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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52035693 Hong Kong 02/03/2015 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | German Tiger I heavy tanks of the 2nd SS Panzer Division "Das Reich" advance near Kirovograd, Ukraine, 1943. #WW2 [link to twitter.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52035693 Hong Kong 02/03/2015 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Civilians frantically try to evacuate #Debaltseve amid fighting #photos here Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52035693 [link to twitter.com (secure)] that's sad There is also video: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Also note that: those people are from the area what was long time under control of Kiev. They obviously hate Kiev government and Poroshenko (be damned, Poroshenko I can hear). Also they said that Kiev NazGuard shelled their homes if I nderstood correctly. And just another one note - responsibility for lifes of those civilists was left on "evil terrorists", Novorossiyan army. Kiev forces did not evacueted them. This clearly shows how scumbags in Kiev cares about their people in estern regions. Yes, this is ethnic cleansing conducted by Kiev sockpuppets! Yes, but this time the world remains silent. |
firinne
(OP) User ID: 40104693 Ireland 02/03/2015 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Civilians frantically try to evacuate #Debaltseve amid fighting #photos here Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52035693 [link to twitter.com (secure)] that's sad There is also video: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Also note that: those people are from the area what was long time under control of Kiev. They obviously hate Kiev government and Poroshenko (be damned, Poroshenko I can hear). Also they said that Kiev NazGuard shelled their homes if I nderstood correctly. And just another one note - responsibility for lifes of those civilists was left on "evil terrorists", Novorossiyan army. Kiev forces did not evacueted them. This clearly shows how scumbags in Kiev cares about their people in estern regions. Yes, this is ethnic cleansing conducted by Kiev sockpuppets! If you could get one with subs, that would be great Zod People in the west need to see this shit! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52035693 Hong Kong 02/03/2015 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Civilians frantically try to evacuate #Debaltseve amid fighting #photos here Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52035693 [link to twitter.com (secure)] that's sad There is also video: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Also note that: those people are from the area what was long time under control of Kiev. They obviously hate Kiev government and Poroshenko (be damned, Poroshenko I can hear). Also they said that Kiev NazGuard shelled their homes if I nderstood correctly. And just another one note - responsibility for lifes of those civilists was left on "evil terrorists", Novorossiyan army. Kiev forces did not evacueted them. This clearly shows how scumbags in Kiev cares about their people in estern regions. Yes, this is ethnic cleansing conducted by Kiev sockpuppets! If you could get one with subs, that would be great Zod People in the west need to see this shit! Not sure about this one. Haven't watched yet [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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firinne
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KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 67662738 Czechia 02/03/2015 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Civilians frantically try to evacuate #Debaltseve amid fighting #photos here Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52035693 [link to twitter.com (secure)] that's sad There is also video: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Also note that: those people are from the area what was long time under control of Kiev. They obviously hate Kiev government and Poroshenko (be damned, Poroshenko I can hear). Also they said that Kiev NazGuard shelled their homes if I nderstood correctly. And just another one note - responsibility for lifes of those civilists was left on "evil terrorists", Novorossiyan army. Kiev forces did not evacueted them. This clearly shows how scumbags in Kiev cares about their people in estern regions. Yes, this is ethnic cleansing conducted by Kiev sockpuppets! If you could get one with subs, that would be great Zod People in the west need to see this shit! Jeez, I am so pissed. It heavily affected my post. There is large number of mistakes... Never mind, here you go: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Last Edited by KneelB4Zod! on 02/03/2015 05:36 PM “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Böze_Tante
User ID: 67651162 Germany 02/03/2015 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Zod. The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is). No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms. It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people. That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”. |
firinne
(OP) User ID: 40104693 Ireland 02/03/2015 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aleksandr Zakharchenko “If Poroshenko thinks that his army can compete with ours, let him see how quickly we took Uglegorsk,” “They are throwing into battle untrained reservists who can’t even tell the business end of a rifle. We have high morale, we have lived here, we live here now, and will continue to do so, this is our land,” Last Edited by firinne on 02/03/2015 05:39 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52035693 Hong Kong 02/03/2015 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jacek Saryusz-Wolski @JSaryuszWolski "Russian refusal 2 help implement Minsk agr. may leave Western countries with no choice but 2 deliver defense equip." [link to www.spiegel.de] |
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User ID: 67662738 Czechia 02/03/2015 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 67662738 Czechia 02/03/2015 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What,s hapenned to that violent broke into Kiev's Parliament? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67673582 Quiet now? They will come tomorrow again they said... Last Edited by KneelB4Zod! on 02/03/2015 05:54 PM “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
firinne
(OP) User ID: 40104693 Ireland 02/03/2015 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also note that: those people are from the area what was long time under control of Kiev. They obviously hate Kiev government and Poroshenko (be damned, Poroshenko I can hear). Also they said that Kiev NazGuard shelled their homes if I nderstood correctly. And just another one note - responsibility for lifes of those civilists was left on "evil terrorists", Novorossiyan army. Kiev forces did not evacueted them. This clearly shows how scumbags in Kiev cares about their people in estern regions. Yes, this is ethnic cleansing conducted by Kiev sockpuppets! If you could get one with subs, that would be great Zod People in the west need to see this shit! Jeez, I am so pissed. It heavily affected my post. There is large number of mistakes... Never mind, here you go: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Cheers Zod I have posted links to a couple of other forums, together we can do our bit to show the world whats really happening in Ukraine, and just maybe we can help put a stop to this madness sooner. |
KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 67662738 Czechia 02/03/2015 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aleksandr Zakharchenko Quoting: firinne “If Poroshenko thinks that his army can compete with ours, let him see how quickly we took Uglegorsk,” “They are throwing into battle untrained reservists who can’t even tell the business end of a rifle. We have high morale, we have lived here, we live here now, and will continue to do so, this is our land,” “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 67662738 Czechia 02/03/2015 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: KneelB4Zod! Also note that: those people are from the area what was long time under control of Kiev. They obviously hate Kiev government and Poroshenko (be damned, Poroshenko I can hear). Also they said that Kiev NazGuard shelled their homes if I nderstood correctly. And just another one note - responsibility for lifes of those civilists was left on "evil terrorists", Novorossiyan army. Kiev forces did not evacueted them. This clearly shows how scumbags in Kiev cares about their people in estern regions. Yes, this is ethnic cleansing conducted by Kiev sockpuppets! If you could get one with subs, that would be great Zod People in the west need to see this shit! Jeez, I am so pissed. It heavily affected my post. There is large number of mistakes... Never mind, here you go: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Cheers Zod I have posted links to a couple of other forums, together we can do our bit to show the world whats really happening in Ukraine, and just maybe we can help put a stop to this madness sooner. “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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User ID: 67662738 Czechia 02/03/2015 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh good, thank you firinne! We need this thread, I can't take any more of the other one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53640197 I know I just had a wee look and its turned into a thread debating about not debating... Problem is that how te deal with notorious trolls and thread derailers. One thing is meaningful discussion and other things are pointless litany, whining and attacking other users... “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
KneelB4Zod!
User ID: 67662738 Czechia 02/03/2015 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'No doubt' America will give us weapons, says Ukraine, amid fears of 'catastrophic' escalation Quoting: firinne Telegraph UK It will be nice. Novorossiyan army with confiscated Javelines... “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
firinne
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firinne
(OP) User ID: 40104693 Ireland 02/03/2015 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh good, thank you firinne! We need this thread, I can't take any more of the other one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53640197 I know I just had a wee look and its turned into a thread debating about not debating... Problem is that how te deal with notorious trolls and thread derailers. One thing is meaningful discussion and other things are pointless litany, whining and attacking other users... Your going to get that anyway, remember the NWO shills will purpously try to derail the thread because of the amount of good info coming forth. My rules are simple.. 1, post what you like 2, If you dont like what a poster is saying put them on your ignore list 3, Debunk the shills 4, enjoy the thread |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60286568 Japan 02/03/2015 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are also the same shills that endlessly and repeatedly try to convince you that America and Americans doesn't deserve to exist either. Is there a connection? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67667686 Austria 02/03/2015 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] Does not sound good, Poroshenko is to meet Stoltenberg(NATO) this week also. [link to time-ua.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39626624 United Kingdom 02/03/2015 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The numerous Russian shills and hasbara trolls all will tell you that Ukraine doesnt deserve to exist despite it's declared independence in the late 1990's. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60286568 They are also the same shills that endlessly and repeatedly try to convince you that America and Americans doesn't deserve to exist either. Is there a connection? No |
firinne
(OP) User ID: 40104693 Ireland 02/03/2015 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The numerous Russian shills and hasbara trolls all will tell you that Ukraine doesnt deserve to exist despite it's declared independence in the late 1990's. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60286568 They are also the same shills that endlessly and repeatedly try to convince you that America and Americans doesn't deserve to exist either. Is there a connection? At the end of the cold war, America had the chance to promote and sustain world peace, THEY BLEW IT. However, as this website shows, there are many, many good Americans, on the side of humanity, I,m with them. |
Böze_Tante
User ID: 67651162 Germany 02/03/2015 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jacek Saryusz-Wolski @JSaryuszWolski Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52035693 "Russian refusal 2 help implement Minsk agr. may leave Western countries with no choice but 2 deliver defense equip." [link to www.spiegel.de] Oh, that's new, the comments are hidden when you don't sign in ... I will look for the German article. The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is). No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms. It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people. That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”. |