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My Thoughts After Experience With Corporatized Women's Medical Clinic

 
Sgt T'yeballz  (OP)

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Disagree

I had several great female doctors and some really lousy male doctors.

Depends on the person.

Also this person keeps stressing the LIB FEMINAZI
point.

Is that you Rush???

Although I'm quite conservative - Remember Rush way back when and all he could do was call women Feminazi's.
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hahhah, i didn't say feminazi, i said "women's lib"...Rush is like the the feminazi's older brother, his job is to stir their pot and keep them riled and in attack mode. seriously, don't be deceived.
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What about those creepy surveys they send you after your visits? Supposed to be what you thought about the service you received, but there are always a few questions thrown in here and there about personal things. I even had one that asked about my mental health.

Question 5.How long do you have to wait to see the Dr.?

Question 6. Have you ever been prescribed an antidepressant?

Question 7. Was the bathroom clean?

Question 8. Do you or have you ever used illegal drugs?
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OP - Very sorry for your experience and thank you for sharing.

Unfortunately it sounds like the doctor only has one or two diagnosis/treatments for WOMEN YOUR AGE -and you thought you were a unique individual with individual treatment needs.

FIND A NATUROPATH!
Or alternative practicioner -doctors are RETIRING to escape this robotic practice that tells them what they must do.

I found an alternative practice and had a nurse practitioner that was very caring and personal -and yet ordered ALL THE TESTS -so I could get a baseline.

Turns out the hormones (nurse prescribed estrogen and progesterone -BIODENTICAL from a compounding Pharmacy)I took for months did NOTHING and my issues WENT AWAY over the next two years.

My vitamin D was super low and I take that now.

The Menopausal Years is a good book-and others by Susan Weed.

[link to www.amazon.com]

Also Dr HULDA CLARK -everything.
[link to www.amazon.com]

You are just a profit center for big medicine now.

Dr Mercola newsletter - [link to www.mercola.com]

Dr Fuchs [link to pharmacistben.com]
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Great advice...just don't ever tell any doctor that bills your insurance company that you are seeing, or have ever seen, a naturopath! Insurance companies can deny claims for conditions that were previously treated by non-medically-accepted practices, herbs, or practitioners, unless that practitioner has an MD and their course of treatment is "approved" by the insurance company.
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You are correct. And they have a name: "Accountable Care Organizations".
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vaccines laced with viruses+trans fat and sugar time = DISEASE


you can't do much avout the vaccines but the junk food that triggers the viruses to go live you can stop eating

the amount of nutrients in factory farmed food has been cut by 3/4 so organic or locally farmed is a must

op you have an enterovirus infection. eat healthy for a year, take multivitamin 3 times a day and high dose vitamin C it will clear up
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Oh now I see all the emphasis on eating healthy. Because once people have all those vaccines in them, their health is fragile and they have to be very careful. In my parents' day, people ate whatever the hell they wanted. In my family, we're moderatly lucky (like most people) and lived long lives, never an illness because we liked cheeseburgers more than arugula.

You CAN do something about the vaccines. Just say no. All states (or all but one or two, not sure) have religious exemptions available that will allow your children to go to school unvaccinated.
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There is also a weird condescending attitude from those nurses & doctors working in these offices. They seem to treat women like they have the mentality of a five year-old.
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Thanks for sharing your experiences....
I noticed what you say also...it was never the case before, I have had good experiences at doctors previously. They were all giving me "the look" when I was herded into "the designated check out area". I must have given them all something to talk about.
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Thanks OP. Something else women should know, most doctor's wives never use any hormonal contraceptives. I had an old school awesome OB/GYN who has since retired. He knew that I was always against any type of unnecessary meds. I used the rhythym method to get pregnant and had an IUD after my last child. My OB was the one who told me that most doctors wives used an IUD to stay away from the hormone contraceptives. I have since heard this same thing from other doctors and fheir wives for years.
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Really? You think the government is collecting for targeted advertising? Nope government anything is always about control.

Nudging you into the correct behavior. If they can't nudge, they'll shove.

You smoke? No treatment for cancer.

You drink? No liver transplant.

You depressed? No guns.


ok so that makes some sense but at the same time us could just not get cancer or liver damage and there's always ways to get a gun.

But anyways cigarettes should be illegal drinking should be done in moderation and guns well like i said before.


These are just examples. You can take it as far as you like. Don't get a flu shot? You won't be allowed to see a doctor. Dont get the chip? Your children won't get that broken arm fixed. Like the commercial I posted. They kept calling a lady to get her yearly physical. That's harassment to me.

As far as cigarettes and drinking I personally don't do either, but I don't think the government should be allowed to punish me if I do. If they were that worried about it, why not just pull them off the market?

And I hate to say it but most honest people wouldn't even know where to go to find a gun. Can you picture some 70 year old widow heading over to the hood?

ABOVE IS QUOTED MATERIAL QUOTES NOT WORKING

Are you stinkin' kidding me?

GUNS ARE NOT ILLEGAL!!! We still have the second amendment and idiots like you should be thankful because you just might be standing behind someone with a gun to save your idiot ass one day.

GUNS were until recently SOLD AT WAL-MART!!! (everywhere)

GUNS are STILL sold at Gander Mountain, Dicks sporting goods, Bass Pro shops, Cabela's etc.

My grandma has a shotgun and whoa to the person that threatens her door.

There are over 20,000 LAWS on gun usage in these United States and we don't need any more.

Obviously, criminals have decided not to heed them haha what a surprise.

Do you think ALL prescription drugs should be illegal because drug addicts -criminals- refuse to obey the laws?

Responsible people everywhere still have their WALMART guns and you never hear about it-so STFU if you know nothing.

Its not a go to the hood (racist remark) thing.

This is the perfect thread to post this-because just like the FemiNazis the OP is complaining about -you know nothing "ladies" need to wake up and smell self-defense.

YOU are responsible for your healthcare and your LIFE.
By middle age or older most women have lost the man they depended upon (divorce and death)

Noone you call(police) or go see (doctor)has any more interest in your taking another breath.

The banksters just keep you alive to make money off of.

If TSHTF(theshithitsthefan)and WROL (withoutruleoflaw) EVER happens-(from sunspots -EMP-Nuke-economic collapse-hurricanes-etc)

YOU better be the responsible adult for your body and your life.

GRANNY GET YOUR GUN!!!

Ladies are the best shots too!
See these Olympic Ladies SKEET shoot!
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The politics of birth control, 1920-1940: the impact of professionals.
Gordon L.
Abstract

"Before the 1920s, a birth control movement arose in the United States out of socialist, feminist, and other radical groups concerned with women's rights and sexual freedom. After 1920 the birth control movement became gradually transformed into a respectable, nonradical reform cause, the recipient of large grants from big business, with women's rights secondary to an overriding concern with medical health and population control.
PMID:1102468
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


Thousands of women see themselves as part of the Women's Rights movement; a vaguely defined "women's consciousness"...

It irritates me beyond sense that "women's liberation" "women's consciousness" and "women's rights" in general are all primarily based on the idea that contraception is good for everything, abortion is better, and that removing a women's ovaries and giving her steroids is an ultimate achievement of some kind.

This is not the type of consciousness as woman or a human being that I want to be a part of, I do not support it, it does not make me an anti-feminist,or anti-women's rights, I believe that women are being targeted for all types of experimental treatments and procedures due to their ability to bare children, and that most are falling prey to medical authority in this regard.

They have been parading angelina jolie on the media all morning, saying that other women are "following in her footsteps", and it apparent that angelina jolie starves her self half to death and is on a number of medications and/or drugs just to deal with life and her health in general. I do not view her as a healthy woman, and to be like her is not what I would define as an ideal of female liberation.

There is not yet a consensus which agrees that removing a women's ovaries or breasts will extend her life, or increase her health, that taking steroids or additional hormones will make her more functional.
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It's a sort of IQ test.

Those who follow the crowd, those who want to be like Ms. Jolie and think that removing their ovaries will make this happen -- fail. I hate to say my mother was a bit like this, she got her annual flu vaccination, and she died earlier than she had to from dementia.

Do we even know for sure that Ms. Jolie actually had her ovaries removed? I haven't even noticed the flat chest she should have now. It makes me think of Magic Johnson getting HIV. Somehow he's survived much better than any actual HIV patient we've ever seen, and now he's back in the public eye and forgetting all about his HIV. Supposedly among black people, many believe he never had HIV, but he was probably paid off with his great post-playing career for supporting the gay agenda this way.

It's a real-life IQ test. Those who follow the crowd will degenerate and, especially for women, not reproduce. Those who see it for what it is and find a better way will pass their genes on and become old grandmothers to see it happen.
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Your rant is valid. I saw it years ago too. I had to go to free clinic and my BP and cholesterol was super high. They waited until my BP went down then wrote that number down, and passed out their free birth control pills. Oh, and told me to watch my diet. Luckily they didn't have cholesterol pills back then, or they would have fed them to me too.

There agenda is obvious. It is population control. I really wonder if Angelina Jolie even had the surgery or just being a poster child for cutting out all your reproductive organs. I never heard of something so insane in my life.

The older I get the more I see you don't need to rush to doctor for every problem. They are not miracle workers. They are heavily influenced by big pharma and others.
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Good point, we don't know if she really had her ovaries removed, she is just an actress!

Thanks for your enlightening thoughts...just a test, I wonder how many have had their breasts and ovaries removed, this can't be healthy, unless a person is already extremely unhealthy, then I don't think removing ovaries and breasts would really matter.... I would imagine if they are so unhealthy that their ovaries and breasts require legitimate removal, it's not long before the rest of the body starts to fail.
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The politics of birth control, 1920-1940: the impact of professionals.
Gordon L.
Abstract

"Before the 1920s, a birth control movement arose in the United States out of socialist, feminist, and other radical groups concerned with women's rights and sexual freedom. After 1920 the birth control movement became gradually transformed into a respectable, nonradical reform cause, the recipient of large grants from big business, with women's rights secondary to an overriding concern with medical health and population control.
PMID:1102468
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]


Thousands of women see themselves as part of the Women's Rights movement; a vaguely defined "women's consciousness"...

It irritates me beyond sense that "women's liberation" "women's consciousness" and "women's rights" in general are all primarily based on the idea that contraception is good for everything, abortion is better, and that removing a women's ovaries and giving her steroids is an ultimate achievement of some kind.

This is not the type of consciousness as woman or a human being that I want to be a part of, I do not support it, it does not make me an anti-feminist,or anti-women's rights, I believe that women are being targeted for all types of experimental treatments and procedures due to their ability to bare children, and that most are falling prey to medical authority in this regard.

They have been parading angelina jolie on the media all morning, saying that other women are "following in her footsteps", and it apparent that angelina jolie starves her self half to death and is on a number of medications and/or drugs just to deal with life and her health in general. I do not view her as a healthy woman, and to be like her is not what I would define as an ideal of female liberation.

There is not yet a consensus which agrees that removing a women's ovaries or breasts will extend her life, or increase her health, that taking steroids or additional hormones will make her more functional.
 Quoting: Sgt T'yeballz

What Angelina needs is a shrink & not surgery. I am disgusted with her, because she is now influencing women to go get a marker test that may or may not produce accurate results & then they will be persuaded to go for the surgeries. This is nothing short of butchering a women's body. Furthermore, we have no way of knowing that they are not lying on the test results to further their agenda.

Many of us knew back in the days when they announced that they have completed the genome program, that one day, they would use it against, & we were right. So here we are, the new medicne is remove your organs, eventhough you have not actually developed any cancer, as in the case of Angelina.

A female Dr. was quoted on an interview yesterday as saying that the side effects of this surgery would be increase risk of heart disease & bone disease (I presume she meant osteoporosis) So where does Angelina win on this, she doesn't & the fact is she could still get colon cancer or pancreatic cancer anyway.
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There agenda is obvious. It is population control. I really wonder if Angelina Jolie even had the surgery or just being a poster child for cutting out all your reproductive organs. I never heard of something so insane in my life.

The older I get the more I see you don't need to rush to doctor for every problem. They are not miracle workers. They are heavily influenced by big pharma and others.
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Interesting observation about Angelina, we can't forget her connection as a UN Ambassador. What better way to promote support for an agenda, and promote it worldwide with a beautiful well known woman. Let's say someone like Janet Reno had these same procedure done. Would anyone care, would it be promoted via all the MSM outlets like it is with Angelina.
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Good point, we don't know if she really had her ovaries removed, she is just an actress!

Thanks for your enlightening thoughts...just a test, I wonder how many have had their breasts and ovaries removed, this can't be healthy, unless a person is already extremely unhealthy, then I don't think removing ovaries and breasts would really matter.... I would imagine if they are so unhealthy that their ovaries and breasts require legitimate removal, it's not long before the rest of the body starts to fail.
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Dr's do not take into account that all organs in the body are connected to each other in a symbiotic pattern that is crucial to its well being and health. When one organ is diseased or removed, it affects the functioning of the entire body.

It has crossed my mind that Angelina may be being paid handsomely to be their agent for these surgeries, but she herself may in fact have not had there surgeries. Maybe she has to go along with it, if she wants to keep her lifestyle & do the movies she wants to do. Hollywood success has it's price & it does make me wonder about her.
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There agenda is obvious. It is population control. I really wonder if Angelina Jolie even had the surgery or just being a poster child for cutting out all your reproductive organs. I never heard of something so insane in my life.

The older I get the more I see you don't need to rush to doctor for every problem. They are not miracle workers. They are heavily influenced by big pharma and others.
 Quoting: Shasta 58088371


Interesting observation about Angelina, we can't forget her connection as a UN Ambassador. What better way to promote support for an agenda, and promote it worldwide with a beautiful well known woman. Let's say someone like Janet Reno had these same procedure done. Would anyone care, would it be promoted via all the MSM outlets like it is with Angelina.
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UN and population control, WHO, world health organization You Got it!
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Names altered on paper, turns our name into a 'trade name'...a "doing business as" name.

Financial industry Example:
*Jane Doe on paper, identifies a natural individual.
*JANE DOE on paper, identifies a trade name (business name).

Medical industry example:
Doe, Jane on paper, identifies a trade name (business name).


So when JANE DOE and Doe, Jane is billed...it looks like the Financial and medical industries are billing individual Businesses rather than natural individuals.

This is how they are able to charge fees and taxes and other costs to you, the natural living individual...by making your name look like a Business/Company name that you are working for.

Looking like individual Businesses is why everyone's paychecks are being recorded the same as Business profits---> income.
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What about those creepy surveys they send you after your visits? Supposed to be what you thought about the service you received, but there are always a few questions thrown in here and there about personal things. I even had one that asked about my mental health.

Question 5.How long do you have to wait to see the Dr.?

Question 6. Have you ever been prescribed an antidepressant?

Question 7. Was the bathroom clean?

Question 8. Do you or have you ever used illegal drugs?
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Answer to q8: See 5th amendment to the US Constitution!
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Names altered on paper, turns our name into a 'trade name'...a "doing business as" name.

Financial industry Example:
*Jane Doe on paper, identifies a natural individual.
*JANE DOE on paper, identifies a trade name (business name).

Medical industry example:
Doe, Jane on paper, identifies a trade name (business name).


So when JANE DOE and Doe, Jane is billed...it looks like the Financial and medical industries are billing individual Businesses rather than natural individuals.

This is how they are able to charge fees and taxes and other costs to you, the natural living individual...by making your name look like a Business/Company name that you are working for.

Looking like individual Businesses is why everyone's paychecks are being recorded the same as Business profits---> income.
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Some VERY smart people on here.

OK, so what do we do about it?

Have you any suggestions?

We all all learning how it works.

How does it change?
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Names altered on paper, turns our name into a 'trade name'...a "doing business as" name.

Financial industry Example:
*Jane Doe on paper, identifies a natural individual.
*JANE DOE on paper, identifies a trade name (business name).

Medical industry example:
Doe, Jane on paper, identifies a trade name (business name).


So when JANE DOE and Doe, Jane is billed...it looks like the Financial and medical industries are billing individual Businesses rather than natural individuals.

This is how they are able to charge fees and taxes and other costs to you, the natural living individual...by making your name look like a Business/Company name that you are working for.

Looking like individual Businesses is why everyone's paychecks are being recorded the same as Business profits---> income.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5239441

Some VERY smart people on here.

OK, so what do we do about it?

Have you any suggestions?

We all all learning how it works.

How does it change?
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We canengage in more discussion, make it a real issue, which it is, but its so overwhelming, we don't know what to do. The more discussion, the more answers will flow.
Also, by taking little steps, don't answer their questions, don't fill out their surveys, don't let them screen us for databanks, be aware, and have knowledge, so that when we or our children are prescribed certain treatments, we can debate them with the "professionals"....some things I though of.
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I could not agree more with your post op! It started years ago but since Obamacare came into play, there are no longer

ANY private doctors out there that are not owned by a corporation. They are employees, not doctors.
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Put down the damn touchy feely koolaid and WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!

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Make sure to read the their patient agreement, where I went the fine print said they can report you to the authorities for things like "not following Dr. instructions, if they deem you are a threat to the president, etc." And yes it specifically said "the president".

This is in the middle of farm country here.
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Really! That is completely atrocious and appalling. What's worse is how people don't react to that - they just lap it up.

I could add a lot to this thread but I'll be late for work. I'll check in later on.

Great topic, one of my favorites.

A good prayer is to ask for help to stay as far away from doctors and hospitals as long as you live, amen.
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A few more thoughts, getting back to the OP.


Now think about this, for a minute, if you will.

What did women do about menapause, before it was "discovered" and named?


Answer: Not much.

No medicines, no hormones, nothing. Most worked hard enough to alleviate the discomfort. Has anything changed about the way our bodies function in the last 120 years? No. It is women who have become "educated" and have bought into the entire hormone propaganda system with relief.

Personally, I do not know ONE SINGLE woman, either in menapause or peri-menapausal, who has been helped by hormone therapy. Not one. I am talking dozens of women, who are busily bitching and chasing levels, and have repeated doc visits to get their meds adjusted because they are not finding the relief they've been sold on.

And that is part of my point: We've all been sold the ideal that life should always be without discomfort, without pain, that any condition-real or imagined-can be cured with a pill or a therapy. This is a huge disservice to our nation, and it stems from allowing the medical industry to advertise. (Remember that?) The whole message is that life can be pain free, from birth to death. It is not true, and people should not expect it to be so.

Spoken as a soon to be 57 year old woman, fully past menapause, who takes nothing for it. The sole OTC I use is allergy meds, because I work in a windy location that kicks up a lot of dust. Do I have aches and pains? From time to time. Do I have chronic conditions? Oh probably-but they are not debilitating and I have no intention of taking the testing path to find out I am getting older. I already know that ;)
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Great advice...just don't ever tell any doctor that bills your insurance company that you are seeing, or have ever seen, a naturopath! Insurance companies can deny claims for conditions that were previously treated by non-medically-accepted practices, herbs, or practitioners, unless that practitioner has an MD and their course of treatment is "approved" by the insurance company.
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Holy crap, now I've heard it all.
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Names altered on paper, turns our name into a 'trade name'...a "doing business as" name.

Financial industry Example:
*Jane Doe on paper, identifies a natural individual.
*JANE DOE on paper, identifies a trade name (business name).

Medical industry example:
Doe, Jane on paper, identifies a trade name (business name).


So when JANE DOE and Doe, Jane is billed...it looks like the Financial and medical industries are billing individual Businesses rather than natural individuals.

This is how they are able to charge fees and taxes and other costs to you, the natural living individual...by making your name look like a Business/Company name that you are working for.

Looking like individual Businesses is why everyone's paychecks are being recorded the same as Business profits---> income.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5239441

Some VERY smart people on here.

OK, so what do we do about it?

Have you any suggestions?

We all all learning how it works.

How does it change?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19876247


We canengage in more discussion, make it a real issue, which it is, but its so overwhelming, we don't know what to do. The more discussion, the more answers will flow.
Also, by taking little steps, don't answer their questions, don't fill out their surveys, don't let them screen us for databanks, be aware, and have knowledge, so that when we or our children are prescribed certain treatments, we can debate them with the "professionals"....some things I though of.
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Yes, yes and yes.

No one with a brain would fill out the surveys. MYOB could be used as a fill in.
(to ask a menopausal woman WHEN she first began having SEX is just DATAMINING and has no treatment options)

I counsel against DEBATES with government representatives and spies -which all doctors now are paid agents of government.

They can take the children from people that debate vaccines -or resist medical authority-or DENY care -and those conversations will be reported or even RECORDED.

If you are receiving government "subsidized" care -Medicaid, Medicare, Obamacare, state subsidies for insurance count-they have the ability to "keep records" on everything you say and do.(which includes recordings and notes)

Prisons occupancy rate goes down -just find some past users from their medical records and round them up...prisons are for profit centers licensed to outside contractors by the state you know...

Ever depressed -then your suicide will not be questioned...

And I am not nearly as paranoid as the doctors and health care workers that know how it works...

Women do need to communicate (as do we all) and STOP BEING SO STINKIN' NAIVE!!!
(as I assure you I excelled at most of my life -unquestioning obedience to authority -but I have done my homework and realize how easy we made it for them to use us and indoctrinate the children thru us too...nurses and teachers are the worst of the brainwashed.(and waking up now too)
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Don't blame the Dr's, it is how the system works and they are in debt to it and have no choice.

The Dr is only allowed to see you for 10 minutes-- 4 patients an hour and the paperwork that goes with it.

They don't get paid for things that are not covered and they must go with "standard of care"

There is a good solution. We all must take responsibility for our health.

There is a good side and a bad side to everything in this life of polar opposites.

The human genome project has given individuals the opportunity to know their personal genes.

We have the information at out fingertips now to make decisions for ourselves.

We had been led into a "parent / child" relationship with our Doctors and Government by design.

I learned this lesson over 15 years ago with Doctors who negated my symptoms, wanted to prescribe hormones etc. I took the script but never filled it. (and never went back)

No one will ever take the time to figure out what is wrong with you like you would do for yourself and your family.

We live in a new world where our food, water and medicines are more toxic than ever before. They can only stay in existence because we "buy" into it all.

While we still have choices and info at out fingertips we need to read, research, decide for ourselves, and say no.

We are assaulted daily by hormone disrupting chemicals that reek havoc on women's and mens bodies. Fluoride, plastics, factory farmed foods, prescriptions.....

The best news is that the question of "why am I sick when everyone else is not?" can now be affordably answered.

For $99- and $79- for each additional test you can get the entire DNA genome test done for yourself and your family. The mutations you discover offer a window as to why some things make you ill that others have no trouble with.

The test is offered from "23 and Me" and does not require a doctors script.

For female and male problems chances are you are iodine deficient and help can be found here [link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

This is also an excellent resource and free as is the above

[link to www.dramyyasko.com]

This is also a great place to start for healing--

[link to www.karenhurd.com]

Luckily there are some really great people out there that are willing to share their knowledge and time for free.

And thank God that you and many others are awake enough and in touch with your "gut" feelings to "know" that where medicine is going and at is so wrong.

It is precisely the fact that medicine and food and water has gotten so bad that it is forcing regular people to wake up and change their course.

People in ever growing numbers are taking control of their health and learning what they can do to heal themselves.

It is more about self responsibility and knowledge than finding the right doctor.

hfhfhf

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Great advice...just don't ever tell any doctor that bills your insurance company that you are seeing, or have ever seen, a naturopath! Insurance companies can deny claims for conditions that were previously treated by non-medically-accepted practices, herbs, or practitioners, unless that practitioner has an MD and their course of treatment is "approved" by the insurance company.
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Holy crap, now I've heard it all.
 Quoting: Vision Thing

Alternative treatments that work will undermine their FOR PROFIT Rockefeller Medicine!!!

AGAIN STOP being so Naive!!!

You can buy anything or anyone for the BILLIONS they spread around -and now they have it ALL with O'care-and will never give that POWER up.

The attack on Naturopaths is so insidious I know some that have TAKEN DOWN THEIR SIGNS-you find by word of mouth only...

START HERE:
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What if one day we have no choice but to go to these monopolized health mill units?

In the UK we have had no choice for 60+ years. Unless you're very well off and that's far fewer of us now.

Thus the abysmal NHS is often a traumatising experience. Socialism at its worst.

They OWN you. Like, you're not a real person if you are not registered with an NHS doctor. They treat you any way they like, ask all sorts of intrusive questions, and then sell off your medical history to God knows who (you have to make a big fuss to opt-out of this, which is your 'right'. But no one tells you that.)

I've noticed that young men get treated best. Immediate treatment, speedy referrals. Women of all ages are often 'psychiatrised' and once that's on your medical record then you have no credibility. Older people don't stand a chance. I just watched them kill my aged father in law. He had no terminal illness, just a bug that was taking time to clear up. They withdrew all his ordinary meds (for diabetes and such), gave him increasing doses of morphine and waited for him to die. It didn't take long.

If you kick up or even disagree slightly with anything, you're marked. Too often you'll find yourself without any access to medical care (check out the UK Patient's Association surveys: something like 87% of patients just will not complain because of retribution from the NHS....)

If you really want to sue an incompetent medic you can. But it's at your own expense. If you do then you will probably never get medical treatment again.

The NHS meanwhile has a HUGE legal budget which is a quarter of its whole budget.That tells you just where their priorities lie: cover-ups, silencing, intimidation and, ultimately, killing people. It's extremely difficult to win because they have so much money and so many evil dirty tricks they employ against you.

Meanwhile, many NHS employees still think they're doing a worthwhile job and cannot see the horrors that their employer is perpetrating. Cognitive dissonance I think it's called.

TBH, I think that the NHS - and ACA in the years to come - is now really only an arm of state control. A sort of police force with a bit of band aid, heaps of cheap and nasty drugs if they choose you to be a guinea pig and some techno gizmos involved if your one of the lucky ones.

I'm so very sad it's happening in the US. I did see it coming. I remember I used to post on GLP about it years back but no one got it. God bless you all and keep you and us healthy.
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The medical industry is a business, and it is run to ensure return customers. The massive amounts of advertising and media going into convincing people something is wrong with them is staggering. Our bodies are miraculous instruments, capable of healing themselves. But since billions are being made off the erroneous idea that your health depends on doctors, pills and surgeries, the lie continues.

Jolie was one of the most beautiful women in the world, and her female parts have been removed for no reason but baseless fear - and greed for the medical profiteers. Symbolic of what they do to us and our world in the name of money and the destruction of anything feminine and beautiful.
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OP, you need to go see a naturopathic doctor. I know a great one in the Sarasota area. You won't get the corporate treatment there.
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I could not agree more with your post op! It started years ago but since Obamacare came into play, there are no longer

ANY private doctors out there that are not owned by a corporation. They are employees, not doctors.
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That's just not true. There are still private practice docs. Some have even resisted the records programs that Obama-care tried to push everyone into. They are required to keep electronic records, but it does not have to be the Obama-care version. If they use a different program, the feds can't just push a button and see everything in you records.
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
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Really? You think the government is collecting for targeted advertising? Nope government anything is always about control.

Nudging you into the correct behavior. If they can't nudge, they'll shove.

You smoke? No treatment for cancer.

You drink? No liver transplant.

You depressed? No guns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19876247


ok so that makes some sense but at the same time us could just not get cancer or liver damage and there's always ways to get a gun.

But anyways cigarettes should be illegal drinking should be done in moderation and guns well like i said before.


These are just examples. You can take it as far as you like. Don't get a flu shot? You won't be allowed to see a doctor. Dont get the chip? Your children won't get that broken arm fixed. Like the commercial I posted. They kept calling a lady to get her yearly physical. That's harassment to me.

As far as cigarettes and drinking I personally don't do either, but I don't think the government should be allowed to punish me if I do. If they were that worried about it, why not just pull them off the market?

And I hate to say it but most honest people wouldn't even know where to go to find a gun. Can you picture some 70 year old widow heading over to the hood?

ABOVE IS QUOTED MATERIAL QUOTES NOT WORKING

Are you stinkin' kidding me?

GUNS ARE NOT ILLEGAL!!! We still have the second amendment and idiots like you should be thankful because you just might be standing behind someone with a gun to save your idiot ass one day.

GUNS were until recently SOLD AT WAL-MART!!! (everywhere)

GUNS are STILL sold at Gander Mountain, Dicks sporting goods, Bass Pro shops, Cabela's etc.

My grandma has a shotgun and whoa to the person that threatens her door.

There are over 20,000 LAWS on gun usage in these United States and we don't need any more.

Obviously, criminals have decided not to heed them haha what a surprise.

Do you think ALL prescription drugs should be illegal because drug addicts -criminals- refuse to obey the laws?

Responsible people everywhere still have their WALMART guns and you never hear about it-so STFU if you know nothing.

Its not a go to the hood (racist remark) thing.

This is the perfect thread to post this-because just like the FemiNazis the OP is complaining about -you know nothing "ladies" need to wake up and smell self-defense.

YOU are responsible for your healthcare and your LIFE.
By middle age or older most women have lost the man they depended upon (divorce and death)

Noone you call(police) or go see (doctor)has any more interest in your taking another breath.

The banksters just keep you alive to make money off of.

If TSHTF(theshithitsthefan)and WROL (withoutruleoflaw) EVER happens-(from sunspots -EMP-Nuke-economic collapse-hurricanes-etc)

YOU better be the responsible adult for your body and your life.

GRANNY GET YOUR GUN!!!

Ladies are the best shots too!
See these Olympic Ladies SKEET shoot!
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Wow, I think you need to re-read what I posted, there peanut head. Nowhere have I ever said or even thought we shouldn't have the right to own guns. The poster and I were inferring to a future of gun control through healthcare.So pull your head out of your ass and read the entire thread before you jump to conclusions.


So sit down sonny and
stfu





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