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Jury Nullification: Why Every American Needs to Learn This Taboo Verdict | |
| McGuyver
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| The Old Timer
User ID: 64134821 United States01/08/2015 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  Yes yes.....your last stop-gap measure against bad laws Last Edited by The Old Timer on 01/08/2015 06:43 PM Lets go Brandon!! What doesn't kill us...makes us more interesting Either you live for something worth dying for....or you rot away and die on the installment plan quote: Mr Bill when I post something....I will remove any post I find disrespectful or offensive..... |
| Last Cause
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| The Old Timer
User ID: 64134821 United States01/08/2015 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you know that, no matter the evidence, if a jury feels a law is unjust, it is permitted to “nullify” the law rather than finding someone guilty? Basically, jury nullification is a jury’s way of saying, “By the letter of the law, the defendant is guilty, but we also disagree with that law, so we vote to not punish the accused.” Ultimately, the verdict serves as an acquittal. Quoting: McGuyver Haven’t heard of jury nullification? Don’t feel bad; you’re far from alone. If anything, your unfamiliarity is by design. Generally, defense lawyers are not allowed to even mention jury nullification as a possibility during a trial because judges prefer juries to follow the general protocols rather than delivering independent verdicts. Surprisingly, the Supreme Court has routinely agreed that judges have no obligation to inform juries about jury nullification. Paradoxically, jury nullification is permitted to exist as an option to all juries, yet this option cannot be discussed in most courtrooms. [link to truth-out.org] A lawyer takes an oath....like many in the "justice system"....however are you aware he swears to protect the law first....and you second Lets go Brandon!! What doesn't kill us...makes us more interesting Either you live for something worth dying for....or you rot away and die on the installment plan quote: Mr Bill when I post something....I will remove any post I find disrespectful or offensive..... |
| Last Cause
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| Tinfoil Couture
User ID: 58863116 United States01/08/2015 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He didn't even believe in judgment. Quoting: Last Cause He kept claiming he was powerless to use judgment, and that it wasn't his job to question the tickets cops write. Are you serious? Apparently he's never heard his job title said aloud. "Don't tell me truth hurts, little girl, 'cause it hurts like hell. --David Bowie |
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| Last Cause
User ID: 66823925 United States01/08/2015 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He didn't even believe in judgment. Quoting: Last Cause He kept claiming he was powerless to use judgment, and that it wasn't his job to question the tickets cops write. It's messed up when judges think deranged cops have the highest authority. I think it's by design. They want everyone to think any state employee, including traffic cops, has absolute authority. Here's how the judge described the accident: I hit the front of the other driver's car with the side of my stationary car - causing a large dent in the side of my car and causing the other, larger, heavier SUV to skid off the street. He thinks I can swing my car like a baseball bat and belt them out of the park. He wouldn't let me read the law to the jury, and he wouldn't let me give them copies of it to read for themselves. He rewrote the law to make me guilty. In his instructions to the jury, he said they weren't allowed to look at a dictionary. I thought it was absurd. Judges throw their own mad hatter's tea parties. Juries need to take the law back from these lunatics. But the jury was brain dead. Love is easy and messy. |
| Tinfoil Couture
User ID: 58863116 United States01/08/2015 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love the idea of jury nullification...I'd never heard of it before. Now I just need to get myself selected to a jury in a case where somebody's been accused of one of a bazillion dumbass laws... "Don't tell me truth hurts, little girl, 'cause it hurts like hell. --David Bowie |
| The Logos User ID: 55853432 United States01/08/2015 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Wookiee666
User ID: 62421844 United States01/08/2015 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some outfit used to hand out pamphlets about this on the courthouse steps in Vegas to prospective jurors. They haven't done it for a few years now, so they must have been banned. Warning: JustSomeGuy_42 is a publicly confessed unvaxxed neophiliac . If the number 666 is considered evil. then technically, 25.8069758 is the root of all evil. |
| Cheyenne
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| Last Cause
User ID: 66823925 United States01/08/2015 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He didn't even believe in judgment. Quoting: Last Cause He kept claiming he was powerless to use judgment, and that it wasn't his job to question the tickets cops write. Are you serious? Apparently he's never heard his job title said aloud. I couldn't believe it. I wrote complaints to the justice department, the mayor, the governor, and the local newspaper. I gave them smoking gun evidence that the judges destroyed evidence, lied in court, and tampered with evidence, as well as quoting the insane things they said. No one cared. The newspaper wouldn't print the story. I had to get out of town because I won't live under such insane authorities. Unfortunately, it is a only a local version of what is going on in our nation and world, where news services won't expose government corruption. And nobody seems to care. Jury nullification requires people who are passionate about truth and justice. Love is easy and messy. |
| Wookiee666
User ID: 62421844 United States01/08/2015 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He didn't even believe in judgment. Quoting: Last Cause He kept claiming he was powerless to use judgment, and that it wasn't his job to question the tickets cops write. It's messed up when judges think deranged cops have the highest authority. I think it's by design. They want everyone to think any state employee, including traffic cops, has absolute authority. Here's how the judge described the accident: I hit the front of the other driver's car with the side of my stationary car - causing a large dent in the side of my car and causing the other, larger, heavier SUV to skid off the street. He thinks I can swing my car like a baseball bat and belt them out of the park. He wouldn't let me read the law to the jury, and he wouldn't let me give them copies of it to read for themselves. He rewrote the law to make me guilty. In his instructions to the jury, he said they weren't allowed to look at a dictionary. I thought it was absurd. Judges throw their own mad hatter's tea parties. Juries need to take the law back from these lunatics. But the jury was brain dead. Most jurist are brain dead, I've sat in a couple just for fun. There's one or two that are power happy and the rest are followers, dumb, dumb followers. There really should be professional jurys. You know, people who can pass judgement based on facts and not the need of the so-called victims or the theatrics of idiot lawyers. Deep-pockets awards are disgusting. Warning: JustSomeGuy_42 is a publicly confessed unvaxxed neophiliac . If the number 666 is considered evil. then technically, 25.8069758 is the root of all evil. |
| Tinfoil Couture
User ID: 58863116 United States01/08/2015 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He didn't even believe in judgment. Quoting: Last Cause He kept claiming he was powerless to use judgment, and that it wasn't his job to question the tickets cops write. Are you serious? Apparently he's never heard his job title said aloud. I couldn't believe it. I wrote complaints to the justice department, the mayor, the governor, and the local newspaper. I gave them smoking gun evidence that the judges destroyed evidence, lied in court, and tampered with evidence, as well as quoting the insane things they said. No one cared. The newspaper wouldn't print the story. I had to get out of town because I won't live under such insane authorities. Unfortunately, it is a only a local version of what is going on in our nation and world, where news services won't expose government corruption. And nobody seems to care. Jury nullification requires people who are passionate about truth and justice. That's really frustrating. I'm sorry you had to go through that, but I applaud your perseverance. "Don't tell me truth hurts, little girl, 'cause it hurts like hell. --David Bowie |
| Eggcellent
Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 65052277 United States01/08/2015 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love the idea of jury nullification...I'd never heard of it before. Now I just need to get myself selected to a jury in a case where somebody's been accused of one of a bazillion dumbass laws... Quoting: Tinfoil Couture I know!! Next time they call me for jury duty THEY'LL be sorry, I'll bet they never do it again!!  Thanks, OP, 5 stars for you!! "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
| Last Cause
User ID: 66823925 United States01/08/2015 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Paradoxically, jury nullification is permitted to exist as an option to all juries Quoting: McGuyver This is to keep in place the notion that we are a free society. The judge actually agreed that juries could do that, but he forbid me to tell the jury, as well as forbidding me to show them the law. He gave with one hand and took right back with the other. He nullified nullification. Love is easy and messy. |
| Lil Sis
User ID: 11213558 United States01/08/2015 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He didn't even believe in judgment. Quoting: Last Cause He kept claiming he was powerless to use judgment, and that it wasn't his job to question the tickets cops write. Are you serious? Apparently he's never heard his job title said aloud. Most people don't listen anyway... ************************************************************************ Corruptisima re publica plurimae leges. ~ Terence |
| Lil Sis
User ID: 11213558 United States01/08/2015 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | double post, sorry Last Edited by Lil Sis on 01/08/2015 07:18 PM ************************************************************************ Corruptisima re publica plurimae leges. ~ Terence |
| JohnDonson
User ID: 65368837 United States01/08/2015 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm certain Mary Jane will be following the same path JohnDonson |
| A Muse
User ID: 64243088 United States01/08/2015 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you know that, no matter the evidence, if a jury feels a law is unjust, it is permitted to “nullify” the law rather than finding someone guilty? Basically, jury nullification is a jury’s way of saying, “By the letter of the law, the defendant is guilty, but we also disagree with that law, so we vote to not punish the accused.” Ultimately, the verdict serves as an acquittal. Quoting: McGuyver Haven’t heard of jury nullification? Don’t feel bad; you’re far from alone. If anything, your unfamiliarity is by design. Generally, defense lawyers are not allowed to even mention jury nullification as a possibility during a trial because judges prefer juries to follow the general protocols rather than delivering independent verdicts. Surprisingly, the Supreme Court has routinely agreed that judges have no obligation to inform juries about jury nullification. Paradoxically, jury nullification is permitted to exist as an option to all juries, yet this option cannot be discussed in most courtrooms. [link to truth-out.org] A lawyer takes an oath....like many in the "justice system"....however are you aware he swears to protect the law first....and you second No, he protects the elite and confidants first and the law second. It is said that a grateful heart never gets depressed. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 65891613 United States01/08/2015 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you know that, no matter the evidence, if a jury feels a law is unjust, it is permitted to “nullify” the law rather than finding someone guilty? Basically, jury nullification is a jury’s way of saying, “By the letter of the law, the defendant is guilty, but we also disagree with that law, so we vote to not punish the accused.” Ultimately, the verdict serves as an acquittal. Quoting: McGuyver Haven’t heard of jury nullification? Don’t feel bad; you’re far from alone. If anything, your unfamiliarity is by design. Generally, defense lawyers are not allowed to even mention jury nullification as a possibility during a trial because judges prefer juries to follow the general protocols rather than delivering independent verdicts. Surprisingly, the Supreme Court has routinely agreed that judges have no obligation to inform juries about jury nullification. Paradoxically, jury nullification is permitted to exist as an option to all juries, yet this option cannot be discussed in most courtrooms. [link to truth-out.org] This is kind of a big deal bro or bra |
| Last Cause
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| Last Cause
User ID: 66823925 United States01/08/2015 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you know that, no matter the evidence, if a jury feels a law is unjust, it is permitted to “nullify” the law rather than finding someone guilty? Basically, jury nullification is a jury’s way of saying, “By the letter of the law, the defendant is guilty, but we also disagree with that law, so we vote to not punish the accused.” Ultimately, the verdict serves as an acquittal. Quoting: McGuyver Haven’t heard of jury nullification? Don’t feel bad; you’re far from alone. If anything, your unfamiliarity is by design. Generally, defense lawyers are not allowed to even mention jury nullification as a possibility during a trial because judges prefer juries to follow the general protocols rather than delivering independent verdicts. Surprisingly, the Supreme Court has routinely agreed that judges have no obligation to inform juries about jury nullification. Paradoxically, jury nullification is permitted to exist as an option to all juries, yet this option cannot be discussed in most courtrooms. [link to truth-out.org] A lawyer takes an oath....like many in the "justice system"....however are you aware he swears to protect the law first....and you second No, he protects the elite and confidants first and the law second. It's a pity they don't realize jury nullification is the law. Otherwise, what the hell is a jury? Love is easy and messy. |
| McGuyver
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| goldielucks
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| beeches
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| s. d. butler
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| Interdimensional warrior User ID: 66825571 United States01/08/2015 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Paradoxically, jury nullification is permitted to exist as an option to all juries Quoting: McGuyver This is to keep in place the notion that we are a free society. The judge actually agreed that juries could do that, but he forbid me to tell the jury, as well as forbidding me to show them the law. He gave with one hand and took right back with the other. He nullified nullification. When I was put on trial, the judge practically told the jury the prosecution didn't prove their case. He told them they couldn't consider unsubstantiated accusations made by the prosecutor in their deliberations because that's basically all he did the entire trial. There was no evidence, no witnesses and no victim.  My "crime" as many of you who know my reputation probably suspect had nothign to do with what i was being accused of and more to do with my "political veiws" as they relate to liberals,fags, commies and jews.(take your pick, I offend them all). The cocksucker kept accusing me trying to get me to jump his ass so I would look violent and I just sat there staring the fucker down. There is NOTHING more slimy than a goddamned lawyer in this world, except perhaps a jewish one |
| s. d. butler
User ID: 974819 United States01/08/2015 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some outfit used to hand out pamphlets about this on the courthouse steps in Vegas to prospective jurors. They haven't done it for a few years now, so they must have been banned. Quoting: Wookiee666 They are still around the fully informed jury association. FIJA. [link to fija.org] FIJA works to: • Inform potential jurors of their traditional, legal authority to refuse to enforce unjust laws • Inform potential jurors that they cannot be required to check their consciences at the courthouse door • Inform potential jurors that they cannot be punished for their verdicts • Inform everyone that juror veto—jury nullification—is a peaceful way to protect human rights against corrupt politicians and government tyranny That is FIJA’s message. Last Edited by s. d. butler on 01/08/2015 07:56 PM |
