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The questioning has gotten very invasive. My dr is personally irritated by the new law, and said that I wouldn't believe the crap it is requiring behind the scenes that we don't even know about. That is scary in itself. I still have not been asked about guns yet, but I'm sure it's coming. My answer will be, with all due respect, NOYB.
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Well, Angelina is not the best for depopulation propaganda: she has 7 or 8 children.

Also, cutting organs can't be a way to depopulate. It's an expensive practice and can't be used in third world where they need it more. In sum: you can't depopulate using surgery.

Vaccines and bad medicines are better.
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This is such a great thread!!

I'm on a younger end of this story - in my childbearing years, currently pregnant with my 4th. I worked in for a private practice OB for several years about a decade ago and saw first hand the amount of drug pushing that goes on. That was frustrating.

I have many "war stories" from years of trying to fight for the kind of pregnancy and birth care that I need/want. But those are personal...and long. I can say that this time especially I am getting a lot of pressure over my decision to decline genetic testing, decline routine ultrasound and my expressed intention to NOT have surgical sterilization following the birth of my fourth child. While we expect this will be our last child, I do not intend to surgically alter my body, or my husband's, to satisfy that intent. Nor do I plan on subjecting my body to pharmaceutical birth control or devices (IUDs, implants, etc). We've planned our family successfully with fertility awareness methods and plan to continue doing so.

Here's what I have found works best for seeking routine and non-routine medical care for non-urgent problems. GO OUTSIDE THE SYSTEM.
- If you do not have significant pre-existing conditions (like diabetes or auto-immune issues, etc), sign up for a health sharing "ministry." There are some that require membership in a church (Samaritan ministries and I think Medishare do) and others that don't (Liberty Health doesn't and I know there are a few others).
- Look for a naturopathic practice, call them and ask for a referral to an MD that they like to work with (someone who will automatically be more likely to be open to alternative, non-pharmaceutical treatment approaches). I found an absolutely *amazing* MD who does house calls this way. Sadly she does not provide prenatal care, but I plan on continuing to use her as my primary care and will be taking my older daughter to her soon. She does not bill insurance. She is strictly fee-for-service and you can seek reimbursement from your insurance, or, in my case, healthshare (which covers one annual exam per year at 100% regardless of who the doctor is).
- You can research your issues, find out what lab tests you need to order and order them online through a service like Direct Labs. It's much cheaper than going through the hospital system.
- You could consider Chinese medicine - acupuncture especially. I know a lot of people who have had considerable success with that for a variety of issues (including my husband).

Long post to add to the pile - but I am so glad to see other women talking about this.
And you're right - it's not just Obamacare, it's been going on for a long time. And IMO many female doctors are just as guilty of that condescending, paternalistic attitude toward their patients as their male counterparts. The "study" of medicine in general contributes to this attitude. It's a special club of the
"educated" elite and you're not in it unless you have some special initials after your name. I don't think it has as much to do with "women's lib" (it's quite the opposite actually) as it does with top-down social control of every minute detail of your life. Abortion and access to pharmaceutical birth control DOES NOT EQUAL feminism or freedom of choice or any kind of freedom at all.


Best of luck. <3
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These are personal things, I do not really feel comfortable telling, but whatever.


This was the first time I had seen this doctor. I thought I chose a good one, she was a women, I felt she had trusting eyes. I went in for Ovarian pain, which is really a struggle during certain times of the month. Back in 2010, my left ovary swelled to 20.4cm, in comparison to the Right ovary being about 4cm, this is a huge amount of swelling. The pain has gradually increased again the last few months, so I scheduled to a doctor about this.

This new doctor, after talking to her for 2 minutes asked if I was on birth control or hormone treatment, I said no. I was thrown for a loop when she acted almost appalled that I was not on birth control. She then began to ask a series of questions as to why I am not taking birth control, invasive questions. Like it was unbelievable to her that I was not taking birth control for some reason or another. Everyone takes Bc she says. She then relayed the general protocol for less invasive treatment of ovarian problems, Hormone treatment via birth control. I then relayed to her that Birth control is known to cause cancer, heart disease, and an onslaught of other secondary illnesses. I also told her that a friend of mine went on birth control to treat the same condition, and she ended up in the hospital with Menorrhagia, extreme blood loss. The doctor immediately changed, got upset, and said "this is debated within the professional medical community and there is no consensus that says birth control is the cause of any illness...birth control is the course of treatment for people with hormonal problems".

(and the way she said "people with hormonal problems was not said like a professional, it was said with a spiteful bitch like tone).

She then said that if I didn't want to take birth control, I could have my ovaries removed.

It really angered me that all of this is being recommended without so much as a pelvic exam, or a recent pelvic ultrasound,a urine test,or any kind of blood test to check FSH levels, which would point to a Thyroid or endocrine problem. Immediately, like any good Women's LIB Feminist would, she tells me to go on birth control, and remove my ovaries, and that she also needs to make sure that I don't have any breast problems!

Of course I then tell her that I like my ovaries, and I like my hormones, I just don't like painful ovulation, I am looking for a more natural less invasive course of treatment, and if you can not help me with that, then I must be at the wrong place!
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I'm going to address something that you may not like to hear.

Corporatism was started by Conservatives. The insistence of a Corporatized US is held up by Conservatives.

There is nothing Liberal or Socialistic at all about a Corporation in the least, especially Corporatized Medicine.

Liberal or Socialistic would instead be free Health Care paid for by the government.

Now, another thing.

If you want to keep your health stay away from Allopathic Corporatized Medicine and study Alternative Health.
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Corporatized Health Care is for profit Health Care. This is the Conservative model.
This is why they are doing so many unnecessary procedures is for profit.

Now a true Liberal Socialistic Health Care model would be the government paying for Health care,
they would pay all the Heath Care bills.

Now if the government paid the Health Care bills you wouldn't find doctors doing unnecessary procedures
because the money would be coming out of the government pocket (so to speak)

And we can't have that, you know? 1rof1

Of course now this country has let in every type of ILLEGAL and whatnot,
who IMO shouldn't be here getting any benefits, so now it's a mess,
along with all of our tax dollars going to defense spending etc. What a nightmare.

It's almost too late to clean up.
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There is nothing Liberal or Socialistic at all about a Corporation in the least, especially Corporatized Medicine.

Liberal or Socialistic would instead be free Health Care paid for by the government.

Now, another thing.

If you want to keep your health stay away from Allopathic Corporatized Medicine and study Alternative Health.
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I do study homeopathic herbal treatments, I have for years, but I am not a doctor, I know there are some herbal hormonal treatments like vervain, and black cohash roots, I do drink lots of teas, and I have changed some things in my diet, I admit I could do better than I do. Still, the doctor's practice of care was outright draconian, the facility is corporate and wants to treat us all the same, and they are overpaid, and we are overcharged.


There is a big difference in Corporatized medicine and corporations.

We are humans, not products. Products can all be treated the same, and the result will rarely deviate or be different on a case to case basis. As humans, the same or similar illness can be treated in various ways depending on the unique body chemistry of that human being. We are individuals, and each of us have specific needs for our own body, needs that may not be outlined in the general treatment for a specific illness. Corporate hospitals have to follow a specific outline regarding treatment for certain illnesses.

This present medical authority will fail if it continues to categorically lump us all into "boxes" of pre-determined treatments and specified protocols...It fail to cure anyone, it will fail to keep people well, it will fail in that all of its patients will die, and they will run out of willing patients eventually. They demand that we participate in these corrupt practices. In this present system, big corporations do consider us as both a product and a consumer, this is the issue.

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here is what I want to know about women's health care. almost every woman I know who has gotten pregnant in the past 15 years has been told there was something wrong with the baby go kill the baby. all the babies are here in perfect health because none of us were stupid enough to fall for it
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Op you have a point.

There is a lot of emphasis in these areas but its for a reason its necessary.

peace
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This is such a great thread!!

I'm on a younger end of this story - in my childbearing years, currently pregnant with my 4th. I worked in for a private practice OB for several years about a decade ago and saw first hand the amount of drug pushing that goes on. That was frustrating.

I have many "war stories" from years of trying to fight for the kind of pregnancy and birth care that I need/want. But those are personal...and long. I can say that this time especially I am getting a lot of pressure over my decision to decline genetic testing, decline routine ultrasound and my expressed intention to NOT have surgical sterilization following the birth of my fourth child. While we expect this will be our last child, I do not intend to surgically alter my body, or my husband's, to satisfy that intent. Nor do I plan on subjecting my body to pharmaceutical birth control or devices (IUDs, implants, etc). We've planned our family successfully with fertility awareness methods and plan to continue doing so.

Here's what I have found works best for seeking routine and non-routine medical care for non-urgent problems. GO OUTSIDE THE SYSTEM.
- If you do not have significant pre-existing conditions (like diabetes or auto-immune issues, etc), sign up for a health sharing "ministry." There are some that require membership in a church (Samaritan ministries and I think Medishare do) and others that don't (Liberty Health doesn't and I know there are a few others).
- Look for a naturopathic practice, call them and ask for a referral to an MD that they like to work with (someone who will automatically be more likely to be open to alternative, non-pharmaceutical treatment approaches). I found an absolutely *amazing* MD who does house calls this way. Sadly she does not provide prenatal care, but I plan on continuing to use her as my primary care and will be taking my older daughter to her soon. She does not bill insurance. She is strictly fee-for-service and you can seek reimbursement from your insurance, or, in my case, healthshare (which covers one annual exam per year at 100% regardless of who the doctor is).
- You can research your issues, find out what lab tests you need to order and order them online through a service like Direct Labs. It's much cheaper than going through the hospital system.
- You could consider Chinese medicine - acupuncture especially. I know a lot of people who have had considerable success with that for a variety of issues (including my husband).

Long post to add to the pile - but I am so glad to see other women talking about this.
And you're right - it's not just Obamacare, it's been going on for a long time. And IMO many female doctors are just as guilty of that condescending, paternalistic attitude toward their patients as their male counterparts. The "study" of medicine in general contributes to this attitude. It's a special club of the
"educated" elite and you're not in it unless you have some special initials after your name. I don't think it has as much to do with "women's lib" (it's quite the opposite actually) as it does with top-down social control of every minute detail of your life. Abortion and access to pharmaceutical birth control DOES NOT EQUAL feminism or freedom of choice or any kind of freedom at all.


Best of luck. <3
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Thank you for sharing this... share some more if you want...these stories need to be heard. one question, is it recommended by doctors that women be sterilized after the 4th child?

I have heard a few of my male friends say that they are told to have vasectomies also.

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here is what I want to know about women's health care. almost every woman I know who has gotten pregnant in the past 15 years has been told there was something wrong with the baby go kill the baby. all the babies are here in perfect health because none of us were stupid enough to fall for it
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this goes back to planned parenthood.

Margaret Sanger, the goal to eradicate 'bad stock'.
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Instead of shooting a gun in one direction, they let the entire medical authority lock and load with bird shot, and now 80 years, we are all getting hit!
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Insurance companies are FOR PROFIT. The hospitals and doctors are owned by the insurance companies now.. It is going to get worse not better. If they are not yet owned, they will get squeezed out of business by lower and lower reimbursements. Once the insurance companies have vertically consolidated healthcare , they will squeeze your last penny from you. Don't blame your doctor, they are pawns in the game. Also, if they get to get get and strike for better payment from the insurance companies to remain independent, it's against the law
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I have two words: Pap smears and prostate exams
They are making Billions off these two procedures, which are paid for yearly by most carriers.

papsmear

pretty soon if something isn't done they will be asking
4 year olds to get mammograms, considering that children for some reason are menstruating as early as age 8 now because of the hormones in the food, this may in truth be part of their agenda all along...to change the entire evolutionary and biological course of the human race.
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...
By middle age or older most women have lost the man they depended upon (divorce and death)

Noone you call(police) or go see (doctor)has any more interest in your taking another breath.

The banksters just keep you alive to make money off of.
...
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This raises a relevant point. Married people have the best health.

Often it's divorce and often that was initiated by the woman. Guy just isn't exciting any more, he isn't providing as much money as he used to, whatever, but divorce is usually initiated by the woman and often it's what she feels like rather than what she needs, and honoring her vows.

There's a certain amount of just desserts here, in many cases. Ladies, reconsider if you really want to kick your husband out. He may actually love you -- at least until you kick him out.
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Well, Angelina is not the best for depopulation propaganda: she has 7 or 8 children.

Also, cutting organs can't be a way to depopulate. It's an expensive practice and can't be used in third world where they need it more. In sum: you can't depopulate using surgery.

Vaccines and bad medicines are better.
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She's all about depopulating our population rather than the third world population! Many or most of her kids are adopted kids from Africa. She's pushing some sort of sexual ambiguity on them, unless that's a different celebrity (I get them all mixed up because I don't give a shit about any of them.) And she's pushing a depop method that would seem to be for here: women have expensive surgery to take out their own reproductive ability.
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I have two words: Pap smears and prostate exams
They are making Billions off these two procedures, which are paid for yearly by most carriers.

:papsmear:

pretty soon if something isn't done they will be asking
4 year olds to get mammograms, considering that children for some reason are menstruating as early as age 8 now because of the hormones in the food, this may in truth be part of their agenda all along...to change the entire evolutionary and biological course of the human race.
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This doctor told me I should get a hysterectomy when I was 20, but I said screw that and started doing research on alternative medicine instead. Whatever problem that was there fixed itself, and I learned a lot about natural medicine and the power of our minds over our circumstances, including the health of our bodies.
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Well, Angelina is not the best for depopulation propaganda: she has 7 or 8 children.

Also, cutting organs can't be a way to depopulate. It's an expensive practice and can't be used in third world where they need it more. In sum: you can't depopulate using surgery.

Vaccines and bad medicines are better.
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She's all about depopulating our population rather than the third world population! Many or most of her kids are adopted kids from Africa. She's pushing some sort of sexual ambiguity on them, unless that's a different celebrity (I get them all mixed up because I don't give a shit about any of them.) And she's pushing a depop method that would seem to be for here: women have expensive surgery to take out their own reproductive ability.
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All of her children are adopted from foreign countries except the twins I believe, they are hers.

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I have two words: Pap smears and prostate exams
They are making Billions off these two procedures, which are paid for yearly by most carriers.

:papsmear:

pretty soon if something isn't done they will be asking
4 year olds to get mammograms, considering that children for some reason are menstruating as early as age 8 now because of the hormones in the food, this may in truth be part of their agenda all along...to change the entire evolutionary and biological course of the human race.
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The early puberty is extreme now. And pushing Gardasil on girls (and boys just because it's unfair if boys can avoid it, but that's such a weak argument it probably won't hold up.)

I had symptoms of slight prostate enlargement in my mid 40's -- more frequently needed to pee. I took Arginine + Ornithine because it causes the body to release ITS OWN HGH that the pituitary is still making, but that gets bottled up. Sure enough, my prostate shrank back and I lost the symptoms. When I had to pee frequently again a few years later, Arginine + Ornithine fixed it again. Haven't had that recently.

This may help with some female aging things too, or not, I have no idea and obviously I can't do the experiment. :)
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I find it interesting that back in January when there was the Disney measles outbreak, the doctors and scientists were out in force against any studies or information that the anti-vaccine people wanted to discuss. The MSM made any anti-vaccine believers look like nutters.

Now we have an actress who is continuing to surgically remove parts of her anatomy and reproductive organs, and she and her story are being promoted far and wide. Where are the doctors and scientists who should urge caution against such drastic measures because someone "might" someday get cancer.

While I believe everyone should have the freedom to make their own medical choices regarding vaccines and elective surgeries, the doctors and scientists are very inconsistent with regard to who and what they support. It seems easy to see how one agenda is supported and another is suppressed.
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These are personal things, I do not really feel comfortable telling, but whatever.


This was the first time I had seen this doctor. I thought I chose a good one, she was a women, I felt she had trusting eyes. I went in for Ovarian pain, which is really a struggle during certain times of the month. Back in 2010, my left ovary swelled to 20.4cm, in comparison to the Right ovary being about 4cm, this is a huge amount of swelling. The pain has gradually increased again the last few months, so I scheduled to a doctor about this.

This new doctor, after talking to her for 2 minutes asked if I was on birth control or hormone treatment, I said no. I was thrown for a loop when she acted almost appalled that I was not on birth control. She then began to ask a series of questions as to why I am not taking birth control, invasive questions. Like it was unbelievable to her that I was not taking birth control for some reason or another. Everyone takes Bc she says. She then relayed the general protocol for less invasive treatment of ovarian problems, Hormone treatment via birth control. I then relayed to her that Birth control is known to cause cancer, heart disease, and an onslaught of other secondary illnesses. I also told her that a friend of mine went on birth control to treat the same condition, and she ended up in the hospital with Menorrhagia, extreme blood loss. The doctor immediately changed, got upset, and said "this is debated within the professional medical community and there is no consensus that says birth control is the cause of any illness...birth control is the course of treatment for people with hormonal problems".

(and the way she said "people with hormonal problems was not said like a professional, it was said with a spiteful bitch like tone).

She then said that if I didn't want to take birth control, I could have my ovaries removed.

It really angered me that all of this is being recommended without so much as a pelvic exam, or a recent pelvic ultrasound,a urine test,or any kind of blood test to check FSH levels, which would point to a Thyroid or endocrine problem. Immediately, like any good Women's LIB Feminist would, she tells me to go on birth control, and remove my ovaries, and that she also needs to make sure that I don't have any breast problems!

Of course I then tell her that I like my ovaries, and I like my hormones, I just don't like painful ovulation, I am looking for a more natural less invasive course of treatment, and if you can not help me with that, then I must be at the wrong place!
 Quoting: Sgt T'yeballz


I'm going to address something that you may not like to hear.

Corporatism was started by Conservatives. The insistence of a Corporatized US is held up by Conservatives.

There is nothing Liberal or Socialistic at all about a Corporation in the least, especially Corporatized Medicine.

Liberal or Socialistic would instead be free Health Care paid for by the government.

Now, another thing.

If you want to keep your health stay away from Allopathic Corporatized Medicine and study Alternative Health.
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From all my experience, there's a point at which 'high' corporatism and 'high' socialism merge to become synonymous.

It seems to be about profit, but I believe that it's really about power and control - tools that both conservatives and socialists work very hard to gain.

Just look at Reps/Dems and Lab/Lib/Con...there is hardly anything between them, strip away all the votecatcher soundbites and bluster fundamentally they all want 1. power and 2. to make lots of money because of their political connections.

Generally speaking, this is exactly the problem facing the West. In particular, I can't think of ANY Western nation where the gvt has provided free healthcare. Not a one.

Miscalled 'free' healthcare is always heavily paid for through taxes to which all contribute. (Except of course in rare countries like Cuba, USSR, and possibly China and N Korea)
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Kelly Osbourne reveals she has same high cancer risk as Angelina Jolie
3/25/15

Kelly Osbourne says she plans to remove her ovaries like Angelina Jolie one day - and the two celebrities share more than just the gene mutation that put them at high risk of breast and ovarian cancer.

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