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'Cloud' over Mars leaves scientists baffled

Amateur astronomers have spotted two strange, cloud-like plumes high over Mars, deepening the mystery of what constitutes the Red Planet's atmosphere, a study said Monday.

The phenomenon was observed on March 12, 2012 over the "terminator", the boundary between day and night on Mars.

One of the plumes developed in around 10 hours and lasted for about 11 days, shifting shape from "double blob protrusions" to pillars which merged into a "finger", the study authors wrote.

A second was spotted nearby on April 6, 2012, and lasted about 10 days.

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The plumes could be made of particles of water or carbon dioxide, said the paper published in the journal Nature Geoscience by a team led by Agustin Sanchez-Lavega of the University of the Basque Country in Bilbao, Spain.

Alternatively, it could be an aurora, similar to the shimmering light show that develops in Earth's atmosphere when solar particles collide with Earth's magnetic field.

If correct, the Martian "aurora" would be a remarkable 1,000 times brighter than its terrestrial equivalent.


But "both explanations defy our current understanding of Mars' upper atmosphere," the scientists admit.

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Images in link.


Strange 'double blob' atop Martian atmosphere puzzles scientists

So what exactly is going on in the Martian atmosphere?

Aside from these two theories, scientists don't really know. But thanks to the work of citizen astronomers backed up with data from the Hubble telescope (which, researchers just realized, spotted a similar event in 1997) they now know the phenomenon exists and can put more time and energy into understanding it.

"We just have to keep watching with telescopes on Earth and with spacecraft," Sánchez-Lavega told National Geographic. "And because they're so numerous, so widely spread around Earth and so dedicated, amateurs will continue to play a fundamental role."

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Re: Blue skies on Mars..?
That's the movie I was thinking of while reading that.
It seems possible mars had a civilization at some point.
It's been speculated there is even life, moss and the like, in the cave systems under t h e surface and that would be the ideal place to try and set up a base to colonize.
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That's the movie I was thinking of while reading that.
It seems possible mars had a civilization at some point.
It's been speculated there is even life, moss and the like, in the cave systems under t h e surface and that would be the ideal place to try and set up a base to colonize.
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I read the title and instantly recalled Total Recall. To see the word 'Terminator' in the article, only reinforced it. WHo knew?

Much of the poignant scenes of the original Total Recall, is absent from YouTube. It was tricky to find what I posted. Most likely due to scenes being deleted due to copyright issues...


I have looked for the 'super hero' package selling scene, repeatedly. For most likely obvious reasons.
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Hmmm

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YeAh nothing. Except this creepy gem.


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Watching an atmosphere form is an intriguing idea.
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YeAh nothing. Except this creepy gem.


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Watching an atmosphere form is an intriguing idea.
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Truly.

I found Total Recall particularly intriguing as a youth. I watched it many, many times.

The end leaving one to reconcile whether it had all just been a dream, or had it really happened..?
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I fell asleep. My bad.

What if the on l y difference between a dream and reality is 'now' ?

When youre dreaming that is the reality and this is the dream.
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I fell asleep. My bad.

What if the on l y difference between a dream and reality is 'now' ?

When youre dreaming that is the reality and this is the dream.
 Quoting: Facts>feelings


I have considered the same. Recently I have been exploring the concept of unconsciousness.

That space between after falling asleep and before we start to dream. Whereas, while I continue to exist physically, I have no awareness of Self, or anything for that matter.
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I fell asleep. My bad.

What if the on l y difference between a dream and reality is 'now' ?

When youre dreaming that is the reality and this is the dream.
 Quoting: Facts>feelings


I have considered the same. Recently I have been exploring the concept of unconsciousness.

That space between after falling asleep and before we start to dream. Whereas, while I continue to exist physically, I have no awareness of Self, or anything for that matter.
 Quoting: Seer777


That's when youre potentially open to unfiltered information from our higher self. Ego and ID isn't as capable of interfering with the information being communicated to your conscious self.

It's why many keep pen and paper or a voice recorder next to their bed. So they can record insights or ideas before they either fall asleep and forget them or in the morning before they become fully awake and forget them.
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U R both so close to the true... Only if more people understand that... Maybe then world could be a better place.
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I fell asleep. My bad.

What if the on l y difference between a dream and reality is 'now' ?

When youre dreaming that is the reality and this is the dream.
 Quoting: Facts>feelings


I have considered the same. Recently I have been exploring the concept of unconsciousness.

That space between after falling asleep and before we start to dream. Whereas, while I continue to exist physically, I have no awareness of Self, or anything for that matter.
 Quoting: Seer777


That's when youre potentially open to unfiltered information from our higher self. Ego and ID isn't as capable of interfering with the information being communicated to your conscious self.

It's why many keep pen and paper or a voice recorder next to their bed. So they can record insights or ideas before they either fall asleep and forget them or in the morning before they become fully awake and forget them.
 Quoting: Facts>feelings


That reminds of another particularity of coming out of sleep I notice many times a year. Particularly, when I am on the road for work and sleep somewhere unusual.

There are those few moments when coming out of sleep, where you are awake, but you do not recall where you are or even who you are.

Without opening your eyes, some part of you knows you are in a different location than usual for your sleep/wake cycle and it causes a lengthening of amnesia even remember who one is. I have had it last up to 5-6 seconds while feeling a small sense of terror of not knowing who or where you are.

Does that happen to you?

I notice it happens when I go from here to the beach house as well.

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U R both so close to the true... Only if more people understand that... Maybe then world could be a better place.
 Quoting: Surtr Ragnarök


Please expand.

This thread is open for discussion.

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I fell asleep. My bad.

What if the on l y difference between a dream and reality is 'now' ?

When youre dreaming that is the reality and this is the dream.
 Quoting: Facts>feelings


I have considered the same. Recently I have been exploring the concept of unconsciousness.

That space between after falling asleep and before we start to dream. Whereas, while I continue to exist physically, I have no awareness of Self, or anything for that matter.
 Quoting: Seer777


That's when youre potentially open to unfiltered information from our higher self. Ego and ID isn't as capable of interfering with the information being communicated to your conscious self.

It's why many keep pen and paper or a voice recorder next to their bed. So they can record insights or ideas before they either fall asleep and forget them or in the morning before they become fully awake and forget them.
 Quoting: Facts>feelings


That reminds of another particularity of coming out of sleep I notice many times a year. Particularly, when I am on the road for work and sleep somewhere unusual.

There are those few moments when coming out of sleep, where you are awake, but you do not recall where you are or even who you are.

Without opening your eyes, some part of you knows you are in a different location than usual for your sleep/wake cycle and it causes a lengthening of amnesia even remember who one is. I have had it last up to 5-6 seconds while feeling a small sense of terror of not knowing who or where you are.

Does that happen to you?

I notice it happens when I go from here to the beach house as well.
 Quoting: Seer777


Yes but it doesn't cause fear oddly enough. Instinct kicks in an I start trying to investigate my surrounding quietly until I wake up and realize I recognize everything lol.
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U R both so close to the true... Only if more people understand that... Maybe then world could be a better place.
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Get back here and talk about us more. Wth man?
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Dammit. Bbl
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I have considered the same. Recently I have been exploring the concept of unconsciousness.

That space between after falling asleep and before we start to dream. Whereas, while I continue to exist physically, I have no awareness of Self, or anything for that matter.
 Quoting: Seer777


That's when youre potentially open to unfiltered information from our higher self. Ego and ID isn't as capable of interfering with the information being communicated to your conscious self.

It's why many keep pen and paper or a voice recorder next to their bed. So they can record insights or ideas before they either fall asleep and forget them or in the morning before they become fully awake and forget them.
 Quoting: Facts>feelings


That reminds of another particularity of coming out of sleep I notice many times a year. Particularly, when I am on the road for work and sleep somewhere unusual.

There are those few moments when coming out of sleep, where you are awake, but you do not recall where you are or even who you are.

Without opening your eyes, some part of you knows you are in a different location than usual for your sleep/wake cycle and it causes a lengthening of amnesia even remember who one is. I have had it last up to 5-6 seconds while feeling a small sense of terror of not knowing who or where you are.

Does that happen to you?

I notice it happens when I go from here to the beach house as well.
 Quoting: Seer777


Yes but it doesn't cause fear oddly enough. Instinct kicks in an I start trying to investigate my surrounding quietly until I wake up and realize I recognize everything lol.
 Quoting: Facts>feelings


It has only caused fear when it seemingly lasted longer than was comfortable.

But yes, investigation of self and surroundings brings it all back around.
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So?

How to prolong and better utilize that space between?
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So?

How to prolong and better utilize that space between?
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Well, no.

I was more thinking in the sense of those who claim we 'blink out' after death. I always found that thought a bit scary. However, I find the concept of existing forever, also scary.

I realized recently I 'blink out' every single night. When I am not dreaming, I am unaware of anything, unless something rouses me into consciousness.

I guess what I am saying is, I found another way of looking at it, to overcome any fear of no afterlife...
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Ah, ok.

I don't worry about it because it's too early to.
Brutally simple and foolhardy. My version of occams razor.

What's scary to me is how appealing the idea of feeling nothing anymore can be.
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Ah, ok.

I don't worry about it because it's too early to.
Brutally simple and foolhardy. My version of occams razor.

What's scary to me is how appealing the idea of feeling nothing anymore can be.
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Well. One never knows for sure when their card is going to be called.

Feeling nothing, or being aware of nothing certainly has its charms.


On another note, I just started watching Vikings. About 20 minutes into the first episode. I can already tell it is gonna be entertaining.

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Haven't seen it.

Ugh...bbl Hon. Maybe we'll chat yet.
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Hello Facts, Seer!

Sweet post.

I keep thinking my dreams are astral stuff, until I live the day they foretold.

???
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Hello Facts, Seer!

Sweet post.

I keep thinking my dreams are astral stuff, until I live the day they foretold.

???
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As above so below?
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Or as it is on the inside so it is on the outside, if you prefer.
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Or as it is on the inside so it is on the outside, if you prefer.
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Yes. Sounds about right.

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Haven't seen it.

Ugh...bbl Hon. Maybe we'll chat yet.
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Good morning.

I watched 5 episodes last night. It's good so far.

Looks like it is going to be a beautiful day, today.

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Hello Facts, Seer!

Sweet post.

I keep thinking my dreams are astral stuff, until I live the day they foretold.

???
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


Heya Bohdi!

Thanks. :)


Are you talking about precognitive dreams? Deja vu? I read a post here 2 days ago concerning dreaming and precognition that struck a chord with me.

I'll see if I can find it.


I was just over at GMG checking things out. Saw that Phi's account was deleted.

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