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Pat Buchanan: Bush's disastrous 'democratic fundamentalism' (our situation has never been more grim)

 
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Pat Buchanan: Bush's disastrous 'democratic fundamentalism' (our situation has never been more grim)
I rarely read WND, but found Pat Buchanan's opinion piece today.

OMG, the world is upside down. I used to think Pat Buchanan was some old fuddy-duddy who didn't have a clue. Now I can't believe I like Pat Buchanan's take on the Bush Administration. Ol' Pat's been making a lot of sense.

The world is topsy-turvy!

"If neither U.S. party is willing to show any independence of Israel, if America will not address the root causes of Arab animosity, and if we will not even negotiate with our enemies, we should probably pack up and get out of the Middle East. Before we are thrown out."

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Bush's disastrous 'democratic fundamentalism'

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Posted: August 7, 2006
7:29 p.m. Eastern
© 2006

"Things are as they are, and their consequences will be what they will be. Why, then, should we seek to be deceived?"

Columnist Stewart Alsop, dead now these 30 years, once closed a column with this quote from the philosopher Bishop Berkeley. His column, I believe, was about Vietnam.

As we approach the fifth anniversary of 9-11, we, too, can see the shape of things to come.

In the ideology of "democratic fundamentalism" to which George W. Bush converted after 9-11, we are simply in a rough patch on the glory road to a democratic Middle East and "the end of tyranny on this earth."

In reality, our situation has never been more grim.

The successful experiment that featured the "freest, fairest elections ever held" in Palestine is dead. Over 125 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza. The Gaza Strip is a shambles. The terror wing of Hamas will have no trouble recruiting in the rubble.

The same is true of Lebanon. The "Cedar Revolution" was a Bush success, a beacon of hope. That Hezbollah won a dozen seats only seemed to prove that the elections had indeed been free, fair and open to all.

Now Lebanon is in ruin. The 900 dead, thousands wounded, the million refugees, the smashed infrastructure and the scores of thousands of Westerners who have fled means years before Lebanon recovers, if ever she does. Arab hatred of Israel and America is pandemic.

Hezbollah ignited the hostilities. But it was Israel that escalated to rain destruction on a people and nation that had not countenanced or condoned Hezbollah's provocation, but condemned it.

Think back. Had Reagan done to Lebanon, when half a dozen Americans were seized as hostages, what Israel has done, when two soldiers were taken hostage, Democrats would have denounced Reagan as a war criminal. Conservatives would have begged him to ease up.

Yet, almost to a man and woman, our politicians are falling all over one another to express their 100 percent support of what Israel has done to Lebanon. Even Israelis must feel a measure of contempt for this kind of groveling.

Indeed, in Israel, dissent against the blitzkrieg is rising, and the Olmert regime is being challenged and even condemned by courageous Israelis for letting the air force have a free hand to smash Lebanon.

Moving on to Iraq, where the war has lasted as long as our war on Nazi Germany, Gen. John Abizaid is warning that a descent into civil war is now possible, and Bush concedes that, three years and three months after "Mission Accomplished," the situation in Baghdad is "terrible."

Questions now on the table are: Will America let go? Will Iraq break apart? Americans are not all that far away from a strategic disaster.

Whatever happens to Joe Lieberman in Connecticut, the new center of gravity of the Democratic Party is anti-war. Democratic hawks are a dying species. Al Gore now emerges, given his authentic anti-war credentials and emergence as a world leader of the global-warming movement, as the left's best hope for the nomination.

Kerry and Edwards, the 2004 ticket, know which way the wind is blowing. Both have declared that had they known in 2002 what they know today, they would not have voted for the war. Hillary senses the ground shifting beneath her feet. Last week, she scourged Rumsfeld, called for his resignation and denounced Pentagon mismanagement of the war.

Two years and three months before November 2008, the Democratic Party has pulled out of the Bush coalition; two-thirds of the nation considers Iraq a mistake; and a majority wants the troops home.

Can Bush sustain support for the war as the news from Iraq gets worse and worse? For, if this war is lost on the home front, the war will be lost in Mesopotamia.

In Afghanistan, the Taliban are fighting in larger units and, colluding with drug lords, killing more Afghans and allied troops than they have in five years. Hamid Karzai reigns in Kabul but does not rule. U.S.-NATO forces are not losing battles, but they are insufficient in number to win the war.

Iran, fearful of Bush in 2003, is now rejecting U.S.-EU bribes and rejecting any suspension of its uranium enrichment program. Bring it on, Ahmadinejad seems to be saying to Bush. As for Pakistan, the Islamists there remain but a bullet away from custody of an atomic bomb.

While all these are trends, none seems to be going our way.

The Israeli-American ace of trumps, raw military power, is still able to defeat armies and destroy states, but it has proven less effective in eradicating guerrillas, and counterproductive in changing Islamic hearts and minds.

If neither U.S. party is willing to show any independence of Israel, if America will not address the root causes of Arab animosity, and if we will not even negotiate with our enemies, we should probably pack up and get out of the Middle East. Before we are thrown out.
"Until you are willing to organize your friends and neighbors and literally shut down cities - drive at 5mph through the streets of major cities on the freeway and stop commerce, refuse to show up for work, refuse to borrow and spend more than you make, show up in Washington DC with a million of your neighbors and literally shut down The Capitol you WILL be bent over the table on a daily basis." Karl Denninger

Don't blame me; I voted for Ron Paul.


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Re: Pat Buchanan: Bush's disastrous 'democratic fundamentalism' (our situation has never been more grim)
pat is gay lol an he is anti semitic everybody knows that.and his sister is but ugly lmao.
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pat is gay lol an he is anti semitic everybody knows that.and his sister is but ugly lmao.
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Wow, you really went thru that article and offered me insight into how Pat is mistaken.

NOT!

Attack the messenger (Buchanan) because you can't argue the message?
"Until you are willing to organize your friends and neighbors and literally shut down cities - drive at 5mph through the streets of major cities on the freeway and stop commerce, refuse to show up for work, refuse to borrow and spend more than you make, show up in Washington DC with a million of your neighbors and literally shut down The Capitol you WILL be bent over the table on a daily basis." Karl Denninger

Don't blame me; I voted for Ron Paul.


Silence is consent.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: Bush's disastrous 'democratic fundamentalism' (our situation has never been more grim)
well its a lot worse than that, individuals are routinely brain-damaged in America, in addition to general programs aimed at the entire population to dumb it down with fluoride, mercury in vaccines, and destruction of public education.

google or search the board for "morgellons", "mind control", "em weapons".

i'm not sure what the criteria is for choosing victims of this, but i don't think its random, i've seen too many gifted students at univeristy or younger targeted. and entreprenuers, or the politically active.

it's all done in secret ... i'm being tortured right now as i write this, they can actually monitor what i'm doing and my level of concentration, and increase the voltage (intensity of microwave beams and sonic input from implants in my head that conduct sound via bone transmission)

i can't ask for help from anyone around me, i can't go to the police, the only hope i have is to either get enough money to build an elaborate shelter, to start a political movement so powerful it can put a stop to it, or go to a foreign country where i'll be safe

it's hideous, this is being done to thousands, most don't actually realize it's being done to them.

sad to say, this is the truth of America and also the truth of Western society. irredeamable, without value, it deserves to be destroyed, don't you think? is this the future we want for mankind?

when anyone will develop themselves or express themselves in some way that violates conformist standards, they will be secretly attacked.

this has been done to me since i was a teenager, at least, i became aware slowly and reacted, but did not admit it fully to myself until i was in my early thirties.

i began to protect myself by wearing tinfoil at night while i was sleeping, and that is when they began to attack me openly.

they had to -- this is the system that keeps us under control, at least those of us who are different in some way and don't lead typical 9-5 wage slave lives.

my difference would have threatened in a small way to expose this system of repression, and so ...

this will seem odd to read, but i can assure you its the truth. it's just as some of the "gurus" out their claim, icke, swerdlow, for example, probably 2 or 3 percent are being specially targeted.

this society is evil. western society is evil. there is no worse possible future for mankind than one in which these societies emerge dominant and impose their way of life on the rest of the world. extinction would be better -- except, of course, for the plantation owners, the masters of the slave, our elites.


some web sites:
[link to www.angelfire.com]
[link to www.geocities.com]
[link to www.mikrowellenterror.de]
[link to www.datafilter.com]
(use the Internet Archive for the last, it's down, someone needs to grab it from archive and put it back up somewhere)
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Re: Pat Buchanan: Bush's disastrous 'democratic fundamentalism' (our situation has never been more grim)
I don't mean to sound insensitive, but I'm having a hard time understanding how your case relates to the article posted here.

Perhaps you might want to start a thread of your own and see if you can find people who are either going thru the same problems, or who understand what it is you are manifesting.

Good luck.
"Until you are willing to organize your friends and neighbors and literally shut down cities - drive at 5mph through the streets of major cities on the freeway and stop commerce, refuse to show up for work, refuse to borrow and spend more than you make, show up in Washington DC with a million of your neighbors and literally shut down The Capitol you WILL be bent over the table on a daily basis." Karl Denninger

Don't blame me; I voted for Ron Paul.


Silence is consent.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: Bush's disastrous 'democratic fundamentalism' (our situation has never been more grim)
Pat Buchanan has had a series of excellent articles covering the Lebanon war. Check out his archives at WND: [link to www.wnd.com]
For his troubles he has, naturally, been labeled an anti-semite.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: Bush's disastrous 'democratic fundamentalism' (our situation has never been more grim)
Well I can proudly say I voted for Pat Buchanan in the last two presidental elections(write-in in 04). How many people can say that? If we had listened to him we wouldn't be in the middle of a civil war in Iraq.
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Bump for a good read,thank you OP.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: Bush's disastrous 'democratic fundamentalism' (our situation has never been more grim)
Pat has always made a hell of alot of sense in many areas, and he is far from gay!





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