The Body Fuels The Mind

the body is the mind the mind is the body its one organism you brain extends out via your nervous system all over your body

I'm glad someone said it!!

Don't you love when a thread posits to have all the answers to suffering, yet disappoints us with a Joe Rogan video and some unintelligent lecture given through OP's mislead and uninformed opinion? Who pins this shit?

Don't drink the kool-aid, that's one way to keep your 'temple' from being knocked over by the Pyramid they built next door.

You may have missed the whole point as well....

The only people who DO get into shape are the one who've FIRST made up their minds to do so.

In your bolded comment above, who is the 'you' you refer to that has to force yourself.....?

The brain is a vehicle, a conduit per se, whereby your consciousness expresses itself in, and animates, the physical body - not the other way around.

People who look in the mirror and complain about their 'fatness' are allowing themselves to be governed by the conditions they see, which is a manifestation of their already and continued belief and focus on their 'fatness'.

People who look in the mirror and say, that's ok, I can change this, the first thing they do is change their 'mind' about how they perceive themselves. They don't let the conditions get in the way. And once they do make up their minds to change things, the body follows suit.

I mean, anyone who has ever seen anyone accomplish greatness (physical or spiritual) either within themselves or others, has first seen that person 'make up their minds' to achieve greatness.

"You are what you think" are not just pretty words - they are serious words to live by..... it all begins with thought and you always get to choose if the thought is what you deem 'good' or 'bad'.

I like this :)

The SOUL fuels the physical body, when the SOUL leaves the body dies.

The SOUL/SOL is your inner SOULAR/SOLAR sun.

When two SOULS are connected in the physical realm such as husband and wife, and one dies leaving the other broken hearted, then the other physically alive will sometimes pass away soon after from the broken SOUL.There are many stories of this happening and the person with the broken SOUL usually dies with no other known health related problems.

Most all Solar systems have two SOLS, sometimes both seen and are known as binary SOLAR systems.(random fact)

I fully agree with you.. I have been contemplating this like a chicken or egg experiment for days. and your post has helped greatly.

I got healthy and stopped drinking and smoking and working out regularly... then started meditating and became wise to make even better healthy decisions.
I then started an even better diet and stopped eating all acidic and disease implementing diets - but have stopped the exercise and meditation... well EVERYTHING else isn't working out(no pun intended) I need to get the blood flowing and oxygen that I use to! I need to stop eating badly. the junk and preservatives have made their way back into my body and it has to stop. I know I need to correct what I'm putting into my body before what comes out is pure!

We need more NATURE!
And we need zero RULERS!

yes..ticks..are really healthy

You have it TOTALLY backwards.

The body is a manifestation of the mind.

All there is is mind.

A brain scan of a schizophrenic is exactly the same as a brain scan of someone meditating.

Mind fuels body or body fuels mind?

We'll argue over that for eons...everyone thinks they know.

The reality we experience proves to us what is truth.

If we take narcotic drugs - there's no way your mind can overpower the effect of those drugs on the physical body.
We all have to wait for the drugs to be broken down by the body and wait for normality of mind to return.

We cannot 'think' ourselves sober.

There are those with amazing minds/spirit/soul connection who have terrible physical illnesses.

We must not forget we live in a physical reality. THAT reality is what predominates in THIS realm.

I don't believe one word of the garbage you posted here. I and many others are living contradictions to your "explanation" of kharmic fate, predestination, esotericism, or whatever else you want to call it. Your belief system renders permanent change impossible, and drastically underestimates the power of the human spirit and body. It takes away any personal accountability or responsibility one might have for their current condition and promotes a powerless, victim mentality. No thanks, try it on someone who doesn't know better. BTW, thanks for trying to hijack my thread with your nonsense.

I can't wait for the ice to go away and I can run outside again...putting in for another NYC marathon. Have done 2 already...3 is the charm....

Says the couch potato as he sucks down another soda and complains about his type 2 diabetes.



Last Edited by Rising Son on 02/13/2015 03:57 PM

Don't get out of the basement much, do ya? As Dale Earnhardt put it, "...you best tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so those ants don't crawl up and eat that candy ass."

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Well done :-) I never got to do NYC, but I have done the Marine Corps marathon in DC.

"We are not primarily biological, with mind emerging as a kind of iridescence, a kind of epiphenomenon at the higher levels of organization of biology. We are hyperspatial objects of some sort that cast a shadow onto matter. The shadow in matter is our physical organism.

At death, the thing that casts the shadow withdraws, and metabolism ceases. Material form breaks down; it ceases to be a dissipative structure in a very localized area, sustained against entropy by cycling material in, extracting energy, and expelling waste. But the form that ordered it is not affected. These declarative statements are made from the point of view of the shamanic tradition, which touches all higher religions. Both the psychedelic dream state and the waking psychedelic state acquire great import because they reveal to life a task: to become familiar with this dimension that is causing being, in order to be familiar with it at the moment of passing from life.

The metaphor of a vehicle—an after-death vehicle, an astral body—is used by several traditions. Shamanism and certain yogas, including Taoist yoga, claim very clearly that the purpose of life is to familiarize oneself with this after-death body so that the act of dying will not create confusion in the pysche." ~Terrence Mckenna

It's a two-way relationship... You've heard of psychosomatic conditions/disorders? Your mind can literally make your body ill...

She posts!

yup, the same way the balls fuel the penis.

The testicle, if taken from sack, looks like the brain. Coincidence? Nope.

I understand that, and I agree - but I assume you've also heard of parasympathetic response and mimicry. The mere act of smiling can make you happier, and so can proper exercise and diet. The state of the body and mind are mutually inclusive and directly proportional to each other, but for someone who is weak in both mind and body, you need physical stimulation wrt both exercise and diet to increase nutrition and circulation to your mind to promote healing.

You are confusing a basic cognitive thought or decision with overall mental and emotional well being, and strength of will. You can make the decision to go for a run, and your basic motor functions are controlled in the brain, but it isn't until during and after that run that your overall well being is improved. You cannot simply think yourself into shape, especially when your mind is in an unhealthy state.

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great post OP! I have neglected my body badly for many years. i have now stopped smoking (both cigs and joints) and drinking. I'm starting to jog again. Still feel like shit due to withdrawal effects, but I know it'll be much better soon. Thanks for your extra motivation!

Funny how a few esoteric punks keep arguing in this thread about what rules what, soul mind and body. They just repeat stuff they have read, without deeper understanding. A true spiritual approach would never argue like that becquse it understands that it's all one and interconnected. ThEre is no "ruler". if soul, mind and body work togethet in harmony and synergy you feel great and can realize your ultimate potential. If not, the handbrake is still on, it's that simple. Time to take it off!

Well done - many have not made it to the point you are, and things will continue to get better as your body gets acclimated. Many of the critics have never experienced the transformation that occurs when you get back in shape, and they often try to make excuses or arguments to justify themselves. Of course that attitude is self defeating, and they are denying themselves a much better life.

OP: It was never my intent to hijack your thread. If you feel this is so, I apologize. But, I will gently remind you of one thing I did mention in my responses: that the soul that enters your body at birth cannot be changed as it's course is pre-destined. You may alter how it progresses, but nothing more.

Good night.

I commend you for your civility, you showed more class and maturity in your response than I did. I think we have hit an impasse where our beliefs diverge. I believe that your soul can be altered, I believe it can be poisoned, and I also believe it can be cleansed. I believe we are our soul, and our bodies are vessels of that soul. I believe that as one suffers or grows stronger, so too will the other.

I'm sorry but I refuse to believe our soul is predestined at birth, in my mind that eliminates the purpose of our life experience - to grow and improve ourselves through our failures and our successes. I do believe that our Creator has a divine plan for each of us, and as we grow closer to Him in our endeavor to improve our conscious contact with Him through our personal discovery and betterment, we may begin to have our purpose revealed to us. That only happens through our efforts to improve ourselves and to cleanse the spiritual conduit between our soul and God.

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congrats on Marine Corps....if I don't get into NYC...that is my next venture...I hear it is a moving experience watching those marines run in full gear....God bless them and America.