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What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?

 
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did u karma pin ur own topic brah
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Sure as hell did, so sue me.

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Having Tae Yang call me a bitch is really amusing, even if this post was not directed at me. Thumbs up!
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
Your snake just ate it's tail.
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
If you look up the actual word conspiracy, you will find that your thread makes no sense. If people didn't conspire, then people are trees. Hell even apes conspire.
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You know what conspiracies I'm referring to, quit being a schmuck.
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I'm in sympathy and open to your hypothesis. But I do think we have to tighten up on what we mean re 'conspiracy'.

In a long career spanning the commercial, media, academic and gov worlds my experience in all was that there was hardly a day went by when people weren't trying to cover something up. The Beeb and gov were worst. Academia came out best. Gov coverups had the worst/greatest impact.

But just about all of the covering up was passive: people trying to bumble along and cover their asses often stupidly after daft mistakes or incompetence or accidents. Mostly, it seemed to me, people were just people-pleasing, trying to curry favour with bosses or funders. People around often know at the time that there's something fishy going on. But it has to be said, people (even world leaders) are simply not bright enough to do all the things we imagine they do.

Genuine conspiracy is active: a deliberate gathering of people to plan and carry out covert, dishonest, criminal acts, usually for the direct benefit of the conspirators and this perceived interests. When the conspirators get their plans to work they have mostly devastating effects.these people know that they are doing wrong before they start, yet still go ahead clearly decided on unlawful/unethical/unprofessional activities. They rarely get caught and brought before a court.

I am certain that there are many of these genuine conspiracies. We recognise them after the fact and, in anger at being so badly duped, mistakenly attribute their profound heinousness to 'magical' evil, overwhelming powers.
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
Then it would be like going down to picket the baby seal catchers only to find out a storm came through at night and swept all 10,000 pups out into the Atlantic where they drowned.
Drop the sign, hang your head for whatever reason and go home where nothing good or bad will ever happen to you again if you are lucky.
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
propogandastfu:youreafag::gaythread2:
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this^ and bsflag this
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
the biggest conspiracies are hidden in plain sight. they are on the front page of the New York Times. barely hidden at all. but they definitely do exist.
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
fro example... Goldman Sachs Group Inc. executives sparred with lawmakers over accusations that its aluminum business improperly influenced prices and that the firm’s traders had unfair access to market-moving data.

Under fire at a hearing today on whether Wall Street’s ownership of commodities spurs conflicts, Goldman Sachs’s Jacques Gabillon disputed senators’ charges that long wait times for aluminum stockpiles had a direct effect on what companies and consumers pay for the metal. Only a handful of Goldman Sachs employees get information on the aluminum unit and reports are limited to financial performance, he said.

“When everything is said and done, you can say there is no correlation” between wait times and price, said Gabillon, head of the New York-based bank’s global commodities principal investments group.

His statements were met with skepticism from a Senate panel that released a 400-page report yesterday alleging that commodities businesses give banks undue influence over markets, spur trading advantages and could endanger the financial system through an industrial catastrophe.


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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
So international private bankers creating money out of thin air funding a war mongering "free" nation, even though they are not apart of the government is absolutely legit? They would never lobby money for their interests? Never mind having money as free speech and companies/corporations deemed as people.

I see what you sayin OP. But having a corrupt organization creatin our money is a conspiracy. Most all conspiracies fall under how and why/what money was spent on.

It's not all in our minds. Not everything is a conspiracy for sure. But to say no conspiracy exists is delusional.
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
If you look up the actual word conspiracy, you will find that your thread makes no sense. If people didn't conspire, then people are trees. Hell even apes conspire.
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
Conspiracy theories are the true false flag.
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
If we are ever to get off this rock and explore space, it would HAVE to be under a one world government.

Sort of like Star Trek was...

Mankind will not get to the point of reaching for the stars without this type of thinking, because our borders and all the other BS will hold us back from joining forces to accomplish it.
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It will take about another thousand years to make this happen.
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Sheesh! What a conundrum!

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If we are ever to get off this rock and explore space, it would HAVE to be under a one world government.

Sort of like Star Trek was...

Mankind will not get to the point of reaching for the stars without this type of thinking, because our borders and all the other BS will hold us back from joining forces to accomplish it.
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It will take about another thousand years to make this happen.
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We'll run out of resources before it happens, unless there is some die-off (likely engineered) which leaves the best and the brightest with plenty.

But that is conspiratorial.
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
If we are ever to get off this rock and explore space, it would HAVE to be under a one world government.

Sort of like Star Trek was...

Mankind will not get to the point of reaching for the stars without this type of thinking, because our borders and all the other BS will hold us back from joining forces to accomplish it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66658377


It will take about another thousand years to make this happen.
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We'll run out of resources before it happens, unless there is some die-off (likely engineered) which leaves the best and the brightest with plenty.

But that is conspiratorial.
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Well currently they're trying to promote the idea of robotized human being.
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
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I'd like to think it is as simple as that, I really do. This is mankind we are talking about.

If you look at it, a "conspiracy" such as world depopulation makes perfect sense albeit inhumane. Some of the theories discussed here work out better on paper than trying to implement on the masses. Perhaps the only way to bring about globalization and depopulation is the culling of a massive world war. TPTB better start it soon before we have the Greek riots to the hundredth power in the west.
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
If we are ever to get off this rock and explore space, it would HAVE to be under a one world government.

Sort of like Star Trek was...

Mankind will not get to the point of reaching for the stars without this type of thinking, because our borders and all the other BS will hold us back from joining forces to accomplish it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66658377


It will take about another thousand years to make this happen.
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We'll run out of resources before it happens, unless there is some die-off (likely engineered) which leaves the best and the brightest with plenty.

But that is conspiratorial.
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
Now I'm not saying this is the case as there are many well known, as well as a myriad of independent, truth seekers and researchers who work tirelessly to connect the dots and expose the workings of the proverbial Powers That Be. I'm merely suggesting for shits and grins the possibility that the world really is as it seems? That there's no evil/occult/esoteric NWO agenda but that people just make up this stuff to fit a particular model they have formed of the world, one that is threatening, oppressive and dark? What if globalisation is just the next step along the path which humanity is on, as the collective consciousness grows and solidifies and people begin to think outside of their social circles and preconceived notions? What if there were no False Flag operations or staged shootings and the reports really were exactly as the media claimed? I think that would be the scariest truth, the most shocking and difficult to grasp realization. What if we as humans just naturally have to find some subtle and deeper reasons behind why certain things happen? Just a thought.
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Well if this is the case the Jews are likely behind it...5a
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
a one world government is the obvious conclusion to a world that is constantly improving communication between all its people

you dont need to live in fear about an uncertain future. you can embrace it for the exciting changes it will bring
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
If you look up the actual word conspiracy, you will find that your thread makes no sense. If people didn't conspire, then people are trees. Hell even apes conspire.
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clappa

Just think of all the conspiration daily on a micro and micro level we experience daily within each and everyone of our lives. OP has me thinking how f'ing evil and dirty humans really are.

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Then there would be one, so there would not be none.
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
If we are ever to get off this rock and explore space, it would HAVE to be under a one world government.

Sort of like Star Trek was...

Mankind will not get to the point of reaching for the stars without this type of thinking, because our borders and all the other BS will hold us back from joining forces to accomplish it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66658377


It will take about another thousand years to make this happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4553737


We'll run out of resources before it happens, unless there is some die-off (likely engineered) which leaves the best and the brightest with plenty.

But that is conspiratorial.
 Quoting: Root 66


Well currently they're trying to promote the idea of robotized human being.
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Intelligent Robots Will Overtake Humans by 2100, Experts Say

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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
How zen.
Now pee on the root of a rhubarb bush,
rub your tummy and pat yourself on the head.
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
Now I'm not saying this is the case as there are many well known, as well as a myriad of independent, truth seekers and researchers who work tirelessly to connect the dots and expose the workings of the proverbial Powers That Be. I'm merely suggesting for shits and grins the possibility that the world really is as it seems? That there's no evil/occult/esoteric NWO agenda but that people just make up this stuff to fit a particular model they have formed of the world, one that is threatening, oppressive and dark? What if globalisation is just the next step along the path which humanity is on, as the collective consciousness grows and solidifies and people begin to think outside of their social circles and preconceived notions? What if there were no False Flag operations or staged shootings and the reports really were exactly as the media claimed? I think that would be the scariest truth, the most shocking and difficult to grasp realization. What if we as humans just naturally have to find some subtle and deeper reasons behind why certain things happen? Just a thought.
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laugh

So the report Iron mountain didn't really happen? Or the Creature from Jekyll Island?
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propogandastfu:youreafag::gaythread2:
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Wow, you did NOT like this post huh? Why so opposed?

Shills are gonna shill, I guess!
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You ARE a shill, asswipe.
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
Now I'm not saying this is the case as there are many well known, as well as a myriad of independent, truth seekers and researchers who work tirelessly to connect the dots and expose the workings of the proverbial Powers That Be. I'm merely suggesting for shits and grins the possibility that the world really is as it seems? That there's no evil/occult/esoteric NWO agenda but that people just make up this stuff to fit a particular model they have formed of the world, one that is threatening, oppressive and dark? What if globalisation is just the next step along the path which humanity is on, as the collective consciousness grows and solidifies and people begin to think outside of their social circles and preconceived notions? What if there were no False Flag operations or staged shootings and the reports really were exactly as the media claimed? I think that would be the scariest truth, the most shocking and difficult to grasp realization. What if we as humans just naturally have to find some subtle and deeper reasons behind why certain things happen? Just a thought.
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Oh, and I head it was the space shuttle explosions.
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
Now I'm not saying this is the case as there are many well known, as well as a myriad of independent, truth seekers and researchers who work tirelessly to connect the dots and expose the workings of the proverbial Powers That Be. I'm merely suggesting for shits and grins the possibility that the world really is as it seems? That there's no evil/occult/esoteric NWO agenda but that people just make up this stuff to fit a particular model they have formed of the world, one that is threatening, oppressive and dark? What if globalisation is just the next step along the path which humanity is on, as the collective consciousness grows and solidifies and people begin to think outside of their social circles and preconceived notions? What if there were no False Flag operations or staged shootings and the reports really were exactly as the media claimed? I think that would be the scariest truth, the most shocking and difficult to grasp realization. What if we as humans just naturally have to find some subtle and deeper reasons behind why certain things happen? Just a thought.
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Except for the part about globalization, I, for one, would be absolutely thrilled. Wouldn't hurt me a bit to find out that every shooter event was real, that there was no satanic Illuminati bullshit going on, and the world was basically as it appears to be. I'd jump for joy. But as for globalization, fuck that. I can't even think of a nation or country I'd want to be "globalized" with in any way. But everything else...I'd be as happy as can be.
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Oh I agree with you completely about the globalization bit. Jeeze, nothing ruffles feathers on a conspiracy theory forum than mentioning the far fetched possibility that there are no conspiracy theories. Haha!!
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Whose feathers are ruffled? I said I'd be thrilled and as happy as can be. Nothing about conspiracy makes me happy and it never did. It brings nothing but fear to my world but the facts are the facts so I can't deny them.
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
Some conspiracies are true, but most of what is considered a conspiracy is just business as usual, causality, chaos and opportunism.

You are asking the right questions.

There is a level of understanding beyond what conspiracy theorists argue is "the truth".
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
It could be!

Personally I believe many 'conspiracy theories' are true, like most of us here.

Most people in the world would regard most of us here as a bit crazy. Paranoid, at least.

What if they're right? What if we really are the paranoid, crazy folk mainstream society seems to believe we are?

I do not think that is the case, but one has to keep an open mind, especially when it comes to oneself.
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Re: What if the only conspiracy is that there are no conspiracies?
If you look up the actual word conspiracy, you will find that your thread makes no sense. If people didn't conspire, then people are trees. Hell even apes conspire.
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You know what conspiracies I'm referring to, quit being a schmuck.
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I'm in sympathy and open to your hypothesis. But I do think we have to tighten up on what we mean re 'conspiracy'.

In a long career spanning the commercial, media, academic and gov worlds my experience in all was that there was hardly a day went by when people weren't trying to cover something up. The Beeb and gov were worst. Academia came out best. Gov coverups had the worst/greatest impact.

But just about all of the covering up was passive: people trying to bumble along and cover their asses often stupidly after daft mistakes or incompetence or accidents. Mostly, it seemed to me, people were just people-pleasing, trying to curry favour with bosses or funders. People around often know at the time that there's something fishy going on. But it has to be said, people (even world leaders) are simply not bright enough to do all the things we imagine they do.

Genuine conspiracy is active: a deliberate gathering of people to plan and carry out covert, dishonest, criminal acts, usually for the direct benefit of the conspirators and this perceived interests. When the conspirators get their plans to work they have mostly devastating effects.these people know that they are doing wrong before they start, yet still go ahead clearly decided on unlawful/unethical/unprofessional activities. They rarely get caught and brought before a court.

I am certain that there are many of these genuine conspiracies. We recognise them after the fact and, in anger at being so badly duped, mistakenly attribute their profound heinousness to 'magical' evil, overwhelming powers.
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Is the correct answer.





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