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Etymology- True Roots of The Word Messiah-Not what we are Told

 
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Anyone ever broken down the etymology of the word "messiah"?
It does not translate into 'savior' in any language, it means literally "big Star"


'ESSI'-nomative of "ESTER" or "ESTERI"

'MAH'-great, big, or high in sanskrit;also can mean a "hand pressing down"

[link to en.m.wiktionary.org]

[link to en.m.wiktionary.org]



Latin "Messis"= a harvest

[link to en.m.wiktionary.org]

the phrase "ah" can mean an expression of awe, wonder, confusion; a phrase for "I" words
(is also a word for "Beechwood")

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Messiah sounds like mah ass is tired
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The biblical Esther was of course a Persian derived name from the word "stara" that meant "star", the word "ster"is also a word that means star, and it is also the same root of the name "TARA", "TERAH" (Abrams father) and "Torah". IshTar, or AshTorah or Astaroth are also derivatives of this same root word. As is the word EASTER.
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The true root of the word and concept would be found in the Hebrew language and culture where it originated.
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My grandma used to say "you are going to help me shell this MESS of beans I picked"

A mess is a harvest,from the Latin word MESSI (ah)

At Easter, we dont say "a mess of eggs", they are in a "BASKET" (which is like a BassiNET, but for chicks).
The Bastet is the origin of the Basket, the same origin as the name BAST.... and the english word "BEAST"
this is why children were in olde english times called "Beasties"(term used in Maleficent)
[link to en.m.wiktionary.org]

...The Latin Vulgate was dominant in Western Christianity through the Middle Ages, the first English language Bible was produced in the 1380's by John Wycliffe, an it was translated from the Latin Vulgate.


Hoc sibi messis erit, dum dicitur...The harvest is present, the harvest will be

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The biblical Esther was of course a Persian derived name from the word "stara" that meant "star", the word "ster"is also a word that means star, and it is also the same root of the name "TARA", "TERAH" (Abrams father) and "Torah". IshTar, or AshTorah or Astaroth are also derivatives of this same root word. As is the word EASTER.
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I think you'll find the Easter is actually named after Eostre, the Celtic goddess of spring, whose festival (and even the dating of it, related to the lunar cycles) we still follow; it's just been christianized. I'll agree it's quite likely that this has the same deep root relating to stars, though.
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The biblical Esther was of course a Persian derived name from the word "stara" that meant "star", the word "ster"is also a word that means star, and it is also the same root of the name "TARA", "TERAH" (Abrams father) and "Torah". IshTar, or AshTorah or Astaroth are also derivatives of this same root word. As is the word EASTER.
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I think you'll find the Easter is actually named after Eostre, the Celtic goddess of spring, whose festival (and even the dating of it, related to the lunar cycles) we still follow; it's just been christianized. I'll agree it's quite likely that this has the same deep root relating to stars, though.
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Eostre same root, means "star", I agree, and thank you
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Anyone ever broken down the etymology of the word "messiah"?
It does not translate into 'savior' in any language, it means literally "big Star"


'ESSI'-nomative of "ESTER" or "ESTERI"

'MAH'-great, big, or high in sanskrit;also can mean a "hand pressing down"

[link to en.m.wiktionary.org]

[link to en.m.wiktionary.org]



Latin "Messis"= a harvest

[link to en.m.wiktionary.org]

the phrase "ah" can mean an expression of awe, wonder, confusion; a phrase for "I" words
(is also a word for "Beechwood")
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a STAR SEEDed on earth
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There is a hebrew term that is similar to the word messiah, not quite, in fact a word close to messiah is not found in the hebrew portion of the bible.

The which is similar is the word "May-Mah" used in phrases that mean "of the heavens"...and the interesting thing is that terms auch as Mah, maam, mayma, mata, Mtat, mana, and maya are all global terms in use far before Aramaic languages that mean MOTHER. IN fact, it is "HashShamaymah" a hebrew compound word of Maymah that is used in the
Beginning verse of the bible "when god created the heavens and the earth".


[link to biblehub.com]
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i've always heard that Messiah derives from the Egyptian word for the crocodile fat that was melted to anoint new pharoahs.
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There is a hebrew term that is similar to the word messiah, not quite, in fact a word close to messiah is not found in the hebrew portion of the bible.

The which is similar is the word "May-Mah" used in phrases that mean "of the heavens"...and the interesting thing is that terms auch as Mah, maam, mayma, mata, Mtat, mana, and maya are all global terms in use far before Aramaic languages that mean MOTHER. IN fact, it is "HashShamaymah" a hebrew compound word of Maymah that is used in the
Beginning verse of the bible "when god created the heavens and the earth".


[link to biblehub.com]
 Quoting: Sgt T'yeballz

Massa - from the root language
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i've always heard that Messiah derives from the Egyptian word for the crocodile fat that was melted to anoint new pharoahs.
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Interesting!!! because the croc is a keeper of rivers, the nile in egypt. I just happen to have a smilie regarding the ancient symbolism (still perpetuated today in Nimes) of the croc who is chained or roped to the palm tree.

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IN fact, it is "HashShamaymah" a hebrew compound word of Maymah that is used in the
Beginning verse of the bible "when god created the heavens and the earth".
[link to biblehub.com]
 Quoting: Op

Massa - from the root language
 Quoting: paler.


Massa-
Burden, to bear (fruit), to carry, to support, to birth
[link to biblehub.com]


HAM-MASSA
Of the singing or the oracle
[link to biblehub.com]

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Massa-Yah.
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Surprise, surprise!!! Everything about organized religion is a LIE!!! You must beLIEve.
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There are a couple of Hebrew terms that mean "sing", depending on its use, the word Massa comes from the root "NASA" pronounced 'na-saw' to lift or carry away...
(see link above and here whoa!)
[link to biblehub.com]

Ham-massa is being with a group of singers

[link to biblehub.com]

RANAN OR RINNA is the act of a deafening ring, or a ringing cry of singing
[link to biblehub.com]
[link to biblehub.com]

In germanic languages, interesting to note this same word
"RINNA, Rinnana" means "a River, stream, causes to Flow"

[link to en.m.wiktionary.org]

Reminds me of highly energized particles "from the heavens" "flowing like rivers" through our magnetosphere that make the sky rumble, cry and ring.

Ham-massa -thors HAMmer
Atlas bearing the Heavens
Rhiannon Ringing like a Bell...
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Surprise, surprise!!! Everything about organized religion is a LIE!!! You must beLIEve.
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I think its neat to discover how the roots of all languages paint pictures for us...also the truth is not set, there is not one truth there are as many truths as eyes because truth is what our "minds eye" makes it....of course this is dependent on the somebodies having a "minds eye" and not just a sponge that soaks whatever water needs wiping up.

when there are more sponges than eyes, the world seems to turn into a sopping moldy mess.

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Infact english terms like god and lord are supposed english translations of the Hebrew word ALAHYM and YHWH. Gad is a babylonian deity and lord is Baal in Hebrew. Which mean the english translators of Hebrew were playing satanic games and Hebrew words are only Hebrew in origin.
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Surprise, surprise!!! Everything about organized religion is a LIE!!! You must beLIEve.
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I think its neat to discover how the roots of all languages paint pictures for us...also the truth is not set, there is not one truth there are as many truths as eyes because truth is what our "minds eye" makes it....of course this is dependent on the somebodies having a "minds eye" and not just a sponge that soaks whatever water needs wiping up.

when there are more sponges than eyes, the world seems to turn into a sopping moldy mess.
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the original language spoken by all here was the language of the heart, a spoken language before any written one where one spoke from the heart to all things and all beings and all understood, when everything in nature was honoured, a spoken word was like a heart pulse.
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I think its neat to study certain Hebrew Words and see how greek and english and latin translators try to hide satanic intentions in plain sight to fool those who dont study properly. HEBREW IS THE ROCK SOLID LANGUAGE OF CREATION AND TRUTH.
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Surprise, surprise!!! Everything about organized religion is a LIE!!! You must beLIEve.
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I think its neat to discover how the roots of all languages paint pictures for us...also the truth is not set, there is not one truth there are as many truths as eyes because truth is what our "minds eye" makes it....of course this is dependent on the somebodies having a "minds eye" and not just a sponge that soaks whatever water needs wiping up.

when there are more sponges than eyes, the world seems to turn into a sopping moldy mess.
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the original language spoken by all here was the language of the heart, a spoken language before any written one where one spoke from the heart to all things and all beings and all understood, when everything in nature was honoured, a spoken word was like a heart pulse.

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if that were the truth, the world wouldnt be in its current paradigm. Hebrew is the language of creation and still liars gon lie.
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Surprise, surprise!!! Everything about organized religion is a LIE!!! You must beLIEve.
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I think its neat to discover how the roots of all languages paint pictures for us...also the truth is not set, there is not one truth there are as many truths as eyes because truth is what our "minds eye" makes it....of course this is dependent on the somebodies having a "minds eye" and not just a sponge that soaks whatever water needs wiping up.

when there are more sponges than eyes, the world seems to turn into a sopping moldy mess.
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the original language spoken by all here was the language of the heart, a spoken language before any written one where one spoke from the heart to all things and all beings and all understood, when everything in nature was honoured, a spoken word was like a heart pulse.

 Quoting: paler.


Yes, - It sure does question the true meaning of the biblical "tower of babel" story, doesn't it?

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Surprise, surprise!!! Everything about organized religion is a LIE!!! You must beLIEve.
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I think its neat to discover how the roots of all languages paint pictures for us...also the truth is not set, there is not one truth there are as many truths as eyes because truth is what our "minds eye" makes it....of course this is dependent on the somebodies having a "minds eye" and not just a sponge that soaks whatever water needs wiping up.

when there are more sponges than eyes, the world seems to turn into a sopping moldy mess.
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the original language spoken by all here was the language of the heart, a spoken language before any written one where one spoke from the heart to all things and all beings and all understood, when everything in nature was honoured, a spoken word was like a heart pulse.

 Quoting: paler.


Yes, - It sure does question the true meaning of the biblical "tower of babel" story, doesn't it?

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no it doesnt mary jane.
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Surprise, surprise!!! Everything about organized religion is a LIE!!! You must beLIEve.
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I think its neat to discover how the roots of all languages paint pictures for us...also the truth is not set, there is not one truth there are as many truths as eyes because truth is what our "minds eye" makes it....of course this is dependent on the somebodies having a "minds eye" and not just a sponge that soaks whatever water needs wiping up.

when there are more sponges than eyes, the world seems to turn into a sopping moldy mess.
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the original language spoken by all here was the language of the heart, a spoken language before any written one where one spoke from the heart to all things and all beings and all understood, when everything in nature was honoured, a spoken word was like a heart pulse.

 Quoting: paler.


if that were the truth, the world wouldnt be in its current paradigm. Hebrew is the language of creation and still liars gon lie.
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the world is in its STATE, because we forgot our HEART :)
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watch how they ignore the truth like it dont exist.
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I think its neat to discover how the roots of all languages paint pictures for us...also the truth is not set, there is not one truth there are as many truths as eyes because truth is what our "minds eye" makes it....of course this is dependent on the somebodies having a "minds eye" and not just a sponge that soaks whatever water needs wiping up.

when there are more sponges than eyes, the world seems to turn into a sopping moldy mess.
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the original language spoken by all here was the language of the heart, a spoken language before any written one where one spoke from the heart to all things and all beings and all understood, when everything in nature was honoured, a spoken word was like a heart pulse.

 Quoting: paler.


if that were the truth, the world wouldnt be in its current paradigm. Hebrew is the language of creation and still liars gon lie.
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the world is in its STATE, because we forgot our HEART :)
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the "heart" as you explain is a vague term. The truth is specific.
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the original language spoken by all here was the language of the heart, a spoken language before any written one where one spoke from the heart to all things and all beings and all understood, when everything in nature was honoured, a spoken word was like a heart pulse.

 Quoting: paler.


if that were the truth, the world wouldnt be in its current paradigm. Hebrew is the language of creation and still liars gon lie.
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the world is in its STATE, because we forgot our HEART :)
 Quoting: paler.


the "heart" as you explain is a vague term. The truth is specific.
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the Heart is a vague term if you don't know it in Truth,

i leave you with your specifics, your religion and beliefs, have a nice day :)
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Moshiach is the word you should be breaking down. Moshe means deliverer.
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Anyone ever broken down the etymology of the word "messiah"?
It does not translate into 'savior' in any language, it means literally "big Star"


'ESSI'-nomative of "ESTER" or "ESTERI"

'MAH'-great, big, or high in sanskrit;also can mean a "hand pressing down"

[link to en.m.wiktionary.org]

[link to en.m.wiktionary.org]



Latin "Messis"= a harvest

[link to en.m.wiktionary.org]

the phrase "ah" can mean an expression of awe, wonder, confusion; a phrase for "I" words
(is also a word for "Beechwood")
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This is amazing if I can verify something. Is the timestamp of your post at 9:00am UTC or some other time zone? I guess I will know when I post this.

What is amazing is that about an hour and a half before your post I was offline and headed to bed and had a thought about the word messiah as I had come across it years before. It was a random thought and I don't remember seeing the word yesterday.

What is also amazing is that this kind of event happens more than once daily while here, I'm trying to step back and figure out how.

I know I did not search on the word because I thought of it well after shutting down so that rules out some cross-site hack where my searches are known. That also kind of rules out Google being part of this site which was one of my theories. Was thinking maybe they were using search data and youtube histories to present thread subjects and persona postings. But this clearly rules that out.

Was some Scalar Fourier Tranform bouncing around that both of us interpreted as "messiah"? Was it natural or created by HARP maybe?

Was it some other non-local entanglement where we had the same thought?

Any other ideas to try and explain this?

I'm not freaked out just extremely fascinated by this.
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Ok so my posting shows that the post time is eastern time zone so no way I would have seen this post before shutting down.





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