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we assume that planets are formed outside stars

 
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The physicist, Peter Warlow, made the colorful comment in 1982 that we assume that planets are formed outside stars "for the 'obvious' reason - that's where we find them." However, "We humans, equally 'obviously,' are outside our mothers - yet we did not start there!" It is far simpler and infinitely more efficient if planets are 'born' at intervals by the electrical ejection of charged material from the similarly charged interiors of larger bodies – gas giants from stars, and rocky planets from gas giants. We have circumstantial evidence for such a proposal in the binary stars found after a nova outburst. Also most of the rocky bodies in the solar system closely orbit a gas giant. Electrical ejection in a massive internal lightning flash answers the question of the source of the energy. It is not dispersive like an explosion. The electromagnetic pinch effect will produce a jet of matter, rather like a coronal mass ejection, only on a much grander scale. The result is a proto-planet plus a stream of gases and meteoric debris.
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You think that maybe comets ,are maybe electrical instead of frozen blocks of water ???
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I am always looking for new ideas instead of old traditional theories people take for facts.
-Never did believe that a river formed the Grand Canyon.
I think it was formed then the water flowed through it...
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i read a series of books called "the life and teachings of the masters of the far east" written in the 1930's by baird spaulding. the series is based on his adventures over 5 years in the 1890's traveling in the himilayas and living amongst the great tibetan masters. in part of the one of the books, it talks about the solar system and how planets were formed. the tibetan masters say that all planets are born from the sun, and that it will happen again. when it happens, all the planets move out an orbit. mb earth's orbit is the prime location for life to develop, but planets only stay here for so long. thats why mars is kinda like an old, used up version of earth, and venus is kinda like a newer, waiting to be used planet. and the planet we call mercury will probably end up bein the next planet's moon.
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I thought planets were designed by the same company that designed the earth to come up to the ultimate question to the ultimate answer which is 42...

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Re: we assume that planets are formed outside stars
I have long-believed that planets are the result of solar ejections. We are all 'star stuff'.
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Re: we assume that planets are formed outside stars
However, "We humans, equally 'obviously,' are outside our mothers - yet we did not start there!"

A new concept to me. But it fits in the puzzle very very good.

--we assume that planets are formed outside stars "for the 'obvious' reason - that's where we find them
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thanks for the moral support.
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planets are the result of solar erections? oh, sorry... my mistake.
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Maybe JUPITER will ignite someday and grow into a star!!

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Re: we assume that planets are formed outside stars
Well, of course EVERYTHING was once inside a star. However, the idea that planets form and get pooped out from gas giants seems pretty woowoo to me. If for no other reason that it would take an increadible amount of energy for a rocky planet to escape a gas giant's gravity.
That gas giants have the highest number of rocky worlds (moons) orbiting them shouldn't be a surprise. Their gravity would keep more of the primordial disk in it's vicinity, and would also have a better chance of capturing wandering moons into their orbits.
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Wondering moons?

So where exactly did these moon come from originally?

Makes sense to me that the sun ejected the planets. Look at the sizes as you go out from the sun. As if the planets grow over time as they escape the sun.

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thank you decksurf - that was a very interesting article!
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Been going through their links.

New ideas to me.

Planets growing, suns giving birth, electrical comets.

Religeon and rock carvings tied in too.

My old brain is going through dynamic changes.

If I shared any of this info at work they would think me insane. They being mostly traditional christians.

Hard to believe how closed minded they can be.

No thinking outside of the box for most of them.
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I have long-believed that planets are the result of solar ejections. We are all 'star stuff'.
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Makes sense that something born of something else would then stay close and orbit it.
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Re: we assume that planets are formed outside stars
Been going through their links.

New ideas to me.

Planets growing, suns giving birth, electrical comets.

Religeon and rock carvings tied in too.

My old brain is going through dynamic changes.

If I shared any of this info at work they would think me insane. They being mostly traditional christians.

Hard to believe how closed minded they can be.

No thinking outside of the box for most of them.
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We are relatively new into the Aquarian Age...and this information is relatively new in becoming more readily available and discussed. Give them time and don't stop 'teaching' them.

There is absolutely no one else in my RL that is up on this stuff either.

Frusterating and slightly isolating.
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i read a series of books called "the life and teachings of the masters of the far east" written in the 1930's by baird spaulding. the series is based on his adventures over 5 years in the 1890's traveling in the himilayas and living amongst the great tibetan masters. in part of the one of the books, it talks about the solar system and how planets were formed. the tibetan masters say that all planets are born from the sun, and that it will happen again. when it happens, all the planets move out an orbit. mb earth's orbit is the prime location for life to develop, but planets only stay here for so long. thats why mars is kinda like an old, used up version of earth, and venus is kinda like a newer, waiting to be used planet. and the planet we call mercury will probably end up bein the next planet's moon.
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That's the conclusion I came to several years ago. It just makes sense to me for a number of reasons. It's cool to see there might be some truth to it.
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You think that maybe comets ,are maybe electrical instead of frozen blocks of water ???
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or maybe electrons with all their yet-to-be-discovered mini-components are a lot like water and heavy mineral ice in microcosmic space-terms.

As above, so below.
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Re: we assume that planets are formed outside stars
stars could be formed from planets smashing each into one big clump until it ignites.
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Re: we assume that planets are formed outside stars
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SS: the moon and star, moon and sun, moon sun stars, etc .. on those artifacts are the secret order .. .. you ponder the symbology upon artifacts everywhere and it is very simple .. this temple belongs to the secret order and always has and always will be .. your memory is short but the secret order has very long memory ..
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[link to www.holoscience.com]
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SS: the moon and star, moon and sun, moon sun stars, etc .. on those artifacts are the secret order .. .. you ponder the symbology upon artifacts everywhere and it is very simple .. this temple belongs to the secret order and always has and always will be .. your memory is short but the secret order has very long memory ..
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blah, blah, blah, secret order, blah blah blah- yes of course, eveything has to have a secret order! humans can never know anything, because they are too weak! one flag flying high saluting your weakness preaching disinfo!
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ha ha
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stars could be formed from planets smashing each into one big clump until it ignites.
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laugh 1rof1
Reality is interesting enough.
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Re: we assume that planets are formed outside stars
Wondering moons?

So where exactly did these moon come from originally?

Makes sense to me that the sun ejected the planets. Look at the sizes as you go out from the sun. As if the planets grow over time as they escape the sun.

OM
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They could come from many places. As our solar system formed they were all over the place. Many of them merged to become the rocky planets we have today. Some could be from the outer solar system that were perturbed out of their original orbits and moved in, only to be captured.

The sun spitting out planets just makes NO sense. Nothing like a planet could emerge from a furnace like that intact. If it somehow could, it would be sterile. But there are way to many things to overcome. And Planets don't necessarily get bigger futher out . Mars is further out yet much smaller than Earth. Jupiter is the biggest planet in the solar system, yet orbits inside of Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto, (which is very small).
Reality is interesting enough.
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Makes sense to me that the sun ejected the planets. Look at the sizes as you go out from the sun. As if the planets grow over time as they escape the sun.

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good point! or mb the sun loses a little mass/gets a little weaker every time it ejects a new planet. thats why planets are getting smaller. you could almost picture the sun as the egg and comets as sperm. the comets 'fertilize' the sun, causing it to give birth to a new baby.
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They could come from many places. As our solar system formed they were all over the place. Many of them merged to become the rocky planets we have today. Some could be from the outer solar system that were perturbed out of their original orbits and moved in, only to be captured.

The sun spitting out planets just makes NO sense. Nothing like a planet could emerge from a furnace like that intact. If it somehow could, it would be sterile. But there are way to many things to overcome. And Planets don't necessarily get bigger futher out . Mars is further out yet much smaller than Earth. Jupiter is the biggest planet in the solar system, yet orbits inside of Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto, (which is very small).
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actually it makes as much sense as wandering moons or palnets solidifying out of space dust. a sterile molten ball of mass could emerge from the furnace of the sun, then spend a coulple billion years cooling and preparing for life through chemical reaction as it bumps out orbits to the spot that is prime for development of life. and mb jupiter was our sun's 'star' pupil. it started with neptune and uranus, then hit its peak with saturn and jupiter, and has been in decline since. each planet would also have the influence/residual effects of whatever form of life inhabited it. thats what happened to the planet that used to exist between mars and jupiter. mars as well, may have been alot bigger when it was still covered with water.
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sun--> sidewayscomet<---
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