Eternal Life in Hellfire?

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Why is it taught that the wages of sin is not death, but that it is some sort of separation from the natural body, and some spiritual body being cast into flames that shall burn for all eternity? How is that death? That is still life. Eternal life even.

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

And how is it possible that Jesus paid the price for our sins, if the wages of sin is eternal torment in flames? No, the wages of sin is death, and this price Jesus paid with His very own life, with His very own blood. Eternal Life in flames being made the punishment makes the sacrifice of Jesus of none effect.

God uses this same eternal flames to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah.

Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

According to the Scriptures, Sodom and Gomorrha are set forth as examples, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Genesis 19:24-25 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; 25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

Fire and brimstone, or eternal fire as it is called in Jude, was sent upon Sodom and Gomorrah. God overthrew those cities, all the plain, and the inhabitants of the cities for their wickedness. Are Sodom and Gomorrah still burning now? No! What then happened to Sodom and Gomorrah?

2 Peter 2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

Sodom and Gomorrah are turned into ashes! And that is the same fate of Satan, and all of the wicked! Even our very world shall be burned with this fire! And all this burning shall take place in the presence of the saints! Are we really going to behold people burning for all eternity? For all eternity, shall we look out the city and see Satan burning? Possibly friends that didn't make it burning? Shall we watch the wicked burn for eternity?

No! All of the wicked, including Satan, shall be burnt up, and turnt into ashes. The land shall be laid waste, the people brought to nothing, they shall cease to exist, as if they have never existed before. The wages of sin is death! Not eternal life in hellfire, but death!

Revelation 20:7-10 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. 10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

2 Peter 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

Isaiah 34:9-12 And the streams thereof shall be turned into pitch, and the dust thereof into brimstone, and the land thereof shall become burning pitch. 10 It shall not be quenched night nor day; the smoke thereof shall go up for ever: from generation to generation it shall lie waste; none shall pass through it for ever and ever. 11 But the cormorant and the bittern shall possess it; the owl also and the raven shall dwell in it: and he shall stretch out upon it the line of confusion, and the stones of emptiness. 12 They shall call the nobles thereof to the kingdom, but none shall be there, and all her princes shall be nothing.

Malachi 4:1-3 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. 2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. 3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.

Obadiah 1:15-16 For the day of the LORD is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head. 16 For as ye have drunk upon my holy mountain, so shall all the heathen drink continually, yea, they shall drink, and they shall swallow down, and they shall be as though they had not been.


Revelation 14:10-11 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Ezekiel 28:13-19 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. 18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. 19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

Why then do the Scriptures say "for ever"? It needs to noted that both these ideas cannot be true at the same time: That one shall burn for literally all eternity, and at the same time, shall burn up, become ashes, and cease to exist. It can only be one way or the other. So which is it? It is the latter. Why then "for ever"?

For ever needs to be looked at in the context of the Scriptures. Everywhere it says "for ever" does not mean for eternity. We know that the LORD shall reign for all eternity.

Exodus 15:18 The LORD shall reign for ever and ever.

But to think that for ever means for all eternity everywhere, we would run into issues like this:

Exodus 12:17 And ye shall observe the feast of unleavened bread; for in this selfsame day have I brought your armies out of the land of Egypt: therefore shall ye observe this day in your generations by an ordinance for ever.

Should the feast of unleavened bread still be kept by Christians? Those Jews who became Christians, are they to keep the feasts still? No. If for ever in this passage meant for all eternity, we would have to void passages like this:

Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

In this case, for ever meant "for ever until Christ shall causes the sacrifices and oblations to cease". And we have Jonah in the belly of the great fish, depicting that he had been there "for ever" all though he was only there for three days and three nights. In this case, Jonah was expressing how long he felt trapped in this area, and in distress. It felt like "for ever" to him.

Jonah 2:1-6 Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish's belly, 2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice. 3 For thou hadst cast me into the deep, in the midst of the seas; and the floods compassed me about: all thy billows and thy waves passed over me. 4 Then I said, I am cast out of thy sight; yet I will look again toward thy holy temple. 5 The waters compassed me about, even to the soul: the depth closed me round about, the weeds were wrapped about my head. 6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.

We cannot take for ever to mean literally for all eternity in terms of hellfire, when we have verses that do declare the wicked shall be brought to nothing, that declare that they shall cease to exist, and that they shall be brought to ashes. We have to take for ever and ever in it's proper context. Yes, the eternal flames shall burn for a long time! The wicked though are all burned according to their works. Those who lived whose lives weren't extremely evil, but still rejected Christ, will burn up quicker than those who lived extremely evil lives, and yet they shall up quicker than the fallen angels, all of whom shall burn up quicker than Satan, whom shall be burning the longest. The event of fire coming down from heaven, to devour the wicked, and Satan, and his angels, is the great judgment scene.

Revelation 20:11-15 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

And that, is the wages of sin. Not eternal life in flames, but eternal death, executed by the everlasting flames of God. Amen.

Last Edited by DGenesis1:29 on 05/11/2015 07:14 PM