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Is the Gospel of Jesus’ Wife a Fake?

 
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Is the Gospel of Jesus’ Wife a Fake?
Coptic papyrus mentioning Jesus’ wife is a forgery, according to Coptic manuscripts experts

Ellen White • 04/27/2015

(Biblicalarchaeology.com) - ...Before her presentation, Karen King, ever the diligent scholar, had the Coptic papyrus reviewed by esteemed Coptic scholars Roger Bagnall and AnneMarie Luijendijk, whose academic credentials and reputations are above reproach, and neither found reason to find it fraudulent. The Gospel of Jesus’ Wife is approximately 1.5 x 3 inches. The inscription side contains eight lines of “unpracticed, messy” Sahidic Coptic. The Gospel of Jesus’ Wife was scheduled to be published in the prestigious Harvard Theological Review (HTR) in 2012. However, due to the questions surrounding the papyrus fragment’s authenticity, the journal delayed the article until more testing could be completed. Many of these questions originated from Brown University professor of Egyptology and Assyriology Leo Depuydt, who claimed “It stinks!” only moments after viewing a photograph of the Gospel of Jesus’ Wife. HTR finally published a revised copy of Karen King’s paper, along with several articles on the Coptic papyrus in the April 2014 issue—including an article from Leo Depuydt claiming that the Gospel of Jesus’ Wife is a fake.

Less than a week after the publication of the papyrus fragment in HTR and the release of other fragments from the collection, Christian Askeland, assistant research professor of Christian Origins at Indiana Wesleyan University and the central region director and distinguished scholar of Coptic manuscripts for Green Scholars Initiative, revealed something remarkable: He demonstrated that a Gnostic Gospel of John fragment—from the same collection as the Gospel of Jesus’ Wife—was a forgery...

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Is the 'Gospel of Jesus's Wife' a fake after all? Fresh doubts cast over ancient papyrus that suggested Jesus was married after another in the collection with the SAME handwriting is proved to be a forgery

By LIZZIE EDMONDS
PUBLISHED: 04:26 EST, 30 April 2014 | UPDATED: 10:55 EST, 30 April 2014

(DailyMail) - ...Fresh questions over the authenticity of the 'Gospel of Jesus's Wife' papyrus have been raised after a text from the same collection written in the same handwriting was proved to be a fake, experts say.

Written in ancient Coptic, the Gospel of Jesus' Wife seemingly indicates Jesus was married as it reads: 'Jesus said to them, "My wife"' and '…she will be able to be my disciple…'

Since then, historians and religious leaders have attempted to both prove and deny the artefact's credibility. Last month, carbon testing on the papyrus seemed to suggest it was written between the fourth and eighth centuries and was therefore authentic.

However, experts say another fragment from the same collection as the 'Jesus's wife' papyrus is a fake - casting doubts on the legitimacy of the latter.

The forgery - a fragment of the canonical Gospel of John - is also written in the same handwriting, with the same writing instrument and ink - which for some proves once and for all the Jesus's wife piece is fake.

Writing in a blog for CNN, Joel S. Baden - an associate professor of Old Testament at Yale Divinity School - and Candida Moss - a professor of New Testament and early Christianity at the University of Notre Dame - said: 'It’s never a good sign for a text of doubtful authenticity to be found in the company of a sure forgery.

'More directly: Multiple experts agree that the fragment of John and the Jesus’ wife papyrus are written in the same hand, using the same ink and even the same writing instrument.

'Simply put: If one is a forgery, they’re both forgeries.'...

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Fake. Already debunked.
Genesis-Acts,Hebrews-Revelation to the Jews
Romans-Philemon to the Church
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If you think about it, the fake would be one most believed, and not really ironic either other than the way the mind is conditioned to "not think" :-/
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Yes, Fake

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Yeah, I wouldn't trust anyone who told me he just discovered something newly unearthed "truth" from 2000 years ago about the most well known, well documented, person on the planet... not to mention the only born son of God.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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NEWSFLASH...the whole bible is a fake. Wake up and admit when you've been had.
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Not to be confused with The Gospel of Mary Magdalene
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NEWSFLASH...the whole bible is a fake. Wake up and admit when you've been had.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29876750


uh, earth to whoever you are, um, the Bible is the most predictive and best researched book on the planet…


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yt: Lee Strobel - The Case for the Resurrection
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yt: The Bible Is True! ~ The New Evidence That Demands A Verdict
[link to www.youtube.com]
yt: Walter Veith (13) Battle of the Bibles /Total Onslaught
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youtube: The Resurrection Argument That Changed a Generation of Scholars - Gary Habermas at UCSB [link to youtu.be]
yt: The Forbidden Book - History of The English Bible (Documentary Film)
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yt: A Lamp In The Dark:untold history of Bible ~ Full Film
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and NEWSFLASH: the current new testament has been translated into hundreds of languages that can be cross-referenced for accuracy.
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NEWSFLASH...the whole bible is a fake. Wake up and admit when you've been had.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29876750


uh, earth to whoever you are, um, the Bible is the most predictive and best researched book on the planet…


----------
yt: Lee Strobel - The Case for the Resurrection
[link to www.youtube.com]
yt: The Bible Is True! ~ The New Evidence That Demands A Verdict
[link to www.youtube.com]
yt: Walter Veith (13) Battle of the Bibles /Total Onslaught
[link to www.youtube.com]
youtube: The Resurrection Argument That Changed a Generation of Scholars - Gary Habermas at UCSB [link to youtu.be]
yt: The Forbidden Book - History of The English Bible (Documentary Film)
[link to www.youtube.com]
yt: A Lamp In The Dark:untold history of Bible ~ Full Film
[link to www.youtube.com]

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and NEWSFLASH: the current new testament has been translated into hundreds of languages that can be cross-referenced for accuracy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35294996


hesright
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Re: Is the Gospel of Jesus’ Wife a Fake?
The bible goes into great detail about Jesus' Wife.
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The bible goes into great detail about Jesus' Wife.
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No it doesn't.
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NEWSFLASH...the whole bible is a fake. Wake up and admit when you've been had.
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NEWSFLASH...the whole bible is a fake. Wake up and admit when you've been had.
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clappaclappa
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You clueless antichrists will never know the powerful indwelling of the Holy Spirit that imparts amazing spiritual gifts unless you're brave enough to humble yourselves and accept the gift Lord Yeshuah offered for you.
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The bible goes into great detail about Jesus' Wife.
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No it doesn't.
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OHH really? Never read Revelations?
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The Bible Fraud by Tony Bushby

p. 100 - "The belief that Jesus was married was supported by his title 'Rabbi', a term that translates as "My Master.' Jesus was called 'Rabbi' thirteen times in the New Testament and therefore he had to be married for the Jewish Mishnaic Law of the time specifically stated - 'an unmarried man may not be a Rabbi.' From information recorded in old church writings and other ancient texts, it was possible to determine that Rabbi Jesus was married three times.

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The bible goes into great detail about Jesus' Wife.
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No it doesn't.
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OHH really? Never read Revelations?
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It's a metaphor, Farty Whiffnose.
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NEWSFLASH...the whole bible is a fake. Wake up and admit when you've been had.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29876750



 Quoting: beebee


You clueless antichrists will never know the powerful indwelling of the Holy Spirit that imparts amazing spiritual gifts unless you're brave enough to humble yourselves and accept the gift Lord Yeshuah offered for you.
 Quoting: Fist McKraken


"It's wonderful of you to believe you've found the right path; it's a huge mistake for you to believe yours is the one everyone should be on." Anon

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NEWSFLASH...the whole bible is a fake. Wake up and admit when you've been had.
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 Quoting: beebee


You clueless antichrists will never know the powerful indwelling of the Holy Spirit that imparts amazing spiritual gifts unless you're brave enough to humble yourselves and accept the gift Lord Yeshuah offered for you.
 Quoting: Fist McKraken


"It's wonderful of you to believe you've found the right path; it's a huge mistake for you to believe yours is the one everyone should be on." Anon

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No, it's not a mistake. There's one God and one Son of God. You must go through the Son to get access to God. Did you just fall off a turnip truck? Even demons know this.




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Jesus was NEVER married and he NEVER had children!!!
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The Bible Fraud by Tony Bushby

p. 100 - "The belief that Jesus was married was supported by his title 'Rabbi', a term that translates as "My Master.' Jesus was called 'Rabbi' thirteen times in the New Testament and therefore he had to be married for the Jewish Mishnaic Law of the time specifically stated - 'an unmarried man may not be a Rabbi.' From information recorded in old church writings and other ancient texts, it was possible to determine that Rabbi Jesus was married three times.

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putin
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The bible goes into great detail about Jesus' Wife.
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No it doesn't.
 Quoting: Fist McKraken

OHH really? Never read Revelations?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62154836


It's a metaphor, Farty Whiffnose.
 Quoting: Fist McKraken


I've read the Bible , cover to cover 16+ times. JESUS WAS NEVER MARRIED!!!! NEVER. And it does NOT say anywhere in the Holy innerant , living word of THE LIVING God anything, ZERO about a wife.
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The Bible Fraud by Tony Bushby

p. 100 - "The belief that Jesus was married was supported by his title 'Rabbi', a term that translates as "My Master.' Jesus was called 'Rabbi' thirteen times in the New Testament and therefore he had to be married for the Jewish Mishnaic Law of the time specifically stated - 'an unmarried man may not be a Rabbi.' From information recorded in old church writings and other ancient texts, it was possible to determine that Rabbi Jesus was married three times.

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You are an idiot believing man made LIES!
The word of GOD says "Men will believe a lie and be damned because they accepted NOT the truth!!!" Oh...that goes for women too!
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The bible goes into great detail about Jesus' Wife.
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No it doesn't.
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OHH really? Never read Revelations?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62154836


It's a metaphor, Farty Whiffnose.
 Quoting: Fist McKraken

Says who? If he wants to marry a city, he's going to marry a city. Are you going to tell him no?
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NEWSFLASH...the whole bible is a fake. Wake up and admit when you've been had.
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clappaclappa
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You clueless antichrists will never know the powerful indwelling of the Holy Spirit that imparts amazing spiritual gifts unless you're brave enough to humble yourselves and accept the gift Lord Yeshuah offered for you.
 Quoting: Fist McKraken


Exactly! !!
Which is why the Lord tells us not to cast our pearls ( wisdom) before swine, because they will trample it under their feet.
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No it doesn't.
 Quoting: Fist McKraken

OHH really? Never read Revelations?
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It's a metaphor, Farty Whiffnose.
 Quoting: Fist McKraken

Says who? If he wants to marry a city, he's going to marry a city. Are you going to tell him no?
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Don't be a douchebag.
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NEWSFLASH...the whole bible is a fake. Wake up and admit when you've been had.
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clappaclappa
 Quoting: beebee


You clueless antichrists will never know the powerful indwelling of the Holy Spirit that imparts amazing spiritual gifts unless you're brave enough to humble yourselves and accept the gift Lord Yeshuah offered for you.
 Quoting: Fist McKraken


Exactly! !!
Which is why the Lord tells us not to cast our pearls ( wisdom) before swine, because they will trample it under their feet.
 Quoting: Just Trina


You're quite right, Ms. Just Trina.
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NEWSFLASH...the whole bible is a fake. Wake up and admit when you've been had.
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So is your brain.
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gee....let me think......
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You clueless antichrists will never know the powerful indwelling of the Holy Spirit that imparts amazing spiritual gifts unless you're brave enough to humble yourselves and accept the gift Lord Yeshuah offered for you.
 Quoting: Fist McKraken


"It's wonderful of you to believe you've found the right path; it's a huge mistake for you to believe yours is the one everyone should be on." Anon

 Quoting: beebee


No, it's not a mistake. There's one God and one Son of God. You must go through the Son to get access to God. Did you just fall off a turnip truck? Even demons know this.

 Quoting: Fist McKraken


Sorry, but it is a mistake. Christianity is but ONE religion. It is YOUR belief, not everyone's. I didn't know there were "christian" demons. You have no right to tell other people they are on the wrong path.
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