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My conversation with Gov. Abbott's Office RE: Jade Helm | |
| Raye
Offer Upgrade  User ID: 68855665  United States05/11/2015 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 54200874 United States05/11/2015 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I called and expressed my concerns, many of which have been talked about here. Quoting: Raye I said unscrupulous people may seek out who has the armbands for visual observation and go make an armband of their own and proceed to commit crimes. (Her response---if you see suspicious activity, call your local police). I said the person could attempt to commandeer a vehicle from someone and the person may give up their vehicle, thinking they are participating in the exercise. Or, they may draw their weapon if they have one. (Her response---troops will not be committing crimes. Call your local police or defend yourself, whichever is appropriate). The main point I made was this: "I support our troops but I do not trust their Commander in Chief. He has lied to americans so many times that I expect the exact opposite of whatever he says. And troops follow orders. THAT IS WHAT THEY DO. They. Follow. Orders. Jade Helm is proof of this. They have been ordered to participate in this exercise, and they are, instead of NOT following orders and going the US/Mexico border and stopping criminals from entering our country. Please have Governor Abbott withdraw participation in the Jade Helm exercise." *****What I do is write down what I want to say before I call. And I do not leave a message. I stay on the line and wait for the live person. I am in DFW area and I call the Main Switchboard, tell operator what my concern and comment regards, she switches me, I then wait on the line for the LIVE PERSON. If anyone else wants to call, here are the phone numbers [link to gov.texas.gov (secure)] *****less than 50% Telephone Information and Referral Hotline [for Texas callers] : (800) 843-5789 Information and Referral and Opinion Hotline [for Austin, Texas and out-of-state callers] : (512) 463-1782 Office of the Governor Main Switchboard [office hours are 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. CST] : (512) 463-2000 Citizen's Assistance Telecommunications Device If you are using a telecommunication device for the deaf (TDD), call 711 to reach Relay Texas Edited to add "office" to the thread title Well done Raye |
| Raye
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| Sleeping Giant
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| Raye
(OP) User ID: 68855665 United States05/11/2015 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We need to avoid this. This is why we need to call and stop J. H . If anyone has suggestions for a better thread title, please advise. I am female, as was the first kitten, Raye, I helped bring into this world and had the treasure of giving her love for 7 1/2 short years. My handle here is in her honor. |
| Raye
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| Luxen
User ID: 68852339 United States05/11/2015 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I applaud you for your assertion attempt. These people don't listen to calls. They are not "normal". They respond to bribery. They respond to lobbying. They respond to contracts for family and self. They respond to campaign "donations". They may respond to coercion and leverage. In the old days they responded to force, but now there is a modern web of entanglement complete with their own army at the end of the line. So while calling may make you feel like your doing something, that is pretty much all it accomplishes. Besides adding your name to their list. Regards. "Nobody gets out of here alive." Jim Morrison |
| Raye
(OP) User ID: 68855665 United States05/11/2015 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I applaud you for your assertion attempt. Quoting: Luxen These people don't listen to calls. They are not "normal". They respond to bribery. They respond to lobbying. They respond to contracts for family and self. They respond to campaign "donations". They may respond to coercion and leverage. In the old days they responded to force, but now there is a modern web of entanglement complete with their own army at the end of the line. So while calling may make you feel like your doing something, that is pretty much all it accomplishes. Besides adding your name to their list. Regards. Thank you for your comments. I agree with you, for the most part. The federal gov, there is no chance. We can still influence the state gov to some extent. And I feel I must do all possible. And I am already on some list, somewhere. I do not care. I fear no other man or woman. Thanks again for commenting. I am female, as was the first kitten, Raye, I helped bring into this world and had the treasure of giving her love for 7 1/2 short years. My handle here is in her honor. |
| Nyet User ID: 64167226 United States05/11/2015 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I applaud you for your assertion attempt. Quoting: Luxen These people don't listen to calls. They are not "normal". They respond to bribery. They respond to lobbying. They respond to contracts for family and self. They respond to campaign "donations". They may respond to coercion and leverage. In the old days they responded to force, but now there is a modern web of entanglement complete with their own army at the end of the line. So while calling may make you feel like your doing something, that is pretty much all it accomplishes. Besides adding your name to their list. Regards. Maybe we all should offer him $5, I'm sure with the amount of people we have, he might go for not participating. |
| Luxen
User ID: 68852339 United States05/11/2015 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I applaud you for your assertion attempt. Quoting: Luxen These people don't listen to calls. They are not "normal". They respond to bribery. They respond to lobbying. They respond to contracts for family and self. They respond to campaign "donations". They may respond to coercion and leverage. In the old days they responded to force, but now there is a modern web of entanglement complete with their own army at the end of the line. So while calling may make you feel like your doing something, that is pretty much all it accomplishes. Besides adding your name to their list. Regards. Thank you for your comments. I agree with you, for the most part. The federal gov, there is no chance. We can still influence the state gov to some extent. And I feel I must do all possible. And I am already on some list, somewhere. I do not care. I fear no other man or woman. Thanks again for commenting. State Gov, perhaps. Local is still influenced by proximity. National I'm afraid, has literally been infected by evil. And not to be defeatist. There is still a way. It is non traditional and must combine the elements of religion, science and the mass energy of the populace. But most only understand prayer. Meditation is another version, but it is HIGHLY effective in altering both the mood and consciousness of a group. There are studies proving this. Its one of the reasons stadiums are set up like they are, to absorb, collect and direct the mass energy of the un-enlightened populace towards the center of Gov power in capitals. Ever wonder why the monuments are built like they are? Hmm.... So there is a way, just unfortunately we are lacking in awareness due to distraction and chemical influences. "Nobody gets out of here alive." Jim Morrison |
| Luxen
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| Luxen
User ID: 68852339 United States05/11/2015 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I applaud you for your assertion attempt. Quoting: Luxen These people don't listen to calls. They are not "normal". They respond to bribery. They respond to lobbying. They respond to contracts for family and self. They respond to campaign "donations". They may respond to coercion and leverage. In the old days they responded to force, but now there is a modern web of entanglement complete with their own army at the end of the line. So while calling may make you feel like your doing something, that is pretty much all it accomplishes. Besides adding your name to their list. Regards. Maybe we all should offer him $5, I'm sure with the amount of people we have, he might go for not participating. I believe the estimated cost influence in the local region was around 150,000 dollars. Anything over that amount set up to the local Gov in the form of a "contribution", would probably have some sway, actually. "Nobody gets out of here alive." Jim Morrison |
| Luxen
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| Raye
(OP) User ID: 68855665 United States05/11/2015 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Luxen, I agree with your other post very much and I have never heard about the stadium/max energy and from what I do know, it makes perfect sense! One person connected is more powerful than many who are not. And you know how one person may start cheering at a game, then others gradually join in and before ya know it, others have joined in. Our posts may give someone else another idea and post it, and get others active doing something. Thank you again! Thank you, ac. I hope others join in my efforts. I am female, as was the first kitten, Raye, I helped bring into this world and had the treasure of giving her love for 7 1/2 short years. My handle here is in her honor. |
| Botany girl
User ID: 68425176 United States05/11/2015 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good work, OP.  |
| Raye
(OP) User ID: 68855665 United States05/11/2015 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice- walk the talk- that's the only way to start getting things done. I'm not in TX or I would call too. I find that you can get through a lot of these threads too by calling stores, restaurants, etc in areas where people say things are happening. People are always happy to talk and confirm if something is going on. Quoting: Botany girl Good work, OP. That is an idea I hadn't thought of and I am glad you posted it. I am going to write it down so I do not forget. Thanks much! I am female, as was the first kitten, Raye, I helped bring into this world and had the treasure of giving her love for 7 1/2 short years. My handle here is in her honor. |
| Botany girl
User ID: 68425176 United States05/12/2015 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice- walk the talk- that's the only way to start getting things done. I'm not in TX or I would call too. I find that you can get through a lot of these threads too by calling stores, restaurants, etc in areas where people say things are happening. People are always happy to talk and confirm if something is going on. Quoting: Botany girl Good work, OP. That is an idea I hadn't thought of and I am glad you posted it. I am going to write it down so I do not forget. Thanks much! Your welcome. I just started looking at spots on maps, finding what's close by, block your number and call. Usually people are happy to chat if they aren't slammed busy and you are friendly. I usually say, my mom saw something weird or my cousin lives nearby and heard something... It sounds better than saying we are on a conspiracy site chatting about their town. Haha!  |
| Botany girl
User ID: 68425176 United States05/14/2015 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 62323787 United States05/14/2015 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I called and expressed my concerns, many of which have been talked about here. Quoting: Raye I said unscrupulous people may seek out who has the armbands for visual observation and go make an armband of their own and proceed to commit crimes. (Her response---if you see suspicious activity, call your local police). I said the person could attempt to commandeer a vehicle from someone and the person may give up their vehicle, thinking they are participating in the exercise. Or, they may draw their weapon if they have one. (Her response---troops will not be committing crimes. Call your local police or defend yourself, whichever is appropriate). The main point I made was this: "I support our troops but I do not trust their Commander in Chief. He has lied to americans so many times that I expect the exact opposite of whatever he says. And troops follow orders. THAT IS WHAT THEY DO. They. Follow. Orders. Jade Helm is proof of this. They have been ordered to participate in this exercise, and they are, instead of NOT following orders and going the US/Mexico border and stopping criminals from entering our country. Please have Governor Abbott withdraw participation in the Jade Helm exercise." *****What I do is write down what I want to say before I call. And I do not leave a message. I stay on the line and wait for the live person. I am in DFW area and I call the Main Switchboard, tell operator what my concern and comment regards, she switches me, I then wait on the line for the LIVE PERSON. If anyone else wants to call, here are the phone numbers [link to gov.texas.gov (secure)] *****less than 50% Telephone Information and Referral Hotline [for Texas callers] : (800) 843-5789 Information and Referral and Opinion Hotline [for Austin, Texas and out-of-state callers] : (512) 463-1782 Office of the Governor Main Switchboard [office hours are 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. CST] : (512) 463-2000 Citizen's Assistance Telecommunications Device If you are using a telecommunication device for the deaf (TDD), call 711 to reach Relay Texas Edited to add "office" to the thread title I spoke at length with a Lt Colonel reserve Army aviation. This was at a funeral after gathering. He said, while noone else was in earshot, that 95% of active service personnel can't stand obola. He was very uncomfortable saying it, ..he at first said I'm not at liberty to discuss it..I then offered 80% must hate his guts..he then said more like 95% and DROPPED the subject like a bomb. I find it hard to believe based on that conversation American troops would blindly obey orders to enforce Martial Law..especially in TX where EVERY service person knows we highly support them. |
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