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Will Hungary be the next country to be the target of a US/EU sponsored regime change?

 
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Interesting question:

"The refusal of Prime Minister Viktor Orban and his ruling Fidesz party to join the new US and EU Cold War against Russia, notably by agreeing to build the South Stream gas pipeline, in addition to the stinging policies adopted against the foreign owned banks and energy companies, has set off alarm bells in Western capitals. According to William Engdahl, the question which now has to be asked is: will Hungary be the next country to be the target of a US/EU sponsored regime change?"

"The head of the Hungarian Central Bank then demanded the IMF close its offices in Budapest. In addition, echoing Iceland, the State Attorney General brought charges against the country’s three previous prime ministers because of the criminal amount of debt into which they plunged the nation.'

"Next we can expect the National Endowment for Democracy and the usual US Government-backed NGO’s to find an excuse to launch mass opposition protests against Fidesz and Orban for his unforgivable crime of trying to make Hungary’s energy independent of the US-created insanity in Ukraine.'
[link to www.voltairenet.org]

And looks like whoever wrote this article may be right about US/EU sponsored protests. This new protest on November 17-18 smells very fishy and some people have mentioned that it happened "out of nowhere" and the protesters seemed to be very well prepared and backed up

"Hungary’s protesters were encouraged partly by America’s rising criticism of their government."
[link to www.economist.com]

And here is another piece of EU/US propaganda with this title:

Is Hungary The Next Ukraine? Protests Show Country Ripe For Conflict Between Russia And Europe
"While Hungary was never as close to Russia as Ukraine, an astounding 72 percent of Hungarians said in 2010 most Hungarians are worse off than they were under communist rule when they were intrinsically linked to Russia and the rest of the Eastern Bloc."

"Orban and the Hungarian parliament, of which Orban’s Fidesz party has a majority two-thirds control, passed a law earlier this month that would allow for a Russian gas pipeline that bypasses Ukraine for Hungary. The EU is starkly opposed."

[link to www.ibtimes.com]

I would like to add that here most people (most sane people that is) are not pretty fond of the EU and the US, so this "mass" pro-EU protest is in my opinion most definitely carefully set up.

Remember how it all started in Ukraine?


Also another good "reason" for the US/EU mafia to make Hungary the next taget is this:


Hungary repays EUR 2 billion of EU loan taken out during financial crisis

"Hungary still owes EUR 1.5bn on the loan, which it must pay in 2016, the ministry said, adding: “The government is committed to maintaining the fiscal balance and reducing state debt.”
[link to www.politics.hu]

Hungary repays IMF loan earlier than planned

"Hungary repaid ahead of schedule yesterday (12 August) all of its outstanding debt, worth €2.15 billion euros, owed to the International Monetary Fund from a 2008 emergency loan programme, the Economy Ministry said in a statement."

"Last month the Central bank chief György Matolcsy, Orbán's former economy minister, announced he would initiate closure of the IMF's resident representative office in Budapest, saying it was "not necessary to maintain" any longer."
[link to www.euractiv.com]
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Doom on for them.
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Also interestingly enough, all these newest protests are organized by NGO's.

First of them, "Nem némulunk el" (we won't shut up), which organized the protest from November 17.

Joined Facebook on october 22 (a month ago) and already has more than 17000 followers (?!)
[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

The other NGO is called "Hundreds of thousands against internet tax". They organized the protests from October 23.

Joined Facebook on October 21 (one day before the other NGO ....?!) and has to date more than 242000 followers.

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
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Doom on for them.
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Not likely.. :)

And also not as easy to achieve as in Ukraine imo
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Hungary not investigating US corruption claims

"We continue to await the credible information from the U.S. government on the basis of which it made accusations of corruption against Hungarian citizens"
[link to news.yahoo.com]

...seems to me we will have to wait for that proof long enough, knowing about the way the US administration likes to back up its claims with evidence
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I hope this protesters will achieve nothing. This US backed and financed crowd is not to big. We don't want a hungarian Majdan. A "regim change" can the things turn from bad to worse. The USA broked his promise in 1956 soon and left us in trouble. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice.....
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LIKE A GREAT BIG OPEN PUSSY WAITING TO BE FUCKED, HUNGARY.

HUNGARY----->sideways<----AMERICA
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What do you mean exactly?
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LIKE A GREAT BIG OPEN PUSSY WAITING TO BE FUCKED, HUNGARY.

HUNGARY----->sideways<----AMERICA
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piss off troll
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LIKE A GREAT BIG OPEN PUSSY WAITING TO BE FUCKED, HUNGARY.

HUNGARY----->sideways<----AMERICA
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piss off troll
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NO, IT IS A FACT. IDIOT.

[link to carnegieendowment.org]
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NOPE, everyone knows it will be Turkey, then Iran.
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LIKE A GREAT BIG OPEN PUSSY WAITING TO BE FUCKED, HUNGARY.

HUNGARY----->sideways<----AMERICA
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65203915


piss off troll
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok


NO, IT IS A FACT. IDIOT.

[link to carnegieendowment.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65203915


LOL @ them saying this is a "threat" to "democracy"...

What democracy? The whole US/EU mafia is a freakin' corporate oligarchy, so what exactly are you talking about?!

This guy is trying to take back what these thugs took away from all of us.

Since we joined the EU, they destroyed the local economy and replaced it with greedy and ruthless multinational corporations.

Luckily enough, people are awaking and are seeing what this "democracy" is about and the dominoes are falling apart! That's what they are so afraid of. This has NOTHING to do with democracy! It has to do with the fact that our government kicked a few greedy asses, including banksters and the kind.

As far as I (and most people I know) am concerned, they can all take their freakin' corporations and banks back to where they came from. We do not want any of your consumership!! Nor any of your corporate oligarchy you call "democracy".

THESE are the facts!
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:ohlook:

More likely to be Russia than the US. UNLESS HUNGARY WANTS TO BE NATO. Then Russia will attack them after they say no.

Like Georgia and Ukraine.

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:ohlook:

More likely to be Russia than the US. UNLESS HUNGARY WANTS TO BE NATO. Then Russia will attack them after they say no.

Like Georgia and Ukraine.

cupofjoe
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dude... Hungary is a Nato member since 1999... so what are you talking about?!
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:ohlook:

More likely to be Russia than the US. UNLESS HUNGARY WANTS TO BE NATO. Then Russia will attack them after they say no.

Like Georgia and Ukraine.

cupofjoe
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dude... Hungary is a Nato member since 1999... so what are you talking about?!
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok


it's called sarcasm.

Thread: Russia accuses West of Regime change tactics

Try moving away from the Russian propaganda and toward the Hungarian. Support your country and stop listen to our and their propaganda.

By the way. I like your country. Had some good times there.
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FOREIGN MINISTER PÉTER SZIJJÁRTÓ ON OFFICIAL VISIT TO MOSCOW

"The Hungarian foreign minister also said during his first visit to Russia that it is in Hungary’s interest that practical and constructive cooperation should be rebuilt between Europe and Russia. Lavrov said that Russia understands that as a member of NATO and the EU, Hungary is fulfilling its obligations while at the same time protecting its own interests."

"(Putin) said Russia considered Budapest “one of the most important political, trade and economic partners.”"

[link to hungarytoday.hu]
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FOREIGN MINISTER PÉTER SZIJJÁRTÓ ON OFFICIAL VISIT TO MOSCOW

"The Hungarian foreign minister also said during his first visit to Russia that it is in Hungary’s interest that practical and constructive cooperation should be rebuilt between Europe and Russia. Lavrov said that Russia understands that as a member of NATO and the EU, Hungary is fulfilling its obligations while at the same time protecting its own interests."

"(Putin) said Russia considered Budapest “one of the most important political, trade and economic partners.”"

[link to hungarytoday.hu]
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok


Sanctions on Russia hurt. Hungary is sanctioning them like the rest of NATO.

Russia wants to rebuild ties? Great. Get outta the Ukraine and trading can begin again.
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:ohlook:

More likely to be Russia than the US. UNLESS HUNGARY WANTS TO BE NATO. Then Russia will attack them after they say no.

Like Georgia and Ukraine.

cupofjoe
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dude... Hungary is a Nato member since 1999... so what are you talking about?!
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok


it's called sarcasm.

Thread: Russia accuses West of Regime change tactics

Try moving away from the Russian propaganda and toward the Hungarian. Support your country and stop listen to our and their propaganda.

By the way. I like your country. Had some good times there.
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I always try to make up my own opinion by looking at both sides of the story.

The thing is, what I wrote about the US/EU and their money-making wheel is true.

I'm not saying that Russia is "good" or better in any way (most people still remember communism and 1956), but I've seen some of Putin's reactions and the way he acts/speaks and at least here, in Eastern Europe, this kind of behavior is admired. Not too much talk, intelligent, well thought sentences, serious facial expression. On the other side, the West' politicians way of talking and acting is definitely not one that is trustable - too much nonsense talk, ugly faces, funny facial expression :)

Anyhow, the main point here are the actions of the current Hungarian government and imo they are doing well. They are definitely stepping on some people's toes, but I think most Hungarians would be WAY more expressive in their actions against this oligarchy, to say the least.
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FOREIGN MINISTER PÉTER SZIJJÁRTÓ ON OFFICIAL VISIT TO MOSCOW

"The Hungarian foreign minister also said during his first visit to Russia that it is in Hungary’s interest that practical and constructive cooperation should be rebuilt between Europe and Russia. Lavrov said that Russia understands that as a member of NATO and the EU, Hungary is fulfilling its obligations while at the same time protecting its own interests."

"(Putin) said Russia considered Budapest “one of the most important political, trade and economic partners.”"

[link to hungarytoday.hu]
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok


Sanctions on Russia hurt. Hungary is sanctioning them like the rest of NATO.

Russia wants to rebuild ties? Great. Get outta the Ukraine and trading can begin again.
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We have to..... since we signed a contract. But the PM has criticized this from the beginning... and the EU "democracy" doesn't like it when someone has other opinions :) ...the irony, huh?

EU’s Russia sanctions doing more harm than good says Hungary’s PM Orban

Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orban was the latest to criticise the sanctions and call for a rethink saying: “The sanctions policy pursued by the West, that is, ourselves – a necessary consequence of which has been what the Russians are doing – causes more harm to us than to Russia. In politics, this is called shooting oneself in the foot.”

“The EU should not only compensate producers somehow, be they Polish, Slovak, Hungarian or Greek, who now have to suffer losses, but the entire sanctions policy should be reconsidered,” Orban added.

Export-driven Hungary is heavily reliant on energy imports from Russia, which is also the country’s largest trading partner outside the European Union, with exports worth 2.55 billion euros in 2013.

[link to www.euronews.com]
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FOREIGN MINISTER PÉTER SZIJJÁRTÓ ON OFFICIAL VISIT TO MOSCOW

"The Hungarian foreign minister also said during his first visit to Russia that it is in Hungary’s interest that practical and constructive cooperation should be rebuilt between Europe and Russia. Lavrov said that Russia understands that as a member of NATO and the EU, Hungary is fulfilling its obligations while at the same time protecting its own interests."

"(Putin) said Russia considered Budapest “one of the most important political, trade and economic partners.”"

[link to hungarytoday.hu]
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok


Sanctions on Russia hurt. Hungary is sanctioning them like the rest of NATO.

Russia wants to rebuild ties? Great. Get outta the Ukraine and trading can begin again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26793534


We have to..... since we signed a contract. But the PM has criticized this from the beginning... and the EU "democracy" doesn't like it when someone has other opinions :) ...the irony, huh?

EU’s Russia sanctions doing more harm than good says Hungary’s PM Orban

Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orban was the latest to criticise the sanctions and call for a rethink saying: “The sanctions policy pursued by the West, that is, ourselves – a necessary consequence of which has been what the Russians are doing – causes more harm to us than to Russia. In politics, this is called shooting oneself in the foot.”

“The EU should not only compensate producers somehow, be they Polish, Slovak, Hungarian or Greek, who now have to suffer losses, but the entire sanctions policy should be reconsidered,” Orban added.

Export-driven Hungary is heavily reliant on energy imports from Russia, which is also the country’s largest trading partner outside the European Union, with exports worth 2.55 billion euros in 2013.

[link to www.euronews.com]
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok


Agreed, but sanctions work 90% of the time. Right now its sanctions or war.

Which would you rather have?
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Interesting question:

"The refusal of Prime Minister Viktor Orban and his ruling Fidesz party to join the new US and EU Cold War against Russia, notably by agreeing to build the South Stream gas pipeline, in addition to the stinging policies adopted against the foreign owned banks and energy companies, has set off alarm bells in Western capitals. According to William Engdahl, the question which now has to be asked is: will Hungary be the next country to be the target of a US/EU sponsored regime change?"

"The head of the Hungarian Central Bank then demanded the IMF close its offices in Budapest. In addition, echoing Iceland, the State Attorney General brought charges against the country’s three previous prime ministers because of the criminal amount of debt into which they plunged the nation.'

"Next we can expect the National Endowment for Democracy and the usual US Government-backed NGO’s to find an excuse to launch mass opposition protests against Fidesz and Orban for his unforgivable crime of trying to make Hungary’s energy independent of the US-created insanity in Ukraine.'
[link to www.voltairenet.org]

And looks like whoever wrote this article may be right about US/EU sponsored protests. This new protest on November 17-18 smells very fishy and some people have mentioned that it happened "out of nowhere" and the protesters seemed to be very well prepared and backed up

"Hungary’s protesters were encouraged partly by America’s rising criticism of their government."
[link to www.economist.com]

And here is another piece of EU/US propaganda with this title:

Is Hungary The Next Ukraine? Protests Show Country Ripe For Conflict Between Russia And Europe
"While Hungary was never as close to Russia as Ukraine, an astounding 72 percent of Hungarians said in 2010 most Hungarians are worse off than they were under communist rule when they were intrinsically linked to Russia and the rest of the Eastern Bloc."

"Orban and the Hungarian parliament, of which Orban’s Fidesz party has a majority two-thirds control, passed a law earlier this month that would allow for a Russian gas pipeline that bypasses Ukraine for Hungary. The EU is starkly opposed."

[link to www.ibtimes.com]

I would like to add that here most people (most sane people that is) are not pretty fond of the EU and the US, so this "mass" pro-EU protest is in my opinion most definitely carefully set up.

Remember how it all started in Ukraine?


Also another good "reason" for the US/EU mafia to make Hungary the next taget is this:


Hungary repays EUR 2 billion of EU loan taken out during financial crisis

"Hungary still owes EUR 1.5bn on the loan, which it must pay in 2016, the ministry said, adding: “The government is committed to maintaining the fiscal balance and reducing state debt.”
[link to www.politics.hu]

Hungary repays IMF loan earlier than planned

"Hungary repaid ahead of schedule yesterday (12 August) all of its outstanding debt, worth €2.15 billion euros, owed to the International Monetary Fund from a 2008 emergency loan programme, the Economy Ministry said in a statement."

"Last month the Central bank chief György Matolcsy, Orbán's former economy minister, announced he would initiate closure of the IMF's resident representative office in Budapest, saying it was "not necessary to maintain" any longer."
[link to www.euractiv.com]
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Thread: Hungary’s Viktor Orban: Washington’s New Enemy

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FOREIGN MINISTER PÉTER SZIJJÁRTÓ ON OFFICIAL VISIT TO MOSCOW

"The Hungarian foreign minister also said during his first visit to Russia that it is in Hungary’s interest that practical and constructive cooperation should be rebuilt between Europe and Russia. Lavrov said that Russia understands that as a member of NATO and the EU, Hungary is fulfilling its obligations while at the same time protecting its own interests."

"(Putin) said Russia considered Budapest “one of the most important political, trade and economic partners.”"

[link to hungarytoday.hu]
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok


Sanctions on Russia hurt. Hungary is sanctioning them like the rest of NATO.

Russia wants to rebuild ties? Great. Get outta the Ukraine and trading can begin again.
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We have to..... since we signed a contract. But the PM has criticized this from the beginning... and the EU "democracy" doesn't like it when someone has other opinions :) ...the irony, huh?

EU’s Russia sanctions doing more harm than good says Hungary’s PM Orban

Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orban was the latest to criticise the sanctions and call for a rethink saying: “The sanctions policy pursued by the West, that is, ourselves – a necessary consequence of which has been what the Russians are doing – causes more harm to us than to Russia. In politics, this is called shooting oneself in the foot.”

“The EU should not only compensate producers somehow, be they Polish, Slovak, Hungarian or Greek, who now have to suffer losses, but the entire sanctions policy should be reconsidered,” Orban added.

Export-driven Hungary is heavily reliant on energy imports from Russia, which is also the country’s largest trading partner outside the European Union, with exports worth 2.55 billion euros in 2013.

[link to www.euronews.com]
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok


Agreed, but sanctions work 90% of the time. Right now its sanctions or war.

Which would you rather have?
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well we should start with the beginning....

...since they killed off the tatars, Crimea has been Russian with Russian majority.

Now we had a referendum where this Russian majority said "we want to belong to Russia" and Russia said "ok"

Then we had the US/EU "democracies" (democracy translation: power of the people, ie. the PEOPLE decide what they want) say "no, the people have no say in this, we have decided that Russia is doing this illegally and we will impose sanctions, because the power of the people doesn't matter, what matters is what WE (better, the oligarchs that run the show) are saying)"

Now we have a European PM saying "sanctions are not working and are doing more harm than helping"... ESPECIALLY for the countries near Russia.

Hungary for example is losing daily hundreds of thousand of dollars income because of the sanctions, but the EU doesn't care. They don't care that PEOPLE want something they do not. They don't care that their actions are doing harm to PEOPLE!! As long an action is not suitable for their goals of global slavery through consumerism, it is NOT allowed! THIS is the "democracy" you think you have.

Besides, just like our PM said, nobody wants war, but nobody wants sanctions either. The third solution, which he suggested, are peaceful negotiations!

He is looking at the country's interests, so he signed the pipeline deal with Russia and that's why he's being attacked from all sides now.
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Also interestingly enough, all these newest protests are organized by NGO's.

First of them, "Nem némulunk el" (we won't shut up), which organized the protest from November 17.

Joined Facebook on october 22 (a month ago) and already has more than 17000 followers (?!)
[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

The other NGO is called "Hundreds of thousands against internet tax". They organized the protests from October 23.

Joined Facebook on October 21 (one day before the other NGO ....?!) and has to date more than 242000 followers.

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok


Hard to imagine people are displeased with the government, huh?
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LIKE A GREAT BIG OPEN PUSSY WAITING TO BE FUCKED, HUNGARY.

HUNGARY----->sideways<----AMERICA
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piss off troll
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok


NO, IT IS A FACT. IDIOT.

[link to carnegieendowment.org]
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LOL @ them saying this is a "threat" to "democracy"...

What democracy? The whole US/EU mafia is a freakin' corporate oligarchy, so what exactly are you talking about?!

This guy is trying to take back what these thugs took away from all of us.

Since we joined the EU, they destroyed the local economy and replaced it with greedy and ruthless multinational corporations.

Luckily enough, people are awaking and are seeing what this "democracy" is about and the dominoes are falling apart! That's what they are so afraid of. This has NOTHING to do with democracy! It has to do with the fact that our government kicked a few greedy asses, including banksters and the kind.

As far as I (and most people I know) am concerned, they can all take their freakin' corporations and banks back to where they came from. We do not want any of your consumership!! Nor any of your corporate oligarchy you call "democracy".

THESE are the facts!
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Yea well the fact is that he's trying to kick out foreign corporations to get rid of the competition for his buddies...
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Also interestingly enough, all these newest protests are organized by NGO's.

First of them, "Nem némulunk el" (we won't shut up), which organized the protest from November 17.

Joined Facebook on october 22 (a month ago) and already has more than 17000 followers (?!)
[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

The other NGO is called "Hundreds of thousands against internet tax". They organized the protests from October 23.

Joined Facebook on October 21 (one day before the other NGO ....?!) and has to date more than 242000 followers.

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
 Quoting: VagyokAkiVagyok


Hard to imagine people are displeased with the government, huh?
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No.... What's hard to imagine is that all these "civil" movements' Facebook pages were created at the same time and came "out of nowhere", then miraculously gathered tens of thousands of followers within days.

Looks kinda planned to me....
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piss off troll
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NO, IT IS A FACT. IDIOT.

[link to carnegieendowment.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65203915


LOL @ them saying this is a "threat" to "democracy"...

What democracy? The whole US/EU mafia is a freakin' corporate oligarchy, so what exactly are you talking about?!

This guy is trying to take back what these thugs took away from all of us.

Since we joined the EU, they destroyed the local economy and replaced it with greedy and ruthless multinational corporations.

Luckily enough, people are awaking and are seeing what this "democracy" is about and the dominoes are falling apart! That's what they are so afraid of. This has NOTHING to do with democracy! It has to do with the fact that our government kicked a few greedy asses, including banksters and the kind.

As far as I (and most people I know) am concerned, they can all take their freakin' corporations and banks back to where they came from. We do not want any of your consumership!! Nor any of your corporate oligarchy you call "democracy".

THESE are the facts!
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Yea well the fact is that he's trying to kick out foreign corporations to get rid of the competition for his buddies...
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That's funny... Do you actually live in Hungary or are you a shareholder of Tesco, Spar and the kinds?

Trust me, most people DO NOT want these corporations in the country. They want the good old RELIABLE merchants we used to have.

You know, like EVERY SINGLE western country! They let their people live there and bring these poison-selling, greedy corporations here to suck the blood of the people and destroy the local economy.

Luckily it's all coming back slowly and more and more people refuse to buy their goods at these multis and instead go to the local shop
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Hungary not investigating US corruption claims

"We continue to await the credible information from the U.S. government on the basis of which it made accusations of corruption against Hungarian citizens"
[link to news.yahoo.com]

...seems to me we will have to wait for that proof long enough, knowing about the way the US administration likes to back up its claims with evidence
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your request is in the que, it will be responded immediatelly after the questions on Irak WMD whereabouts and MH17 flight snaps from US satelites are answered/presented...
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Yea well the fact is that he's trying to kick out foreign corporations to get rid of the competition for his buddies...
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fact is, these corporations often extort local foods producers forcing them to decrease the price of their goods under the rentability level. On the other hand they are so rude they force these producers to buy back the goods which they did not sell (e.g. baked goods like bread, rolls, etc...)as if the producers were to be blamed for their lame judgment of situation. Etc.etc. Now many of them "matured" - e.g. they built their own bakeries (Tesco, Carrefour, Billa), which means liquidation of the majority of local bakeries... etc. etc.
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Hungary not investigating US corruption claims

"We continue to await the credible information from the U.S. government on the basis of which it made accusations of corruption against Hungarian citizens"
[link to news.yahoo.com]

...seems to me we will have to wait for that proof long enough, knowing about the way the US administration likes to back up its claims with evidence
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your request is in the que, it will be responded immediatelly after the questions on Irak WMD whereabouts and MH17 flight snaps from US satelites are answered/presented...
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Lol yeah....and that means "never" :)

A bully does just what it does.... It bullies
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Yea well the fact is that he's trying to kick out foreign corporations to get rid of the competition for his buddies...
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fact is, these corporations often extort local foods producers forcing them to decrease the price of their goods under the rentability level. On the other hand they are so rude they force these producers to buy back the goods which they did not sell (e.g. baked goods like bread, rolls, etc...)as if the producers were to be blamed for their lame judgment of situation. Etc.etc. Now many of them "matured" - e.g. they built their own bakeries (Tesco, Carrefour, Billa), which means liquidation of the majority of local bakeries... etc. etc.
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Exactly! Not to mention what ingredients they are using in these bakeries.

Also these thugs like to REUSE stuff they couldn't sell, like the expired cheese they reused and repackaged and resold!!!!

And this is just one case where they have been actually caught doing it. Imagine all the stuff going on that they get away with.

The AC with Hungarian IP seems to be forgetting these things.....

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Also let's take beer for example

I like to just go to these stores and check out the shelves.

Here's what I did: went to the beer shelf and there were about 30 types of beer with different names. ALL, WITHOUT EXCEPTION were owned and produced by Heineken!

THIS is why they want to get rid of these greedy multis. They buy off EVERYTHING and make people think they buy local products when in reality, they buy Heineken products made locally. All the income naturally goes back to Heineken which in turn pays people wages of a maximum 300-400€/month...or maybe even less.





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