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Maxim Miser
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Grow your own tobacco?
I'm just curious.

The biggest problem with tobacco is the chemicals they add to the plant. People grow their own marijuana plants, why not grow your own tobacco plants.
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Re: Grow your own tobacco?
Exactly! 5a
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Re: Grow your own tobacco?
My Mumsy used to do that.



I guess it was to late.
She died of cancer anyways.

I do remeber that those homemade cigarettes used to last about 30 minutes each.

Being a quebecoise, I was allowed to smoke at a pretty young age. (not smart I know)
I was often quoted as saying : "I'll do it right after my cigarette"......It would piss her off like you wouldn't believe....
" I'll cut you like a box,along the flaps."

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Re: Grow your own tobacco?
I'm just curious.

The biggest problem with tobacco is the chemicals they add to the plant. People grow their own marijuana plants, why not grow your own tobacco plants.
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My cousin did, with native american seeds.He said the end product was unrecognizable in comparison to store bought tobacco.
One pipe load in the morning was all he needed to satisfy his addiction, and it gave him quite a buzz.
Eventually, it enabled him to quit, something he had wrestled with for years.
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Re: Grow your own tobacco?
Where would you get seeds?



Edit: My bad, I googled "tobacco seeds" lots of places!!!
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Re: Grow your own tobacco?
Where would you get seeds?
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In the seedshop.
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I really don't know.He moves so much, it is hard to keep track.He grew the tobacco when he lived in Boulder,but last I heard, he was living in Pacific Palisades, California.
I will try to track him down.Meanwhile I would suggest google.
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Re: Grow your own tobacco?
Traditional Native American Tobacco Seed Bank and Education Program
[link to www.treaty7.org]
provides traditional tobacco seeds at no cost to all Native Americans requesting them, as long as they agree to use the resulting tobacco very carefully, in prayers, ceremonies and other traditional contexts
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I know the link isn't working;I just tried it.But that is one I came up with on the first page of MSN results.
I'll keep looking.
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TOBACCO SEED AND TOBACCO BOOK HOME PAGE
Sacred and traditional Native American tobacco seed varieties.

Redwood City Seed Company's listing from the
Catalog of Vegetable and Herb seeds, specializing in hot peppers
Copyright © 1999, 2001, 2002 by Craig & Sue Dremann. All rights reserved.
Phone (650) 325-7333

NOTICE! - Check with your local USDA and US Treasury Dept. (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms) so you can comply with any rules or regulations regarding the cultivation, production, or manufacture of tobacco or tobacco products before planting any tobacco seeds you purchase from us. Your seed order constitutes that you have read this notice and understand that you are responsible for any rules or regulations regarding tobacco cultivation, production or manufacture.

CANCER & HEALTH EFFECTS NOTICE - By purchasing any of these seeds, the buyer knows that tobacco causes cancer and other health problems, and that the buyer will be entirely responsible when ingesting any of this product, or offering this product to others, and the seed seller will not be liable for any cancer or other health problems resulting from the use of this product. Your seed order constitutes that you have read this notice and understand that you are responsible for any cancer or other health problems resulting from the use of this product.

HOW TO ORDER
Information for all customers: Use our Tobacco order blank. Otherwise write your order on an 8-1/2" x 11" sheet of paper, clearly printing your name and address in the upper left-hand corner.

USA CUSTOMERS--
Send payment with all orders. Payment can be made in the form of a check, money order, or cash. U.S. postage stamps may be sent in the place of coins. We regret we cannot accept credit cards. or phone orders. We usually cannot ship tobacco seeds outside of the USA, check with your country's department of agriculture before ordering.

CALIFORNIA CUSTOMERS---
Please add 7-1/4% sales tax if you live outside San Mateo County, or 8-1/4% if you live within San Mateo County.

POSTAGE & PACKING CHARGES:
U.S.A., MEXICO, AND CANADA CUSTOMERS,
please include the following amounts to cover postage and packing:
Packets: Add $2 for the first packet, and 10¢ for each additional packet.
Books or Pamphlets: Prices include postage.

SEEDS-----
TOBACCO (Nicotiana)
Mostly annual herbs from the Americas which have been used for thousands of years in Indian shamanistic ceremonies. Now, by lowering the nicotine content through curing, it has become the most powerfully addictive substance in the world. Easily grown, start like tomatoes in pots and transplant seedlings out spacing 1-2 ft. apart. Plants need rich, well fertilized soil in full sun. Start seeds as you would tomatoes, planting 10-15 seeds in a 3-4" plastic pot in potting soil and keep in shade. Seeds will germinate in 2-3 weeks and let grow until they are large enough to transplant:

Tobacco seedling, the size to transplant into their own individual pots.

Carefully separate seedlings and repot each individual plant into their own individual 3" pot and let grow until they are 3-4" tall. Plant out when night-time temps. are above 50º F, and feed with liquid fertilizer every 2 weeks during the growing season. Nicotine content is raised by letting plant flower, or more leaves with lower nicotine content can be produced by cutting off the flowerstalk.

WARNING: Uncured tobacco can be very strong and even dangerous, so smoke with caution until you become familiar with its power. Tobacco is known to cause cancer, birth defects and other health problems.


-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------
SEEDS - EACH PACKET CONTAINS at least 100 seeds:

----Alata. Night-scented tobacco. Plants 3-4 ft. tall and 18 inches across, blooming continuously with star-shaped white flowers 2" across with 3" long tubes. One of the world's most fragrant flowers, whose scent at night carries for 100 ft. or more; and the fluorescent-white flowers reflect the moonlight. Ornamental. PKT. $2.50

----California Native (Quadrivalis) The most popular species grown by Western Indian tribes, especially in California, considered a milder smoke that the Common tobacco. Because this is a wild plants, seeds take at least a month to germinate. Extremely rare. PKT. $2.50

----Common (Tabacum) Annual herb 3-6 ft., with leaves to one to two feet long and rose-colored flowers. Leaves and flowering tops contain nicotine. Before 1492, tobacco was known only in the Americas. Since that time, its use has spread to all peoples of the world and is now the most widely-grown non-food plant. Our seedstock is Tobacco-virus-free. PKT. $2, One Ounce $54, One Pound $540.

----Sacred (N. rustica) Annual to 2 ft. with yellow flowers, native to North America where it has been widely used by the Native peoples. The most powerful form of tobacco with a harsh flavor until the leaves are fermented, a process of curing and aging taking 6 months to 4 years that gives it a more pleasant taste. PKT. $2.50



-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

BOOKLETS
All books and pamphlets offered are paperback and the prices include postage to customers in the USA, Canada and Mexico.

TOBACCO: Instructions for its cultivation and curing. USDA FB#6. 1892. Basic information on preparing the seedbed, planting and transplanting seedlings, cultivation, and the cutting and curing of tobacco. 6 pages. $2.50 postpaid

TOBACCO, Methods of Curing. USDA FB#60. 1898. Pamphlet mainly written for the tobacco grower, but contains good information for the home gardener who is interested in producing a quality smokable product for home use. 14 pages. $3 postpaid


-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

Tobacco order blank.

Updated 2/1/2004
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09/01/2006 02:46 PM
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Re: Grow your own tobacco?
they were stong, but flavorful cigars too
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Re: Grow your own tobacco?
TOBACCO SEED AND TOBACCO BOOK HOME PAGE
Sacred and traditional Native American tobacco seed varieties.

Redwood City Seed Company's listing from the
Catalog of Vegetable and Herb seeds, specializing in hot peppers
Copyright © 1999, 2001, 2002 by Craig & Sue Dremann. All rights reserved.
Phone (650) 325-7333

NOTICE! - Check with your local USDA and US Treasury Dept. (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms) so you can comply with any rules or regulations regarding the cultivation, production, or manufacture of tobacco or tobacco products before planting any tobacco seeds you purchase from us. Your seed order constitutes that you have read this notice and understand that you are responsible for any rules or regulations regarding tobacco cultivation, production or manufacture.

CANCER & HEALTH EFFECTS NOTICE - By purchasing any of these seeds, the buyer knows that tobacco causes cancer and other health problems, and that the buyer will be entirely responsible when ingesting any of this product, or offering this product to others, and the seed seller will not be liable for any cancer or other health problems resulting from the use of this product. Your seed order constitutes that you have read this notice and understand that you are responsible for any cancer or other health problems resulting from the use of this product.

HOW TO ORDER
Information for all customers: Use our Tobacco order blank. Otherwise write your order on an 8-1/2" x 11" sheet of paper, clearly printing your name and address in the upper left-hand corner.

USA CUSTOMERS--
Send payment with all orders. Payment can be made in the form of a check, money order, or cash. U.S. postage stamps may be sent in the place of coins. We regret we cannot accept credit cards. or phone orders. We usually cannot ship tobacco seeds outside of the USA, check with your country's department of agriculture before ordering.

CALIFORNIA CUSTOMERS---
Please add 7-1/4% sales tax if you live outside San Mateo County, or 8-1/4% if you live within San Mateo County.

POSTAGE & PACKING CHARGES:
U.S.A., MEXICO, AND CANADA CUSTOMERS,
please include the following amounts to cover postage and packing:
Packets: Add $2 for the first packet, and 10¢ for each additional packet.
Books or Pamphlets: Prices include postage.

SEEDS-----
TOBACCO (Nicotiana)
Mostly annual herbs from the Americas which have been used for thousands of years in Indian shamanistic ceremonies. Now, by lowering the nicotine content through curing, it has become the most powerfully addictive substance in the world. Easily grown, start like tomatoes in pots and transplant seedlings out spacing 1-2 ft. apart. Plants need rich, well fertilized soil in full sun. Start seeds as you would tomatoes, planting 10-15 seeds in a 3-4" plastic pot in potting soil and keep in shade. Seeds will germinate in 2-3 weeks and let grow until they are large enough to transplant:

Tobacco seedling, the size to transplant into their own individual pots.

Carefully separate seedlings and repot each individual plant into their own individual 3" pot and let grow until they are 3-4" tall. Plant out when night-time temps. are above 50º F, and feed with liquid fertilizer every 2 weeks during the growing season. Nicotine content is raised by letting plant flower, or more leaves with lower nicotine content can be produced by cutting off the flowerstalk.

WARNING: Uncured tobacco can be very strong and even dangerous, so smoke with caution until you become familiar with its power. Tobacco is known to cause cancer, birth defects and other health problems.


-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------
SEEDS - EACH PACKET CONTAINS at least 100 seeds:

----Alata. Night-scented tobacco. Plants 3-4 ft. tall and 18 inches across, blooming continuously with star-shaped white flowers 2" across with 3" long tubes. One of the world's most fragrant flowers, whose scent at night carries for 100 ft. or more; and the fluorescent-white flowers reflect the moonlight. Ornamental. PKT. $2.50

----California Native (Quadrivalis) The most popular species grown by Western Indian tribes, especially in California, considered a milder smoke that the Common tobacco. Because this is a wild plants, seeds take at least a month to germinate. Extremely rare. PKT. $2.50

----Common (Tabacum) Annual herb 3-6 ft., with leaves to one to two feet long and rose-colored flowers. Leaves and flowering tops contain nicotine. Before 1492, tobacco was known only in the Americas. Since that time, its use has spread to all peoples of the world and is now the most widely-grown non-food plant. Our seedstock is Tobacco-virus-free. PKT. $2, One Ounce $54, One Pound $540.

----Sacred (N. rustica) Annual to 2 ft. with yellow flowers, native to North America where it has been widely used by the Native peoples. The most powerful form of tobacco with a harsh flavor until the leaves are fermented, a process of curing and aging taking 6 months to 4 years that gives it a more pleasant taste. PKT. $2.50



-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

BOOKLETS
All books and pamphlets offered are paperback and the prices include postage to customers in the USA, Canada and Mexico.

TOBACCO: Instructions for its cultivation and curing. USDA FB#6. 1892. Basic information on preparing the seedbed, planting and transplanting seedlings, cultivation, and the cutting and curing of tobacco. 6 pages. $2.50 postpaid

TOBACCO, Methods of Curing. USDA FB#60. 1898. Pamphlet mainly written for the tobacco grower, but contains good information for the home gardener who is interested in producing a quality smokable product for home use. 14 pages. $3 postpaid


-------------------------------------------------------------​-------------------

Tobacco order blank.

Updated 2/1/2004
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380



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