where dad's word is unquestioned law. Kids need to know they are safe to seek help when the abuse is coming from within the home - where it most often does. Let's have an "very in-depth investigation" about everything that happens in YOUR house. Or maybe you haven't even gotten that far. I admit I have not been following this "story", if it is indeed a story. What crime did he commit, or what suspicion is there that rises to the level of probable cause? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31796913 United States 05/23/2015 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The dad took him to a family friend after ONE year had past. That family friend police officer is now serving a 56 year jail term for child porn. Good ol' boys system--NOTHING was done.The first thing his dad did was talk to the elders of the church who are now in the mist of their own sex offences. Josh did NOT receive any type of counselling but sent to a family friend to do 3 months of labor working on building a new house. The girls who were the victims received NO counselling of any kind. Those girls don't have a choice of leaving the home. Even Jana is being abused and forced against her will to stay. She doesn't have the resources or any help to get out. This family needs to be investigated by social services because having a clean home doesn't make a good parent. Especially if your daughters have been sexually molested and the parents do NOTHING to help them with this life long pain. Should social services investigate whenever there's a suspicion that a home isn't good? If we investigated every home where there was a problem, every family would be under investigation. You probably don't see anything wrong with that. |
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User ID: 68864377 United States 05/23/2015 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think a very in-depth investigation should go on and if anything substantive is discovered they should be out. Especially the kids that fit his victim profile. Quoting: Teller of Truths Also, I think the authorities should look very closely into what's going on at Josh Duggar's home with his small children. Clearly there was a concerted effort to keep this information under wraps, which is a form of psychological abuse in and of itself. Tell the victims to shhh while forcing them to live with their abuser. As I said in a previous post in another thread, sexual predators are often created through being abused themselves. Clearly there is no air of openness in that home where anyone would feel comfortable with speaking out - it's pretty funny this story didn't break until the statute of limitations had run out. Seems pretty contrived to me and reeks of a horrible level of patriarchal control. This is what happens in households where dad's word is unquestioned law. Kids need to know they are safe to seek help when the abuse is coming from within the home - where it most often does. Let's have an "very in-depth investigation" about everything that happens in YOUR house. Or maybe you haven't even gotten that far. I admit I have not been following this "story", if it is indeed a story. What crime did he commit, or what suspicion is there that rises to the level of probable cause? Bring it on. And the motherfucker ADMITTED to molesting four of his younger sisters and one of their friends, you goddamn idiot. |
Teller of Truths
User ID: 68864377 United States 05/23/2015 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because it's never been disclosed to the people who pay their bills by watching their (now pulled) show. ... So this guy should investigated to the nth degree because he didn't tell all to you on a TV show. You are a piece of work. He should be investigated because he raised his daughters next to their admitted molester and kept smiles on all of their faces to make a buck. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14992014 United States 05/23/2015 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because it's never been disclosed to the people who pay their bills by watching their (now pulled) show. ... So this guy should investigated to the nth degree because he didn't tell all to you on a TV show. You are a piece of work. The dad took him to a pedo cop friend who didn't even file a report and is now in prison for child porn. Jim Bob is friends with people into child pornography. It took an anonymous tip to Oprah in 2006 for any kind of investigation into the matter. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68945847 United States 05/23/2015 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The dad took him to a family friend after ONE year had past. That family friend police officer is now serving a 56 year jail term for child porn. Good ol' boys system--NOTHING was done.The first thing his dad did was talk to the elders of the church who are now in the mist of their own sex offences. Josh did NOT receive any type of counselling but sent to a family friend to do 3 months of labor working on building a new house. The girls who were the victims received NO counselling of any kind. Those girls don't have a choice of leaving the home. Even Jana is being abused and forced against her will to stay. She doesn't have the resources or any help to get out. This family needs to be investigated by social services because having a clean home doesn't make a good parent. Especially if your daughters have been sexually molested and the parents do NOTHING to help them with this life long pain. She is a grown up and if she is so tormented, than she can leave at any time, there is social services that will help her find shelter and a job. |
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