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POLL: Creating a law with 1-year prison term for photographing in Yellowstone seems...
 ...Very heavy-handed and just another effort to chip away our freedoms!
 ...Well, seems prudent given that we don't want people photographing an eruption thread when it isn't verifiable.
 ...Shows they are very concerned about terrorism in Yellowstone Park.
 ...seems "over-the-top" when you consider millions visit the park every year!
 ...this is aimed directly at conspiracy theorists--first PROOF whistle-blowers will be jailed!
 ...reasonable considering there are millions of photos already taken and who needs MORE pics of Yellowstone?
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EDITED: 5-12-2015 1:35 a.m. EST
Minor re-write to avoid using "Yellowstone National
Park" as the target for censorship....It is a confusing
new "law" and the in's-and-out's were not completely
understood by the narrator of this video!
This new law is ANY environmental data gathering in the state of Wyoming including pictures WHILE IN THE ACT OF TRESSPASSING (NOT tourist pictures.) While this does
clarify it somewhat, the ambiguous nature of the wording
leaves much open to conjecture!


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eqeqeq
What was that sound! Was it a quake?
NO: That was just the Wyoming park rangers dumping
whistle-blower tourist's cameras into the hot springs!



I actually wondered how long it would be until we would see just out-and-out censorship on internet sharing of "heads-up"
information on various environmental topics that the gov feels are "vital to the national of state's security." (So far, this is only a Wyoming law ...but it is definitely "precedent-setting" and could end up spreading to more states (like the ones with fracking) and eventually make its way into a federal censorship law!


Well here we have it! You can now be imprisoned up to 1 year for
taking a photo of anything environmental issues (and ATTEMPT to share that data) in the state of Wyoming. The
narrator of the video claims this also extends to pictures of environmental "issues" (like explosive eruptions, maybe?) in Yellowstone National Park. This is HUGE! Here is a video reporting it. (This will hit the YellowstoneTards really hard! Being in Montana...I am one!) I'm waiting for them to take down the park cams next!


Here is a quote from one of the articles about this (thank you to the A.C. who posted the article):
Quote:
"...The new law is of breathtaking scope. It makes it a crime to “collect resource data” from any “open land,” meaning any land outside of a city or town, whether it’s federal, state, or privately owned.

The statute defines the word collect as any method to “preserve information in any form,” including taking a “photograph” so long as the person gathering that information intends to submit it to a federal or state agency. END QUOTE
In other words, if you discover an environmental disaster in Wyoming, even one that poses an imminent threat to public health, you’re obliged, according to this law, to keep it to yourself.
[link to www.slate.com]
IS THIS EVEN CONSTITUTIONAL?


WATCH IT making GLP smilies--and the MODS need to see this
as well--so that GLP members (or the Forum itself) doesn't
fall under this "net" they are now spreading for whistle-
blowers! Even if YOU don't actively speak out about some problem you have seen and photographed and you pass it along to someone who makes a campaign out of it...if it is traced back to YOUR camera, you could end up in prison for a year. A SCENARIO: One scenario might be that you post a glp thread w/photo about some "steam vent" in Yellowstone that has opened up--or you spot LAVA...or some pollution that you see in the park--and you PHOTOGRAPH IT.
Then the GLP thread ends up on Google (I've had several of my threads show up on a search with Google)...but someone else copies your photo for their own "personal campaign to give everyone a "heads-up"...IF that falls under this new law, you could be a party to being arrested if they can trace it back to you.

This is VERY BAD, guys!



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Sorry, narrator doesn't provide the statute/law info
which Wyoming has passed about this. I'm not sure that it
is just about e-coli--like the narrator explains--it is
probably much more likely to suppress info about the
possible eruption risks.

Wow...That's just really sad to see.



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Will not stop me.
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Prior thread with link to news article inside.

Thread: Wyoming making it a crime to yak about Yellowstone or other citizen scientist endeavors.
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Im sorry but I have a moral obligation to share anything that could result in loss of life.Plus what possible incentive do I have to follow laws set forth by criminals.
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e-Coli?
Maybe they should make defecation in public surface waters
a capitol offense punishable by death.

Illegal hispanics have contaminated it all with their shit,
cause they all carry guardia and will drop their pants and go
anywhere.
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Sorry, narrator doesn't provide the statute/law info
which Wyoming has passed about this. I'm not sure that it
is just about e-coli--like the narrator explains--it is
probably much more likely to suppress info about the
possible eruption risks.

1 minute of googling and I find....
This is Republican anti-science stuff

Wyoming Won’t Have You Going Around Taking Pictures Of Their Cow Sh*t Infested E. Coli Rivers
[link to wonkette.com]

Did Wyoming really just outlaw citizen science?
[link to www.southernfriedscience.com]

Basically every drop of surface water in Wyoming is teaming with e-coli bacteria and Wyoming doesn't want anyone to know.
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Jail for posting about environmental issues with yellowstone? A year? For a fucking photo? What is this, no salt for gandhi hour? I'm not a fucking lobbyist I'm not on a fucking mission, what's wrong with it other than legalities of dirt connected to earth, they got military bases on it or something?

GLP you coward. We can just rename it, then it will be legit.

That's not yellow stone, it's my backyard, a mountain with trees, next to a headline of something about yellowstone. They really can't tell the difference, it's a fucking mountain with snow on it. validation required.

Go take a photo of mount shasta or big bear, talk about environmental issues. Yes I will twist those nipples of law, I am a freedomist, we do freedom not censorship, I will skirt the boundaries of law that seems like it came from a politically oppressed country.
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Im sorry but I have a moral obligation to share anything that could result in loss of life.Plus what possible incentive do I have to follow laws set forth by criminals.
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Agreed

Besides, I don't live in that state.

What the hell they gonna do??

Extradite me ffs?
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Sorry...didn't see that thread. This thread has a video
and poll...so it is technically different. But thanks
for pointing that out! More important than "who gets credit"
for the story...is that this information gets out ASAP
since there will be lots of folks traveling to Yellowstone
National Park this year with their little cameras in tow!

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e-Coli?
Maybe they should make defecation in public surface waters
a capitol offense punishable by death.

Illegal hispanics have contaminated it all with their shit,
cause they all carry guardia and will drop their pants and go
anywhere.
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NO. Its not hispanics.
Its COWS and cowshit.

You really thought mexicans first?
Insert ugly insult here.
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It has NOTHING TO DO WITH YELLOWSTONE.
Yellowstone is FEDERAL land.
Wyoming cannot make laws that affect federal land.
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Maybe they are handing Yellowstone to the Chinese nationals
for a Free Trade Zone, and will allow the 2 million who tried
to get into Boise area, to go there.

Chinese pay a buttload to get toeholds on US soil, for future
occupation.
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if this is a state statute, something tells me this might go to the US Supreme Court


by the way, there was an oil spill in the Yellowstone River and benzene was detected in January 2015. so idk.
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e-Coli?
Maybe they should make defecation in public surface waters
a capitol offense punishable by death.

Illegal hispanics have contaminated it all with their shit,
cause they all carry guardia and will drop their pants and go
anywhere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69200306


NO. Its not hispanics.
Its COWS and cowshit.

You really thought mexicans first?
Insert ugly insult here.
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Cows only pass liver flukes and they are cleared by 200
yards downstream.

Hispanics carry giardia, the diarrhea forever parasite.
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This sounds like how Japan has been handling Fukushima....
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They could have drilling rigs set up in a feeble attempt to
release caldera pressure (which will blow them and Jackson
Hole off the earth.
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Jail for posting about environmental issues with yellowstone? A year? For a fucking photo? What is this, no salt for gandhi hour? I'm not a fucking lobbyist I'm not on a fucking mission, what's wrong with it other than legalities of dirt connected to earth, they got military bases on it or something?

GLP you coward. We can just rename it, then it will be legit.

That's not yellow stone, it's my backyard, a mountain with trees, next to a headline of something about yellowstone. They really can't tell the difference, it's a fucking mountain with snow on it. validation required.

Go take a photo of mount shasta or big bear, talk about environmental issues. Yes I will twist those nipples of law, I am a freedomist, we do freedom not censorship, I will skirt the boundaries of law that seems like it came from a politically oppressed country.
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Not yellowstone.

This law affects public state land and private land.
Where they graze cows.
Its a cowshit protection law.
Every drop of surface water in Wyoming is teaming with e-coli and the state does not want anyone to know.
So don't TELL anyone.
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That is crazy, Oracle!!! Thanks for the info. hf
Who has won when nothing remains?
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What about google earth. Are they going to arrest google earth for taking pics from a satellite? What about the US
Navy. They take pics too.

What about a plane load of people in a passenger jet at
36,000 ft agl. Are they going to arrest them?
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This law is primarily trying to prevent people taking
water samples and giving them to regulators or laboratories.
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What about google earth. Are they going to arrest google earth for taking pics from a satellite? What about the US
Navy. They take pics too.

What about a plane load of people in a passenger jet at
36,000 ft agl. Are they going to arrest them?
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Its not really about pictures.
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Jail for posting about environmental issues with yellowstone? A year? For a fucking photo? What is this, no salt for gandhi hour? I'm not a fucking lobbyist I'm not on a fucking mission, what's wrong with it other than legalities of dirt connected to earth, they got military bases on it or something?

GLP you coward. We can just rename it, then it will be legit.

That's not yellow stone, it's my backyard, a mountain with trees, next to a headline of something about yellowstone. They really can't tell the difference, it's a fucking mountain with snow on it. validation required.

Go take a photo of mount shasta or big bear, talk about environmental issues. Yes I will twist those nipples of law, I am a freedomist, we do freedom not censorship, I will skirt the boundaries of law that seems like it came from a politically oppressed country.
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Sorry. The Tetons are easily recognizable.
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e-Coli?

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This law is primarily trying to prevent people taking
water samples and giving them to regulators or laboratories.
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maybe it's e. coli

but also wondering if corexit got used again like in the gulf de mexico
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Jail for posting about environmental issues with yellowstone? A year? For a fucking photo? What is this, no salt for gandhi hour? I'm not a fucking lobbyist I'm not on a fucking mission, what's wrong with it other than legalities of dirt connected to earth, they got military bases on it or something?

GLP you coward. We can just rename it, then it will be legit.

That's not yellow stone, it's my backyard, a mountain with trees, next to a headline of something about yellowstone. They really can't tell the difference, it's a fucking mountain with snow on it. validation required.

Go take a photo of mount shasta or big bear, talk about environmental issues. Yes I will twist those nipples of law, I am a freedomist, we do freedom not censorship, I will skirt the boundaries of law that seems like it came from a politically oppressed country.
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Sorry. The Tetons are easily recognizable.
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You didn't read the intro paragraph carefully...
They say (at least so far) that just "nature scenes" in
Yellowstone are just fine...but people who happen to come
across some "environmental issue"--like a pool of lava
oozing out of a vent--or some obvious e-coli contamination of one of their streams...THAT is what the new law is for.
NO WHISTLE-BLOWING on matters concerning Yellowstone and NO PHOTOS (considered "data") to back up your claim.
That's it.
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eq

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Sorry...didn't see that thread. This thread has a video
and poll...so it is technically different. But thanks
for pointing that out! More important than "who gets credit"
for the story...is that this information gets out ASAP
since there will be lots of folks traveling to Yellowstone
National Park this year with their little cameras in tow!

cheers
O'sCookie
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No apologies necessary, but appreciate the manners.

Simple correlation.

Great find. Some crazy times.
"Nobody gets out of here alive." Jim Morrison
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e-Coli?
Maybe they should make defecation in public surface waters
a capitol offense punishable by death.

Illegal hispanics have contaminated it all with their shit,
cause they all carry guardia and will drop their pants and go
anywhere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69200306


NO. Its not hispanics.
Its COWS and cowshit.

You really thought mexicans first?
Insert ugly insult here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29486139


Cows only pass liver flukes and they are cleared by 200
yards downstream.

Hispanics carry giardia, the diarrhea forever parasite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69200306


Not true and idiotic.
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Honestly O's all your threads are overhyped...just saying and also my opinion😝





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