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Yeah it's the temperature of the north pole and they found it with WISE from light years away. I hate to break it to you but any brown dwarf in our solar system would have been detected by WISE. Also, WISE J085510.83-071442.5 is technically a sub-brown dwarf.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Sounds like you're backpedaling

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No it doesn't. Yes, WISE found a sub-brown dwarf as cold as the north pole from light years away. And it would have found anything within the 13-80 MJ mass range of a brown dwarf in our solar system.
[link to www.nasa.gov]
The remaining possibilities are considerably smaller than the 13 MJ cutoff for a brown dwarf. The chart showing the distance/size function of a cutoff only goes up to 10 MJ for goodness sake.
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Backpedaling like crazy. Shows how little dumbfuck arrogant scientists know when something that big is that close and isn't discovered until recently. Of course they will never admit how stupid and ignorant they are and will instead backpedal every time.
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Yeah it's the temperature of the north pole and they found it with WISE from light years away. I hate to break it to you but any brown dwarf in our solar system would have been detected by WISE. Also, WISE J085510.83-071442.5 is technically a sub-brown dwarf.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Sounds like you're backpedaling

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No it doesn't. Yes, WISE found a sub-brown dwarf as cold as the north pole from light years away. And it would have found anything within the 13-80 MJ mass range of a brown dwarf in our solar system.
[link to www.nasa.gov]
The remaining possibilities are considerably smaller than the 13 MJ cutoff for a brown dwarf. The chart showing the distance/size function of a cutoff only goes up to 10 MJ for goodness sake.
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Backpedaling like crazy. Shows how little dumbfuck arrogant scientists know when something that big is that close and isn't discovered until recently. Of course they will never admit how stupid and ignorant they are and will instead backpedal every time.
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Not backpedaling at all. Show where I'm "backpedaling" from ANYTHING I've said, quote me. You can't. You just offer insults.
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Sounds like you're backpedaling

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No it doesn't. Yes, WISE found a sub-brown dwarf as cold as the north pole from light years away. And it would have found anything within the 13-80 MJ mass range of a brown dwarf in our solar system.
[link to www.nasa.gov]
The remaining possibilities are considerably smaller than the 13 MJ cutoff for a brown dwarf. The chart showing the distance/size function of a cutoff only goes up to 10 MJ for goodness sake.
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Backpedaling like crazy. Shows how little dumbfuck arrogant scientists know when something that big is that close and isn't discovered until recently. Of course they will never admit how stupid and ignorant they are and will instead backpedal every time.
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Not backpedaling at all. Show where I'm "backpedaling" from ANYTHING I've said, quote me. You can't. You just offer insults.
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Admit it. If a brown dwarf can be that close and undetected by the great Astronomers of earth, then you are all idiots. Hiding a brown dwarf that's even closer is within the realm of possibility.
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No it doesn't. Yes, WISE found a sub-brown dwarf as cold as the north pole from light years away. And it would have found anything within the 13-80 MJ mass range of a brown dwarf in our solar system.
[link to www.nasa.gov]
The remaining possibilities are considerably smaller than the 13 MJ cutoff for a brown dwarf. The chart showing the distance/size function of a cutoff only goes up to 10 MJ for goodness sake.
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Backpedaling like crazy. Shows how little dumbfuck arrogant scientists know when something that big is that close and isn't discovered until recently. Of course they will never admit how stupid and ignorant they are and will instead backpedal every time.
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Not backpedaling at all. Show where I'm "backpedaling" from ANYTHING I've said, quote me. You can't. You just offer insults.
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Admit it. If a brown dwarf can be that close and undetected by the great Astronomers of earth, then you are all idiots.
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No. A sub-brown dwarf light years away does not make us all idiots. Just you.
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The government looked for it in the 70's, it is on OSTI. The OP is correct, so much so that we funded 2 searches for it.
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[link to www.osti.gov]



There is a mistake they made classifying one. It is farther away than looking at our own sun, but shows the tech is not perfect in searching. I am looking for the docs on the searches for our suns binary twin. One was done in the late 70's and one in the early 80's. I am not loving to DOEs new website for open source docs. If it gets too troubling though, I have it backed up as a PDF.
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Backpedaling like crazy. Shows how little dumbfuck arrogant scientists know when something that big is that close and isn't discovered until recently. Of course they will never admit how stupid and ignorant they are and will instead backpedal every time.
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Not backpedaling at all. Show where I'm "backpedaling" from ANYTHING I've said, quote me. You can't. You just offer insults.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Admit it. If a brown dwarf can be that close and undetected by the great Astronomers of earth, then you are all idiots.
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No. A sub-brown dwarf light years away does not make us all idiots. Just you.
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Astro, did you ever hear if thet found anything in their searches. I could never find the results but I know they looked because the way our solar systems planets orbit (you would know more on this than I would) indicate a possible very long period large mass object. I think unlike the nibiru stuff though, the thing came around a calculated every ~250,000 years or so.
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[link to www.osti.gov]



There is a mistake they made classifying one. It is farther away than looking at our own sun, but shows the tech is not perfect in searching. I am looking for the docs on the searches for our suns binary twin. One was done in the late 70's and one in the early 80's. I am not loving to DOEs new website for open source docs. If it gets too troubling though, I have it backed up as a PDF.
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That has to do with a sun-like star binary masquerading as a low mass brown-dwarf type companion by radial velocity measurements due to the highly eccentric nature of the sun-like star binary. It has nothing to do with searching for a brown dwarf in our solar system. The technique isn't even the same.
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Backpedaling like crazy. Shows how little dumbfuck arrogant scientists know when something that big is that close and isn't discovered until recently. Of course they will never admit how stupid and ignorant they are and will instead backpedal every time.
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Not backpedaling at all. Show where I'm "backpedaling" from ANYTHING I've said, quote me. You can't. You just offer insults.
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Admit it. If a brown dwarf can be that close and undetected by the great Astronomers of earth, then you are all idiots.
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No. A sub-brown dwarf light years away does not make us all idiots. Just you.
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What is this? Dr Astro engaged in an AD HOMINEM remark?!?!

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Not backpedaling at all. Show where I'm "backpedaling" from ANYTHING I've said, quote me. You can't. You just offer insults.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Admit it. If a brown dwarf can be that close and undetected by the great Astronomers of earth, then you are all idiots.
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No. A sub-brown dwarf light years away does not make us all idiots. Just you.
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What is this? Dr Astro engaged in an AD HOMINEM remark?!?!

ohno
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What is this? Anonymous coward engaged in an AD HOMINEM remark?!?!

ohno
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Admit it. If a brown dwarf can be that close and undetected by the great Astronomers of earth, then you are all idiots.
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No. A sub-brown dwarf light years away does not make us all idiots. Just you.
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What is this? Dr Astro engaged in an AD HOMINEM remark?!?!

ohno
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What is this? Anonymous coward engaged in an AD HOMINEM remark?!?!

ohno
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What is this? A science shill?!?!

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No. A sub-brown dwarf light years away does not make us all idiots. Just you.
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What is this? Dr Astro engaged in an AD HOMINEM remark?!?!

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What is this? Anonymous coward engaged in an AD HOMINEM remark?!?!

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What is this? A science shill?!?!

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Ok. I see a lot of bickering. I am not an astronomer. However, what is causing the anomy in the 2 different systems?

Seems suspicious if nothing else
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Ok. I see a lot of bickering. I am not an astronomer. However, what is causing the anomy in the 2 different systems?

Seems suspicious if nothing else
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What systems?
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Yeah it's the temperature of the north pole and they found it with WISE from light years away. I hate to break it to you but any brown dwarf in our solar system would have been detected by WISE. Also, WISE J085510.83-071442.5 is technically a sub-brown dwarf.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Vehemently deny the existence of the unknown.

Then when it's proven embrace it like your first born.

How to Science 101.
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Yeah it's the temperature of the north pole and they found it with WISE from light years away. I hate to break it to you but any brown dwarf in our solar system would have been detected by WISE. Also, WISE J085510.83-071442.5 is technically a sub-brown dwarf.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Vehemently deny the existence of the unknown.

Then when it's proven embrace it like your first born.

How to Science 101.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55383188

Vehemently lie about what Dr. Astro has denied and then bury your head in shame when he quotes himself from the past.

No, I'm not talking about cometary bombardment, that doesn't affect the orbits of the planets, I'm talking about a massive object actually coming into the inner solar system on a regular basis. There could be a large planet or brown dwarf at Oort cloud distances that occasionally disturbs the comets and sends a large number of them into the inner solar system where they impact planets and cause extinctions.
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Yeah it's the temperature of the north pole and they found it with WISE from light years away. I hate to break it to you but any brown dwarf in our solar system would have been detected by WISE. Also, WISE J085510.83-071442.5 is technically a sub-brown dwarf.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Vehemently deny the existence of the unknown.

Then when it's proven embrace it like your first born.

How to Science 101.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55383188

Vehemently lie about what Dr. Astro has denied and then bury your head in shame when he quotes himself from the past.

No, I'm not talking about cometary bombardment, that doesn't affect the orbits of the planets, I'm talking about a massive object actually coming into the inner solar system on a regular basis. There could be a large planet or brown dwarf at Oort cloud distances that occasionally disturbs the comets and sends a large number of them into the inner solar system where they impact planets and cause extinctions.
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Hey Astr, can we get a home telescope picture of this other neighboring brown dwarf to?

Or would not being able to do that prove the original post too much? The point being brown dwarfs are fucking hard to image through earth's atmosphere. So hard that it would be easy for TPTB to hide one if it's in the solar system.

With these new SUB brown dwarfs just ADMIT IT. If Nibiru was a SUB brown dwarf in the fringes of our solar system, you would have no fucking way to know it was there.
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Yeah it's the temperature of the north pole and they found it with WISE from light years away. I hate to break it to you but any brown dwarf in our solar system would have been detected by WISE. Also, WISE J085510.83-071442.5 is technically a sub-brown dwarf.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Vehemently deny the existence of the unknown.

Then when it's proven embrace it like your first born.

How to Science 101.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55383188

Vehemently lie about what Dr. Astro has denied and then bury your head in shame when he quotes himself from the past.

No, I'm not talking about cometary bombardment, that doesn't affect the orbits of the planets, I'm talking about a massive object actually coming into the inner solar system on a regular basis. There could be a large planet or brown dwarf at Oort cloud distances that occasionally disturbs the comets and sends a large number of them into the inner solar system where they impact planets and cause extinctions.
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Hey Astr, can we get a home telescope picture of this other neighboring brown dwarf to?
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It's not a brown dwarf. It's a sub brown dwarf of planetary mass. Here's what a brown dwarf looks like with a home telescope:
:teegarden1:
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With these new SUB brown dwarfs just ADMIT IT. If Nibiru was a SUB brown dwarf in the fringes of our solar system, you would have no fucking way to know it was there.
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Wrong. A sub brown dwarf, in other words a planet several times the mass of Jupiter, would reflect sunlight like any other planet. If it were anywhere near the known planets it would be equally bright and very noticeable.
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There is no fucking "science guy" proof there at all.
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With these new SUB brown dwarfs just ADMIT IT. If Nibiru was a SUB brown dwarf in the fringes of our solar system, you would have no fucking way to know it was there.
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Wrong. A sub brown dwarf, in other words a planet several times the mass of Jupiter, would reflect sunlight like any other planet. If it were anywhere near the known planets it would be equally bright and very noticeable.
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Let's see what the magnitude would be like even if it were hell and gone from the known planets. Let's say Nibiru is a sub brown dwarf, an approximately Jupiter sized planet several times Jupiter's mass in a 3600 year elliptical orbit. So it would have a semi-major axis of about 235 AU. If Nibiru comes into the inner solar system down to a perihelion equal to 1 AU, that means its eccentricity would be 0.9957 and its aphelion distance would be 469 AU. As for its reflectivity, giant planets between about 0.8 to 70 Jupiter masses, which covers the entirety of sub-brown dwarf masses all the way to upper brown dwarf masses, have albedo profiles similar to Jupiter or Uranus depending on the presence or absence of clouds in its atmosphere.
[link to arxiv.org]
We can therefore use Jupiter as a baseline to determine the approximate magnitude of "Nibiru" at aphelion, its furthest point from the sun and the dimmest it would get. We can use the old Daniel Harris equation for Jupiter's apparent magnitude and simply plug in the increased distance of 469 AU.
Apparent magnitude = -9.39+5*log(Nibiru Distance from Sun * Nibiru distance from earth)
The result is about magnitude 17.3, detectable to both amateur and professional telescopes.
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Vehemently deny the existence of the unknown.

Then when it's proven embrace it like your first born.

How to Science 101.
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Vehemently lie about what Dr. Astro has denied and then bury your head in shame when he quotes himself from the past.

No, I'm not talking about cometary bombardment, that doesn't affect the orbits of the planets, I'm talking about a massive object actually coming into the inner solar system on a regular basis. There could be a large planet or brown dwarf at Oort cloud distances that occasionally disturbs the comets and sends a large number of them into the inner solar system where they impact planets and cause extinctions.
 Quoting: Astromut

 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Hey Astr, can we get a home telescope picture of this other neighboring brown dwarf to?
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It's not a brown dwarf. It's a sub brown dwarf of planetary mass. Here's what a brown dwarf looks like with a home telescope:
:teegarden1:
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You we're being mocked so that you would post that picture and you did. rofl
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^^...Undeniable PROOF of at least three brown dwarves in our solar system.abduct
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With these new SUB brown dwarfs just ADMIT IT. If Nibiru was a SUB brown dwarf in the fringes of our solar system, you would have no fucking way to know it was there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55912305


Wrong. A sub brown dwarf, in other words a planet several times the mass of Jupiter, would reflect sunlight like any other planet. If it were anywhere near the known planets it would be equally bright and very noticeable.
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Let's see what the magnitude would be like even if it were hell and gone from the known planets. Let's say Nibiru is a sub brown dwarf, an approximately Jupiter sized planet several times Jupiter's mass in a 3600 year elliptical orbit. So it would have a semi-major axis of about 235 AU. If Nibiru comes into the inner solar system down to a perihelion equal to 1 AU, that means its eccentricity would be 0.9957 and its aphelion distance would be 469 AU. As for its reflectivity, giant planets between about 0.8 to 70 Jupiter masses, which covers the entirety of sub-brown dwarf masses all the way to upper brown dwarf masses, have albedo profiles similar to Jupiter or Uranus depending on the presence or absence of clouds in its atmosphere.
[link to arxiv.org]
We can therefore use Jupiter as a baseline to determine the approximate magnitude of "Nibiru" at aphelion, its furthest point from the sun and the dimmest it would get. We can use the old Daniel Harris equation for Jupiter's apparent magnitude and simply plug in the increased distance of 469 AU.
Apparent magnitude = -9.39+5*log(Nibiru Distance from Sun * Nibiru distance from earth)
The result is about magnitude 17.3, detectable to both amateur and professional telescopes.
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So no, it's not at all the same as a sub brown dwarf light years away. Trolls can now piss off.
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With these new SUB brown dwarfs just ADMIT IT. If Nibiru was a SUB brown dwarf in the fringes of our solar system, you would have no fucking way to know it was there.
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Wrong. A sub brown dwarf, in other words a planet several times the mass of Jupiter, would reflect sunlight like any other planet. If it were anywhere near the known planets it would be equally bright and very noticeable.
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Let's see what the magnitude would be like even if it were hell and gone from the known planets. Let's say Nibiru is a sub brown dwarf, an approximately Jupiter sized planet several times Jupiter's mass in a 3600 year elliptical orbit. So it would have a semi-major axis of about 235 AU. If Nibiru comes into the inner solar system down to a perihelion equal to 1 AU, that means its eccentricity would be 0.9957 and its aphelion distance would be 469 AU. As for its reflectivity, giant planets between about 0.8 to 70 Jupiter masses, which covers the entirety of sub-brown dwarf masses all the way to upper brown dwarf masses, have albedo profiles similar to Jupiter or Uranus depending on the presence or absence of clouds in its atmosphere.
[link to arxiv.org]
We can therefore use Jupiter as a baseline to determine the approximate magnitude of "Nibiru" at aphelion, its furthest point from the sun and the dimmest it would get. We can use the old Daniel Harris equation for Jupiter's apparent magnitude and simply plug in the increased distance of 469 AU.
Apparent magnitude = -9.39+5*log(Nibiru Distance from Sun * Nibiru distance from earth)
The result is about magnitude 17.3, detectable to both amateur and professional telescopes.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

So no, it's not at all the same as a sub brown dwarf light years away. Trolls can now piss off.
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Thread: Article!! Is this Nibiru??!!! Red dwarf Scholz's star passed near our solar system 70,000 yrs ago! early man may have seen its flares!
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02/18/2015 07:59 PM

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