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Desire for Revenge

 
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What I can't stand is watching good people bullied.

And the severity of the bullying equates to the severity of my response.
 Quoting: Seer777


It hurts me too.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


Good people need to stand up for themselves. Rooster Cogburn can't be everywhere at once.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61917558


Well said.

But he can try his best. And hopefully awaken the gunslinger in his protectorate in the process.
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Time to watch 7 samurai.

47 ronin just didnt spread the joy.
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Bullied is a term that can be misused to describe a critical response to statements that requires a challenge to defend. When making assertions that may be deemed as questionable, is it not important to make sure that the record is correct or at least clarified as to its validity?
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What I can't stand is watching good people bullied.

And the severity of the bullying equates to the severity of my response.
 Quoting: Seer777


It hurts me too.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


Good people need to stand up for themselves. Rooster Cogburn can't be everywhere at once.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61917558


True.

However, sometimes they are outplayed, outwitted, or outnumbered. Which triggers that sense of injustice.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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Bullied is a term that can be misused to describe a critical response to statements that requires a challenge to defend. When making assertions that may be deemed as questionable, is it not important to make sure that the record is correct or at least clarified as to its validity?
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Absolutely.

But people know it, when they see it.

Watching another being pounded on, whether with words or fists, is hard to ignore.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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"Good people need to stand up for themselves. Rooster Cogburn can't be everywhere at once."


Nor can dexter or is deter ity? lol

Not quite sure if Dexter can be classified as a good guy, as he is motivated by his own psychopathy! lol
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What I. Honestly have a hardtime understanding is how all you guys 9 times outta ten only time I've ever felt any of the things which you are discussing saving people from it is this little faction that has its root in it.
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What I. Honestly have a hardtime understanding is how all you guys 9 times outta ten only time I've ever felt any of the things which you are discussing saving people from it is this little faction that has its root in it.
The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer.
Justice found
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Satan
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It's not me, I am not Him
Freedom
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The Key To Troublesome Peace
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"Good people need to stand up for themselves. Rooster Cogburn can't be everywhere at once."


Nor can dexter or is deter ity? lol

Not quite sure if Dexter can be classified as a good guy, as he is motivated by his own psychopathy! lol
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He is motivated by his 'dark passenger'. Which he struggles with for the entire series.

Which reminds of the top of page 4500 on the X thread.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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What I can't stand is watching good people bullied.

And the severity of the bullying equates to the severity of my response.
 Quoting: Seer777


It hurts me too.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


Good people need to stand up for themselves. Rooster Cogburn can't be everywhere at once.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61917558


True.

However, sometimes they are outplayed, outwitted, or outnumbered. Which triggers that sense of injustice.
 Quoting: Seer777


Some like long odds. Unless highly trained, a group, is often at a loss against an individual.

Besides, throating someone usually breaks the group dynamic.

Most forget, there are no rules in crossing the rubicon, just suggestions.
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11/10/2014 03:28 PM
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"Absolutely.

But people know it, when they see it.

Watching another being pounded on, whether with words or fists, is hard to ignore."



Peoples objectivity is promoted by self interest primarily.
What they see is determined by their own preconceptions.
Sometimes a perpetrator can appear as a victim by design.
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11/10/2014 03:29 PM
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:PerfectBalance:
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Did you steal this photo from Judethz?

:sarcasm1:
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It hurts me too.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


Good people need to stand up for themselves. Rooster Cogburn can't be everywhere at once.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61917558


True.

However, sometimes they are outplayed, outwitted, or outnumbered. Which triggers that sense of injustice.
 Quoting: Seer777


Some like long odds. Unless highly trained, a group, is often at a loss against an individual.

Besides, throating someone usually breaks the group dynamic.

Most forget, there are no rules in crossing the rubicon, just suggestions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61917558



I can understand that.

But what of when it becomes obvious the fight has been lost and 'the fight' or pounding continues?

Hitting someone when they are down, is another way of looking at it.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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PerfectBalance
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Did you steal this photo from Judethz?

:sarcasm1:
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No. I uploaded it about 2 years ago, or so.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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However, sometimes they are outplayed, outwitted, or outnumbered. Which triggers that sense of injustice.


Again perception is key, when a person is abandoned by their "friends" and supporters, is outnumbered the correct verbage?
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"Absolutely.

But people know it, when they see it.

Watching another being pounded on, whether with words or fists, is hard to ignore."



Peoples objectivity is promoted by self interest primarily.
What they see is determined by their own preconceptions.
Sometimes a perpetrator can appear as a victim by design.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61704976


I believe you gave your reasoning around a week ago.

'Gullibility offends you'.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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However, sometimes they are outplayed, outwitted, or outnumbered. Which triggers that sense of injustice.


Again perception is key, when a person is abandoned by their "friends" and supporters, is outnumbered the correct verbage?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61704976


Ya perception is definitely key, is friend the right word? We all get what we are looking for in the end if we were looking for our self than the self we have found is our reward. There's probably only one person even on glp id actually consider a friend and even that is muddleed in conspiracy. In the end its just the internet and everybody is a nobody.
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It's not me, I am not Him
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However, sometimes they are outplayed, outwitted, or outnumbered. Which triggers that sense of injustice.


Again perception is key, when a person is abandoned by their "friends" and supporters, is outnumbered the correct verbage?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61704976


Whipping boy mentality.

It is said that in abusive household, the abuser will often pick one child to beat on, far more than the others.

Watching your sibling being beat, strikes fear to 'follow the rules'.

Being the one being beaten on, feeds the hero complex of 'saving' ones siblings from the same fate.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
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I believe you gave your reasoning around a week ago.

'Gullibility offends you'.


Indeed, it does, but it as no bearing are those that are indignant long after the fact and in some cases appeared to be playing both side to garner the attentions of the perceiver victor in the case.

There were few defenders during the altercation, many just watched.
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And what little support they did offer at the time was pathetic. Now the indignation rises when it is safe to do so.
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I believe you gave your reasoning around a week ago.

'Gullibility offends you'.


Indeed, it does, but it as no bearing are those that are indignant long after the fact and in some cases appeared to be playing both side to garner the attentions of the perceiver victor in the case.

There were few defenders during the altercation, many just watched.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61704976


True enough.

I witnessed a 'bandwagon jumping' I found incredibly distasteful.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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Whipping boy mentality.


Call it what you like the transcript speaks for itself.
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And what little support they did offer at the time was pathetic. Now the indignation rises when it is safe to do so.
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Safe?

When is one ever safe here?
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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Good people need to stand up for themselves. Rooster Cogburn can't be everywhere at once.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61917558


True.

However, sometimes they are outplayed, outwitted, or outnumbered. Which triggers that sense of injustice.
 Quoting: Seer777


Some like long odds. Unless highly trained, a group, is often at a loss against an individual.

Besides, throating someone usually breaks the group dynamic.

Most forget, there are no rules in crossing the rubicon, just suggestions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61917558



I can understand that.

But what of when it becomes obvious the fight has been lost and 'the fight' or pounding continues?

Hitting someone when they are down, is another way of looking at it.
 Quoting: Seer777


...


Good people need to stand up for themselves. Rooster Cogburn can't be everywhere at once.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61917558


True.

However, sometimes they are outplayed, outwitted, or outnumbered. Which triggers that sense of injustice.
 Quoting: Seer777


Some like long odds. Unless highly trained, a group, is often at a loss against an individual.

Besides, throating someone usually breaks the group dynamic.

Most forget, there are no rules in crossing the rubicon, just suggestions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61917558



I can understand that.

But what of when it becomes obvious the fight has been lost and 'the fight' or pounding continues?

Hitting someone when they are down, is another way of looking at it.
 Quoting: Seer777


Solhenitsyn, namely the gulag archipelago, would likely bring depth to the espoused ideas.

Cheers
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Whipping boy mentality.


Call it what you like the transcript speaks for itself.
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Real easy for kinds who are abused from childhood way on to current
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It's not me, I am not Him
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I believe you gave your reasoning around a week ago.

'Gullibility offends you'.


Indeed, it does, but it as no bearing are those that are indignant long after the fact and in some cases appeared to be playing both side to garner the attentions of the perceiver victor in the case.

There were few defenders during the altercation, many just watched.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61704976


True enough.

I witnessed a 'bandwagon jumping' I found incredibly distasteful.
 Quoting: Seer777


They're unconsciously bitter. They had to go through it so they believe it's necessary for everyone else to.

Like parents who don't understand their children might know things they don't.
- The Spider Kid
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"That's the best revenge of all: happiness. Nothing drives people crazier than seeing someone have a good fucking life."


~ Chuck Palahniuk, author of Fight Club and several other novels.


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I believe you gave your reasoning around a week ago.

'Gullibility offends you'.


Indeed, it does, but it as no bearing are those that are indignant long after the fact and in some cases appeared to be playing both side to garner the attentions of the perceiver victor in the case.

There were few defenders during the altercation, many just watched.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61704976


True enough.

I witnessed a 'bandwagon jumping' I found incredibly distasteful.
 Quoting: Seer777


They're unconsciously bitter. They had to go through it so they believe it's necessary for everyone else to.

Like parents who don't understand their children might know things they don't.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


I think it is more because they either saw the opportunity or believed they had something to gain from doing so.

Group Think.


When the bullied becomes the bully, has the 'Abyss' not just gazed back, but taken hold?

The cycle of abuse in a nutshell.
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca
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"That's the best revenge of all: happiness. Nothing drives people crazier than seeing someone have a good fucking life."


~ Chuck Palahniuk, author of Fight Club and several other novels.


[link to lifehacker.com]
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Incredibly true. Just try to have a good honest conversations with somebody here.
The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer.
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It's not me, I am not Him
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I believe you gave your reasoning around a week ago.

'Gullibility offends you'.


Indeed, it does, but it as no bearing are those that are indignant long after the fact and in some cases appeared to be playing both side to garner the attentions of the perceiver victor in the case.

There were few defenders during the altercation, many just watched.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61704976


True enough.

I witnessed a 'bandwagon jumping' I found incredibly distasteful.
 Quoting: Seer777


They're unconsciously bitter. They had to go through it so they believe it's necessary for everyone else to.

Like parents who don't understand their children might know things they don't.
 Quoting: Kai (VALIS)


I think it is more because they either saw the opportunity or believed they had something to gain from doing so.

Group Think.


When the bullied becomes the bully, has the 'Abyss' not just gazed back, but taken hold?

The cycle of abuse in a nutshell.
 Quoting: Seer777


Yes. But it is unconscious.

They believe it is for different reasons than those.

We all justify our actions until we accept them for what they are.
- The Spider Kid
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"That's the best revenge of all: happiness. Nothing drives people crazier than seeing someone have a good fucking life."


~ Chuck Palahniuk, author of Fight Club and several other novels.


[link to lifehacker.com]
 Quoting: stillhere


Incredibly true. Just try to have a good honest conversations with somebody here.
 Quoting: HilosPP


Hilos. You made it incredibly apparent what you sought to gain.

...

You really gonna make me spell it out for you?
Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body...
~Seneca





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