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BREAKING! Air Asia lost contact with Flight QZ8501 over Indonesia!!

 
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I love how MSM say that they have found wreckage..

Dkhds did the same last missing plane.
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Wrong. Once the patent holders are declared deceased, ownership passes onto the remaining live patent holders, which in this case was Freescale Semiconductor. Who owns Freescale? Blackstone/Carlyle group run by the Rothschild board of directors.
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Prove it or it's bullshit. That isn't the way patents work.

aHEMagain

ps: and I think you know that.
 Quoting: aHEMagain^2



Try using your brain instead of easily dismissing claims. You can easily look up patents on the internet.

Here is the patent from United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO): [link to www.uspto.gov]

A longer abstract: [link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65717479


I have used my brain, that is why I know you're full of shit.

Which you would realize if you read your own links.

For example, do you understand what this means on your linked patent?

Inventors: Peidong Wang, Zhijun CHEN, Zhihong CHENG, Li Ying
Original Assignee: Freescale Semiconductor, Inc.

It means that Wang, Chen, Cheng, and Ying invented something while employed at Freescale Semiconductor, so the patent was assigned to Freescale Semiconductor.

So it wouldn't change a thing if Wang, Chen, Cheng or Ying died, because from the moment the patent was created, it was owned by Freescale Semiconductor.

Thanks for the distraction.

aHEMagain
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your user id changes with every post.
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If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it.
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If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it.
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ohyeah
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LBCI News English ‏@LBCI_News_EN 44 minuter sedan
#Indonesia says missing #AirAsia #plane could be at "bottom of sea"


Like always... with modern radar systems, live feeds and trackers. A plane just disappear and they know not a single shit about it.
I will give the weather theory 2-4 weeks before I call this total bullshit.

I still believe that the weather were the reason for the crash, atleast when we get some updates about a plane crash site that people have SEEN.
But now they (officials) tells us that the plane crash site was nothing? Screw that.
 Quoting: Falter


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I hate to sound harsh, but assuming this is weather related is quite simpleton. And someone even suggested that turbulence caused the crash. Turbulence does NOT cause planes to crash, good lord.

Weather reports say that it was mild. Some radar images show clouds/storms, it's still nothing that hasn't been safely flown through before.

The aviation experts are saying the weather was normal. The GLP experts... I can't take their word on this. Not yet.
 Quoting: Stoned Goddess


I think Falter was saying that they had been willing to consider weather the most likely culprit in the planes disappearance, as the weather was shit in the area.

Falter had been willing to give it 2-4 weeks for evidence of that to "surface", but with the authorities coming out this early setting expectations that there might be no sign of a crash on the surface from a likely weather-induced catastrophic failure of the aircraft, that had them reassessing the likelihood that a "mundane" explanation like weather was going to cut it in this situation.

In shorter words, I'm pretty sure Falter agrees with you.

As do I.

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Fool me once, shame on you... Fool me twice...

Weather has brought aircraft down before, and even indirectly because it can complicate pilot decision making - human factors.

It's also not hard to spoof ADS-B for the technically versed either. Albeit very illegal. If they can't find debris, or a crash landing site soon, this smells very fishy.
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Some "expert" on CNN admitted he is surprised they have found nothing yet.
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Prove it or it's bullshit. That isn't the way patents work.

aHEMagain

ps: and I think you know that.
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Try using your brain instead of easily dismissing claims. You can easily look up patents on the internet.

Here is the patent from United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO): [link to www.uspto.gov]

A longer abstract: [link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65717479


I have used my brain, that is why I know you're full of shit.

Which you would realize if you read your own links.

For example, do you understand what this means on your linked patent?

Inventors: Peidong Wang, Zhijun CHEN, Zhihong CHENG, Li Ying
Original Assignee: Freescale Semiconductor, Inc.

It means that Wang, Chen, Cheng, and Ying invented something while employed at Freescale Semiconductor, so the patent was assigned to Freescale Semiconductor.

So it wouldn't change a thing if Wang, Chen, Cheng or Ying died, because from the moment the patent was created, it was owned by Freescale Semiconductor.

Thanks for the distraction.

aHEMagain
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your user id changes with every post.
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So what? Verizon has shitty coverage in my area, so my connection is constantly reconnecting, which probably assigns me a new IP.

It's one of the reasons I have an account, so people know it's me.

aHEMagain
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"It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything upon insufficient evidence.-- William Clifford [link to myweb.lmu.edu]
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Plane went missing on 12/28/2014

28 = TWO 8 = 88

2014 = 2x14 = 28 = TWO 8 = 88

Together we have 12/8888


Someone else pointed out the 3 Malaysia related flights that have crashed/gone missing this year:

370 + 17 + 8501 = 8888


Just adding this thought - when you have a digital clock, if all digits are lit it looks like 8888.

What does it mean? You tell me....
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Plane went missing on 12/28/2014

28 = TWO 8 = 88

2014 = 2x14 = 28 = TWO 8 = 88

Together we have 12/8888


Someone else pointed out the 3 Malaysia related flights that have crashed/gone missing this year:

370 + 17 + 8501 = 8888


Just adding this thought - when you have a digital clock, if all digits are lit it looks like 8888.

What does it mean? You tell me....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25402510


RESET!!!

A thread from 2 days ago before this incident.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

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Don't dismiss what you don't understand. Electronic warfare and radionics is the future for military combat- well, that's what TPTB and dark forces would like to believe. The military industrial complex- Boeing, BAE Systems have been deeply involved in aerospace defense, frequency control and warfare, etc, hence the importance of semiconductors.

Freescale Semiconductor was bought by Blackstone, owned by the Carlyle Group- a private equity group who has a significant stake in global assets.

These things are not conspiracies if you begin to understand the control systems in this world and the motives of those with power.
 Quoting: ANON 65717479


I understand what I am saying.

The question I would just ask is in what way would this affect you as a person going forwards? Does it make you hate the US? Does it make you like them and be on their side? Or not?

Regardless of the outcomes of their research and engineering, are you happy to continue living in their world? Let's say you, is this what you signed up for when coming to the planet and are fully aware of this from childhood or do these people keep on steering the direction the world heads to? If not, is the alternative course of action you wish to take, what you signed up for when coming into the planet? Did you send yourself to where you were born and raised? Or could you very easily have been born in another part of the planet with different allegiances and knowledge about the world?

There is more going on that what you are talking about. This is the cusp of the matter and precisely what they are saying with these incident and of which I am pointing out.

I am not being confrontational. Hope you understand. Just pertinent questions surrounding their made up BS.
 Quoting: Thereturn


What do you think the significance of the logo being turned from Red to Gray is?


They made sure they said it about a thousand times...
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Now that you mention it, CNN was explaining why their planes were red in the first place. Even mentioned Branson and virgin in their explanation. Why would that be discussion worthy?
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Just had to bump this because one of Bransons 747 was on CNN with landing gear trouble
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Plane went missing on 12/28/2014

28 = TWO 8 = 88

2014 = 2x14 = 28 = TWO 8 = 88

Together we have 12/8888


Someone else pointed out the 3 Malaysia related flights that have crashed/gone missing this year:

370 + 17 + 8501 = 8888


Just adding this thought - when you have a digital clock, if all digits are lit it looks like 8888.

What does it mean? You tell me....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25402510


RESET!!!

A thread from 2 days ago before this incident.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
 Quoting: Thereturn


So why are you on this thread discussing what you predicted to begin happening and explicitly choosing to not head your own advice?
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Plane went missing on 12/28/2014

28 = TWO 8 = 88

2014 = 2x14 = 28 = TWO 8 = 88

Together we have 12/8888


Someone else pointed out the 3 Malaysia related flights that have crashed/gone missing this year:

370 + 17 + 8501 = 8888


Just adding this thought - when you have a digital clock, if all digits are lit it looks like 8888.

What does it mean? You tell me....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25402510


RESET!!!

A thread from 2 days ago before this incident.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
 Quoting: Thereturn


So why are you on this thread discussing what you predicted to begin happening and explicitly choosing to not head your own advice?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66489645


As you can see, I am not looking for the plane but rather encouraging people to understand why and what is happening with all this saga and not indulge in the discussion of where it is, who was on board, which will get them nowhere, but rather to understand that this is yet again, another engineered event.

Understand now?

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There's no way they can get away with the suggestion that it's sunk in the waters near where it last had contact, unlike mh370 which is alleged to have sunk in the deep indian ocean.

The waters, in the vicinity, are only about 50m in depth. it shouldn't take more than a week to fully search the entire area there with the right equipment and personnel.

My guess is in a few days, after reviewing their military radar datas and any others, they will find that the missing plane flew west over Indonesia and 'most likely' ended up in a remote region of sea, just like mh370. They'll need to do this to reassure people's fears that the plane literally didn't vanish and there is at least some lead to where it could have gone to next, government would appear totally powerless to outside forces otherwise and the illusion of control is shattered.

The script is so repetitive and predictable... when will the sheep wake up and realize they are being played?
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Prove it or it's bullshit. That isn't the way patents work.

aHEMagain

ps: and I think you know that.
 Quoting: aHEMagain^2



Try using your brain instead of easily dismissing claims. You can easily look up patents on the internet.

Here is the patent from United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO): [link to www.uspto.gov]

A longer abstract: [link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65717479


I have used my brain, that is why I know you're full of shit.

Which you would realize if you read your own links.

For example, do you understand what this means on your linked patent?

Inventors: Peidong Wang, Zhijun CHEN, Zhihong CHENG, Li Ying
Original Assignee: Freescale Semiconductor, Inc.

It means that Wang, Chen, Cheng, and Ying invented something while employed at Freescale Semiconductor, so the patent was assigned to Freescale Semiconductor.

So it wouldn't change a thing if Wang, Chen, Cheng or Ying died, because from the moment the patent was created, it was owned by Freescale Semiconductor.

Thanks for the distraction.

aHEMagain
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your user id changes with every post.
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When I use my daughter's computer, it says I'm from Canada. My daughter lives 40 miles from me.
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Plane went missing on 12/28/2014

28 = TWO 8 = 88

2014 = 2x14 = 28 = TWO 8 = 88

Together we have 12/8888


Someone else pointed out the 3 Malaysia related flights that have crashed/gone missing this year:

370 + 17 + 8501 = 8888


Just adding this thought - when you have a digital clock, if all digits are lit it looks like 8888.

What does it mean? You tell me....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25402510


RESET!!!

A thread from 2 days ago before this incident.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
 Quoting: Thereturn


So why are you on this thread discussing what you predicted to begin happening and explicitly choosing to not head your own advice?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66489645


As you can see, I am not looking for the plane but rather encouraging people to understand why and what is happening with all this saga and not indulge in the discussion of where it is, who was on board, which will get them nowhere, but rather to understand that this is yet again, another engineered event.

Understand now?
 Quoting: Thereturn


Don't get upset, I was being half sarcastic. Seems this thread is meant to die and the narrative is being crafted with some new pinned threads.

Cheers!
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So what data, if any, has the airline received regarding ACARS? It will let us know if the plane really did crash or continued on for several more hours.
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So what data, if any, has the airline received regarding ACARS? It will let us know if the plane really did crash or continued on for several more hours.
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I think it's clear this has been crafted and those details don't matter.
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RESET!!!

A thread from 2 days ago before this incident.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
 Quoting: Thereturn


So why are you on this thread discussing what you predicted to begin happening and explicitly choosing to not head your own advice?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66489645


As you can see, I am not looking for the plane but rather encouraging people to understand why and what is happening with all this saga and not indulge in the discussion of where it is, who was on board, which will get them nowhere, but rather to understand that this is yet again, another engineered event.

Understand now?
 Quoting: Thereturn


Don't get upset, I was being half sarcastic. Seems this thread is meant to die and the narrative is being crafted with some new pinned threads.

Cheers!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66489645


hesright
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Energy exec on board.
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Would someone please pin this thread?
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there was no distress call,

and they still haven't found the plane...

sound familiar?

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[link to www.cbc.ca]

So what data, if any, has the airline received regarding ACARS? It will let us know if the plane really did crash or continued on for several more hours.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66485447


I think it's clear this has been crafted and those details don't matter.
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Or they're still whipping up/sanitizing the data.

aHEMagain
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Last radio contact: 6:17
[link to www.cbc.ca]

MH370 was lost the 17th, contact lost 17:30 GMT

MH17 crashed the 17th

AH5017 had 117 passengers (incl. one infant)

....and so on....there has been written a lot about the numbers in these incidents...and they tell a story of their own.

In esoteric terms, 7 and 17 means:

"7" is one - if not the - most important number we know of and it has many extremely interesting properties:
[link to www.betemunah.org]

"In the bible Seven is the number of completeness and perfection (both physical and spiritual). It derives much of its meaning from being tied directly to God’s creation of all things. "


"Number 17 is a combination of the vibrations and attributes of the number 1 and Number 7. Number 1 relates to new beginnings, motivation and progress, individuality, self-leadership and assertiveness, achievement and success. Number 7 resonates with the energies of spiritual awakening and enlightenment, mysticism and psychic abilities,inner-wisdom, manifesting your desires and good fortune. The number 17 is an auspicious number as it embodies the ‘new’ with manifesting good fortune. Remember to be grateful for all that the Universe provides.
"

"In the Bible the number 17 symbolizes "overcoming the enemy" and "complete victory." God overcame the sins of rebellious humans when he began to flood the earth through rain on the 17th of the second Hebrew month. Noah's ark and its eight passengers rested on the mountains of Ararat on the 17th of the seventh month (right in the middle of God's annual Holy period known as the Feast of Tabernacles)"


Food for thought.
 Quoting: Comperio


Please see this analysis by Dr. Kissner and note his remark in terms of probability and causality that:

[link to counterinformation.wordpress.com]

"These considerations suggest that, in fact, in the cases of MH 370 and MH 17 we might not be dealing with a “fair coin.”

This is very true - and what Dr. Kissner identifies here is the fractal nature of these events. They are not random, they are not tragic accidents and coincidences, but can be explained using scientific arguments that brings this into a greater context and deeper understanding.

As to fractality - self-similarity and repetition in numbers is key - and 7 and 17 are showing exactly these fractal properties.

MH17 crashes 7/17 app. 17 local time
MH17 was precisely 17 years in service - to the date
MH370 had been gone in 17x7,7 days until 17/7 (equals 4 month 9 days, 7x7 is 49)
MH370 took of on the 7th
MH370 and MH17 are aricraft type 777
17 is the 7th prime-number and a Phytagorian prime and so forth.

The above are just the most clear-cut examples on the math and number fractality in the case of MH370 and MH17.

7 and 17 holds very significant esoteric values and many scholars through time has dealt with these numbers and their mathematical properties.

The above is scientific fact and can be explained in the same manner. This is NOT supernatural or "strange" - but deeply rooted in science, logic, math and intelligence.

If this is not interpreted on a scientific basis and thus gives us a tool to deal with the situation - decision makers all over the world will make uniformed and wrong decisions.

The fractal pattern keeps repeating - and one must insist that this is addressed now or we will see further incidents of growing magnitude in a more and more narrow timeline.
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 Quoting: Comperio

"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. Never lose a holy curiosity. Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." Albert Einstein
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So what data, if any, has the airline received regarding ACARS? It will let us know if the plane really did crash or continued on for several more hours.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66485447


I think it's clear this has been crafted and those details don't matter.
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Or they're still whipping up/sanitizing the data.

aHEMagain
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That reply is a bit suspicious
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BREAKING NEWS: INDONESIA HELICOPTER SPOTS TWO OIL SLICKS IN THE AIRASIA #QZ8501 SEARCH AREA -AP

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JL News Alert ‏@JLNewsAlert 11 timmar sedan
BREAKING NEWS: INDONESIA HELICOPTER SPOTS TWO OIL SLICKS IN THE AIRASIA #QZ8501 SEARCH AREA -AP


They've since said they determined these were not related to the missing plane.
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Search called off for second night... speculation can calm until tomorrow.
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Search called off for second night... speculation can calm until tomorrow.
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they couldn't ever find MH370 either.



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there was no distress call,

and they still haven't found the plane...

sound familiar?

/
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And MSM will pull the same bs..





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