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FOR ENLIGHTENED AND RELIGIOUS REAL DEBATE HERE

 
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For me? Absolutely not, I wanted someone to say that. You just validated core beliefs most religious people would refute. God within us, we hold the keys.
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no, God with us

Christ was immanuel

we aren't

pretty simple actually

upon conception the Holy Spirit began dwelling with mankind

evidenced by the fact that John the Baptist who was 6 months in his own mother Elizabeths womb at that point LEPT for joy when Mary entered the room...
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Everything that exist is both a part of God & is itself God...
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This thread is for "REAL DEBATE" how is anything held with value if there is no factual foundation to what is being returned???

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For me? Absolutely not, I wanted someone to say that. You just validated core beliefs most religious people would refute. God within us, we hold the keys.
 Quoting: serpents666




no, God with us

Christ was immanuel

we aren't

pretty simple actually

upon conception the Holy Spirit began dwelling with mankind

evidenced by the fact that John the Baptist who was 6 months in his own mother Elizabeths womb at that point LEPT for joy when Mary entered the room...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45253895


Everything that exist is both a part of God & is itself God...
goodevil
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I can dig that, especially if you correlate it to ALPHA AND OMEGA
clappa
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I know one thing for sure about human nature.

If religion had no reward versus punishment or heaven versus hell concept there is no reason to follow any religion.The religious leaders noticed this and acted accordingly.

So if this is possibly the key for peoples following of a religion,to me it indicates religion is based on an individuals fear of death.

I believe a humans focus should be on life not death.
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I know one thing for sure about human nature.

If religion had no reward versus punishment or heaven versus hell concept there is no reason to follow any religion.The religious leaders noticed this and acted accordingly.

So if this is possibly the key for peoples following of a religion,to me it indicates religion is based on an individuals fear of death.

I believe a humans focus should be on life not death.
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Bravo, completely on the same page, true spirituality is a removal of emotional bondage. Where one realizes the connectivity of existence and death on a level that it is viewed as experience, not a phobia or negative aspect of life.
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Was hoping I'd see more proof about anyone's beliefs. I have an open mind, proof speaks more than silence. Reject my beliefs if one wants, show me yours, show me your proof. I am ready for it..
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Was hoping I'd see more proof about anyone's beliefs. I have an open mind, proof speaks more than silence. Reject my beliefs if one wants, show me yours, show me your proof. I am ready for it..
 Quoting: serpents666


Bro, I'm all about having a religious debate, but something's amiss here.

Are you like 15?

Colombian?

Something's weird.

Please clarify so we can get down to debate.
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To simply put if you are not 'fluid' with an egregore, that is a collective group mind or thought, then you create friction.

People have constructed bubble illusions to act as comfort zones for their reality. If someone has a different thought or opinion that does not work, you get a fight or flight reaction more than often with indoctrinated folks.

In the case of indoctrinated people, all they know is what they know and what they can learn is limited by the platform of thought they are working with, in most cases pages from a book handed to them by authority figures.
 Quoting: TheBrainSupreme


clappa
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Where is the debate at op? Why dont you tell us your beliefs , we can then proceed to tear it apart for lack of any real proof as you say. Funny how all these religious threads are somehow aimed at Christianity. Even your name is a take on the Bible , yet you talk about no original thought.
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This thread is for "REAL DEBATE" how is anything held with value if there is no factual foundation to what is being returned???
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Real debate huh? Problem is you want to debate everyone's else's faith.
Let's debate your faith, come on this is a thread for real debate. Let's begin.
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To simply put if you are not 'fluid' with an egregore, that is a collective group mind or thought, then you create friction.

People have constructed bubble illusions to act as comfort zones for their reality. If someone has a different thought or opinion that does not work, you get a fight or flight reaction more than often with indoctrinated folks.

In the case of indoctrinated people, all they know is what they know and what they can learn is limited by the platform of thought they are working with, in most cases pages from a book handed to them by authority figures.
 Quoting: TheBrainSupreme


clappa
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Indoctrinated people? Your to simple to realize that you are the one that has been indoctrinated. If you have all the answeres to life, where we come from, where are we going , what's after death, please share this information with the world. But remember you have to have absolute proof orits not real.
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In this world we praise education, so how does thinking with an education mean someone's raising Satan above all of creation? The more educated I become the more I question, this is fact. Although I question and believe different things, the light is being brought to me by my wanting to know as much as I can. Knowledge has kept me alive, my heart hasn't gave out because I had a reason to wake up, that reason was wanting to understand everything. So help me understand why it is anyone outside of the realm of stereotypical religious is automatically a demon worshipper?
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 Quoting: serpents666


In this world we praise education,your words not mine. Basically the same word the serpent used to eve, knowledge. Thing is that you are wrong you praise knowledge, some of us praise God and believe what he said. Your first post tells all about who you are and what your belief is. If you wanted to know as much as you can why does it bother you so much that Christians believe in God. You choose to be a demon worshipper by rejecting God
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Was hoping I'd see more proof about anyone's beliefs. I have an open mind, proof speaks more than silence. Reject my beliefs if one wants, show me yours, show me your proof. I am ready for it..
 Quoting: serpents666


Liar, you only want to make yourself look like you know something.
If you weresosmart then you would realize that religion is based on faith.
Look up the word faith, it's the belief in something that can't be physically proven. So you have the burden of proof, prove its not real, prove I am wrong and you are right.. End of. The debate
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Serpent666? No thanks.
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So you are enlightened? end
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To simply put if you are not 'fluid' with an egregore, that is a collective group mind or thought, then you create friction.

People have constructed bubble illusions to act as comfort zones for their reality. If someone has a different thought or opinion that does not work, you get a fight or flight reaction more than often with indoctrinated folks.

In the case of indoctrinated people, all they know is what they know and what they can learn is limited by the platform of thought they are working with, in most cases pages from a book handed to them by authority figures.
 Quoting: TheBrainSupreme
-clappa-
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67244968

Indoctrinated people? Your to simple to realize that you are the one that has been indoctrinated. If you have all the answeres to life, where we come from, where are we going , what's after death, please share this information with the world. But remember you have to have absolute proof orits not real.
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Slogan'izing:

An enlightened individual will notice how some ideas create friction within a collective mind via their fight or flight sensation.
Dare to dream
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In this world we praise education, so how does thinking with an education mean someone's raising Satan above all of creation? The more educated I become the more I question, this is fact. Although I question and believe different things, the light is being brought to me by my wanting to know as much as I can. Knowledge has kept me alive, my heart hasn't gave out because I had a reason to wake up, that reason was wanting to understand everything. So help me understand why it is anyone outside of the realm of stereotypical religious is automatically a demon worshipper?
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 Quoting: serpents666


Me too, OP. The tree of knowledge was destined for humanity, but Adam ate too soon and good and evil manifested as polarities. We are on the way back to Eden and knowledge is synonymous with the incoming messianic era, when knowledge will cover the earth like water covers the sea.
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To simply put if you are not 'fluid' with an egregore, that is a collective group mind or thought, then you create friction.

People have constructed bubble illusions to act as comfort zones for their reality. If someone has a different thought or opinion that does not work, you get a fight or flight reaction more than often with indoctrinated folks.

In the case of indoctrinated people, all they know is what they know and what they can learn is limited by the platform of thought they are working with, in most cases pages from a book handed to them by authority figures.
 Quoting: TheBrainSupreme


clappa
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Indoctrinated people? Your to simple to realize that you are the one that has been indoctrinated. If you have all the answeres to life, where we come from, where are we going , what's after death, please share this information with the world. But remember you have to have absolute proof orits not real.
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I don't need proof to make something real.
The very fact that you require this probably indicates a follower mentality.
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Here is the big secret. Not even indoctrinated people really get it.

Indoctrinated people doubt. It is the stem of their fear and is the blazing neon sign that says "you're doing it all wrong".

You see if they had no doubt, they wouldn't believe, they would know. If they knew, there would be no reason to defend their viewpoint and only a reason to understand another's viewpoint better.
 Quoting: TheBrainSupreme


I see why your pseudonym is TheBrainSupreme, you understand. This is exactly where my mind is lol. It's so hard for them to just have an intellectual debate.
 Quoting: serpents666


They can't have an intellectual debate because they've been taught by their religion to let the church and the Bible do their thinking for them. They are not to question anything for fear of going to hell, which is so ingrained in them that they actually fear going to hell if they don't toe the religious line they've been taught since babyhood. Ask them a question where they need to think and their mind slams shut so they quote scripture.





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