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NYPD Rafael Ramos - Please Compare These Pics - I Smell Fish

 
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hopefully this thread wont vanish like the other one saying the cop killings were false falgs ...
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False flag wouldn't be the proper term actually....hoax would be more like it if that were the case.

There's a thread here with a "live" video taken right after it happened by a guy who lives on this block about 100 ft from where it was supposed to have happened. He says in the video that he was sitting in his apartment and the only thing that alerted him that something was going on outside was the fact that a helicopter flew over fairly low which prompted him to go downstairs to the sidewalk to check it out. From there he could see that up ahead was roped off and a cop comes over pretty quickly and tells him to go inside where he climbs stairs to the roof and watches from there. Later, he goes back down but they keep people far away.

But what's odd is that he NEVER HEARD A SIREN...NOTHING!! That's frigging bizarre. AND, I'M SORRY, THE STREET SCENE HE WAS SHOWING - THE STREET WHERE IT HAPPENED - SEEMED TOO CALM. JUST SAYIN.
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12/21/2014 01:40 PM
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All the cops in NYC and he shoots two cops that were on an Anti Terror Drill? Cops everywhere? I dunno?

[link to zeeklytv.com]
 Quoting: Farrrrrout


The police commissioner said they were in the high crime area as part of requests for more police presence.

He did NOT mention anti-terror drill at all. Preliminary reporting can be inaccurate in the rush to get out the news.

And obviously one pic is inaccurate. Same reason. Any idea how many Ramos in NYC?

All shots fired through the passenger window so why others be blown out?
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

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12/21/2014 01:41 PM
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Guys I live in New York and have a friend who's NYPD stationed in bed stuy. He's actually stationed at the Tompkins project today, if he wasn't off yesterday it could've been him executed. This really happened. I am one to speculate on the validity of sensationalized events such as this one, and I understand and agree with what you are doing to determine facts by photo analysis. But this event unfortunately happened, during a drill yes. Ralph Ramos attended a church that people I know attend in queens.

I'll tell you what's fishy- just how quick al sharpton offered his condolences yesterday - even going so far as to say he was not connected. Weird
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12/21/2014 01:46 PM
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The photo with no laces was taken after he shot his girlfriend in Baltimore, MD and before he shot the cops in NY. There's no conspiracy there. He laced up before killing the cops.
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12/21/2014 01:48 PM
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Guys I live in New York and have a friend who's NYPD stationed in bed stuy. He's actually stationed at the Tompkins project today, if he wasn't off yesterday it could've been him executed. This really happened. I am one to speculate on the validity of sensationalized events such as this one, and I understand and agree with what you are doing to determine facts by photo analysis. But this event unfortunately happened, during a drill yes. Ralph Ramos attended a church that people I know attend in queens.

I'll tell you what's fishy- just how quick al sharpton offered his condolences yesterday - even going so far as to say he was not connected. Weird
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54037222


Please ask your friend if its normal that a suspect gets his shoes tied by Police or EMT after he shoots himself.



Suspect had no shoe alces minutes before shooting hismelf. On the stretcher his shoes are neatly tied.

Looks like a Hollywood style Continuity mistake
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12/21/2014 01:49 PM
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All the cops in NYC and he shoots two cops that were on an Anti Terror Drill? Cops everywhere? I dunno?

[link to zeeklytv.com]
 Quoting: Farrrrrout


When I read they were taking part in an anti-terrorism drill, it immediate reminded me of Eric Frein cop sniper and the Active Shooter Exercise schedule for the same month in the same county, with exact dates TBD(to be disclosed)

It's hard to yell FF when people actually die... but even last night, there was another "assassination" attempt on a police officer in Tarpon Springs, FL.

This is either the result of MSM fueling the fires of a racial war between cops and the lower class, causing crazies to come out of the closet... or it's the Fed giving themselves justification for the MRAP's being handed out to police departments across the country.
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The "copkiller" had no shoelace before he killed himself.
Then when transported away he is perfectly fine "laced up".

Basicly starts at 1:50


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66264259

So did the cops reapply his left shoelace after he shot himself?

Or did he do it himself before shooting himself?..cause you know it sucks dying without your shoes in order.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66264259


Almost everyone is saying he took that pic after shooting the cops. Yet if any of them would have took the time(1 sec) to look at the time it was uploaded, they would know it was hours before the attack on the cops...

So he had plenty of time to lace his shoe but he looks to be wearing a completely different pair after that pic which were probably already laced...

Shoelace conspiracy debunked5a
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The photo with no laces was taken after he shot his girlfriend in Baltimore, MD and before he shot the cops in NY. There's no conspiracy there. He laced up before killing the cops.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4571341


Yes, you can buy shoe laces in this country separate of the shoes and easily replace broken ones or ones that have blood on them.

I'm sure he didn't want to trip on his own shoes at the crime scene. Wouldn't be seemly.


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One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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The police commissioner did NOT support the anti terrorism rumor and said they were there merely at the requests for more police presence because of high crime in that area.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Wow, fish indeed.Great Catch

bump5
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12/21/2014 01:58 PM
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The photo with no laces was taken after he shot his girlfriend in Baltimore, MD and before he shot the cops in NY. There's no conspiracy there. He laced up before killing the cops.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4571341


NO! WRONG!!!!
The picture was taken in brooklyn after he killed the cops! It was his last picture before killing himself already full of blood !
He had no shoelace on his left shoe.

[link to i.dailymail.co.uk]

When he is taken to the stretcher he has neatly tied shoelaces on both shoes!

So this looks like a conspiracy! ?
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12/21/2014 02:03 PM
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The "copkiller" had no shoelace before he killed himself.
Then when transported away he is perfectly fine "laced up".

Basicly starts at 1:50


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66264259

So did the cops reapply his left shoelace after he shot himself?

Or did he do it himself before shooting himself?..cause you know it sucks dying without your shoes in order.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66264259


Almost everyone is saying he took that pic after shooting the cops. Yet if any of them would have took the time(1 sec) to look at the time it was uploaded, they would know it was hours before the attack on the cops...

So he had plenty of time to lace his shoe but he looks to be wearing a completely different pair after that pic which were probably already laced...

Shoelace conspiracy debunked5a
 Quoting: SN7

WRONG!!!
It was his last pciture he posted at instagram AFTER the shooting!
[link to i.dailymail.co.uk]
He was in Baltimore the day before shooting his ex gf . Now he is in Brooklyn.
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I started a thread on this earlier as I had not seen one. I was complaining about no one calling this out for what it is because of racism. My faith is glp is restored!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36203705


This pace is heavily racist and biased, there's constantly posts attacking people who are something besides white and they stay or get pinned, while if one is made attacking white people it's deleted and removed.

These same people will call others sheep, but are completely geared into the mindset of viewing black people as negative,criminals, and so on ... the media mind set that was placed onto them. They shut down and think refuse to think independently at all, for the most part. I'm surprised this thread is even here and anyone is replying to it. Any other time the media is "lying" and not telling the truth, however this time, about these cop killings, the cops are "good guys" just before this you can see dozens of posts calling cops evil and whatnot.

Now they are choosing to believe the media 100 percent, funny how that works out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60594970



"viewing black people as negative, criminals, and so on ... the media mind set that was placed onto them."

Bullshit. The opposite is true. The Media has for decades now done everything it can to shine a positive light on negroes, (why, they're just White people with dark skin, the Huxtables, they are, LOL.) and try to hide and minimize negro crime("youths", "teenagers", "men", down the memory hole immediately while playing up the rare White on negro crime).

negroes commit so much crime that it can't all be hidden without even the dumbest realizing that the MSM has no credibility and the small percentage of the total amount of negro crime that does get more than cursory attention is still so much that it can seem to dullards as if the media is always reporting about negro crime and trying to make negroes look bad.
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There's some video footage taken from a bystander at this link. [link to infsocialsolutions.com] down the page, look for a post from LaBasia. It looks like there's 2 cops laying on the sidewalk and street being worked on. I don't believe this is a hoax...
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The "copkiller" had no shoelace before he killed himself.
Then when transported away he is perfectly fine "laced up".

Basicly starts at 1:50


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66264259

So did the cops reapply his left shoelace after he shot himself?

Or did he do it himself before shooting himself?..cause you know it sucks dying without your shoes in order.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66264259


Almost everyone is saying he took that pic after shooting the cops. Yet if any of them would have took the time(1 sec) to look at the time it was uploaded, they would know it was hours before the attack on the cops...

So he had plenty of time to lace his shoe but he looks to be wearing a completely different pair after that pic which were probably already laced...

Shoelace conspiracy debunked5a
 Quoting: SN7

WRONG!!!
It was his last pciture he posted at instagram AFTER the shooting!
[link to i.dailymail.co.uk]
He was in Baltimore the day before shooting his ex gf . Now he is in Brooklyn.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66264259


With all due respect, I think you are mistaken. He shot his girlfriend in Baltimore early Saturday morning at about 5:00 am, then fled to NY. The photo without laces was taken before he shot the cops in NY at 3:00 pm. Plenty of time to buy new laces and post his instagram crap.

Do you really think he had time to take a photo and make that post after shooting 2 cops while running a city block to the subway station? Really...
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The photo with no laces was taken after he shot his girlfriend in Baltimore, MD and before he shot the cops in NY. There's no conspiracy there. He laced up before killing the cops.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4571341


NO! WRONG!!!!
The picture was taken in brooklyn after he killed the cops! It was his last picture before killing himself already full of blood !
He had no shoelace on his left shoe.

[link to i.dailymail.co.uk]

When he is taken to the stretcher he has neatly tied shoelaces on both shoes!

So this looks like a conspiracy! ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66264259


The picture was uploaded about 5 hours before the cop shooting so did the guy time travel or something? The blood was from his ex girlfriend who he shot before the attack on the cops...
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4324 = 4 x Combin(47;2)

4324 = 2 x 2 x 23 x 47 = 1st x 1st x 9th x 15th

FactorsSum = 74
RanksSum = 26
Total = 100

47 or 74 appears two times in independant ways.
911 appears in Ranks


In France the town have postal code 37300.
373 = 74th
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The new case is in Tarpon Springs, PostalCode 34689

34689 = 3 x 31 x 373 = 2nd x 11th x 74th

FactorsSum = 407
RanksSum = 87
Total = 474

4 & 7 together appears Three times in this case!!!

(And 474 = 2 x 237...)
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Last post Total correction, sorry:
FactorsSum = 407 = Triangular(4x7) + 1
RanksSum = 87
Total = 494 = 2 x 247

But now 4 & 7 appears four times here...
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Pic with passenger side window damaged.

[link to static01.nyt.com]

The reflection on the drivers side clearly shows the window was up and undamaged as well as no debris.

[link to a.abcnews.com]
 Quoting: Farrrrrout


Is this supposed to be the car the cops were whacked in?
Does anyone see blown out glass?
Any blood splatter?
How fucking clean does this cop car appear to you?

[link to a.abcnews.com]
 Quoting: Farrrrrout


Spotless. Also where I live I have never seen a police car with alloy rims. They all have black steel rims (like a full-size spare).
 Quoting: Monger of Many Things


He fired through the passenger window which any body can clearly see is blown out in this photo.

Why are you lying like this?

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 Quoting: Bluebird


As you can see, i posted a pic stating there was window damage as they became available. So why are YOU lying?
I understand the perp is said to have shot through the passenger side window and i would agree he must be a good shot because he clearly didn't miss the officer in the drivers seat at all as the photo record shows. I'm also surprised at the lack of blood in the car or at the scene.
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All the cops in NYC and he shoots two cops that were on an Anti Terror Drill? Cops everywhere? I dunno?

[link to zeeklytv.com]
 Quoting: Farrrrrout


The police commissioner said they were in the high crime area as part of requests for more police presence.

He did NOT mention anti-terror drill at all. Preliminary reporting can be inaccurate in the rush to get out the news.

And obviously one pic is inaccurate. Same reason. Any idea how many Ramos in NYC?

All shots fired through the passenger window so why others be blown out?
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It was widely reported they were working overtime on a drill. I don't know what role they may have had if any, maybe they were there just to keep civilians away from where the drill was being carried out.
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The problem is your crappy aussie news does. You are a bogon mate
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The problem is your crappy aussie news does. You are a bogon mate
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It was reported all over US media.putin
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Why are they behind green screens?
Why is there nothing on their uniforms? Badges, insignia's, name plate? Nothing!
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Why are they behind green screens?
Why is there nothing on their uniforms? Badges, insignia's, name plate? Nothing!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66273991


It appears to be quite normal and not out of the ordinary. I've seen it many times in news coverage. I'm just guessing but it's probably the standard NYPD police members file pic. Every cop would have one.
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This video put the scene in context.


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Who has eye brows like that? The second guy looks Arab.
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no more freedom of speech online.

This will have HUGE ramifications
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Another angle

[link to assets.nydailynews.com]

Anyone else think it strange that there is no blood on the sidewalk or the road?
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why is the unit sitting in "code 3" mode????...
this makes absolutely no sense either...
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