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The DEMIURGE!

 
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What is it/he?

Does it/he rule this world?
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half an urge?
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There is no " demiurge "

The One True God is the Creator
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[link to www.maat.sofiatopia.org]

"The Greek settlers identified their god Hermes with Thoth. Like Thoth, he was Lunar, and associated with medicine and the realm of the dead. Both were tricksters and messengers. Hermes was the "logos", the interpreter of Divine Will to humanity. In Stoic philosophy, Hermes is both "logos" and "demiurge", which probably owed something to the Hermopolitans. In Alexandrian Egypt, the Greek Hermes (identified with Thoth), became cosmopolitan and Hellenistic, but Egyptianized and known throughout the Roman world as "the Egyptian". Interestingly, by intermingling native Egyptian (Thoth) and Greek theology (Hermes) with Hellenistic philosophy, a syncretic sum was produced, a major and crucial archetypal idea, which encompassed the function of the cognitive in the Mediterranean cultures of before Christianity : Hermes Trismegistus, or Hermes the "Thrice Greatest", for during their rituals, the Egyptians used to call Thoth "Great ! Great ! Great !". "

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There is no " demiurge "

The One True God is the Creator
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The greatest trick of the demiurge was conving people he doesn't exist.
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yahweh the devil is the demiurge
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Thread: Timelines To A Global Reset 2016-2017

Demiurge mentioned in OP
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There is no " demiurge "

The One True God is the Creator
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Spoken like the true deluded faithful.

The Demiurge, I understand to be a Platonic idea, but is commonly used by Gnostic thinkers. Plato's Demiurge is the 'craftsman' who 'crafted' or otherwise created this imperfect world (& universe I guess?) of ours, using a type of cosmic 'clay,' moulded in the image of what Plato described as 'The Perfect Forms' that exist in the.... um.. realm of Perfect Forms, I guess (?!).

Very close to what the bible describes, except the bible says that 'God' created man out of the dust of the earth, mix soily dirt with water & what do you have? Clay!

The Buddhists & enlightenment religions describe this 'realm of perfect forms' as the domain of mind, scientists believe mind to be a by-product of a material brain, enlightenment thinkers & the ancient Greek & Gnostic thinkers agree with the enlightenment religions, that mind is primary & matter is a 'product' of mind (or an illusionary product of mind, scientists are strting to see the 'material' world existing as a holographic 'illusion,' enlightenment thinkers seem to see this illusion like a mirage in the desert, but it is starting to appear more & more like a magicians stage trick type of illusion.

And that magician is most likely to be.....

The Demiurge!!
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Microposos Macroposos
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demiurge - what happens after taking half an enema
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The term Demiurge derives from the Latinized form of the Greek term dēmiourgos, δημιουργός (literally "public or skilled worker"), and refers to an entity responsible for the creation of the physical universe and the physical aspect of humanity. The term dēmiourgos occurs in a number of other religious and philosophical systems, most notably Platonism. Moral judgements of the demiurge vary from group to group within the broad category of Gnosticism such judgements usually correspond to each group's judgement of the status of materiality as being inherently evil, or else merely flawed and as good as its passive constituent matter will allow. In Gnosticism the Demiurge, creator of the material world, was not God but the Archon.

As Plato does, Gnosticism presents a distinction between a supranatural, unknowable reality and the sensible materiality of which the demiurge is creator. However, in contrast to Plato, several systems of Gnostic thought present the Demiurge as antagonistic to the Supreme God: his act of creation either in unconscious and fundamentally flawed imitation of the divine model, or else formed with the malevolent intention of entrapping aspects of the divine in materiality. Thus, in such systems, the Demiurge acts as a solution to the problem of evil. In the Apocryphon of John (several versions of which are found in the Nag Hammadi library), the Demiurge has the name "Yaltabaoth", and proclaims himself as God:

"Now the archon who is weak has three names. The first name is Yaltabaoth, the second is Saklas, and the third is Samael. And he is impious in his arrogance which is in him. For he said, 'I am God and there is no other God beside me,' for he is ignorant of his strength, the place from which he had come."

"Samael", in the Judeo-Christian tradition, refers to the evil angel of death, and corresponds to the Christian demon of that name, one second only to Satan. Literally, it can mean "blind god" or "god of the blind" in Aramaic (Syriac sæmʻa-ʼel); another alternative title is "Saklas", Aramaic for "fool" (Syriac sækla "the foolish one").

Gnostic myth recounts that Sophia (Greek, literally meaning "wisdom"), the Demiurge's mother and a partial aspect of the divine Pleroma or "Fullness", desired to create something apart from the divine totality, and without the receipt of divine assent. In this abortive act of separate creation, she gave birth to the monstrous Demiurge and, being ashamed of her deed, she wrapped him in a cloud and created a throne for him within it. The Demiurge, isolated, did not behold his mother, nor anyone else, and thus concluded that only he himself existed, being ignorant of the superior levels of reality that were his birthplace.

The Gnostic myths describing these events are full of intricate nuances portraying the declination of aspects of the divine into human form; this process occurs through the agency of the Demiurge who, having stolen a portion of power from his mother, sets about a work of creation in unconscious imitation of the superior Pleromatic realm. Thus Sophia's power becomes enclosed within the material forms of humanity, themselves entrapped within the material universe: the goal of Gnostic movements was typically the awakening of this spark, which permitted a return by the subject to the superior, non-material realities which were its primal source.
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Some years ago philosopher and mathematician Dr Nick Bostrom proposed a theory called "The Simulation Hypothesis" where through a short set of reasoning one can conclude that we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation. Various observations in physics seem to support the argument.


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Some years ago philosopher and mathematician Dr Nick Bostrom proposed a theory called "The Simulation Hypothesis" where through a short set of reasoning one can conclude that we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation. Various observations in physics seem to support the argument.


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As abstract & weird that concept is, it is starting to look more & more like this.

The people who have been schooling me in Gnostic & Illumination knowledge (Illumination = Illuminati!!) often use the scenario in "The Matrix" trilogy of movies to explain our situation here in the physical domain.

And no, my name is not Mr. Anderson
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Microposos Macroposos
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As above, so below
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Please hold still so I can cut your hair long
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angels with the power to create. i personally appreciate arcturus. thanks demiurge!
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I've seen the LORD. He is no demiurge.

And, for my trouble; the devil's minions tried to kill me that night.
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What is it/he?

Does it/he rule this world?
 Quoting: Confucius_Say


it rules you as long as you think so
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I've seen the LORD. He is no demiurge.

And, for my trouble; the devil's minions tried to kill me that night.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69087172


Best you finally work out who the devil actually is

you & the rest of the Demiurge/satan worshiping people on this benign planet
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What is it/he?

Does it/he rule this world?
 Quoting: Confucius_Say


it rules you as long as you think so
 Quoting: Senaden2


Hmmm... actually no,

this kind of "if you believe so" mindset is erroneous, you don't need to "believe" in, for example, electricity, for it to work, it does so whether you 'believe' in it or not.





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