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Amnesty is a violation of the U.S. Constitution !!!

 
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Amnesty is a violation of the U.S. Constitution !!!
Amnesty is a violation of the U.S. Constitution !!!

Obama says he is going to issue a Executive Order for illegal aliens anmesty.

If He does he will have performed another treasonous act against the United States.

Description of Executive order:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"Basis in United States Constitution
There is no constitutional provision nor statute that explicitly permits executive orders. "

"An executive order of the President must find support in the Constitution, either in a clause granting the President specific power, or by a delegation of power by Congress to the President."

Where is the delegation of power by congress for Executive Orders?
Show it to the American people.
If it does exist, then it can easly be un-delegated by Congress.

What is an Ex-post facto law:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"Conversely, a form of ex post facto law commonly called an AMNESTY law may decriminalize certain acts or alleviate possible punishments (for example by replacing the death sentence with lifelong imprisonment) retroactively. Such laws are also known by the Latin term in MITIUS."

So amnesty is an ex-post facto law.

Constitution of the United States from offical archives dot gov website:
[link to www.archives.gov]

Article 1 Section 9 Clause 3 says:
"No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed."

Ex-post facto laws upset a previously established relationship and are specifically forbidden by the U.S. Constitution.

BTW, The Affordable Care Act is also ex post facto.
Therefor the ACA is null and void because it violates Article 1 Section 9 Clause 3.

Any government offical (elected or appointed) that says otherwise can be charged with an act of treason as per Article 3 Section 3 Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution and that included members of the U.S. Supreme Court.

Article 3 Section 3 Clause 1 - "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."

Any two Witnesses can do this ... you, me, grandma or anyone who witnesses the same overt act.
That is the power of "We the people ..."
Now if all the corrupt politicians would stand behind Obama, and if he then signs the E.O., then the treason charges also would automatically attach to them because they were in league with it.

New York Times - Treason Against the United States. - Published: January 25, 1861
"... all those who perform any part, however minute, or however remote from the scene of action, and who are actually leagued in the general conspiracy, are to be considered as traitors."
[link to www.nytimes.com]

Treason is attempted murder by any means possible against all Americans.

Moooooo Got Constitution ?
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Amnesty is a violation of the U.S. Constitution !!!

Obama says he is going to issue a Executive Order for illegal aliens anmesty.

If He does he will have performed another treasonous act against the United States.

Description of Executive order:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"Basis in United States Constitution
There is no constitutional provision nor statute that explicitly permits executive orders. "

"An executive order of the President must find support in the Constitution, either in a clause granting the President specific power, or by a delegation of power by Congress to the President."

Where is the delegation of power by congress for Executive Orders?
Show it to the American people.
If it does exist, then it can easly be un-delegated by Congress.

What is an Ex-post facto law:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"Conversely, a form of ex post facto law commonly called an AMNESTY law may decriminalize certain acts or alleviate possible punishments (for example by replacing the death sentence with lifelong imprisonment) retroactively. Such laws are also known by the Latin term in MITIUS."

So amnesty is an ex-post facto law.

Constitution of the United States from offical archives dot gov website:
[link to www.archives.gov]

Article 1 Section 9 Clause 3 says:
"No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed."

Ex-post facto laws upset a previously established relationship and are specifically forbidden by the U.S. Constitution.

BTW, The Affordable Care Act is also ex post facto.
Therefor the ACA is null and void because it violates Article 1 Section 9 Clause 3.

Any government offical (elected or appointed) that says otherwise can be charged with an act of treason as per Article 3 Section 3 Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution and that included members of the U.S. Supreme Court.

Article 3 Section 3 Clause 1 - "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."

Any two Witnesses can do this ... you, me, grandma or anyone who witnesses the same overt act.
That is the power of "We the people ..."
Now if all the corrupt politicians would stand behind Obama, and if he then signs the E.O., then the treason charges also would automatically attach to them because they were in league with it.

New York Times - Treason Against the United States. - Published: January 25, 1861
"... all those who perform any part, however minute, or however remote from the scene of action, and who are actually leagued in the general conspiracy, are to be considered as traitors."
[link to www.nytimes.com]

Treason is attempted murder by any means possible against all Americans.

Moooooo Got Constitution ?
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Let me tell you that 35 million central americans will be brought here and dispersed to USA and canada.

YOu do not know what is coming.


for more info check the incoming celestial object threat


The US govt is on a humanitarian task to save the people.
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Lets just see what, if anything, the GOP does about it.

My bet is...Nothing

The right want, or should I say the corporate sponsors of the right/left
want cheap labor and plenty of bodies to maintain the growth model,
by which said corporations continue to profit.

Here's hoping I'm wrong, we shall see.
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Not for anything else but isn't it true that Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Obama are all guilty of violating the Constitution based upon their amnesty programs??




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Let me tell you that 35 million central americans will be brought here and dispersed to USA and canada.

YOu do not know what is coming.


for more info check the incoming celestial object threat


The US govt is on a humanitarian task to save the people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52900690


If it's coming no matter what, than I for one, will be grateful if they ALL come from above mentioned origins.

Mid east and African immigrants suck it big time.

I'll take Christians any day over that lot.

The whole incoming object thingy not withstanding.
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When I saw this post I had been under the impression that Reagan gave amnesty to the illegal aliens by executive order. I was shocked because everyone makes it seem that way, but he didn't, it was a bill!

And, to tell you the truth, I was kinda glad to see that.

A Reagan Legacy: Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants
[link to www.npr.org]
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Let me tell you that 35 million central americans will be brought here and dispersed to USA and canada.

YOu do not know what is coming.


for more info check the incoming celestial object threat


The US govt is on a humanitarian task to save the people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52900690


If it's coming no matter what, than I for one, will be grateful if they ALL come from above mentioned origins.

Mid east and African immigrants suck it big time.

I'll take Christians any day over that lot.

The whole incoming object thingy not withstanding.
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Good point, central Americans, I've got a real soft spot in my heart for these guys (the common man)
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After amnesty hope there are plenty of jobs for everyone!!!

You really think they will control border?!


They want the taxes, watch wages drop through the floor!!!!


Lol
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Charles Krauthammer got it right. The Republican majorities can get around the executive order by not providing funding. Obama cannot execute an executive order without Congress funding it. He would love nothing better than to see the Republicans spinning their wheels on this issue for the next 2 years. The Republicans have to have some accomplishments under their belts for 2016. They can work on repealing parts of obummercare, taxes, etc.

Private individuals can and will challenge the executive order in court. The SCOTUS can rule it unconstitutional but they won't take the case from Congress.
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I hate Obama and would be fairly pleased to see him removed from office, charged with treason, found guilty, and summarily executed. Hell, I'd celebrate.

That said, executive orders are a natural authority granted to the president. It is simply the president ordering his executive branch to do this or that. that is his job; to execute the administration of the federal government. He must of course act within laws established by congress.

Lets say you work for a business as a maintenance manager. The company policy says you must maintain all equipment. That's your law. You get to decide what day of the week filters get changed as long as company policy doesn't dictate which day. That's your managerial privilege and duty.

He executes and administrates law. He cannot act outside the law or make new laws.
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After amnesty hope there are plenty of jobs for everyone!!!

You really think they will control border?!


They want the taxes, watch wages drop through the floor!!!!


Lol
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hesright

Who's *really* going to stop it? Our new clan now? Will they block amnesty? Unlikely.

I almost envision the R's trying to own it now. For votes.
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Let me tell you that 35 million central americans will be brought here and dispersed to USA and canada.

YOu do not know what is coming.


for more info check the incoming celestial object threat


The US govt is on a humanitarian task to save the people.
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Please elaborate on this.
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After amnesty hope there are plenty of jobs for everyone!!!

You really think they will control border?!


They want the taxes, watch wages drop through the floor!!!!


Lol
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hesright

Who's *really* going to stop it? Our new clan now? Will they block amnesty? Unlikely.

I almost envision the R's trying to own it now. For votes.
 Quoting: deathpossum


I smell some bad shit brewing
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Let me tell you that 35 million central americans will be brought here and dispersed to USA and canada.

YOu do not know what is coming.


for more info check the incoming celestial object threat


The US govt is on a humanitarian task to save the people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52900690


Some of the women are pretty cute but there are hard to talk to and they always wear those long skirts there men are clingy and jealous and they go out but women have to stay home.
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Slobama's existence is a violation of the Constitution.

Thank God the forces of the will of the people, if not good has taken hold. One retard has no right to do what he has. He is a monster.
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Let me tell you that 35 million central americans will be brought here and dispersed to USA and canada.

YOu do not know what is coming.


for more info check the incoming celestial object threat


The US govt is on a humanitarian task to save the people.
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Please elaborate on this.
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Angry butthurt library lashing out and pouting.
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Let me tell you that 35 million central americans will be brought here and dispersed to USA and canada.

YOu do not know what is coming.


for more info check the incoming celestial object threat


The US govt is on a humanitarian task to save the people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52900690


Please elaborate on this.
 Quoting: bkw


Please belay that.
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Lets just see what, if anything, the GOP does about it.

My bet is...Nothing

The right want, or should I say the corporate sponsors of the right/left
want cheap labor and plenty of bodies to maintain the growth model,
by which said corporations continue to profit.

Here's hoping I'm wrong, we shall see.
 Quoting: American Zombie


yawn
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"other than mexican" is now most common crossing from the south
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I am issuing an Executive Order for the Democrats to euthanize themselves.
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"other than mexican" is now most common crossing from the south
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:racist5:
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"other than mexican" is now most common crossing from the south
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they have amnesty from everything
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"other than mexican" is now most common crossing from the south
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they have amnesty from everything
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a disturbing amount are from mid east and africa
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Charles Krauthammer got it right. The Republican majorities can
get around the executive order by not providing funding.

.
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True, but this cat has bigger balls than the average RINO in Congress.


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Let me tell you that 35 million central americans will be brought here and dispersed to USA and canada.

YOu do not know what is coming.


for more info check the incoming celestial object threat


The US govt is on a humanitarian task to save the people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52900690


Well, I hadn't thought about that aspect.

I'm not saying I believe it but it's certainly plausible.

A more likely suspect is that the corporations are pressing politicians to bring them in so that it drives down wages and thus allowing American to be more attractive on the world stage since the "IN" thing seems to be GLOBALISM.... But, American's cannot compete on the world stage if our wages are too high... The only problem is that the way of life/living is too high to justify a reduction in wages.

I'm pretty sure that if the globalists had their way... we would ALL be living in complete poverty.

I'll look into the humanitarian aspect but I'm having a hard time believing any of it since our politicians don't give two shits about any other group of people UNLESS it benefits their own interests.
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"other than mexican" is now most common crossing from the south
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they have amnesty from everything
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Yup...I have no cool smilie.
[Your rights are] "wherever we're willing to draw a line and say 'you cannot come across this line or I'll kill you.' That's where our rights are. If you don't understand that, folks, then it's beyond my capability to explain it to you. They will get away with whatever you let them get away with. And until you draw the line and you're willing to die for what you believe in, they will keep taking and taking and taking and taking, until there is no more left to take. Then, it's all gone, and you're a slave."
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Let me tell you that 35 million central americans will be brought here and dispersed to USA and canada.

YOu do not know what is coming.


for more info check the incoming celestial object threat


The US govt is on a humanitarian task to save the people.
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norespect
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I gave you 5 *'s, but sorrowfully I must say that the U.S. Constitution is long dead.

But I hope that GLP'er's like you will one day resurrect it.





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