excited to share info re: dyatlov pass incident

Next thing to cover will be tell tale signs of something producing great heat just outside the door to tent (snow melted producing ice that was so bad the search party had to take off their skies just to approach tent) along with the tops of trees being burn from above at point of the den they built at the ravine not far from the infamous cedar tree. Add to that the multiple dead birds on the ground right there (found by searchers, photos of all of this) they heat source was clearly following them with a delayed response in the order they left to seek other shelter. It would have gone right over them on its way to the cedar tree but continued to the tree and stayed there long enough, just like the tent, to give evidence of heat. It had a delayed response and moved slow, at least at first. This would explain the time they had in the tent to set up the tripod and camera to photograph the brilliant light from inside the tent (prior to cutting a window in one side of the tent the cutting large exist on the opposite side facing the cedar they were going to go to next)in fact they had enough time to change the camera lense to the blight light filter. It was dark and the moon gave off no light that night. No campfire outside the tent. I'm ready for some feedback but i have a ton more to cover, clearly. **for the record i don't believe in aliens, yetes, or the stupid avalanche theory**

Well, you've thought it through and you're now proposing a hypothesis that rearranges the timeline. Your argument seems plausible enough to me. But I'm not sure this will serve to explain anything of importance.

Keep on thinking about it, though. The "when" question is less important than the "what (exactly happened)", "why", "who (dunnit) ", and "how" questions.

This is just the beginning! We need to establish the timeline in order to discuss when and how they exited the tent. I do not think the leaving of the tent was as rushed and panicked as the mainstream supposes. This is very important. It changes the possibilities of what the event at the tent could be. Drastically.

What has a flashpoint in subzero temperatures

Thanks for all your hard thinking. You might manage to come up with an explanation that no one else has offered.

Here's a working link to the site that the opening post referenced:

[link to www.viafanzine.jor.br]

Even better, here's the link to the Google Translate page that magically changes the Portuguese to English:

[link to translate.google.com (secure)]

Mind u, im supposing multiple events in the final time line people. The only thing against all of this is the shoes neatly stacked in piles in the tent. On the topic of shoes, each had three pairs. One for skis, one for snow shoes, one for sleeping. most did not have their shoes on. The ones with the shoes had the worst internal injuries. Odd.

I believe somoness was testing a weapon that used nuclear energy as its source

The remains looked like they had experienced a nuclear accident

just my 2 cents

The light dusting of a faint violet powder on the bodies at the revine proved to have a higher amount of radiation than normal. Not super high. This prompted the outside testing by the coroner, although the Geiger counter brought to the seen right away also makes it a bit suspicious. This violet dusting which landed on their clothes was easily washed away. I believe it came from above. The theories about the lamps, the school labs, and even the member that participated in the nuclear clean up a couple years before don't hold up at all, throw those away)

Sorry for typos, I'm in love with the mystery :)

it was 1959,

c'mon, try remote view

otherwise, move along

it was 1959 !!!

Great find!
Thanks for all your good resarch OP.

My theory: They were all in the tent, preparing their stove for dinner & what not, the tent unknowingly filling with gas or vapor from their cooking fuel so when they went to light it... Poof!

they all fled, some shoeless, in flames.

Remember: they all fled the tent, like it was hell on earth in there.

Very Bizarre Story!

From what i can remember from reading into the story, one of them had the time and energy to Climb a tree. Photographic(i think) evidnece shows this. A few of them rushed half naked fromt the tent to the tree's which (i think) was about 100 -150 yards distance.

Gonna dig into it again....

Correct, first thing most of them did was head for the treeline and build a fire on the onside not visible from the tent. Evidence they repeatedly climbed the tree to observe the tent. They had a knife to make a window in the tree. The could see the tent which is impossible with no moonlight. The heat source illuminated but did not set the tent on fire nor were there burn marks. It was still there after they fled, hense my delay theory. These two were the first to die of exposure. Their friends found them took the clothes put them on and gently laid the bodies next to each other not as they found them undoubtedly in the fetal position they would be in as typical for hypothermia. It was done kindly and with respect. I believe this group was not there as the we're close by building the den when they died.

Possible.

Although the problem i have with that theory is that it was a mountain slope where this incident happened with tree's. I would imagine if you were testing anything of the sort, you would want to do it on a flat landscape, which Russia has many many square miles of in that region.

Page four of my source goes into numerous reports of the lights above the mountain that night and the few months after. These accounts were diliberately left out of the record. The area was known, at least since the year 1534, to have strange electromagnetic phenomenon - similar to Burma triangle accounts. We have a long history of fire balls which can hover, move down the mountain and break apart. We have the infamous orange floating orbs that can hover and almost diliberately move on their own and we have lightening that can start at one mountain peak and hit another peak. Repeatedly. None of these are the one in question. The one we are needing to look at is the strange occilating light which is white, approximately the size of the moon giving off a white halo of cloud around it (heat, steam??). it can hover, move, alter it's brightness, and even shoot off smaller versions of it self in another direction. After some time it will produce and staticy electrical sound and simply vanish. This it what was seen by another ski tour on the other side of the mountain that night and by many many other witnesses in the 3 months following the night of the event. This is key. One journalist was even repremanded for printing a brief acct. The head dyatlov investigator was ordered to not include any witness accounts and later admitted to it. Both he and yuri yudin, 10th member that had to go back early due to dissentary, say they are convinced the lights are a clue and the military not only knew about them but tried to cover up the reports. Read the descriptions. Incredible stuff.

research was actively compiling data on the "fireballs". In the criminal investigation of perishing of Igor Dyatlov group, reports on the phenomenon had been delivered and filed, even though it was not subsequently carried out research in this direction. Here, details of some of these reports.

Georgy Atmanaki (young engineer, a member of Vladislav Karelin group, which was also in walk by the North Ural, participant of searches by Dyatlov group, quoted by us in Part 2) provided the following account:

"On February 17, I and Vladimir Shevkunov got up at 6:00 am to prepare breakfast for the group. Igniting the fire and doing everything necessary, we begin to expect that food was ready. The sky was gloomy, there were no clouds, but a light mist, which is normally dissipated at sunrise. Sitting with his face to the north and casually turning his head to the east, saw in the sky (...) poured into a blur of color milky white, about 5 or 6 lunar diameter and composed of a series of concentric circles. The shape resembled a halo is formed around the moon during the time course and ice cream.

I made a comment to my partner, to behold as the moon was decorated. He thought for a moment and said that first, there is no moon and, moreover, it must be on the opposite side. From the moment when we had observed this phenomenon, it took 1 to 2 minutes; I do not know how long it would have lasted earlier, not as had originally related. At this time, the center of this blur, shone one starlet, who for a few seconds kept the same size, but soon began to dramatically increase in size and move quickly towards the west. Within seconds, she had grown to the size of the moon, and then breaking the smoke screen, or the clouds, appeared as a huge flaming disk milky color, size 2 or 2.5 lunar diameters, surrounded by the same rings of pale color. Then, keeping the same dimensions, the ball began to fade until it merged with the surrounding halo, which, in turn, spread across the sky and extinguished.

Began the break of day. The clock showed 6:57, the phenomenon did not last more than a minute and a half, and caused a slight impression nothing. Initially, do not pay attention to him, but then, when it appeared the very bright disk, we were amazed. Personally, I had the impression that our way was falling a celestial body, and then, when he had grown to such an enormous size, went through my brain the thought that another planet was getting in touch with the earth, which now follow a collision and would not be anything of the terrestrial world. We were already awake for over an hour, so we were able to ward off sleep and not give credence to hallucinations, but during the whole matter we stand, as if hypnotized ...

I do not know how Karelin, what a distance, managed to jump out of the sleeping bag and ran out, wearing the socks and underwear. He managed to catch sight of the album, which was losing the contours and light blur spreading across the sky. Later, I had to talk a lot with the witnesses, and most describes this case in much the same way, adding that the light was so strong that people in homes awoke from sleep. (...). Protocol written with my own hand. G. Atmanaki ".

Newspaper Note "Тагильск&#10​80;й рабочий" ("Workers of Taguíl") of 18 February 1959. In those days, the word "UFO" ("Unidentified Flying Object") was still unknown to Soviet citizens, so that the note was simply titled: "An unusual celestial phenomenon."

" At 6 hours and 55 minutes yesterday, local time, in the east-southeast, at a height of 20 degrees from the horizon appeared a brilliant ball the size of the apparent diameter of the moon, - wrote A. Kissel, deputy head of communications Vysokogorsky mine. The ball was moving toward the northeast.

Around 7 am, inside, there was a flash, becoming visible the very bright core of the ball. She herself began to shine more brightly, appearing near her a bright cloud, curved toward the south. The cloud was expanding to the entire eastern part of the sky. Soon after, there was a second flash, had the shape of the crescent. Gradually, the cloud increased in size; in the center, was the bright spot (the light was variable size). The ball was moving east-northeast direction. The greater height above the horizon, 30 degrees, is reached in about the 7:05. Continuing the movement, this unusual phenomenon was weakening and wearing.

Thinking that this would be connected in some way with the satellite, I changed the receiver, but there was no reception of the signals . "

For this publication, the editor received a reprimand, and the note was filed paperwork between one of the most unusual criminal cases that have happened in Russia. In it, were carefully also filed other reports on such "phenomenon".

This is quite a good video for those not familiar with the incident...

I have great photos but I don't know how to post them...a little help? (Not the corpses I swear!)

You can upload them to [link to tinypic.com] or [link to postimage.org] Then link them here.

I'm hooked, I've been reading about this for the past three hours.

A couple of observations...

One of the sources says that per their footprints, the skiers left the tent in single file, one behind the other. It seems to me that someone had them under their control.

Why in the world would someone take a Geiger counter on the rescue mission?

How and why did Semen/Alexander, the 38yr. old with four war medals, hook-up with a bunch of 20 yr. olds to go on a skiing expedition and why did he lie to them about his name?

I haven't read the article you recommended, but will soon.

Demons

Someone who was fully clothed and had obviously been outside, came into the tent and told the rest something that made them cut a hole in the tent and leave thru it in a hurry, barefoot and coatless, heading towards the woods. They hid in the branches of a large Cedar tree and cut themselves a "window" so they could look towards the tent.

There goes the avalanche theory.

A very bizarre case.

Thanks for the link OP and others, have not seen it before. Interesting to read thru with the Portuguese translation.

Am not sure we'll ever get to the bottom of this mystery. Because of the secrecy surrounding it in the beginning, not sure we'll ever get hold of all the facts and such.

At the following link, is a good article.. but the comment section below that is what caught my interest. Lots written there by others who have been studying this case a great deal. Here's one of those comments, which just adds to the mystery:

"Here are a couple of other interesting snippets, taken from another source: "A chance meeting...on a train with a medical assistant at the accident site - Maria Ivanovna - revealed that she recalled 11 bodies being discovered and not nine. Two were hurriedly removed to a destination unknown to her." and "Yuri Yarovoi (a Sverdlovsk writer and journalist who was the photographer for the original rescue mission and later involved in the inquest) wrote a fictional book entitled 'of the highest Rank of complexity'.." (a romanticized version of this incident) "He was allegedly made to rewrite it twice before the authorities permitted its publication. In this version only the team leader dies. Now this is the interesting part: Yuri and his wife were killed in a car crash in the mid 1980's a few short years before the partial declassification of the Dyatlov papers. According to this source all his papers, records and private notes of the Dyatlov Pass Incident have gone missing."

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

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From all that I've read so far... it seems to me that two of the group did go out, likely to relieve themselves and perhaps have a smoke (the women had written in their earlier diary they didn't want the men smoking inside the tent).

I do agree those two saw/heard something, perhaps yelling out to the others, but I don't think that the first two went back inside the tent to warn the others. It seems to me (and lord knows I could be wrong, lol), that at that warning, the danger itself was at/near the entrance of the tent.

If they 'could have' gone back into the tent to warn the others, why couldn't they have then all left the tent back thru the entrance? Seems like it had to have been blocked somehow.

And the footsteps leading from the tent thru the cuts in the side, seems to have gone in the opposite direction from the entrance. As if the danger was located at/near the entrance itself.

Many folks think that the first two went out, saw/heard the danger, shouted out a warning, and took off running. They think that three others came out to help, also took off running. They think that the last four inside the tent were the ones who cut the sides of the tent to get out.

Seems that it could have happened that way, or at some point they all decided to split up into the three groups.

I dunno. Still trying to piece things together too.

For sure tho... not an avalanche. lol

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There was some television programme about this that claimed that the film the hikers took show a bigfoot like shadow in the forest in the last exposed frame or among the last frames.

It this true or is it bullshit?

Some interesting misc info:

From all reports, there was no full moon that night, it 'should have been' pitch dark. So the two who climbed that tree.... made 'a window' in the branches of the tree looking back at the tent area. (where the danger supposedly originated, still was). If it were pitch dark out, why would they have made a window to see? Seems to me that some versions of this story is true, that whatever the danger was, it included heat bad enough to burn the victims, as well as light enough to light up the area.

Supposedly, one of the victims was found a few hundred feet from the tree still clutching a branch as if he had been dragged down from that tree.

For those into the curiousity of numbers:
the number 9 occurs 3 times in that same area...
9 Mansi in the area had previously died
this incident with 9 hikers dying in 1959
there was a fatal plane crash in the area in 1991.

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I saw a show on TV, where the Natives in that area, the Mansi tribe.. reported encounters with Yeti, a type of bigfoot, that runs in the woods in that same area. At least 9 of the Mansi tribe disappeared just prior to the deaths of the 9 hikers. On that TV show, they showed footage from one of the hiker's cams with a pic they caught earlier in/near the woods that caught the shadow of something running around in those woods, which surely looked like it could be bigfoot/Yeti.

One of the hikers had a cam on a tripod in/near the tent, which managed to catch several frames of 'something', which seems to have been what scared them. Those pics are shown in the links provided by the OP, upthread. Doesn't seem to be a Yeti, or bigfoot, appears to be one or more fireballs/UFOs. Maybe a UFO with a fireball coming off it? Not really sure.

I don't think the Yeti/bigfoot thing was fake, I do believe that is going on in the area too, especially as the Mansi have been warning about it. I just don't think that it was a Yeti/bigfoot that attacked the 9 hikers. That could explain the crushing injuries they received before death.... but does not explain their burns, radiation, whatever they inhaled, the foam, the varying colors of their skin, etc.

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An interesting video:

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Also strange, and unexplained:

(from notes I took from that TV show about this):

As mentioned already, some of the 9 hikers had orange looking skin. As if they had radiation poisoning. Also said was that the bodies had suffered from 'significant age progression, some had gray hair'. ??

Not only what would have caused the burns and other injuries.. but age progression too, and caused their hair to turn grey.

Very weird.

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Some questions, as they occur to me:

It appears from looking at pics of the tent, (at link provided upthread).. that a large amount of snow on top of the tent, seems to have collapsed the tent. Yet nearby footprints of the 9 hikers leading from the tent in the direction of the tree and the woods, were not covered by snow.

Why so much snow on the tent, but not enough snow to have covered the footprints? Why doesn't this seem to be addressed anywhere? What am I missing?

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