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TheNothingTheNobody
User ID: 65701320 United States 12/02/2014 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a very good point. So we don't manufacture all that much these days right. So how much demand will there be for a flatscreen TV, a Cell Phone, a new Car? Much of what makes America run is well, Americans! The Farmer will still have food, even without the big green mega million John Deer tractor. The Ranchers wills till ranch beef, rabbits, sheep, chickens etc. Raw materials are here in abundance, you can cut wood and shape it into anything from a fire log to major construction. The people who will be hurt are the ones who have no skills, who believe in socialism, who do not want to work and happen to also believe they are owed something. First they will get hungry, then angry, then they will begin to steal or take, then they will be dead. Barter will be the currency of the day. We will not need money, people will be people and will pay their debts with work, or with services. The Fed and big government will be a distant memory. So will everything related to it. Americans will be just fine. This e who want the system to take care of them, will find it hard, very hard. Your scenario assumes this collapse is 'accidental'. It isn't. This has been planned for 100 years or more. They aleady have a solution too, and it involves an overt UN/globalist takeover. There will not be enough of us independent-minded people to stage a succesful resistance, we will be far outnumbered by the takers and those lacking the skills, or resources, to fend for themselves. Those of us who want no part of their pre-planned solution will be labeled domestic terrorists and dealt with accordingly. I concur. We have up to 30 Veterans being "Suicided" per day, right now, by "Academe". This is not going to be fun, no matter how you look at it. 'Black Water' Has been Killing Patriots in the USA for 13 years now...... |
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User ID: 16327562 United States 12/02/2014 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: P. Henry Your scenario assumes this collapse is 'accidental'. It isn't. This has been planned for 100 years or more. They aleady have a solution too, and it involves an overt UN/globalist takeover. There will not be enough of us independent-minded people to stage a succesful resistance, we will be far outnumbered by the takers and those lacking the skills, or resources, to fend for themselves. Those of us who want no part of their pre-planned solution will be labeled domestic terrorists and dealt with accordingly. I see what your saying but disagree. The one thing that separates us from the scenario you describe is that most people will NOT go along with it and will fight back. Conservatively, if only 1% of Americans fight back, that's somewhere around 5000 well aimed shots per state per day. I do not believe THEY will have enough Globalist Troops and Loyalist to overcome those losses. Remember, they will not have free reign, they will not get to drive around unimpeded. They will not get to go where they want, when they want to target individuals with massive force. In fact, they will be stuck in Green Zones, well insulated from the badlands just outside the fence. Fuel and Supply will have to traverse large regions of opposition controlled territory if they stand a chance of keeping their bellies full, their computers running and their armor and aircraft flying. And every shipment intercepted is more ammo, more fuel, more more more everything for their opposition. Remember, they have to be 100% correct every time, we only have to be correct once to totally disrupt their day. They do not stand a chance. Americans will not give up their freedom quite so easy as you make it seem. Thank you for clearly illustrating the folly of foreign invasion. It won't happen, which is why they had to install a puppet in an effort to take us down from the inside. That won't work either. I must disagree with you Sir. We have already BEEN invaded. The better part of 100,000 Russian Spetznatz are here NOW. Over 1 Million Chinese, another 1.5 Mil just across the Mex border. Boy, are you gonna be surprised once "IT" starts....... |
Eagle User ID: 65659273 United States 12/02/2014 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I LIVED the first depression, and DON'T want to live through another ! Men with ten mile stare; bread/eggs $.12 a loaf/dozen; 20 firecrackers, all the way from China ... ONE penny ! The rich/elite of the town who stared right through you, like you were NOT THERE, even though the belonged to the same church ! Hunting for meat for the table; having a BIG garden; Mother slaving over hot canning jars in August and September. AND, wearing you brothers hand-me-downs. It is RIGHT ON our door step, but most deny it, for the FEAR it engenders ! Eagle |
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User ID: 64243088 United States 12/02/2014 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1515146 This is a very good point. So we don't manufacture all that much these days right. So how much demand will there be for a flatscreen TV, a Cell Phone, a new Car? Much of what makes America run is well, Americans! The Farmer will still have food, even without the big green mega million John Deer tractor. The Ranchers wills till ranch beef, rabbits, sheep, chickens etc. Raw materials are here in abundance, you can cut wood and shape it into anything from a fire log to major construction. The people who will be hurt are the ones who have no skills, who believe in socialism, who do not want to work and happen to also believe they are owed something. First they will get hungry, then angry, then they will begin to steal or take, then they will be dead. Barter will be the currency of the day. We will not need money, people will be people and will pay their debts with work, or with services. The Fed and big government will be a distant memory. So will everything related to it. Americans will be just fine. This e who want the system to take care of them, will find it hard, very hard. Your scenario assumes this collapse is 'accidental'. It isn't. This has been planned for 100 years or more. They aleady have a solution too, and it involves an overt UN/globalist takeover. There will not be enough of us independent-minded people to stage a succesful resistance, we will be far outnumbered by the takers and those lacking the skills, or resources, to fend for themselves. Those of us who want no part of their pre-planned solution will be labeled domestic terrorists and dealt with accordingly. I see what your saying but disagree. The one thing that separates us from the scenario you describe is that most people will NOT go along with it and will fight back. Conservatively, if only 1% of Americans fight back, that's somewhere around 5000 well aimed shots per state per day. I do not believe THEY will have enough Globalist Troops and Loyalist to overcome those losses. Remember, they will not have free reign, they will not get to drive around unimpeded. They will not get to go where they want, when they want to target individuals with massive force. In fact, they will be stuck in Green Zones, well insulated from the badlands just outside the fence. Fuel and Supply will have to traverse large regions of opposition controlled territory if they stand a chance of keeping their bellies full, their computers running and their armor and aircraft flying. And every shipment intercepted is more ammo, more fuel, more more more everything for their opposition. Remember, they have to be 100% correct every time, we only have to be correct once to totally disrupt their day. They do not stand a chance. Americans will not give up their freedom quite so easy as you make it seem. I did not write this. ^^^^^^ And it quotes me. It was written by Anonymous Coward User ID: 1515146 at the top of page #4 of the thread Something strange is going on here. Does this mean somebody hacked me? Last Edited by A Muse on 12/02/2014 05:19 PM It is said that a grateful heart never gets depressed. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 63706883 United States 12/02/2014 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rome. Florence. London. And now... Each one of these and a dozen other empires were "trillion dollar" economies. Economies so vast and grand they were believed to be invincible, and each collapsed to dust. It's foolish to make such arrogant statements. Thinking before you speak is tantamount to looking at the toilet seat before you sit down to take a shit at a truck stop. It's the height of bad manners to speak to your betters in such a fashion. |
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User ID: 64911799 United States 12/02/2014 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ughhh, didn't someone running for President about 6 years ago promise to reduce the deficit ?? You mean..."the lawless one"? Or the one that is to come in the name of (nobel) peace (prize) but would destroy everything? Look at the evidence sheeple - the truth is staring you right in the face and you cant even see it. Hold on to your bootstraps - Ferguson is just the beginning. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65702922 United States 12/02/2014 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Back in 2008, when the markets tanked and governments all over the world began to realize that the petro-dollar was in fact collapsing and would not pull out of its tailspin, our leaders in America orchestrated a plan for the coming inevitable collapse of our financial system. Quoting: NewtonsOwn First, they started QE and began dumping extra money into the market to keep it afloat while they began to work their plan. The stockpiling of emergency supplies began in earnest, mostly in fema region 3, close to D.C. The stockpiling of massive amounts of hollow-point ammunition, and the preparation of fema emergency camps soon followed. The passage of laws like NDAA and the internet kill switch were green lighted, government officials were placed in news agencies to facilitate the proper dissemination of information to the people. Obama phones are being given away, so that everyone will be able to see and hear the dear leaders federally mandated emergency addresses when the time comes. Massive drills were prepared and executed, some with foreign forces assisting us military personnel, like the drill retaking Denver international airport from a hostile force by the US army and Russian spetznaz working together. The U.N. small arms treaty was signed by Obama, promising the U.N. that the disarming of the American populace would indeed take place at some point in the near future. Look this up, U.N. small arms treaty. You WILL be disarmed. Laws have been passed to seize your stockpiled food. See how this neatly circumvents the preparations some of the wiser amongst us have made? Look people, the plan for a controlled collapse of the American financial system has been put into place all around us for the past several years, and now they are ready to let the markets fail. QE has stopped. No more propping up the economy with funny money. They used QE to buy themselves time to implement their plan, and now the preparations are complete. They are ready. Are you? I wrote this on the fly, and I am sure I have left out a few things that can be added to this small list of preparations made by our faithful government so I encourage you all to help list them in this thread. I also hope somebody can help me get a pin for this so it will be seen by as many people as possible. This collapse is coming. Its going to happen. Nah, you didn't write it on the fly. You wrote it carefully to attempt to demoralize and send a message that it's all inevitable and we will be good little sheep and just accept it and be disarmed. Not gonna happen. So go back to your boss and tell them to fuck off. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62073245 United States 12/02/2014 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1515146 This is a very good point. So we don't manufacture all that much these days right. So how much demand will there be for a flatscreen TV, a Cell Phone, a new Car? Much of what makes America run is well, Americans! The Farmer will still have food, even without the big green mega million John Deer tractor. The Ranchers wills till ranch beef, rabbits, sheep, chickens etc. Raw materials are here in abundance, you can cut wood and shape it into anything from a fire log to major construction. The people who will be hurt are the ones who have no skills, who believe in socialism, who do not want to work and happen to also believe they are owed something. First they will get hungry, then angry, then they will begin to steal or take, then they will be dead. Barter will be the currency of the day. We will not need money, people will be people and will pay their debts with work, or with services. The Fed and big government will be a distant memory. So will everything related to it. Americans will be just fine. This e who want the system to take care of them, will find it hard, very hard. Your scenario assumes this collapse is 'accidental'. It isn't. This has been planned for 100 years or more. They aleady have a solution too, and it involves an overt UN/globalist takeover. There will not be enough of us independent-minded people to stage a succesful resistance, we will be far outnumbered by the takers and those lacking the skills, or resources, to fend for themselves. Those of us who want no part of their pre-planned solution will be labeled domestic terrorists and dealt with accordingly. I see what your saying but disagree. The one thing that separates us from the scenario you describe is that most people will NOT go along with it and will fight back. Conservatively, if only 1% of Americans fight back, that's somewhere around 5000 well aimed shots per state per day. I do not believe THEY will have enough Globalist Troops and Loyalist to overcome those losses. Remember, they will not have free reign, they will not get to drive around unimpeded. They will not get to go where they want, when they want to target individuals with massive force. In fact, they will be stuck in Green Zones, well insulated from the badlands just outside the fence. Fuel and Supply will have to traverse large regions of opposition controlled territory if they stand a chance of keeping their bellies full, their computers running and their armor and aircraft flying. And every shipment intercepted is more ammo, more fuel, more more more everything for their opposition. Remember, they have to be 100% correct every time, we only have to be correct once to totally disrupt their day. They do not stand a chance. Americans will not give up their freedom quite so easy as you make it seem. Thank you! I don't know why people don't understand this! Once the usurpers lose control of the logistics everything collapses. Technology needs energy, just in time delivery, technicians, high tech manufacturing facilities and materials. Once that stops, even for a short period of time it's over. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1439282 United States 12/02/2014 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Back in 2008, when the markets tanked and governments all over the world began to realize that the petro-dollar was in fact collapsing and would not pull out of its tailspin, our leaders in America orchestrated a plan for the coming inevitable collapse of our financial system. Quoting: NewtonsOwn First, they started QE and began dumping extra money into the market to keep it afloat while they began to work their plan. The stockpiling of emergency supplies began in earnest, mostly in fema region 3, close to D.C. The stockpiling of massive amounts of hollow-point ammunition, and the preparation of fema emergency camps soon followed. The passage of laws like NDAA and the internet kill switch were green lighted, government officials were placed in news agencies to facilitate the proper dissemination of information to the people. Obama phones are being given away, so that everyone will be able to see and hear the dear leaders federally mandated emergency addresses when the time comes. Massive drills were prepared and executed, some with foreign forces assisting us military personnel, like the drill retaking Denver international airport from a hostile force by the US army and Russian spetznaz working together. The U.N. small arms treaty was signed by Obama, promising the U.N. that the disarming of the American populace would indeed take place at some point in the near future. Look this up, U.N. small arms treaty. You WILL be disarmed. Laws have been passed to seize your stockpiled food. See how this neatly circumvents the preparations some of the wiser amongst us have made? Look people, the plan for a controlled collapse of the American financial system has been put into place all around us for the past several years, and now they are ready to let the markets fail. QE has stopped. No more propping up the economy with funny money. They used QE to buy themselves time to implement their plan, and now the preparations are complete. They are ready. Are you? I wrote this on the fly, and I am sure I have left out a few things that can be added to this small list of preparations made by our faithful government so I encourage you all to help list them in this thread. I also hope somebody can help me get a pin for this so it will be seen by as many people as possible. This collapse is coming. Its going to happen. The same thats already happened in south africa..... The NWO plan (and they haven't tried too hard to hide it) is to destroy middle classes in all white nations and particularly, transform the USA (the last bastion of a powerfully-armed citizenry) to Turd World Hellhole status by importing millions of diseased and criminal illegals and setting them against the whites. All this under brutal Martial Law, of course, utilizing multi-ethnic UN troops, and maybe Chinese and Russian troops too. The question no one ever answers is WHY would they do that |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1439282 United States 12/02/2014 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: P. Henry Your scenario assumes this collapse is 'accidental'. It isn't. This has been planned for 100 years or more. They aleady have a solution too, and it involves an overt UN/globalist takeover. There will not be enough of us independent-minded people to stage a succesful resistance, we will be far outnumbered by the takers and those lacking the skills, or resources, to fend for themselves. Those of us who want no part of their pre-planned solution will be labeled domestic terrorists and dealt with accordingly. I see what your saying but disagree. The one thing that separates us from the scenario you describe is that most people will NOT go along with it and will fight back. Conservatively, if only 1% of Americans fight back, that's somewhere around 5000 well aimed shots per state per day. I do not believe THEY will have enough Globalist Troops and Loyalist to overcome those losses. Remember, they will not have free reign, they will not get to drive around unimpeded. They will not get to go where they want, when they want to target individuals with massive force. In fact, they will be stuck in Green Zones, well insulated from the badlands just outside the fence. Fuel and Supply will have to traverse large regions of opposition controlled territory if they stand a chance of keeping their bellies full, their computers running and their armor and aircraft flying. And every shipment intercepted is more ammo, more fuel, more more more everything for their opposition. Remember, they have to be 100% correct every time, we only have to be correct once to totally disrupt their day. They do not stand a chance. Americans will not give up their freedom quite so easy as you make it seem. I did not write this. ^^^^^^ And it quotes me. It was written by Anonymous Coward User ID: 1515146 at the top of page #4 of the thread Something strange is going on here. Does this mean somebody hacked me? Relax Francis, someone just screwed up their "Quote" in the reply. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 46348647 United States 12/02/2014 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I LIVED the first depression, and DON'T want to live through another ! Quoting: Eagle 65659273 Men with ten mile stare; bread/eggs $.12 a loaf/dozen; 20 firecrackers, all the way from China ... ONE penny ! The rich/elite of the town who stared right through you, like you were NOT THERE, even though the belonged to the same church ! Hunting for meat for the table; having a BIG garden; Mother slaving over hot canning jars in August and September. AND, wearing you brothers hand-me-downs. It is RIGHT ON our door step, but most deny it, for the FEAR it engenders ! Eagle eagle, bad as that was, people don't grow things now, people can't cook and don't hunt. They got zero skills in those areas, they only riot and loot, and look to the government for food and shelter. This time is really going to suck. |
Hard Eight
User ID: 42616711 United States 12/02/2014 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | silly responses aimed at the current administration only suggest small perception, and an inability to properly address the real problem. this is a top-tier thread and deserves better. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65243531 Have a go, Einstein Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65243531 United States 12/02/2014 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We've had collapses before... what makes this so different? (I agree w you that one is coming, but would like to keep the conversation going) Quoting: SeaCharger The massive preparation that our government has undertaken has convinced me that, by their actions, they believe this coming collapse will make all previous collapses look like a kindergarten picnic. The have militarized law enforcement and stockpiled enough supplies and ammunition to fight a decade long war. They have seized control of the media, green lighted legislation to strip the rights of anybody they deem a threat. This controlled takeover is reminiscent of the Nazi parties 1930's takeover of Germany. again, what a breath of fresh air from recent threads. as AC's, our job is only to ask: what is my role going forward? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59308318 United States 12/02/2014 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op is 100% correct and this whole war with Russia is just another ploy to divide the sheep. I am afraid we the people deserve what we are about to get. Sitting around all your life pretending life is wonderful and America is great will get you no where. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29363074 Right on. The US is about to get its comeuppance from all the decades of living off the backs of citizens of third world countries. It's our turn, the parasites have sucked the country dry and are moving on to their next host. Btw, good post OP. Don't forget, off the backs of its very OWN citizens, since about 1913. The year of the creation of the fed reserve and the irs. No coincidence the First World War also happened after the creation of these horrid entities. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65347948 United States 12/02/2014 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The value of the US dollar is determined in large part by the fact that oil is sold in US dollars. If that trade shifts to a different currency, countries around the world won't need all their US money. The resulting sell-off of US dollars would weaken the currency dramatically. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35101604 That will lead to a massive export boom and huge business uptick in America. As every country scrambles to buy from USA anything of substance (aircraft, trucks, bulldozers, glass, corn syrup, paper, anything of substance) and pay with the proceeds of selling T-bills. Business will look real good as willing buyers who are willing to pay ever higher prices all come out of the woodwork. Happy times for business, taxes for the government, ever more greenbacks printed to redeem those T-bills. Pretty good until you want to import something. But then USA was self-sufficient before, USA can be self-sufficient again. Just bring our boys home, close overseas military bases and we will be fine in America. And where may I ask are those dollars going to go ? from the 100's of billions in sales ? into our economy ? No one controlling where those dollars go ? It will do two things. Send inflation threw the roof and send prices of everything skyhigh. Why do you think they have inflated the stock market ? Because that money is in purgatory/Sitting there for the creature comforts of retirement. That money is not getting into the real economy in large amounts. If they unleashed all the inflation created in the stock market as of late, it would crush the dollar and prices would go through the roof. Same thing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65347948 United States 12/02/2014 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interestingly, Why are you using Tesla's avatar? It don't make you any smarter than you really are. Just in time, here come the shills.... 'Doesn't' would be the proper Just sayin moran ! |
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Eagle User ID: 65659273 United States 12/02/2014 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | , Poster 46348647 ...... I KNOW they DON'T have the back yards to plant gardens, woods to hunt in, and THAT IS just why the majority of the people will probably die of starvation, from the collapse of the economy, jobs and pensions from state/government ! I have prepared for that for my entire family, even though they can't see the 'trees for the forest'. One just has to do all they can to stock food for a year; be ready to defend same from 'Whomever' and have the seeds/tools and land to plant same ! New society will be run by NEW RULES, lol ! Number one rule will be Everybody works ! Rule two is .." If you don't work, you DON'T EAT ! " Rule three ... "Work comes FIRST ." End of the welfare society ! Eagle |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65347948 United States 12/02/2014 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The value of the US dollar is determined in large part by the fact that oil is sold in US dollars. If that trade shifts to a different currency, countries around the world won't need all their US money. The resulting sell-off of US dollars would weaken the currency dramatically. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35101604 That will lead to a massive export boom and huge business uptick in America. As every country scrambles to buy from USA anything of substance (aircraft, trucks, bulldozers, glass, corn syrup, paper, anything of substance) and pay with the proceeds of selling T-bills. Business will look real good as willing buyers who are willing to pay ever higher prices all come out of the woodwork. Happy times for business, taxes for the government, ever more greenbacks printed to redeem those T-bills. Pretty good until you want to import something. But then USA was self-sufficient before, USA can be self-sufficient again. Just bring our boys home, close overseas military bases and we will be fine in America. And where may I ask are those dollars going to go ? from the 100's of billions in sales ? into our economy ? No one controlling where those dollars go ? It will do two things. Send inflation threw the roof and send prices of everything skyhigh. Why do you think they have inflated the stock market ? Because that money is in purgatory/Sitting there for the creature comforts of retirement. That money is not getting into the real economy in large amounts. If they unleashed all the inflation created in the stock market as of late, it would crush the dollar and prices would go through the roof. Same thing. If you think about it, how much debt is being supported by the inflation of the stock market the last few years ? People's personal financial statements get them loans on everything. Stocks, bonds, treasury's, equities are subject to change on a markets moment. They are using manipulated numbers to purchase real goods, through loans leveraged with all these paper instruments and electronic digits. It can't fail ! or it's over. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19211070 United States 12/02/2014 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the Fed can stamp ONE 20 trillion Dollar coin and we will have a surplus =). It's true so relax. Money is nothing but a way to manage resources and the work we do. US Dollar is backed up by the US DOD and it's Nuclear arsenal. Don't worry about the Gold its just a metal. It wont hurt nobody. |