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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36311160 United States 04/06/2015 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The Greek settlers identified their god Hermes with Thoth. Like Thoth, he was Lunar, and associated with medicine and the realm of the dead. Both were tricksters and messengers. Hermes was the "logos", the interpreter of Divine Will to humanity. In Stoic philosophy, Hermes is both "logos" and "demiurge", which probably owed something to the Hermopolitans. In Alexandrian Egypt, the Greek Hermes (identified with Thoth), became cosmopolitan and Hellenistic, but Egyptianized and known throughout the Roman world as "the Egyptian". Interestingly, by intermingling native Egyptian (Thoth) and Greek theology (Hermes) with Hellenistic philosophy, a syncretic sum was produced, a major and crucial archetypal idea, which encompassed the function of the cognitive in the Mediterranean cultures of before Christianity : Hermes Trismegistus, or Hermes the "Thrice Greatest", for during their rituals, the Egyptians used to call Thoth "Great ! Great ! Great !". " Check your inbox, message from other night |
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1st Degree Illuminist User ID: 69105922 Spain 05/03/2015 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Spoken like the true deluded faithful. The Demiurge, I understand to be a Platonic idea, but is commonly used by Gnostic thinkers. Plato's Demiurge is the 'craftsman' who 'crafted' or otherwise created this imperfect world (& universe I guess?) of ours, using a type of cosmic 'clay,' moulded in the image of what Plato described as 'The Perfect Forms' that exist in the.... um.. realm of Perfect Forms, I guess (?!). Very close to what the bible describes, except the bible says that 'God' created man out of the dust of the earth, mix soily dirt with water & what do you have? Clay! The Buddhists & enlightenment religions describe this 'realm of perfect forms' as the domain of mind, scientists believe mind to be a by-product of a material brain, enlightenment thinkers & the ancient Greek & Gnostic thinkers agree with the enlightenment religions, that mind is primary & matter is a 'product' of mind (or an illusionary product of mind, scientists are strting to see the 'material' world existing as a holographic 'illusion,' enlightenment thinkers seem to see this illusion like a mirage in the desert, but it is starting to appear more & more like a magicians stage trick type of illusion. And that magician is most likely to be..... The Demiurge!! |
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1st Degree Illuminist User ID: 69105922 Spain 05/03/2015 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As Plato does, Gnosticism presents a distinction between a supranatural, unknowable reality and the sensible materiality of which the demiurge is creator. However, in contrast to Plato, several systems of Gnostic thought present the Demiurge as antagonistic to the Supreme God: his act of creation either in unconscious and fundamentally flawed imitation of the divine model, or else formed with the malevolent intention of entrapping aspects of the divine in materiality. Thus, in such systems, the Demiurge acts as a solution to the problem of evil. In the Apocryphon of John (several versions of which are found in the Nag Hammadi library), the Demiurge has the name "Yaltabaoth", and proclaims himself as God: "Now the archon who is weak has three names. The first name is Yaltabaoth, the second is Saklas, and the third is Samael. And he is impious in his arrogance which is in him. For he said, 'I am God and there is no other God beside me,' for he is ignorant of his strength, the place from which he had come." "Samael", in the Judeo-Christian tradition, refers to the evil angel of death, and corresponds to the Christian demon of that name, one second only to Satan. Literally, it can mean "blind god" or "god of the blind" in Aramaic (Syriac sæmʻa-ʼel); another alternative title is "Saklas", Aramaic for "fool" (Syriac sækla "the foolish one"). Gnostic myth recounts that Sophia (Greek, literally meaning "wisdom"), the Demiurge's mother and a partial aspect of the divine Pleroma or "Fullness", desired to create something apart from the divine totality, and without the receipt of divine assent. In this abortive act of separate creation, she gave birth to the monstrous Demiurge and, being ashamed of her deed, she wrapped him in a cloud and created a throne for him within it. The Demiurge, isolated, did not behold his mother, nor anyone else, and thus concluded that only he himself existed, being ignorant of the superior levels of reality that were his birthplace. The Gnostic myths describing these events are full of intricate nuances portraying the declination of aspects of the divine into human form; this process occurs through the agency of the Demiurge who, having stolen a portion of power from his mother, sets about a work of creation in unconscious imitation of the superior Pleromatic realm. Thus Sophia's power becomes enclosed within the material forms of humanity, themselves entrapped within the material universe: the goal of Gnostic movements was typically the awakening of this spark, which permitted a return by the subject to the superior, non-material realities which were its primal source. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1457378 United States 05/03/2015 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some years ago philosopher and mathematician Dr Nick Bostrom proposed a theory called "The Simulation Hypothesis" where through a short set of reasoning one can conclude that we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation. Various observations in physics seem to support the argument. we're all just fags at a SL party |
1st Degree Illuminist User ID: 69105922 Spain 05/03/2015 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some years ago philosopher and mathematician Dr Nick Bostrom proposed a theory called "The Simulation Hypothesis" where through a short set of reasoning one can conclude that we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation. Various observations in physics seem to support the argument. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1457378 we're all just fags at a SL party As abstract & weird that concept is, it is starting to look more & more like this. The people who have been schooling me in Gnostic & Illumination knowledge (Illumination = Illuminati!!) often use the scenario in "The Matrix" trilogy of movies to explain our situation here in the physical domain. And no, my name is not Mr. Anderson |
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