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BREAKING! Air Asia lost contact with Flight QZ8501 over Indonesia!!

 
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Would someone please pin this thread?
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There are too many Karma pinned threads at the moment.

Last time I tried, it said the thread had been pinned in the last six hours.

Also, see the comment below...

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Don't get upset, I was being half sarcastic. Seems this thread is meant to die and the narrative is being crafted with some new pinned threads.

Cheers!
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"Would you all kindly look look over there please?"

I was just reviewing the information on the AirAlgeria crash AH5017. Many of you probably recall, but that was another one that seemed to take a long time to find the wreckage, particularly given it was over land.

When they did find the "wreckage" it was basically a stain on the ground about 200 square meters.

It took quite a while to find the black boxes, given the contained area of the crash. I just found out that they gave up trying to recover data from them.

No bodies were recovered. No body parts, or tissue was recovered. No charred bones, or even wet spots in the sand were recovered. No DNA was recovered.

Not a single piece of luggage was recovered, not a scrap of paper, not a ticket, and certainly no passports.

No watches, rings, necklaces, or other forms of jewelry were recovered.

All this massive and total destruction of everything that could possibly be used to verify there was a single living thing aboard the aircraft was caused by it hitting the ground real hard.

We were informed that there was no mid-air explosion or catastrophic failure of the airframe. Lord knows what the engines were doing or where they went.

I can't even find where conversation about these startling facts went. My suspicion is they weren't removed, they just didn't occur. Other than here on GLP. There are several threads and posts discussing all of this on here.

I wonder if there might be discussion about this stuff on some of these private boards for pilots and other industry folk.

Or maybe it's just become taboo to discuss anything that seem at odds with the official narrative.

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Would someone please pin this thread?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3645386


There are too many Karma pinned threads at the moment.

Last time I tried, it said the thread had been pinned in the last six hours.

Also, see the comment below...

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 Quoting: Thereturn


Don't get upset, I was being half sarcastic. Seems this thread is meant to die and the narrative is being crafted with some new pinned threads.

Cheers!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66489645


"Would you all kindly look look over there please?"

I was just reviewing the information on the AirAlgeria crash AH5017. Many of you probably recall, but that was another one that seemed to take a long time to find the wreckage, particularly given it was over land.

When they did find the "wreckage" it was basically a stain on the ground about 200 square meters.

It took quite a while to find the black boxes, given the contained area of the crash. I just found out that they gave up trying to recover data from them.

No bodies were recovered. No body parts, or tissue was recovered. No charred bones, or even wet spots in the sand were recovered. No DNA was recovered.

Not a single piece of luggage was recovered, not a scrap of paper, not a ticket, and certainly no passports.

No watches, rings, necklaces, or other forms of jewelry were recovered.

All this massive and total destruction of everything that could possibly be used to verify there was a single living thing aboard the aircraft was caused by it hitting the ground real hard.

We were informed that there was no mid-air explosion or catastrophic failure of the airframe. Lord knows what the engines were doing or where they went.

I can't even find where conversation about these startling facts went. My suspicion is they weren't removed, they just didn't occur. Other than here on GLP. There are several threads and posts discussing all of this on here.

I wonder if there might be discussion about this stuff on some of these private boards for pilots and other industry folk.

Or maybe it's just become taboo to discuss anything that seem at odds with the official narrative.

aHEMagain
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[link to www.airliners.net]
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[link to www.cbc.ca]

So what data, if any, has the airline received regarding ACARS? It will let us know if the plane really did crash or continued on for several more hours.
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I think it's clear this has been crafted and those details don't matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3645386


Or they're still whipping up/sanitizing the data.

aHEMagain
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That reply is a bit suspicious
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lmao

hehee

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I think it's clear this has been crafted and those details don't matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3645386


Or they're still whipping up/sanitizing the data.

aHEMagain
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That reply is a bit suspicious
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lmao

:hehee:

aHEMagain
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....but that was funny!
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A ship captain spotted a red plane flying low about 350 miles NW (about 100 miles SE of Singapore) of QZ8051's last known location. That's quite a way outside the current search area.


[link to news.metrotvnews.com]
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A ship captain spotted a red plane flying low about 350 miles NW (about 100 miles SE of Singapore) of QZ8051's last known location. That's quite a way outside the current search area.


[link to news.metrotvnews.com]
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I am just curious how it would just disappear from radar? Today they are saying a radar image released show the plane climbing and only going around 100 knots.

If this thing crashed in the ocean or blew up in the air it would still reflect a radar signal all the way down. I believe they are using peoples memory of MH370 to not question why we wouldn't have radar data all the way to the end of this planes final destination
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[link to www.airliners.net]
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Wow, that is a really great thread on an interesting site!

I'm pretty sure I've seen it before, but it was before there was the first "official" wreckage site.

It's got significantly more info now, and I'm only halfway through.

They're great researchers, too. Following up on every piece of contradictory information.

Thanks, I'm looking forward to catching up to current events.

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-- Vaarsuvius, The Order of the Stick [link to tvtropes.org]
"History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme" -- Mark Twain
"It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything upon insufficient evidence.-- William Clifford [link to myweb.lmu.edu]
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"The missing Air Asia 320 was not using INMARSAT, so how can be ruled out the a/c flew on for some hours? We are now close to day 3 and the similarity of events is quite the same as on MH370. The search areas have now been expanded (now in Java sea, 10 month earlier expanded in South China sea). This is so frustrating to me even not involved, how frustrating must it be for the relatives involved? Horrible! Why are there no eyewitness reports, it is a heavily frequented area with hundreds of ships around? Why do they expand the search area? CNN reports the last radar signal shows a speed too slow to fly suggesting a stall, so why expanding the search area? What do they know? Are they hiding something, too? What has the Indonesian "Hishamuddin" learned from the Malaysian, to hold no press conference at all? Think of the MH370 relatives when they hear from the missing of just another plane... Horrible! Why no debris so far, why no ELT signal? Why no mayday call when stalling in FL380? We are looking for answers since March 2014 and all we get are questions...."
"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Never lose a holy curiosity. Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." Albert Einstein
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What we must realistically ask ourselves now is not when/if/how this latest plane could be found, but when can we expect yet another one go missing in identical circumstances.
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Search for debris on Tomnod: [link to www.tomnod.com]
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wow CNN is just running with this non stop now...this will last a good month...I hope they find somethign concrete quick to put a stop to it
For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF

If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say
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CNN is now talking about other stuff. Tonight they're having a special on MH-370 at 9:00 pm eastern. Air Asia is a fake event, it's so obvious.
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wow CNN is just running with this non stop now...this will last a good month...I hope they find somethign concrete quick to put a stop to it
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scratching
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just look at this

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
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I think the biggest concern here is a lack of distress call, just like MH370. Very unusual to not have any distress call.
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That is a good point. Why no MAYDAY MAYDAY?
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wtf
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just look at this

[link to www.independent.co.uk]
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storm in a tea cup that article. english is their second language so certain words get used when a better one would be more suitable. but ultimately if you don't get too pc about everything you understand what they mean anyway without getting one's panties in a bunch like those who like to express outrage via twotter.

interesting is the fact the pilot is a former fighter pilot tho and just saw his father for the last time at his brother's funeral...
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[link to www.popsci.com]
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[link to www.popsci.com]

"HOW CAN A COMMERCIAL AIRPLANE JUST DISAPPEAR?" published three hours ago. Very informative. Found via Google News.
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bumpity bump!!
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wow CNN is just running with this non stop now...this will last a good month...I hope they find somethign concrete quick to put a stop to it
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Better this than that race baiting nonsense they been running.
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wow CNN is just running with this non stop now...this will last a good month...I hope they find somethign concrete quick to put a stop to it
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Better this than that race baiting nonsense they been running.
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tru dat but it might have just went science fiction like the TV show "Lost" Anderson Pooper just said he got word they were investigating and easter egg with smoke coming from it on an island in the Java sea.

P.S. would you repine this thread since the plane is still missing????
Thanks!
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This is another interesting connection between MH370 and QZ8501.

MH370 was carrying 20 engineers from Freescale Semiconductor Ltd. These passengers held the patent for a microchip capable of producing electronic warfare. Under patent law, if all patent holders become deceased, the patent ownership passes on to the board- thus Jacob Rothschild became the sole owner.

Check this out: [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

Now with the latest missing plane QZ8501, the only British passenger Chi Man Choi is the managing director at Alstom Power, a large energy company based in Indonesia.

Alstom was also involved in semiconductor patents. Here's one of their patents for a semiconductor device: [link to www.freepatentsonline.com]

Here's another: [link to www.freepatentsonline.com]
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in this case, why would "they" execute such an expensive and loud kill, if they just could organize something simple, e.x. car accident lurk
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A message being made to heads of states and their constituents perhaps.
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now one has to really wonder about that!
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Razman Bin Abu Zarim-Chairman/Founder TUNE insurance Holdings

He also sits on the board LINDE Malaysia
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Background:
Linde Malaysia is a member of The Linde Group, a world leading gases and engineering company.  We have been a steady partner in the economic and industrial development of Malaysia for more than 50 years. We deliver innovative, quality and reliable services and solutions to our customers in the metal processing, manufacturing, fabrication, construction, chemicals, petrochemicals, parmaceuticals, glass and food manufacturing market sectors. In healthcare as well, Linde Malaysia partners the country’s largest and most important healthcare facilities.


PAssengers on Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 
[link to graphics.wsj.com]
Robert van der Linde, Lubberta Palm, Mark van der Linde and Merel van der Linde

Robert van der Linde, his wife Lubberta Palm, and their son Mark van der LINDE and daughter Merel van der Linde were headed to Malaysia for a vacation.
Merel attended Lindenborg high school in the town of Leek.
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Wasn't it a Linde Coffee shop in Australia? Now we have this connection and CNN can shut up about the plane going down in the Java sea?

weird gets weirder
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You mean 'Lindt'?
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Razman Bin Abu Zarim-Chairman/Founder TUNE insurance Holdings

He also sits on the board LINDE Malaysia
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55974438


Background:
Linde Malaysia is a member of The Linde Group, a world leading gases and engineering company.  We have been a steady partner in the economic and industrial development of Malaysia for more than 50 years. We deliver innovative, quality and reliable services and solutions to our customers in the metal processing, manufacturing, fabrication, construction, chemicals, petrochemicals, parmaceuticals, glass and food manufacturing market sectors. In healthcare as well, Linde Malaysia partners the country’s largest and most important healthcare facilities.


PAssengers on Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 
[link to graphics.wsj.com]
Robert van der Linde, Lubberta Palm, Mark van der Linde and Merel van der Linde

Robert van der Linde, his wife Lubberta Palm, and their son Mark van der LINDE and daughter Merel van der Linde were headed to Malaysia for a vacation.
Merel attended Lindenborg high school in the town of Leek.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55974438

Wasn't it a Linde Coffee shop in Australia? Now we have this connection and CNN can shut up about the plane going down in the Java sea?

weird gets weirder
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You mean 'Lindt'?
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Goofy Thum
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Razman Bin Abu Zarim-Chairman/Founder TUNE insurance Holdings

He also sits on the board LINDE Malaysia
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55974438


Background:
Linde Malaysia is a member of The Linde Group, a world leading gases and engineering company.  We have been a steady partner in the economic and industrial development of Malaysia for more than 50 years. We deliver innovative, quality and reliable services and solutions to our customers in the metal processing, manufacturing, fabrication, construction, chemicals, petrochemicals, parmaceuticals, glass and food manufacturing market sectors. In healthcare as well, Linde Malaysia partners the country’s largest and most important healthcare facilities.


PAssengers on Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 
[link to graphics.wsj.com]
Robert van der Linde, Lubberta Palm, Mark van der Linde and Merel van der Linde

Robert van der Linde, his wife Lubberta Palm, and their son Mark van der LINDE and daughter Merel van der Linde were headed to Malaysia for a vacation.
Merel attended Lindenborg high school in the town of Leek.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55974438

Wasn't it a Linde Coffee shop in Australia? Now we have this connection and CNN can shut up about the plane going down in the Java sea?

weird gets weirder
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Guess we should now expect a celeb by the name of 'Linda' to perish in the coming weeks or months or another false-flag psy-op shooting with the perp or victim by the name of 'Linda'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63580766


In a seemingly unrelated case, Linde is the name of a class action lawsuit against the Arab Bank for their financing of Hamas related attacks. Linde was a security contractor killed due to these attacks. I think Lindt chocolate was more of a statement to this landmark case currently underway...and the Linde Group connection also gives way to suspicions of a false flag op.

[link to www.forbes.com]

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Edited. Argument retracted.

Last Edited by StephenStan on 12/29/2014 09:44 PM
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They even changed the logo to their other business Tune Group to gray

[link to www.tunegroup.com]

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#Indonesia says missing #AirAsia #plane could be at "bottom of sea"


Like always... with modern radar systems, live feeds and trackers. A plane just disappear and they know not a single shit about it.
I will give the weather theory 2-4 weeks before I call this total bullshit.

I still believe that the weather were the reason for the crash, atleast when we get some updates about a plane crash site that people have SEEN.
But now they (officials) tells us that the plane crash site was nothing? Screw that.
 Quoting: Falter


bump


I hate to sound harsh, but assuming this is weather related is quite simpleton. And someone even suggested that turbulence caused the crash. Turbulence does NOT cause planes to crash, good lord.

Weather reports say that it was mild. Some radar images show clouds/storms, it's still nothing that hasn't been safely flown through before.

The aviation experts are saying the weather was normal. The GLP experts... I can't take their word on this. Not yet.
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I think Falter was saying that they had been willing to consider weather the most likely culprit in the planes disappearance, as the weather was shit in the area.

Falter had been willing to give it 2-4 weeks for evidence of that to "surface", but with the authorities coming out this early setting expectations that there might be no sign of a crash on the surface from a likely weather-induced catastrophic failure of the aircraft, that had them reassessing the likelihood that a "mundane" explanation like weather was going to cut it in this situation.

In shorter words, I'm pretty sure Falter agrees with you.

As do I.

aHEMagain
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Indeed, and I did not intend to sound like I was disagreeing with him. He's right. I quoted his post to get it more exposure.
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Would someone please pin this thread?
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Every time I try to pin this thread, it says the forum has already reached a max of 10 karma pins.
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Would someone please pin this thread?
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Every time I try to pin this thread, it says the forum has already reached a max of 10 karma pins.
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Hasn't been able to be pinned all day

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