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(OP) User ID: 19607339 United States 12/10/2014 02:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are aware that the highest IQ's cannot be calculated in real-time, and can only be estimated after they've made their effect(s) on common experience.. You are aware of that right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62656122 Give an example of someone or a time when what you say has occurred And what the IQ was estimated at |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14366994 Canada 12/10/2014 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No I did not miss your point You were being negative and 'giving up' I was telling you to push through and TRY ANYWAY Actually I wasnt being negative. There are studies that certain brain diseases are the result of too much stuff going on in our heads, that the more relaxed, or balanced people are the less they are prone to it. This seems to be verifying what those people who have gone across and come back have mentioned... That knowledge, wisdom, is a gift, but if a particular person has too much of it, than they are not born right. Our capacity to learn things is limited for a reason. I do enjoy learning, however with a limited lifespan, the pursuit of certain things seems beyond the reach of most of the planet, so why? It's like the experience is more important than what we can know. I want to challenge the brilliant minds on GLP to think less about doom and more about things to evolve society Scientific breakthroughs helps to understand the world Science isn't everything but it is a logical way to view the world around us Normally I'd agree with you, about focusing on something else (science), but many have been warned spiritually to prepare or be ready for a dramatic world changing paradigm shift... So I think this doom focus would actually save a lot of lives. It inspires some to become more spiritual. |
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(OP) User ID: 19607339 United States 12/10/2014 02:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Open Your Eyes OYE No I did not miss your point You were being negative and 'giving up' I was telling you to push through and TRY ANYWAY Actually I wasnt being negative. There are studies that certain brain diseases are the result of too much stuff going on in our heads, that the more relaxed, or balanced people are the less they are prone to it. This seems to be verifying what those people who have gone across and come back have mentioned... That knowledge, wisdom, is a gift, but if a particular person has too much of it, than they are not born right. Our capacity to learn things is limited for a reason. I do enjoy learning, however with a limited lifespan, the pursuit of certain things seems beyond the reach of most of the planet, so why? It's like the experience is more important than what we can know. I want to challenge the brilliant minds on GLP to think less about doom and more about things to evolve society Scientific breakthroughs helps to understand the world Science isn't everything but it is a logical way to view the world around us Normally I'd agree with you, about focusing on something else (science), but many have been warned spiritually to prepare or be ready for a dramatic world changing paradigm shift... So I think this doom focus would actually save a lot of lives. It inspires some to become more spiritual. At some point in the future, Science will help define Spiritually in more precise terms and knowing Science will increase your Spiritually |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14366994 Canada 12/10/2014 02:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14366994 Actually I wasnt being negative. There are studies that certain brain diseases are the result of too much stuff going on in our heads, that the more relaxed, or balanced people are the less they are prone to it. This seems to be verifying what those people who have gone across and come back have mentioned... That knowledge, wisdom, is a gift, but if a particular person has too much of it, than they are not born right. Our capacity to learn things is limited for a reason. I do enjoy learning, however with a limited lifespan, the pursuit of certain things seems beyond the reach of most of the planet, so why? It's like the experience is more important than what we can know. I want to challenge the brilliant minds on GLP to think less about doom and more about things to evolve society Scientific breakthroughs helps to understand the world Science isn't everything but it is a logical way to view the world around us Normally I'd agree with you, about focusing on something else (science), but many have been warned spiritually to prepare or be ready for a dramatic world changing paradigm shift... So I think this doom focus would actually save a lot of lives. It inspires some to become more spiritual. At some point in the future, Science will help define Spiritually in more precise terms and knowing Science will increase your Spiritually Actually I believe it's the other way around. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62656122 United States 12/10/2014 02:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are aware that the highest IQ's cannot be calculated in real-time, and can only be estimated after they've made their effect(s) on common experience.. You are aware of that right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62656122 Give an example of someone or a time when what you say has occurred And what the IQ was estimated at Every historical example you provided. Einstein. Newton. Whoever else you want to add to the list. Notice that all of their IQ's are "estimated" by the impact that their innovations had -- not determined by some test. You'll also notice that these IQ estimates tend to rise over time, as future generations increase and reinforce their notions of who intelligent the geniuses were compared to the people of their day -- what IQ is really trying to get at. As their impact increases, over time, so does their estimated IQ (sort of like an ever increasing disparity between their awesomeness and the un-awsomeness of their contemporary human beings). |
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(OP) User ID: 19607339 United States 12/10/2014 02:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Open Your Eyes OYE I want to challenge the brilliant minds on GLP to think less about doom and more about things to evolve society Scientific breakthroughs helps to understand the world Science isn't everything but it is a logical way to view the world around us Normally I'd agree with you, about focusing on something else (science), but many have been warned spiritually to prepare or be ready for a dramatic world changing paradigm shift... So I think this doom focus would actually save a lot of lives. It inspires some to become more spiritual. At some point in the future, Science will help define Spiritually in more precise terms and knowing Science will increase your Spiritually Actually I believe it's the other way around. Depends on how your brain is wired Last Edited by Open Your Eyes OYE on 12/10/2014 02:12 AM |
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(OP) User ID: 19607339 United States 12/10/2014 02:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are aware that the highest IQ's cannot be calculated in real-time, and can only be estimated after they've made their effect(s) on common experience.. You are aware of that right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62656122 Give an example of someone or a time when what you say has occurred And what the IQ was estimated at Every historical example you provided. Einstein. Newton. Whoever else you want to add to the list. Notice that all of their IQ's are "estimated" by the impact that their innovations had -- not determined by some test. You'll also notice that these IQ estimates tend to rise over time, as future generations increase and reinforce their notions of who intelligent the geniuses were compared to the people of their day -- what IQ is really trying to get at. As their impact increases, over time, so does their estimated IQ (sort of like an ever increasing disparity between their awesomeness and the un-awsomeness of their contemporary human beings). Good Point How would you define the true measure of genius today? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65770603 United States 12/10/2014 02:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Being smarter simply means better screwing dumb ones . Quoting: woodhead 1844755 Nothing else , you still may do the same job . Btw Einstein - known fraud - is good example of deceptive self promotion Being Smart can lead to other things than what you said OP, smart is a matter of perspective in relation to a persons place in time. Ultimately one must look at the qualities which define intelligence, and these are not always easily measured by conventional means. For example, creativity is useful and often critical in survival, but that doesn't mean it can then translate into something which our current level of civilization sees as valuable or intelligent. Yet if society were to collapse the natural order would once more revert to what is natures choice for intelligence. So these ideas of intelligence are ideas taken out of a context of time and which may or may not have value as definitions of intelligence. Does that make some sense? As an example, on one of the very first Survival Series on TV the entire group of 30 people did not know how to start a fire without a book of matches or a lighter. Now, they all knew where they were going, and yet not one of these people bothered to read anything about basic survival skills which any Cub Scout would know. So were they all idiots? Probably not, but you see their idea of intelligence obviously hampered their logical reasoning. While another person who has any knowledge of the wilds would have considered these people unworthy of survival. |
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(OP) User ID: 19607339 United States 12/10/2014 02:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Being smarter simply means better screwing dumb ones . Quoting: woodhead 1844755 Nothing else , you still may do the same job . Btw Einstein - known fraud - is good example of deceptive self promotion Being Smart can lead to other things than what you said OP, smart is a matter of perspective in relation to a persons place in time. Ultimately one must look at the qualities which define intelligence, and these are not always easily measured by conventional means. For example, creativity is useful and often critical in survival, but that doesn't mean it can then translate into something which our current level of civilization sees as valuable or intelligent. Yet if society were to collapse the natural order would once more revert to what is natures choice for intelligence. So these ideas of intelligence are ideas taken out of a context of time and which may or may not have value as definitions of intelligence. Does that make some sense? As an example, on one of the very first Survival Series on TV the entire group of 30 people did not know how to start a fire without a book of matches or a lighter. Now, they all knew where they were going, and yet not one of these people bothered to read anything about basic survival skills which any Cub Scout would know. So were they all idiots? Probably not, but you see their idea of intelligence obviously hampered their logical reasoning. While another person who has any knowledge of the wilds would have considered these people unworthy of survival. Ok In this generation what would be the most accurate gauge of intelligence that includes creativity, logic, and other skills? In terms of what you would like to see humans discover/evolve in this generation in the realm of knowledge, what you would like to see occur? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62656122 United States 12/10/2014 02:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Given that "intelligence" can only be quantified when it is "intelligible" to another -- which means that the highest attainable intelligence at even given point in history is simply the highest-level of information that is intelligible to a standard audience (for lack of a better term), which, in truth ascribes the intelligence to the interpreter/translator and not the source (which is essentially what you're getting at by saying "explain via pure mathematics, etc"), I wouldn't. All math, all logic -- at their highest levels -- equal absolute one, which equals absolute zero, which requires a logical/mathematical break to emulate anything more than a single, indivisible reality. Sciene/Math/Logic is nearing this understanding via perception-experiments and multiple-potential "dimensions". At this point, "measuring" (certainly "estimating") intelligence is passé. At this point, all there is left to do is continue to innovate in all directions, to any degree -- all are equally intelligent. -- it seems like to me. |
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(OP) User ID: 19607339 United States 12/10/2014 02:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Given that "intelligence" can only be quantified when it is "intelligible" to another -- which means that the highest attainable intelligence at even given point in history is simply the highest-level of information that is intelligible to a standard audience (for lack of a better term), which, in truth ascribes the intelligence to the interpreter/translator and not the source (which is essentially what you're getting at by saying "explain via pure mathematics, etc"), I wouldn't. All math, all logic -- at their highest levels -- equal absolute one, which equals absolute zero, which requires a logical/mathematical break to emulate anything more than a single, indivisible reality. Sciene/Math/Logic is nearing this understanding via perception-experiments and multiple-potential "dimensions". At this point, "measuring" (certainly "estimating") intelligence is passé. At this point, all there is left to do is continue to innovate in all directions, to any degree -- all are equally intelligent. -- it seems like to me. Yes I understand, but us humans like to measure things It's the competitive nature that is instilled within our DNA Tesla received his scientific breakthroughs in visions Which aspect of science/mathematics or another form of knowledge would you like to see a dramatic breakthrough with a channeled vision from another realm (i.e. a huge paradigm shift in some particular aspect of specialized knowledge) |
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User ID: 65926988 Romania 12/10/2014 04:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The future genius will: (a) find the secret principle of the universe; (b) embody Henry Adams' (IQ=190) famous 1910 “call for the aid of another Newton" (IQ=215), someone who comes forth to give the “complete solution”, as Adams, who worked on the problem through Gibbs (IQ=200), Clausius (IQ=205), Darwin (IQ=175), etc., put it, to the elective affinities problem: explaining morality, sociology, economics, and history according to chemistry, physics, and mechanics, via pure mathematics, symbols, figures, and one "common formula"—in a sense, the "new Goethe" (IQ=230); (c) be the final version of Nietzsche’s 1883 prophesized “final Uberman”; and (d) solve, among other things, the: gravity/electromagnetic force problem, double slit problem, accelerating universe problem, and the spin-coupling problem (see: modern queries)—all integrated with new findings in particle physics, the final version of quantum mechanics, among other new experimental findings that may arise, all subsumed under the auspices of first law (fundamental law) and second law (supreme law) of thermodynamics—the only science, of universal content, "least likely", in the words of (Einstein (IQ=220), to ever be overthrow. Quoting: Open Your Eyes OYE [link to www.eoht.info] None of the above. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65832952 United Kingdom 12/10/2014 05:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The one that the op waits for is the same one Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad spoke about in his UN speech - His imam Mahdi -"He will come and he will cut through ignorance, superstition, prejudice by opening the gates of science and knowledge Be careful. |
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User ID: 65916074 United States 12/10/2014 05:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've done a decent amount of IQ study, mainly wanting to know my own, but I've never seen Einstein's over 160. I am busy at the moment so I'll just post one link. [link to www.cse.emory.edu] “Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla "3,6,9, damn good time" - Lil Jon |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65583839 Canada 12/10/2014 05:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nDEs say if people are born with too much information or knowledge, they don't turn out right. Maybe we're not meant to figure out everything and the experience is more important than what we know. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14366994 yes, they should follow the truth. the evidence. infinity. but they must continue to reach past God. infinity. fools. --- |
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User ID: 65930997 United States 12/10/2014 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The quickest way to all knowledge is to ponder the nature of intelligence itself. What does it mean to know? Philosophy is the king science. Take some magic mushrooms, and increase your raw brain power. Shrooms and cannabis make it so easy to evolve super-brains, it's like cheating. You are nothing, a void, but with a form. This form can know the emptiness of the void. When one is no longer just a person, but also the universe, they will know everything. To figure anything out, such as chemistry, biology, or astrophysics, you have to break everything down into the smallest parts. My brain is failing me. It's been 2 years of a lackluster diet, poor mental state, and loads of other unhealthy things. I haven't taken shrooms since January 2013, but I know that they are the greatest evolutionary tool you could ask for. Eventually, you no longer require equations and words. Shapes become your language, and you simply "know". It is pure knowing, and the best way to express the knowledge is to apply it to a creation of yours. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65903883 United States 12/10/2014 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The IQ trail leads backwards through time, not forwards. Decipher Swedenborg and follow the trail. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12833133 Anyone could be taught all of this, so does it reflect !Q? [link to quoteinvestigator.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62656122 United States 12/11/2014 02:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly. I've gotten so many "IQ" questions right by identifying relationships in presented materials that the presenters never conceived. I selected the "right answer" but for reasons that were (after viewing the logic behind the question/answer) totally alien to the asker/presenter/test-giver. |