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Harry Reid's nuking of the senate filibuster is about to EXPLODE IN HIS FACE
If Dems Can Nuke Filibuster For Judges, GOP Can Nuke It For ObamaCare (And Still Save Senate)



Republicans won an impressive number of victories last night, including a larger and more conservative House majority and enough wins to give the GOP at least a 52-seat majority in the Senate. As Jeffrey Anderson and Robert Laszewski have noted, Republicans made ObamaCare a major issue in the election (the New York Times’ denials notwithstanding). Senate Republicans will fall several seats short of the 60-vote super-majority needed to overcome a Democratic filibuster of an ObamaCare-repeal bill, though.

ObamaCare opponents are therefore debating whether and how Republicans could repeal some or all of the law via the Senate’s “budget reconciliation” process, which allows certain legislation to pass the Senate with only 51 votes. Some opponents have proposed getting around these difficulties by getting rid of the filibuster entirely. I think there’s a more prudent, targeted way Republicans could put ObamaCare repeal on the president’s desk , give Democrats a taste of their own majoritarian medicine , and convince Senate Democrats of the virtues of restoring the filibuster on legislation and judicial nominations.


It goes like this. Senate Republicans would bring a reconciliation bill to the Senate floor. They would offer a one-line amendment: “The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 is hereby repealed.” Democrats would raise a point of order against the amendment, most likely under the “Byrd rule.” There is some disagreement about whether the parliamentarian would uphold that point of order, but rather than get into the details, I will assume she does. The amendment would be dead unless Republicans could muster 60 votes to overrule the parliamentarian (technically, the presiding officer, Joe Biden), which they cannot do.

However: all Senate rules are adopted and can be amended by a simple 51-vote majority. Outgoing Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and his caucus reminded the nation of this fact when they “nuked” the filibuster for most judicial nominations.


Immediately after the parliamentarian rules the ObamaCare-repeal amendment out of order, therefore, Senate Republicans would give the required notice that they plan to change the Senate rules such that no budget-reconciliation point of order shall lie against any legislative provision repealing part of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 . The next day, Senate Republicans would enact that rules change, and pass a bill repealing ObamaCare.

First, it would move the ball closer to the end zone by enabling Republicans to put an ObamaCare-repeal bill on the president’s desk. Getting a repeal bill to his desk and forcing him to veto it would further undermine the legitimacy of a law enacted and implemented against the will of the people, and demonstrate that the opposition to the law has not faded.


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HARRRY!!!
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republicans dont have a super majority...
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republicans dont have a super majority...
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They don't have to have it anymore... They would just follow Dirty Harrys lead.
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Ohhhh, this is going to be good. I can't wait. When this new Senate taking their seats.

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i love the optimism , that said.... I have serious doubts that these life long thugs will do anything but just take the country further into a nose dive...
These are the same guys that help write ObamaCare, and backed by the same ppl as the dems.
All smoke and mirrors, and in a few years it'll be time to throw them out and give the dems another chance...
its how the game is played against the sheeple.
Obama's Presidency looks almost identical to how Bush Jr's played out , same script.. only the players change, but the game remains the same.

If we can get Bonner and Mitch off there high horses and put some real ppl in there place... then we may actually stand a chance of getting stuff done, positive stuff.

Bunch of Reptilian bottom feeding garbage the whole lot of them
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The filibuster was BS from the get go and we all know it. Democrats right to the Whigs have used it. It wasn't in the Constitution was it?
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What a lot are forgetting is that you just need a super
majority, they don't all have to be Repubdicks.
You could make Democrat hipocrites go home and explain why they did not vote for the repeal.
And Harry "Tea partiers are anarchists" Reid could choke on it.
This leftist can vote his inconsequential votes, while his boss plays golf.
Good times
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What a lot are forgetting is that you just need a super
majority, they don't all have to be Repubdicks.
You could make Democrat hipocrites go home and explain why they did not vote for the repeal.
And Harry "Tea partiers are anarchists" Reid could choke on it.
This leftist can vote his inconsequential votes, while his boss plays golf.
Good times
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lol
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Wasn't the goal of Harry Reid's filibuster nuke to appoint a liberal to the Supreme Court?
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republicans dont have a super majority...
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They don't have to have it anymore... They would just follow Dirty Harrys lead.
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Dat's RIIIIIIGHT!
Har de har har!!!!!
The stinking demoncrat's arrogance comes back to
bite the worthless scum in the ass.

Grind them into the dirt.

Work with those who will fight Obama with you,
and CRUSH the rest.

Make their constituents suffer for sending
them to Congress!!!!
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The filibuster was BS from the get go and we all know it. Democrats right to the Whigs have used it. It wasn't in the Constitution was it?
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Go rent "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" with James Stewart.
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If Dems Can Nuke Filibuster For Judges, GOP Can Nuke It For ObamaCare (And Still Save Senate)



Republicans won an impressive number of victories last night, including a larger and more conservative House majority and enough wins to give the GOP at least a 52-seat majority in the Senate. As Jeffrey Anderson and Robert Laszewski have noted, Republicans made ObamaCare a major issue in the election (the New York Times’ denials notwithstanding). Senate Republicans will fall several seats short of the 60-vote super-majority needed to overcome a Democratic filibuster of an ObamaCare-repeal bill, though.

ObamaCare opponents are therefore debating whether and how Republicans could repeal some or all of the law via the Senate’s “budget reconciliation” process, which allows certain legislation to pass the Senate with only 51 votes. Some opponents have proposed getting around these difficulties by getting rid of the filibuster entirely. I think there’s a more prudent, targeted way Republicans could put ObamaCare repeal on the president’s desk , give Democrats a taste of their own majoritarian medicine , and convince Senate Democrats of the virtues of restoring the filibuster on legislation and judicial nominations.


It goes like this. Senate Republicans would bring a reconciliation bill to the Senate floor. They would offer a one-line amendment: “The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 is hereby repealed.” Democrats would raise a point of order against the amendment, most likely under the “Byrd rule.” There is some disagreement about whether the parliamentarian would uphold that point of order, but rather than get into the details, I will assume she does. The amendment would be dead unless Republicans could muster 60 votes to overrule the parliamentarian (technically, the presiding officer, Joe Biden), which they cannot do.

However: all Senate rules are adopted and can be amended by a simple 51-vote majority. Outgoing Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and his caucus reminded the nation of this fact when they “nuked” the filibuster for most judicial nominations.


Immediately after the parliamentarian rules the ObamaCare-repeal amendment out of order, therefore, Senate Republicans would give the required notice that they plan to change the Senate rules such that no budget-reconciliation point of order shall lie against any legislative provision repealing part of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 . The next day, Senate Republicans would enact that rules change, and pass a bill repealing ObamaCare.

First, it would move the ball closer to the end zone by enabling Republicans to put an ObamaCare-repeal bill on the president’s desk. Getting a repeal bill to his desk and forcing him to veto it would further undermine the legitimacy of a law enacted and implemented against the will of the people, and demonstrate that the opposition to the law has not faded.


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If I could I would make a bet with you that the repubs put the filibuster back to what it was so the dems CAN filibuster anything. Mark my words.

It's what you do when you have no plans to govern, just plans to hand more of this country over to the banksters, wall street and giant corporations.
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People in polls don't want it. They voted yesterday cause they don't want it.

Would the republicans be as tone deaf as cruz and romney and mitch who were talking around yesterday trying to get people used to the idea that it can't be repealed?

It was a rotten Christmas present. It's destroying our once superlative health care system, it's causing our doctors to stop practicing. It has to be repealed.
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Reap what you sow , this is going to be a sight to see!chuckle
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republicans dont have a super majority...
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They don't have to have it anymore... They would just follow Dirty Harrys lead.
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And since we got more than 51, we dont need Mitch McConnell the RINO's vote either. HAHAHAHHAHA
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Reap what you sow , this is going to be a sight to see!chuckle
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Hey, Putie put is running around saying he slept with that angel of yours so you guys aren't in the best spot either.
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republicans dont have a super majority...
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They don't have to have it anymore... They would just follow Dirty Harrys lead.
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Yep.
Harry Reid used the "nuclear option".
Now only a basic majority is required....51 votes.

Sorry Democraps.....you did it to yourselves....and America.
Payback is gonna' be a bitch.


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People in polls don't want it. They voted yesterday cause they don't want it.

Would the republicans be as tone deaf as cruz and romney and mitch who were talking around yesterday trying to get people used to the idea that it can't be repealed?

It was a rotten Christmas present. It's destroying our once superlative health care system, it's causing our doctors to stop practicing. It has to be repealed.
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The only entity that benefits monetarily because of the existence of ObamaCare is the parasitic insurance industry.

The insurance industry is one of the republicans' sacred cows which they worship and have built an altar to.

Republican politicians (both "parties") really like ObamaCare, because it helps their "sacred cow", the insurance industry get even MORE money for offering absolutely nothing, no product whatsoever, which is especially UNFAIR to those who pay insurance premiums for this insurance or that insurance all their lives and never ONCE make a claim. Thousands upon thousands of dollars of their hard-earned money going to feed the greedy parasite, the festering wart on the world's collective ass.

And they (insurance parasites) created their own status of being "necessary" along with their other parasite friends, the lawyers. Back when people used to iron out their differences and take care of each other if damage was done because they were responsible, everything was a LOT cheaper. It was this lie told by the parasites, founded by organized crime, the "protection" they would shake down businesses with to pay them "insurance", that engulfed the whole world and everything in it.

This is who your new majority will take care of, and ObamaCare will be inflated to be even MORE of a gigantic piece of shit that only drains everyone's (except the 1%ers) incomes.

So celebrate, and learn to love ObamaCare because the repubs will being "refining" it to give even more to the parasitic insurance scam artists and take more away from us.
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The Mandate: Republicans Were Elected to Stop Barack Obama, Not to Work with Him
"The Republican Party was elected to stop before we get to the cliff.
And that's the mandate:
to stop Obamacare;
to stop amnesty;
to stop the open borders policy of Obama and the Democrats;
to stop the Big Government assault on the free enterprise economy;
to stop national security policies that have allowed terrorist networks all over the world to
pop up and fill a vacuum created by the absence of the world's lone superpower on the world stage. That must be stopped."
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Now the republicans can hold up conformation of liberals judges.
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Here’s an idea. What Republicans should offer voters is a national security program that protects them, and individual freedom. Freedom to choose their healthcare; freedom to run their businesses in an environment where government is not looking over their shoulders at every turn and stifling their incentives to create jobs; freedom to go about their lives without fear of terrorist attacks; freedom to shape their country and its culture within secure borders; freedom from electoral fraud, and IRS intrusion designed to turn their country into a one-party state.
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The Mandate: Republicans Were Elected to Stop Barack Obama, Not to Work with Him
"The Republican Party was elected to stop before we get to the cliff.
And that's the mandate:
to stop Obamacare;
to stop amnesty;
to stop the open borders policy of Obama and the Democrats;
to stop the Big Government assault on the free enterprise economy;
to stop national security policies that have allowed terrorist networks all over the world to
pop up and fill a vacuum created by the absence of the world's lone superpower on the world stage. That must be stopped."
[link to www.rushlimbaugh.com]

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I would bet you right now that they end NONE of your list of items which you refer to as being stuff they WILL end.
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Here’s an idea. What Republicans should offer voters is a national security program that protects them, and individual freedom. Freedom to choose their healthcare; freedom to run their businesses in an environment where government is not looking over their shoulders at every turn and stifling their incentives to create jobs; freedom to go about their lives without fear of terrorist attacks; freedom to shape their country and its culture within secure borders; freedom from electoral fraud, and IRS intrusion designed to turn their country into a one-party state.
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Now you're just being silly.
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thats what he gets for trying to rob that cattle ranchers land !


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The writing is already on the wall. The republicunts will kiss and make up with the democRATS, in order to keep the peace. There will be no repercussions for the way dingy harry rode rough-shod over the top the repubs when they were the minority. All will be lovey-dovey until the socialists come to power again.

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republicans dont have a super majority...
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They don't have to have it anymore... They would just follow Dirty Harrys lead.
 Quoting: Esoterica


Yep.
Harry Reid used the "nuclear option".
Now only a basic majority is required....51 votes.

Sorry Democraps.....you did it to yourselves....and America.
Payback is gonna' be a bitch.


epiclol
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I don't see the republicants doing that. They will return to the old senate rules, to give the democraps some say in the senate. I don't think they understand how Reid and the rest of the socialist hate them, and America.
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