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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4264592 United States 12/02/2014 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Back in 2008, when the markets tanked and governments all over the world began to realize that the petro-dollar was in fact collapsing and would not pull out of its tailspin, our leaders in America orchestrated a plan for the coming inevitable collapse of our financial system. Quoting: NewtonsOwn First, they started QE and began dumping extra money into the market to keep it afloat while they began to work their plan. The stockpiling of emergency supplies began in earnest, mostly in fema region 3, close to D.C. The stockpiling of massive amounts of hollow-point ammunition, and the preparation of fema emergency camps soon followed. The passage of laws like NDAA and the internet kill switch were green lighted, government officials were placed in news agencies to facilitate the proper dissemination of information to the people. Obama phones are being given away, so that everyone will be able to see and hear the dear leaders federally mandated emergency addresses when the time comes. Massive drills were prepared and executed, some with foreign forces assisting us military personnel, like the drill retaking Denver international airport from a hostile force by the US army and Russian spetznaz working together. The U.N. small arms treaty was signed by Obama, promising the U.N. that the disarming of the American populace would indeed take place at some point in the near future. Look this up, U.N. small arms treaty. You WILL be disarmed. Laws have been passed to seize your stockpiled food. See how this neatly circumvents the preparations some of the wiser amongst us have made? Look people, the plan for a controlled collapse of the American financial system has been put into place all around us for the past several years, and now they are ready to let the markets fail. QE has stopped. No more propping up the economy with funny money. They used QE to buy themselves time to implement their plan, and now the preparations are complete. They are ready. Are you? I wrote this on the fly, and I am sure I have left out a few things that can be added to this small list of preparations made by our faithful government so I encourage you all to help list them in this thread. I also hope somebody can help me get a pin for this so it will be seen by as many people as possible. This collapse is coming. Its going to happen. Nah, you didn't write it on the fly. You wrote it carefully to attempt to demoralize and send a message that it's all inevitable and we will be good little sheep and just accept it and be disarmed. Not gonna happen. So go back to your boss and tell them to fuck off. |
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User ID: 65323411 United States 12/02/2014 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The value of the US dollar is determined in large part by the fact that oil is sold in US dollars. If that trade shifts to a different currency, countries around the world won't need all their US money. The resulting sell-off of US dollars would weaken the currency dramatically. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35101604 That will lead to a massive export boom and huge business uptick in America. As every country scrambles to buy from USA anything of substance (aircraft, trucks, bulldozers, glass, corn syrup, paper, anything of substance) and pay with the proceeds of selling T-bills. Business will look real good as willing buyers who are willing to pay ever higher prices all come out of the woodwork. Happy times for business, taxes for the government, ever more greenbacks printed to redeem those T-bills. Pretty good until you want to import something. But then USA was self-sufficient before, USA can be self-sufficient again. Just bring our boys home, close overseas military bases and we will be fine in America. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 58670080 United States 12/02/2014 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The value of the US dollar is determined in large part by the fact that oil is sold in US dollars. If that trade shifts to a different currency, countries around the world won't need all their US money. The resulting sell-off of US dollars would weaken the currency dramatically. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35101604 That will lead to a massive export boom and huge business uptick in America. As every country scrambles to buy from USA anything of substance (aircraft, trucks, bulldozers, glass, corn syrup, paper, anything of substance) and pay with the proceeds of selling T-bills. Business will look real good as willing buyers who are willing to pay ever higher prices all come out of the woodwork. Happy times for business, taxes for the government, ever more greenbacks printed to redeem those T-bills. Pretty good until you want to import something. But then USA was self-sufficient before, USA can be self-sufficient again. Just bring our boys home, close overseas military bases and we will be fine in America. there will be no export boom or business uptick. this country is finished. |
ByZeus User ID: 14703716 United States 12/02/2014 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP IS CORRECT / ACCURATE IN THEIR FINDINGS look around folks, think about any and all govt employees you ever had the "joy" of interacting with. Its "2014" ( 2015 in a month ) and our daily trials are school shootings, banker resource wars, a prison complex that makes money off of lockingYOU away. now i dont know about you, but thats pretty fucked up. that "somebody" out there would trade your life for some fuckin fiat. In Doc Hollidays' memorable words OP- "SAY WHEN" Z Ps The collapse has already begun. just because the "history book" hasnt proclaimed it official . .look around ladies and gentlemen. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4264592 United States 12/02/2014 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Back in 2008, when the markets tanked and governments all over the world began to realize that the petro-dollar was in fact collapsing and would not pull out of its tailspin, our leaders in America orchestrated a plan for the coming inevitable collapse of our financial system. Quoting: NewtonsOwn First, they started QE and began dumping extra money into the market to keep it afloat while they began to work their plan. The stockpiling of emergency supplies began in earnest, mostly in fema region 3, close to D.C. The stockpiling of massive amounts of hollow-point ammunition, and the preparation of fema emergency camps soon followed. The passage of laws like NDAA and the internet kill switch were green lighted, government officials were placed in news agencies to facilitate the proper dissemination of information to the people. Obama phones are being given away, so that everyone will be able to see and hear the dear leaders federally mandated emergency addresses when the time comes. Massive drills were prepared and executed, some with foreign forces assisting us military personnel, like the drill retaking Denver international airport from a hostile force by the US army and Russian spetznaz working together. The U.N. small arms treaty was signed by Obama, promising the U.N. that the disarming of the American populace would indeed take place at some point in the near future. Look this up, U.N. small arms treaty. You WILL be disarmed. Laws have been passed to seize your stockpiled food. See how this neatly circumvents the preparations some of the wiser amongst us have made? Look people, the plan for a controlled collapse of the American financial system has been put into place all around us for the past several years, and now they are ready to let the markets fail. QE has stopped. No more propping up the economy with funny money. They used QE to buy themselves time to implement their plan, and now the preparations are complete. They are ready. Are you? I wrote this on the fly, and I am sure I have left out a few things that can be added to this small list of preparations made by our faithful government so I encourage you all to help list them in this thread. I also hope somebody can help me get a pin for this so it will be seen by as many people as possible. This collapse is coming. Its going to happen. The same thats already happened in south africa..... The NWO plan (and they haven't tried too hard to hide it) is to destroy middle classes in all white nations and particularly, transform the USA (the last bastion of a powerfully-armed citizenry) to Turd World Hellhole status by importing millions of diseased and criminal illegals and setting them against the whites. All this under brutal Martial Law, of course, utilizing multi-ethnic UN troops, and maybe Chinese and Russian troops too. That is exactly it. It isn't for more Democratic voters - that is merely a short term added benefit. They aren't importing a bunch of Caucasian immigrants. If thousands upon thousands of white Canadians all the sudden showed up on the northern border, they would not be allowed in. The goal is to use the "minorities" - who have no allegiance to this country and have a dislike for the white people of this country - to turn them loose on us. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1150004 United States 12/02/2014 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rome. Florence. London. And now... Each one of these and a dozen other empires were "trillion dollar" economies. Economies so vast and grand they were believed to be invincible, and each collapsed to dust. It's foolish to make such arrogant statements. Thinking before you speak is tantamount to looking at the toilet seat before you sit down to take a shit at a truck stop. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62073245 United States 12/02/2014 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The value of the US dollar is determined in large part by the fact that oil is sold in US dollars. If that trade shifts to a different currency, countries around the world won't need all their US money. The resulting sell-off of US dollars would weaken the currency dramatically. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35101604 That will lead to a massive export boom and huge business uptick in America. As every country scrambles to buy from USA anything of substance (aircraft, trucks, bulldozers, glass, corn syrup, paper, anything of substance) and pay with the proceeds of selling T-bills. Business will look real good as willing buyers who are willing to pay ever higher prices all come out of the woodwork. Happy times for business, taxes for the government, ever more greenbacks printed to redeem those T-bills. Pretty good until you want to import something. But then USA was self-sufficient before, USA can be self-sufficient again. Just bring our boys home, close overseas military bases and we will be fine in America. You are partially right. They will be selling everything not bolted down and everyone here will be starving to death trying to buy things that are no longer available to us. Everything will be sold overseas but your money wont be any good. |
A Muse
User ID: 64243088 United States 12/02/2014 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP IS CORRECT / ACCURATE IN THEIR FINDINGS Quoting: ByZeus 14703716 look around folks, think about any and all govt employees you ever had the "joy" of interacting with. Its "2014" ( 2015 in a month ) and our daily trials are school shootings, banker resource wars, a prison complex that makes money off of lockingYOU away. now i dont know about you, but thats pretty fucked up. that "somebody" out there would trade your life for some fuckin fiat. In Doc Hollidays' memorable words OP- "SAY WHEN" Z Ps The collapse has already begun. just because the "history book" hasnt proclaimed it official . .look around ladies and gentlemen. It is said that a grateful heart never gets depressed. |
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User ID: 65573902 United States 12/02/2014 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Profanity is a tool for the ignorant. That guys opinion has no value. Please...Continue. 'At this time also the Jews began war, because they were forbidden to mutilate their genitals. (quot vetabantur mutilare genitalia) ~Historia Augusta: For to that faculty in us which is unreasonable and disordered and violent, and does not come from the gods, but from evil spirits, the ancients gave the name Titans, that is to say, those that are punished and subjected to correction.~ Plutarch. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2562806 United States 12/02/2014 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We've had collapses before... what makes this so different? (I agree w you that one is coming, but would like to keep the conversation going) Quoting: SeaCharger The massive preparation that our government has undertaken has convinced me that, by their actions, they believe this coming collapse will make all previous collapses look like a kindergarten picnic. The have militarized law enforcement and stockpiled enough supplies and ammunition to fight a decade long war. They have seized control of the media, green lighted legislation to strip the rights of anybody they deem a threat. This controlled takeover is reminiscent of the Nazi parties 1930's takeover of Germany. The gooberment will just announce that they are printing red money instead of green money. Declare green money useless. Economy is fixed. There may indeed be a new currency, deeply devalued from the current one. But that would NOT fix the economy, at least not in the short to medium term. Prices for imports (and nearly everything Americans consume is imported) would go thru the roof, because the new currency would have less purchasing power abroad. US companies would export more of their products, which would lead to shortages. Your debts will likely NOT be devalued, because the bankers are running the show. So we'd all become poorer. See Argentina or Venezuela for examples. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29363074 Canada 12/02/2014 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op is 100% correct and this whole war with Russia is just another ploy to divide the sheep. I am afraid we the people deserve what we are about to get. Sitting around all your life pretending life is wonderful and America is great will get you no where. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 777361 Canada 12/02/2014 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We've had collapses before... what makes this so different? (I agree w you that one is coming, but would like to keep the conversation going) Quoting: SeaCharger The massive preparation that our government has undertaken has convinced me that, by their actions, they believe this coming collapse will make all previous collapses look like a kindergarten picnic. The have militarized law enforcement and stockpiled enough supplies and ammunition to fight a decade long war. They have seized control of the media, green lighted legislation to strip the rights of anybody they deem a threat. This controlled takeover is reminiscent of the Nazi parties 1930's takeover of Germany. The gooberment will just announce that they are printing red money instead of green money. Declare green money useless. Economy is fixed. Money hasnt been green for a while |
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User ID: 46790668 United States 12/02/2014 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I couldn't care less what the UN has to say about America and her armed citizens. As Americans we are protected by the constitution of the United States. The second amendment will not be abolished. No one is going to disarm us. Trust me. For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. -Carl Sagan. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2562806 United States 12/02/2014 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op is 100% correct and this whole war with Russia is just another ploy to divide the sheep. I am afraid we the people deserve what we are about to get. Sitting around all your life pretending life is wonderful and America is great will get you no where. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29363074 Right on. The US is about to get its comeuppance from all the decades of living off the backs of citizens of third world countries. It's our turn, the parasites have sucked the country dry and are moving on to their next host. Btw, good post OP. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24948545 United States 12/02/2014 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The value of the US dollar is determined in large part by the fact that oil is sold in US dollars. If that trade shifts to a different currency, countries around the world won't need all their US money. The resulting sell-off of US dollars would weaken the currency dramatically. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35101604 That will lead to a massive export boom and huge business uptick in America. As every country scrambles to buy from USA anything of substance (aircraft, trucks, bulldozers, glass, corn syrup, paper, anything of substance) and pay with the proceeds of selling T-bills. Business will look real good as willing buyers who are willing to pay ever higher prices all come out of the woodwork. Happy times for business, taxes for the government, ever more greenbacks printed to redeem those T-bills. Pretty good until you want to import something. But then USA was self-sufficient before, USA can be self-sufficient again. Just bring our boys home, close overseas military bases and we will be fine in America. Only problem with your theory is that we do not have a manufacturing base anymore, it has all been shipped out. What exactly are we going to export? It will take another 10-15 years to re-staff and get the plants rolling again. But then the mega-corps will then start complaining that they are not making enough profits and then they will be looking at how to get cheap labor, then they will ship it out of the country, again. |
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User ID: 64243088 United States 12/02/2014 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The value of the US dollar is determined in large part by the fact that oil is sold in US dollars. If that trade shifts to a different currency, countries around the world won't need all their US money. The resulting sell-off of US dollars would weaken the currency dramatically. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35101604 That will lead to a massive export boom and huge business uptick in America. As every country scrambles to buy from USA anything of substance (aircraft, trucks, bulldozers, glass, corn syrup, paper, anything of substance) and pay with the proceeds of selling T-bills. Business will look real good as willing buyers who are willing to pay ever higher prices all come out of the woodwork. Happy times for business, taxes for the government, ever more greenbacks printed to redeem those T-bills. Pretty good until you want to import something. But then USA was self-sufficient before, USA can be self-sufficient again. Just bring our boys home, close overseas military bases and we will be fine in America. It won't be fine. The times you remember were when the American dollar was on the gold standard and was strong. With a week dollar we may bring manufacturing back but the picture won't be rosey. We will be like China was. American will have factories of slaves making stuff for the people in the east who have the money. Most Americans will be living in previously unimaginable poverty and hope to escape to the East. Most workers will be robots and artificial intelligence. Anybody that is not rich will just be another worthless expendable commodity. Most people have no idea what is coming. It is said that a grateful heart never gets depressed. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1515146 United States 12/02/2014 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a very good point. So we don't manufacture all that much these days right. So how much demand will there be for a flatscreen TV, a Cell Phone, a new Car? Much of what makes America run is well, Americans! The Farmer will still have food, even without the big green mega million John Deer tractor. The Ranchers wills till ranch beef, rabbits, sheep, chickens etc. Raw materials are here in abundance, you can cut wood and shape it into anything from a fire log to major construction. The people who will be hurt are the ones who have no skills, who believe in socialism, who do not want to work and happen to also believe they are owed something. First they will get hungry, then angry, then they will begin to steal or take, then they will be dead. Barter will be the currency of the day. We will not need money, people will be people and will pay their debts with work, or with services. The Fed and big government will be a distant memory. So will everything related to it. Americans will be just fine. This e who want the system to take care of them, will find it hard, very hard. |
A Muse
User ID: 64243088 United States 12/02/2014 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP and poster 35##1604 DO HAVE ALL the answers laid out ! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65659273 Read them and weep ! Instead of any kind of 'civil war', they have keep the individual patriotic Americans APART, while creating the usual diversion In St L. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^TRUE! It is said that a grateful heart never gets depressed. |
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