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Anonymous Coward User ID: 60744132 United States 01/22/2015 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With an overreaching and immensely powerful federal government, an unrestricted and brutal police force designed to trample citizens' rights to protect that corrupt government, and a benign and pacified citizenry who are indifferent to the corrupt police state they live in as long as their level of comfort is not interfered with, what would our founding fathers think of what has become of their grand experiment of liberty? Not only have we lost sight of the importance and necessity of personal and collective liberty, but we have also become willing slaves to the mechanism that has put us in shackles by bribing us with empty promises of security and comfort. This country needs a reset to return it to what it once was. This is why the concept of an armed citizenry is so uncomfortable to those in power, and if we continue along the apathetic and powerless road we have been traveling down, those in power will get exactly what they want. If liberty and freedom from an oppressive government is not our first priority, then we are doomed to remain slaves to that government. Quoting: Rising Son Until the Obama Idiocracy, it was always the custom that an American NEVER BOWS BEFORE A KING. Acknowledge, yes... A slight bend of the head. YES... But since the time we broke away from the Kingdom of Great Britain, no American Official has ever bowed before a King of another country. UNTIL OBAMA... With an overreaching and immensely powerful federal government, an unrestricted and brutal police force designed to trample citizens' rights to protect that corrupt government, and a benign and pacified citizenry who are indifferent to the corrupt police state they live in as long as their level of comfort is not interfered with, what would our founding fathers think of what has become of their grand experiment of liberty? Not only have we lost sight of the importance and necessity of personal and collective liberty, but we have also become willing slaves to the mechanism that has put us in shackles by bribing us with empty promises of security and comfort. This country needs a reset to return it to what it once was. This is why the concept of an armed citizenry is so uncomfortable to those in power, and if we continue along the apathetic and powerless road we have been traveling down, those in power will get exactly what they want. If liberty and freedom from an oppressive government is not our first priority, then we are doomed to remain slaves to that government. Quoting: Rising Son Until the Obama Idiocracy, it was always the custom that an American NEVER BOWS BEFORE A KING. Acknowledge, yes... A slight bend of the head. YES... But since the time we broke away from the Kingdom of Great Britain, no American Official has ever bowed before a King of another country. UNTIL OBAMA... Your right, only Emperors. Bush did that too. |
Joe Camel
User ID: 66550858 United States 01/22/2015 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Black men got the right to vote in 1870 Women got the right to vote in 1920. That tells you everything you need to know, especially how Liberals really feel about women. :SHR2: - Even if you don't take an interest in Politics, eventually Politics is going to take an interest in you. _ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46637320 United States 01/22/2015 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There would have been a revolution a long, long, long, long, long time ago, with the blood of patriots, and tyrants. But instead the tree of liberty is almost completely dead, and will remain that way, until the US and its history, is wiped from memory, and will only be thought about with found memories, until all those that lived in it, are dead and gone, and so it will be then as well, never to be repeated as an experiment, for it is a failed one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67067358 |
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Legion of Rage
User ID: 58692852 United States 01/22/2015 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd like to think they would have started a revolution 60 or 70 years ago. Quoting: Dr.Hill We were in the water when the heat was turned on so we'll probably be cooked before we realize it's too late. I tend to agree. I recall the Jefferson quote: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Seems today we are ripe with tyrants and too few real patriots. I doubt any of our so called leaders even know the true meaning of patriotism. Today's America is a sad shell of a reflection of what could have (and should have) been. Legion of Rage Death is merely continuation at another level |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56131215 Canada 01/22/2015 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually had a dream about George Washington. He was the General of an army, American continentals, he and they wore the old uniforms the whole thing. There was a war in the US, all around was modern warfare etc, and than there was the small battered continental army- suffice to say i think he would perceive the current US not the country he founded, and that the remains of what it was is quite under attack. The Americans that followed his command where quite loyal- even though they where not as well equipped to what was out there. This dream occurred in 2007 before I became aware of Ron Paul, found out RP after this dream! |
Toothless
User ID: 2620180 United States 01/22/2015 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The universe is basically an animal. It grazes on the ordinary. It creates infinite idiots just to eat them. The Rickest Rick Sanchez comments are meant for entertainment purposes only and should not be construed to reflect the feelings and opinions, implied or expressed, of the author. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58981445 United States 01/22/2015 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Joe Camel Black men got the right to vote in 1870 Women got the right to vote in 1920. That tells you everything you need to know, especially how Liberals really feel about women. :SHR2: For the record -- it was the REPUBLICANS who got the vote for Blacks and Women. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58981445 United States 01/22/2015 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually had a dream about George Washington. He was the General of an army, American continentals, he and they wore the old uniforms the whole thing. There was a war in the US, all around was modern warfare etc, and than there was the small battered continental army- suffice to say i think he would perceive the current US not the country he founded, and that the remains of what it was is quite under attack. The Americans that followed his command where quite loyal- even though they where not as well equipped to what was out there. This dream occurred in 2007 before I became aware of Ron Paul, found out RP after this dream! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56131215 You should read the prophecies of Washington re: a future invasion of the USA. Chuck Youngbrandt has similar visions. |
Merlin2Zfang1 User ID: 66087934 United States 01/22/2015 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They would choke from the pollution in the air before they would have a chance to speak, and than someone would hand them a glass of Fluoride laced water to clear their throats while they are being strip searched for their I.D. at the D.U.I. Check Point. Oh and being filmed by members of GLP ! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56131215 Canada 01/22/2015 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually had a dream about George Washington. He was the General of an army, American continentals, he and they wore the old uniforms the whole thing. There was a war in the US, all around was modern warfare etc, and than there was the small battered continental army- suffice to say i think he would perceive the current US not the country he founded, and that the remains of what it was is quite under attack. The Americans that followed his command where quite loyal- even though they where not as well equipped to what was out there. This dream occurred in 2007 before I became aware of Ron Paul, found out RP after this dream! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56131215 You should read the prophecies of Washington re: a future invasion of the USA. Chuck Youngbrandt has similar visions. Funny you should mention that, because in 2010, I dreamed about him again, here is the link to the thread I posted; Thread: Just a bad dream? I am the OP of that thread, there he mentions that the U.S. is to be invaded, and the American empire will come to an end. |
Let Freedom Ring 365
User ID: 63887857 United States 01/22/2015 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Need I say more? You are the creator of your own master plan... Make it a good one. Wake the fuk up and be ready... This is absolutely no time to be stupid! “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” - Nikola Tesla |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62816685 United States 01/22/2015 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With an overreaching and immensely powerful federal government, an unrestricted and brutal police force designed to trample citizens' rights to protect that corrupt government, and a benign and pacified citizenry who are indifferent to the corrupt police state they live in as long as their level of comfort is not interfered with, what would our founding fathers think of what has become of their grand experiment of liberty? Not only have we lost sight of the importance and necessity of personal and collective liberty, but we have also become willing slaves to the mechanism that has put us in shackles by bribing us with empty promises of security and comfort. This country needs a reset to return it to what it once was. This is why the concept of an armed citizenry is so uncomfortable to those in power, and if we continue along the apathetic and powerless road we have been traveling down, those in power will get exactly what they want. If liberty and freedom from an oppressive government is not our first priority, then we are doomed to remain slaves to that government. Quoting: Rising Son They would marvel that the US is one of the best places to live; that it is still the land of opportunity; that people are literally dying to get in; that we have one of the best Justice system's in the world; the list goes on. You don't like here? Then GET OUT! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58981445 United States 01/22/2015 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually had a dream about George Washington. He was the General of an army, American continentals, he and they wore the old uniforms the whole thing. There was a war in the US, all around was modern warfare etc, and than there was the small battered continental army- suffice to say i think he would perceive the current US not the country he founded, and that the remains of what it was is quite under attack. The Americans that followed his command where quite loyal- even though they where not as well equipped to what was out there. This dream occurred in 2007 before I became aware of Ron Paul, found out RP after this dream! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56131215 You should read the prophecies of Washington re: a future invasion of the USA. Chuck Youngbrandt has similar visions. Funny you should mention that, because in 2010, I dreamed about him again, here is the link to the thread I posted; Thread: Just a bad dream? I am the OP of that thread, there he mentions that the U.S. is to be invaded, and the American empire will come to an end. Well, good riddance to the empire. Why should we waste our money and sacrifice our troops for a bunch of hostile, ungrateful foreigners? But Washington, YOungbrandt, Sarah Hoffmann, and other visionaries agree on one thing: we WIN the Red Dawn war -- after a multi-year occupation, our guerillas defeat the invaders and restore American freedom. Which is all I really want on this earth.... |
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Rising Son
(OP) User ID: 64528201 United States 01/22/2015 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The solution to this mess is not an easy one, and it would have very little support from most Americans who don't want to part from their insulated, comfortable lives. Most people would not want to risk life and limb at the risk of sacrificing their Starbucks fed, comfy lives. They are content to give up their personal liberties as long as they can continue to live comfortably in their ignorance. The truth is that most people would not commit to this cause unless they were tangibly threatened, but for now they don't see that threat as real or legitimate, and the erosion of liberty that goes unchecked in this country is just a defeat of principle to them. It will have to get much, much worse before most Americans would be willing to commit, and by then - it will already be too late. I fear that what this country has become was always the inevitable outcome, that we have become the very thing our forefathers fought against. I can only hope that when the time comes for the American people to take back control of this country, that we have enough true patriots left to make that happen. "Be still, and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10 Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35600443 United States 01/22/2015 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Much like at the founding I think that ill mannered tyrants despoil the things of true integrity that they have not the vision, passion, nor perseverance to build. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66882854 I return now a stranger in a stranger land who can admit no more honest a response to my former country's ruination than woe fading into waking disinterest. George BRAVO! BRAVO! Well said! TY! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34653304 United States 01/22/2015 10:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | then "Government is instituted for the common good; for the protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness of the people; and not for profit, honor, or private interest of any one man, family, or class of men; therefore, the people alone have an incontestable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to institute government; and to reform, alter, or totally change the same, when their protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness require it." -Adams "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Franklin "It is impossible to govern the world without God and the Bible. Of all the dispositions and habits that lead to political prosperity, our religion and morality are the indispensable supporters. Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that our national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle." -Washington now "Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." - George W. Bush "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky." - Clinton “No, no. I have been practicing…I bowled a 129. It’s like — it was like Special Olympics, or something.” — Obama something like ~ burn it down. Start over. |
Getz
User ID: 64675415 United States 01/22/2015 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're pretty much left with the sort of distant, tyrannical, and out-of-control bureaucracy that they violently overthrew since we have neither a Congress or state governments to truly represent us and deal with it. |
Dirtyboy
User ID: 67284415 United States 01/22/2015 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have to remember that the original voting rights were granted to land owners. Most people did not own the land they lived on. In that respect the elite set up the original government to best serve themselves. They just took nobility out of the picture. The bill of rights came from the many abuses of the old British system. Of course the founding fathers didn't foresee the abuse, corruption and problems with the new system. Basically the setup of the government isn't that different than the United Kingdom. I don't think they expected the courts to update what applies. Speedy trial is a thing of the past. Guilt in many cases is based on how much money you have. Cruel and unjust punishment has a completely different meaning than 200 years ago. People today aren't the least bit embarrassed by their behavior. Today we have to legislate morality. Ethics means nothing so people get screwed all over until laws and regulations catch up. Corporate responsibility is held to the corporations and not to the directors. The states used to have a lot of power. They even controlled the budget. The federal government was not intended to dictate everything state governments do. Today, government in many places is the largest employer. States depend on runaway taxes at their own level and at the federal level. States today are dependent on federal money to remain functional. I doubt the founding fathers ever dreamed banks would run the entire economy. People used to save money but now that is a joke. Most people don't know how to save money. Banks pay almost nothing for deposits making most of their money from investments and credit card debt. I doubt the founding fathers ever dreamed of slum cites. I doubt they dreamed of cities where people die every day in senseless murders. I doubt they dreamed of supporting those who don't want to work (I don't mean those unable). Every government that forgot who they served has failed. If you don't care about the people they will eventually begin to fight back. Most people don't know the American revolution was about taxation without representation. It was about the House of Commons refusing to grant seats for the colonies while legislating unfair tax. We are living in a country today not much different than in old Europe where local governments would rob travelers for the right to entire their cities (called city wage tax now). We live in a country that is not bound by reasonable budgets and continue to borrow into extinction. Dirtyboy Think beyond impossible. |
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