HACKER MADE UNITED FLIGHT FLY SIDEWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69248785 United States 05/17/2015 07:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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User ID: 69212607 United States 05/17/2015 07:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Disturbing story. He pretty much convicted himself in statements to the FBI. Since he's a 'security consultant' I wonder if his motive is to ingratiate himself to the airlines or FAA as the top guru of computer security. Fear God and Dread Nought. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69246900 United States 05/17/2015 07:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Disturbing story. Quoting: CMcC He pretty much convicted himself in statements to the FBI. Since he's a 'security consultant' I wonder if his motive is to ingratiate himself to the airlines or FAA as the top guru of computer security. A big percentage of people convicted for any crime damn themselves by talking to law enforcement. Their words being the best evidence prosecutors have against them. Be SILENT! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5917739 United States 05/17/2015 07:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I call bull shiot on this....The IFE and the flight thrust computers are not connected. There is no way to hack into the trust management computers let alone fly and airplane sideways. Not without a very stiff cross wind anyway. Sorry I didn't type this right....What I meant to say is the data cables from the aircraft flight side to the IFE are only one way data cables and lack the ability to carry instructions back to the flight side. Just like there are two different types of data cables you can hook up to your computer, one which can carry data both ways and one that can only carry data one way. I think what he is saying is he increased the power to an engine on one side only and this caused the plane to yaw and continue at the same altitude and pitch, but with the nose yawed to the side, with the autopilot keeping the pitch level and altitude maintained. And doing that is not possible. The autothrottle system has a comparator between the two throttles. If they don't advance evenly, the comparator shuts the autothrottle system down completely - in case there is an error in its own system. It is not possible for the guy to have done this. He's full of shit - looking for fame in the hacker community. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5917739 United States 05/17/2015 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Disturbing story. Quoting: CMcC He pretty much convicted himself in statements to the FBI. Since he's a 'security consultant' I wonder if his motive is to ingratiate himself to the airlines or FAA as the top guru of computer security. A big percentage of people convicted for any crime damn themselves by talking to law enforcement. Their words being the best evidence prosecutors have against them. Be SILENT! He's admitting to a crime he did NOT commit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69218074 United States 05/17/2015 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From Wired article: He obtained physical access to the networks through the Seat Electronic Box, or SEB. These are installed two to a row, on each side of the aisle under passenger seats, on certain planes. After removing the cover to the SEB by “wiggling and Squeezing the box,” Roberts told agents he attached a Cat6 ethernet cable, with a modified connector, to the box and to his laptop and then used default IDs and passwords to gain access to the inflight entertainment system. Once on that network, he was able to gain access to other systems on the planes. Just don't let people next to you uncover the SEB and plug an ethernet cable into it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44860960 United States 05/17/2015 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44860960 Yanno I have a anti-hacker tech I want to develop so these sorts of events are history not daily events. So I looked around for investors. Mind you I do not have a prototype built as that costs way too much for average people these days. Everything was going ok until the one question was asked "Why has nobody else done this yet?" My answer was simple but investors can be so skeptical and so no funding. Until someone gets a grip and realizes the solution to this is not going to come from Intel, Microsoft, Apple or Google - this sort of thing will keep happening. Sad. Don't give up. Well I have tried reaching out since 2012... all want a prototype built at my expense before even considering it. There are two primary areas - the hardware side involves low-level modifications to the BIOS code, and the software side is easy with a few good programmers. The problem is it costs a minimum of 100k for the BIOS company to do the mods needed. During our discovery phase I had a conference call with a BIOS company and the engineer was ecstatic at what I wanted to do. Just wish it wasn't so hard to find the needle in the haystack to get this funded. Speaking of funding - forget the crowdfunding sites - they steal intellectual property right and left. And so it goes. I roll my eyes every time I see anything relating to hacking these days. See: Angel Investors Same thing: Want a prototype built first. Seed investors just don't cut it. Overall, to get to a working Beta version will take two phases: 1st is getting the hardware (BIOS mods) done. Figuring from start to finish 330k total. Time to complete? 5 months. Second phase requires several programmers and me striking a deal with an Anti-Virus company to show the Beta version works. Cost I estimate for second phase? Upwards of 3 million. Legal is not cheap nor are programmers who know their salt. Time to complete - six months. So yeah Angel investors usually only go up to 1-2 million max and they want results - right now! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44860960 United States 05/17/2015 08:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah - my anti-hacking tech would of allowed for Stuxnet to be detected too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44860960 Meh. Damn investors and their 'Why hasn't anyone done this before' BS. Idiots. Uh-huh I believe you. You sound like someone that has trouble turning a PC on. "Anti-Hacking Tech"... Pardon my watered down description investors need to digest what it is I want to do. Boneheads like need to insult anything to feel better about yourself. Maybe I should have said something more along the lines of 'A modified BIOS which allows -3 level layer observation of data as it moves across data paths. Along with dedicated storage for downloadable Anti-Virus binaries and any other desired software, this allows any firmware injected with back-door accessibility to be detected and thwarted" Investors are dumb when it comes to anything technical. If the investor I worked with stopped at 'Why has nobody done this before' then there is no hope. Only techs understand what I am saying - and I am not including a few tidbits here for obvious reason. Besides - idiots like you wouldn't get it anyway. Oops - time to go learn how to wipe your ass mate! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44860960 United States 05/17/2015 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, have you heard of Stuxnet. Problem with this advanced piece of malware is that it just so happened to get leaked on the Internet. Stuxnet is malware designed specifically to target Iran nuclear reactors and cause there fans to slow down or turn off while the GUI says they are going, so in effect to cause a meltdown. Now that stuxnet has been released, all someone technically would have to do is modify the source code and than they could target nuke reactors, power grids, etc. All this Patriot Act, and security up the butt since 9/11 and a hacker can alter a planes flight controls, really?? Yeah - my anti-hacking tech would of allowed for Stuxnet to be detected too. Meh. Damn investors and their 'Why hasn't anyone done this before' BS. Idiots. sounds like you asked the wrong 'investors' it's an INVENTION. by definition, 'no one has done this before' whoever said that sounds like a complete idiot Yeah I agree. Sadly I don't have the resources to go pound on their doors to make a presentation. Tried finding a decent 'tech' VC on and off since 2012. Not making a 'Powerpoint presentation' or typing it all up with step-by-step instructions - duh! And to think the VC I was talking with was a Seattle based Vietnam F4 pilot. Definitely want to keep this in with someone who has military background. And hey - if the Govt wants to whisk me away then so be it. All this illegal accessing of anything computerized has got to stop somewhere. Meh - just kind of venting here so I thank y'all for letting me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44860960 United States 05/17/2015 08:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sounds like you asked the wrong 'investors' Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28871451 it's an INVENTION. by definition, 'no one has done this before' whoever said that sounds like a complete idiot No. It sounds like he's a retard that is so retarded he believes he's a genius. If he truly was some bad ass code writer and/or hardware designer they would jump on the "invention" the reason they reject it with an excuse like "why has no one done this before" is because they feel sorry for him and how retarded he is and they are letting him down gently without crushing his dellusional dreams. That is always a possibility - not delusional just real. And if while working on the 5-year plan the BIOS engineer said the mods I want to do can be done, is that so delusional? Sure there other steps after that but like a puzzle each area is one piece at a time. You sound like someone who never got approval for anything as a kid. Mommy issues? You lack vision Watermellon. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69155483 United States 05/17/2015 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From Wired article: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69218074 He obtained physical access to the networks through the Seat Electronic Box, or SEB. These are installed two to a row, on each side of the aisle under passenger seats, on certain planes. After removing the cover to the SEB by “wiggling and Squeezing the box,” Roberts told agents he attached a Cat6 ethernet cable, with a modified connector, to the box and to his laptop and then used default IDs and passwords to gain access to the inflight entertainment system. Once on that network, he was able to gain access to other systems on the planes. Just don't let people next to you uncover the SEB and plug an ethernet cable into it. ...got a question/observation... Think about the physical requirements of doing this under-the-seat hardware juggling in today's jetliners...no knee room, and certainly little if any ability to go fiddling with things under your seat. I'm wondering about the ergonomic reality of this scenario. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69044394 United States 05/17/2015 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah. Israeli hackers on 9-11. I thought everybody knew this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59358867 Look at the belly of the plane that hit the WTC. It has the missile-shaped autopilot on the belly. Jews attacked America on 9-11. Look it up bro! I am sure they all took a democratic vote in Israel and passed a bill to attack America. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59358867 Thailand 05/17/2015 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah. Israeli hackers on 9-11. I thought everybody knew this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59358867 Look at the belly of the plane that hit the WTC. It has the missile-shaped autopilot on the belly. Jews attacked America on 9-11. Look it up bro! I am sure they all took a democratic vote in Israel and passed a bill to attack America. Their decisions are made at the supreme court and in the intel agencies. Why else were there Israeli's dancing after the attack, who admitted to the FBI they were there to "Film the Event?" Why did Larry Silverstein admit on camera he chose to "pull" WTC 7 in a controlled demolition? Why are Hank Greenburg's (of AIG) fingerprints all over the terrror attacks? Because the Jews attacked America on 9-11-2001. That's why. These are facts sheeple, wake up! The Jew is the genetic enemy of all mankind. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44860960 United States 05/17/2015 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah. Israeli hackers on 9-11. I thought everybody knew this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59358867 Look at the belly of the plane that hit the WTC. It has the missile-shaped autopilot on the belly. Jews attacked America on 9-11. Look it up bro! I am sure they all took a democratic vote in Israel and passed a bill to attack America. Their decisions are made at the supreme court and in the intel agencies. Why else were there Israeli's dancing after the attack, who admitted to the FBI they were there to "Film the Event?" Why did Larry Silverstein admit on camera he chose to "pull" WTC 7 in a controlled demolition? Why are Hank Greenburg's (of AIG) fingerprints all over the terrror attacks? Because the Jews attacked America on 9-11-2001. That's why. These are facts sheeple, wake up! The Jew is the genetic enemy of all mankind. Watermellon take note: this AC is an example of a delusional truther. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59358867 Thailand 05/17/2015 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah. Israeli hackers on 9-11. I thought everybody knew this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59358867 Look at the belly of the plane that hit the WTC. It has the missile-shaped autopilot on the belly. Jews attacked America on 9-11. Look it up bro! I am sure they all took a democratic vote in Israel and passed a bill to attack America. Their decisions are made at the supreme court and in the intel agencies. Why else were there Israeli's dancing after the attack, who admitted to the FBI they were there to "Film the Event?" Why did Larry Silverstein admit on camera he chose to "pull" WTC 7 in a controlled demolition? Why are Hank Greenburg's (of AIG) fingerprints all over the terrror attacks? Because the Jews attacked America on 9-11-2001. That's why. These are facts sheeple, wake up! The Jew is the genetic enemy of all mankind. Watermellon take note: this AC is an example of a delusional truther. You are a lying fucking Jew. You and your entire family need to be burned alive in the final solution. Just kidding, LOL. But you are totally full of shit. Fuck you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69155483 United States 05/17/2015 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69044394 I am sure they all took a democratic vote in Israel and passed a bill to attack America. Their decisions are made at the supreme court and in the intel agencies. Why else were there Israeli's dancing after the attack, who admitted to the FBI they were there to "Film the Event?" Why did Larry Silverstein admit on camera he chose to "pull" WTC 7 in a controlled demolition? Why are Hank Greenburg's (of AIG) fingerprints all over the terrror attacks? Because the Jews attacked America on 9-11-2001. That's why. These are facts sheeple, wake up! The Jew is the genetic enemy of all mankind. Watermellon take note: this AC is an example of a delusional truther. You are a lying fucking Jew. You and your entire family need to be burned alive in the final solution. Just kidding, LOL. But you are totally full of shit. Fuck you. Just kidding??? You're what's wrong with the world... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44860960 United States 05/17/2015 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From Wired article: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69218074 He obtained physical access to the networks through the Seat Electronic Box, or SEB. These are installed two to a row, on each side of the aisle under passenger seats, on certain planes. After removing the cover to the SEB by “wiggling and Squeezing the box,” Roberts told agents he attached a Cat6 ethernet cable, with a modified connector, to the box and to his laptop and then used default IDs and passwords to gain access to the inflight entertainment system. Once on that network, he was able to gain access to other systems on the planes. Just don't let people next to you uncover the SEB and plug an ethernet cable into it. ...got a question/observation... Think about the physical requirements of doing this under-the-seat hardware juggling in today's jetliners...no knee room, and certainly little if any ability to go fiddling with things under your seat. I'm wondering about the ergonomic reality of this scenario. What people refuse to understand.. just because the two networks were separate does not mean one could not infiltrate the other. It has been tested between two laptops that even audio undetectable to humans can transfer data. People have got to start thinking outside the box... Besides - if this guy was that good with code who is to say he did not plug the cable in and configure what each wire did? To normal people who do not think outside the box like Watermellon - this is not possible. Anything is possible if you put your mind to it. Must be a stupid 'fact-resistant' liberal that Watermellon. Always criticizing what he does not understand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44860960 United States 05/17/2015 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59358867 Their decisions are made at the supreme court and in the intel agencies. Why else were there Israeli's dancing after the attack, who admitted to the FBI they were there to "Film the Event?" Why did Larry Silverstein admit on camera he chose to "pull" WTC 7 in a controlled demolition? Why are Hank Greenburg's (of AIG) fingerprints all over the terrror attacks? Because the Jews attacked America on 9-11-2001. That's why. These are facts sheeple, wake up! The Jew is the genetic enemy of all mankind. Watermellon take note: this AC is an example of a delusional truther. You are a lying fucking Jew. You and your entire family need to be burned alive in the final solution. Just kidding, LOL. But you are totally full of shit. Fuck you. Just kidding??? You're what's wrong with the world... Agreed - the AC is a dirtbag piece of bacon-wrapped shit roasting over a flame desperate to spew his commands upon others who do not give a shit about his disgusting attitude. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59358867 Thailand 05/17/2015 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59358867 Their decisions are made at the supreme court and in the intel agencies. Why else were there Israeli's dancing after the attack, who admitted to the FBI they were there to "Film the Event?" Why did Larry Silverstein admit on camera he chose to "pull" WTC 7 in a controlled demolition? Why are Hank Greenburg's (of AIG) fingerprints all over the terrror attacks? Because the Jews attacked America on 9-11-2001. That's why. These are facts sheeple, wake up! The Jew is the genetic enemy of all mankind. Watermellon take note: this AC is an example of a delusional truther. You are a lying fucking Jew. You and your entire family need to be burned alive in the final solution. Just kidding, LOL. But you are totally full of shit. Fuck you. Just kidding??? You're what's wrong with the world... No, the Jews are what's wrong with the world. Dumbass. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44860960 United States 05/17/2015 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44860960 Watermellon take note: this AC is an example of a delusional truther. You are a lying fucking Jew. You and your entire family need to be burned alive in the final solution. Just kidding, LOL. But you are totally full of shit. Fuck you. Just kidding??? You're what's wrong with the world... No, the Jews are what's wrong with the world. Dumbass. Well double dumbass to you to! |
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User ID: 42458605 United States 05/17/2015 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So if this persona has the capabilities to do this, I guess it would not be that far out that the government could hijack the system and fly the plane into something like TWO GIANT BUILDINGS.... Just saying Question everything..... While still believing in the overall good of humanity! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44860960 United States 05/17/2015 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And too much of it will take an airliner's tail off - as what happened with the American crash shortly after 911. Called "slipping" or to "slip" sideways. This has a goal as an intention, more than likely to limit how much computer power one can carry on an plane. Excellent point! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44860960 United States 05/17/2015 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So if this persona has the capabilities to do this, I guess it would not be that far out that the government could hijack the system and fly the plane into something like TWO GIANT BUILDINGS.... Just saying Or..... hackers could have done it too. Possible? Absolutely yes. Did it? That's the burning question truthers will not stop trying to answer. |
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