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(OP) User ID: 66243844 United States 02/25/2015 12:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow no biters? "To be frank, I think his world had vanished long before he ever entered it. But I must say he certainly sustained the illusion with a marvelous grace." [link to divisibledefeat.wordpress.com] |
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Traveler In The Matrix User ID: 64416919 United States 02/25/2015 12:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the entire Snowden thing is a psyop to condition the public to accept being completed spied upon. No one seemed to care about what the government is doing so the plan just continues forward. To be honest, I'm sickened by the entire thing. If someone didn't want Snowden shooting off his mouth, he wouldn't be. And the fact that he gets mainstream media publicity is a deal sealer for me to be honest. You think about all the things that our government doesn't want the public to know.... it never receives any attention. It's all a game. Last Edited by Question EVERYTHING on 02/25/2015 12:48 AM First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. ~ Mahatma Gandhi "Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever." ~ George Orwell "The exact level of tyranny that you're going to live under, is the level of tyranny you put up with." ~Thomas Jefferson "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. ~ Thomas Jefferson |
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(OP) User ID: 66243844 United States 02/25/2015 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the entire Snowden thing is a psyop to condition the public to accept being completed spied upon. No one seemed to care about what the government is doing so the plan just continues forward. Quoting: Question EVERYTHING To be honest, I'm sickened by the entire thing. If someone didn't want Snowden shooting off his mouth, he wouldn't be. And the fact that he gets mainstream media publicity is a deal sealer for me to be honest. You think about all the things that our government doesn't want the public to know.... it never receives any attention. It's all a game. I mean with all the technology that the NSA allegedly has at its disposal if they wanted to take Snowden out they could have quite easily. It seems like it's too perfect. The masses are already conditioned to accept that they are being sped on every hour of every day down to every minute little detail of their lives so just how deep does the rabbit hole really go? What is Snowden distracting us from? "To be frank, I think his world had vanished long before he ever entered it. But I must say he certainly sustained the illusion with a marvelous grace." [link to divisibledefeat.wordpress.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37071506 United States 02/25/2015 12:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Plenty of good reading here: [link to spitfirelist.com] Introduction: This program highlights the financial angel behind the new media outlet being launched by “Eddie the Friendly Spook” Snowden’s leaking journalist of choice, that resolute champion of human liberty Glenn “Give me a Nazi and I will defend him pro-bono” Greenwald. The founder of EBay (which bought PayPal from Peter Thiel), Pierre Omidyar has been hailed as a veritable saint by the media. In fact, he is a creature in the mold of the Koch Brothers and the Ludwig von Mises Institute. Keeping Secrets: Pierre Omidyar, Glenn Greenwald and the privatization of Snowden’s leaks By Mark Ames On November 27, 2013 Who “owns” the NSA secrets leaked by Edward Snowden to reporters Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras? and further down the page: Given that eBay founder Pierre Omidyar just invested a quarter of a billion dollars to personally hire Greenwald and Poitras for his new for-profit media venture, it’s a question worth asking. It’s especially worth asking since it became clear that Greenwald and Poitras are now the only two people with full access to the complete cache of NSA files, which are said to number anywhere from 50,000 to as many as 200,000 files. That’s right: Snowden doesn’t have the files any more, the Guardian doesn’t have them, the Washington Post doesn’t have them… just Glenn and Laura at the for-profit journalism company created by the founder of eBay. Edward Snowden has popularly been compared to major whistleblowers such as Daniel Ellsberg, Chelsea Manning and Jeffrey Wigand. However, there is an important difference in the Snowden files that has so far gone largely unnoticed. Whistleblowing has traditionally served the public interest. In this case, it is about to serve the interests of a billionaire starting a for-profit media business venture. This is truly unprecedented. Never before has such a vast trove of public secrets been sold wholesale to a single billionaire as the foundation of a for-profit company. |
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(OP) User ID: 66243844 United States 02/25/2015 01:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Plenty of good reading here: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37071506 [link to spitfirelist.com] Introduction: This program highlights the financial angel behind the new media outlet being launched by “Eddie the Friendly Spook” Snowden’s leaking journalist of choice, that resolute champion of human liberty Glenn “Give me a Nazi and I will defend him pro-bono” Greenwald. The founder of EBay (which bought PayPal from Peter Thiel), Pierre Omidyar has been hailed as a veritable saint by the media. In fact, he is a creature in the mold of the Koch Brothers and the Ludwig von Mises Institute. Keeping Secrets: Pierre Omidyar, Glenn Greenwald and the privatization of Snowden’s leaks By Mark Ames On November 27, 2013 Who “owns” the NSA secrets leaked by Edward Snowden to reporters Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras? and further down the page: Given that eBay founder Pierre Omidyar just invested a quarter of a billion dollars to personally hire Greenwald and Poitras for his new for-profit media venture, it’s a question worth asking. It’s especially worth asking since it became clear that Greenwald and Poitras are now the only two people with full access to the complete cache of NSA files, which are said to number anywhere from 50,000 to as many as 200,000 files. That’s right: Snowden doesn’t have the files any more, the Guardian doesn’t have them, the Washington Post doesn’t have them… just Glenn and Laura at the for-profit journalism company created by the founder of eBay. Edward Snowden has popularly been compared to major whistleblowers such as Daniel Ellsberg, Chelsea Manning and Jeffrey Wigand. However, there is an important difference in the Snowden files that has so far gone largely unnoticed. Whistleblowing has traditionally served the public interest. In this case, it is about to serve the interests of a billionaire starting a for-profit media business venture. This is truly unprecedented. Never before has such a vast trove of public secrets been sold wholesale to a single billionaire as the foundation of a for-profit company. Wow! For anyone who has seen Person of Interest it's almost like how Harold made the surveillance AI machine and then Decima Technologies replicated it and made the SAMARITAN program. Maybe Greenwald and Poitras are trying to recreate the tech being used? What would a mere journalist and filmmaker do with that cache of files? Leverage? But wouldn't they have used it already? No one cares enough to make it leverage against anything anyway. "To be frank, I think his world had vanished long before he ever entered it. But I must say he certainly sustained the illusion with a marvelous grace." [link to divisibledefeat.wordpress.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65501503 United States 02/25/2015 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I grew up around all those companies.. Booz Allen & Hamilton is dark, rand corp, SAIC dark dark. Rand started tracking all the internet genealogy stuff when Internet was just for folders, boards.. Then bought the company's.. Then the dna kits process. Learned company black & decker invested & bought defense mil, & inteligence firms.. That was wierd. The General Motors bail outs were not really for auto industry. Look up what companies they owned. In between, The end game later was Raytheon took it all & patents. Other Intel/mil funds going to slow in pipeline, the bail out was to get money into gm holdings working on all sorts of stuff, but also surveillance cams, gate recognition, car, liscense plate readers, retina etc.. They sold to Japanese in some forms for goofy stuff, but due to no restrictive constitution use all of UK as experiment.. Cameras, sensors, listening posts, passive magnetic, later chip readers. Helmet sheilds that have computer screens in them, this was all early 90s projects.. Darpa.. . Then think SERCO, & how all UK students get into system, Learned USAID is all Bribe, hush money, money laundering, & shipments are for drugs, arms. & forward staging for our us forced regime changes, or assasinations etc.. Other agencies too. We wouldn't be in such a balls in vice, if there had been Internet like now, & more whistleblowers before iran contra.. Because how deep how dark, how sick, deprived, would have had people out in the streets, calling for everyone out of office, hangings. We really could have stopped such a NWO shit fest we have now. I mean u name the crime, no matter how vulgar, reprehensible, far fetched, don't want to dwell on, changes how you look at everything.. Game changer. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68180440 United Kingdom 02/25/2015 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the entire Snowden thing is a psyop to condition the public to accept being completed spied upon. No one seemed to care about what the government is doing so the plan just continues forward. Quoting: Question EVERYTHING To be honest, I'm sickened by the entire thing. If someone didn't want Snowden shooting off his mouth, he wouldn't be. And the fact that he gets mainstream media publicity is a deal sealer for me to be honest. You think about all the things that our government doesn't want the public to know.... it never receives any attention. It's all a game. And NOTHING is being revealed about the Remote control of individuals, i think Snowden is side tracking from the mother load, which throws into doubt many mass shootings and lone gunman assassinations, they don't want that evidence getting out, so my 12 five star thread from 2013 is deleted, the scanned document proof was taken down two days after posting but i re posted it on the way back machine, then Kents whole memorial site went down, came back up a couple months later MINUS the document ofcourse, then a few months after that and my thread here disappeared also |
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(OP) User ID: 66243844 United States 02/25/2015 03:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the entire Snowden thing is a psyop to condition the public to accept being completed spied upon. No one seemed to care about what the government is doing so the plan just continues forward. Quoting: Question EVERYTHING To be honest, I'm sickened by the entire thing. If someone didn't want Snowden shooting off his mouth, he wouldn't be. And the fact that he gets mainstream media publicity is a deal sealer for me to be honest. You think about all the things that our government doesn't want the public to know.... it never receives any attention. It's all a game. And NOTHING is being revealed about the Remote control of individuals, i think Snowden is side tracking from the mother load, which throws into doubt many mass shootings and lone gunman assassinations, they don't want that evidence getting out, so my 12 five star thread from 2013 is deleted, the scanned document proof was taken down two days after posting but i re posted it on the way back machine, then Kents whole memorial site went down, came back up a couple months later MINUS the document ofcourse, then a few months after that and my thread here disappeared also Contact me via my blog. I want to know more. "To be frank, I think his world had vanished long before he ever entered it. But I must say he certainly sustained the illusion with a marvelous grace." [link to divisibledefeat.wordpress.com] |
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(OP) User ID: 66243844 United States 02/25/2015 03:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu] "To be frank, I think his world had vanished long before he ever entered it. But I must say he certainly sustained the illusion with a marvelous grace." [link to divisibledefeat.wordpress.com] |
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(OP) User ID: 66243844 United States 02/25/2015 03:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I saw it. He contacted them before going to Hong Kong. While there everywhere she filmed as documentary. I found it too short, didn't like the ending, want more., like airport, then russia.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65501503 I grew up around all those companies.. Booz Allen & Hamilton is dark, rand corp, SAIC dark dark. Rand started tracking all the internet genealogy stuff when Internet was just for folders, boards.. Then bought the company's.. Then the dna kits process. Learned company black & decker invested & bought defense mil, & inteligence firms.. That was wierd. The General Motors bail outs were not really for auto industry. Look up what companies they owned. In between, The end game later was Raytheon took it all & patents. Other Intel/mil funds going to slow in pipeline, the bail out was to get money into gm holdings working on all sorts of stuff, but also surveillance cams, gate recognition, car, liscense plate readers, retina etc.. They sold to Japanese in some forms for goofy stuff, but due to no restrictive constitution use all of UK as experiment.. Cameras, sensors, listening posts, passive magnetic, later chip readers. Helmet sheilds that have computer screens in them, this was all early 90s projects.. Darpa.. . Then think SERCO, & how all UK students get into system, Learned USAID is all Bribe, hush money, money laundering, & shipments are for drugs, arms. & forward staging for our us forced regime changes, or assasinations etc.. Other agencies too. We wouldn't be in such a balls in vice, if there had been Internet like now, & more whistleblowers before iran contra.. Because how deep how dark, how sick, deprived, would have had people out in the streets, calling for everyone out of office, hangings. We really could have stopped such a NWO shit fest we have now. I mean u name the crime, no matter how vulgar, reprehensible, far fetched, don't want to dwell on, changes how you look at everything.. Game changer. Thank you very much for sharing all this info. I wish I had more to contribute but I dont. I didn't realize this was so big. "To be frank, I think his world had vanished long before he ever entered it. But I must say he certainly sustained the illusion with a marvelous grace." [link to divisibledefeat.wordpress.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17393856 United States 02/25/2015 04:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Frankly, from the very beginning after Snowden revealed himself & the info he disseminated to the press was a real let down if you wanted to "know" something he had. Anything he has revealed is most likely in the public domain and I believe he let loose information in the public domain. What is most spectacular & why Snowden gets press is the fact he revealed himself - it's nothing more than that. In the US there are certain oaths one takes in working for the government. Did he break an oath after sworn allegiance to the US even as a "contractor" The simple fact Snowden revealed himself makes new not the info . There's nothing really groundshaking there. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33191379 Netherlands 02/25/2015 07:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you don't like to be spied upon then disconnect computer from the Internet and keep it detached and do not use Cellphones. That summarizes it, yup it means no gadgets, toys whatever electronically for you unless you want to be tracked. It is really very simple yet nowadays those gadgets are more inseperable from their user then tattoos. |