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Gee, it's too bad that The Pentagon doesn't ORDER the development of a cure for cancer.
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Gee, it's too bad that The Pentagon doesn't ORDER the development of a cure for cancer.
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Very true still, this virus more fatal thus far. Remember most people at least on GLP,don't believe is socialized medicine.
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Spread thru vaccine, not thru airborne.
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Thank you for your clarification, Doctor Goofball.

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CDC admits it has been lying all along about Ebola transmission; "indirect" spread now acknowledged

Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
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This doesn't sound new to me. Droplet transmission has been discussed since Day 1.


WHO, Oct 6
"Theoretically, wet and bigger droplets from a heavily infected individual, who has respiratory symptoms caused by other conditions or who vomits violently, could transmit the virus – over a short distance – to another nearby person.

This could happen when virus-laden heavy droplets are directly propelled, by coughing or sneezing (which does not mean airborne transmission) onto the mucus membranes or skin with cuts or abrasions of another person."
[link to www.who.int]

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Canadian Visa Ban Issued To Residents Of Ebola-Stricken Countries

TORONTO - Canada is following in Australia's footsteps and has closed its doors, effectively immediately, to people from the West African countries battling Ebola.

In a move that puts Canada at odds with the World Health Organization, the federal government said Friday it is suspending the issuance of visas for residents and nationals of countries with "widespread and persistent-intense transmission" of Ebola virus disease. As well, work on permanent residence applications for people from the affected countries is also being suspended.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.ca]
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I know WHAT A BUNCH OF RACISTS. How dare they tell people they cannot go over there get infected and come back and be paraded down the shopping malls and through the grocery stores?!!

How DARE the Canadian Government try to protect it's own citizens.

They should just listen to the all wise Obama and just send over 50 Air Canada planes load them with every sick person and just let them come stay at there houses. Come on Obama is like 1/4 Black or something everything he says must therefore never be questioned ever.

Anything less is just RACIST..



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Symptoms of ebola may include vomiting, diarrhea, bleeding from the eyes or rectum and an irresistible urge to travel.
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Or the 3% who show no symptoms whatsoever.
Except the last one.
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CDC admits it has been lying all along about Ebola transmission; "indirect" spread now acknowledged

Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
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This doesn't sound new to me. Droplet transmission has been discussed since Day 1.


WHO, Oct 6
"Theoretically, wet and bigger droplets from a heavily infected individual, who has respiratory symptoms caused by other conditions or who vomits violently, could transmit the virus – over a short distance – to another nearby person.

This could happen when virus-laden heavy droplets are directly propelled, by coughing or sneezing (which does not mean airborne transmission) onto the mucus membranes or skin with cuts or abrasions of another person."
[link to www.who.int]
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That's WHO, not CDC.

CDC has been denying it since August and before.
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CDC admits it has been lying all along about Ebola transmission; "indirect" spread now acknowledged

Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
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This doesn't sound new to me. Droplet transmission has been discussed since Day 1.


WHO, Oct 6
"Theoretically, wet and bigger droplets from a heavily infected individual, who has respiratory symptoms caused by other conditions or who vomits violently, could transmit the virus – over a short distance – to another nearby person.

This could happen when virus-laden heavy droplets are directly propelled, by coughing or sneezing (which does not mean airborne transmission) onto the mucus membranes or skin with cuts or abrasions of another person."
[link to www.who.int]
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That's WHO, not CDC.

CDC has been denying it since August and before.
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Seems to me like you're looking for a conspiracy where none exists

LA Times, Oct 7
"Skinner of the CDC, who cited the Peters-led study as the most extensive of Ebola's transmissibility, said that while the evidence "is really overwhelming" that people are most at risk when they touch either those who are sick or such a person's vomit, blood or diarrhea, "we can never say never" about spread through close-range coughing or sneezing.

"I'm not going to sit here and say that if a person who is highly viremic … were to sneeze or cough right in the face of somebody who wasn't protected, that we wouldn't have a transmission," Skinner said."
[link to www.latimes.com]
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Good thread DB.

What a name though "Profectus VesiculoVax", reminds me of something out of Harry Potter.
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Or it's nickname:
Infect-us Yes! Oh Cool Oh! vax.
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OP, change your title. "Aerosols" do not mean the same as "airborne"...but you probably already knew that. If it was really airborne, we'd have seen a lot more cases by now.
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ABC News, Oct 3
"THE CDC ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT EBOLA"
"Ebola spreads only by direct contact to bodily fluids. Does this include contact with sneezes, coughs, spit?
Ebola is spread through direct contact with body fluids (blood, urine, feces, saliva, sweat and other secretions) of an infected person.

If someone with Ebola coughs blood or vomits can those droplets infect those unprotected in a close range?
Yes. Droplet spread may be possible if a person is standing very close."
[link to abc7news.com]
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Good thread DB.

What a name though "Profectus VesiculoVax", reminds me of something out of Harry Potter.
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Or it's nickname:
Infect-us Yes! Oh Cool Oh! vax.
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Or Infectus Yes-it-coulda vax
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Calling droplet transmission "airborne" is no different from throwing a pile of infected vomit and calling THAT airborne.
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Another great thread! 5* and some green for you.
It is what it is.....
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It is a well known fact that Reston Ebola virus is airborne.

Reston Ebola virus has nearly the same physical (diameter, length, geometry, etc)/chemical properties as all other Ebola virus. They only differ slightly in some genes. The difference is no obvious that the difference between a white cat and a black cat.

A white cat can catch rats.
It is ridiculous to say a black cat can not catch rats.

So far there is zero evidence to say the current Ebola virus is not airborne. On the contrary, there is plenty of facts and experiments pointing it is airborne.

TPTB announced Reston Ebola is airborne, simply because its low pathogen to human. CDC hides the fact all other Ebola virus are airborne, simply does not want to panic the sheeple.

Actually, airborne does not mean it will spread easily. There are so many airborne pathogens including tuberculosis, are they infecting all of us? No!

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Calling droplet transmission "airborne" is no different from throwing a pile of infected vomit and calling THAT airborne.
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We catch the cold and flu touching things that infected people touched all the time. Potatoes,potatos......Yes, his title is wrong, but both scenarios are pretty bad if true.

I don't want the infectus Yesicoulda vax, but I think it's coming soon anyway.
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Symptoms of ebola may include vomiting, diarrhea, bleeding from the eyes or rectum and an irresistible urge to travel.
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Symptoms of ebola may include vomiting, diarrhea, bleeding from the eyes or rectum and an irresistible urge to travel.
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In July 2014, Profectus BioSciences and the GNL were awarded a 3 year $8.5M grant from the DOD/JVAP to support development of a lyophilized trivalent VesiculoVax™-vectored vaccine to protect against all major strains of Ebola and Marburg viruses delivered as aerosols.

The lyophilized trivalent vaccine is being tested in both pre-exposure and post-exposure studies to confirm protection of non-human primates from aerosol exposure to Ebola and Marburg viruses.

[link to www.prnewswire.com]
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It says the vaccine will be aerosol - its not an admission the Ebola is aerosolized... At least thats how I'm understanding it.
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For those who aren't aware.
Vaccines are being grown in plants... (Corn, Tobacco, Lettuce, etc using GMO and somehow "non-GMO")

Wikipedia - PLANT EXPRESSED VACCINE
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
*SNIP (50% rule*
"Plant expressed vaccine or project GreenVax[1] In 2000, a patented entitled Vaccines expressed in plants U.S. Patent 6,034,298 was issued. In 2005 DARPA’s Accelerated Manufacture of Pharmaceuticals (AMP) program was created In response to emerging and novel biologic threats.[2] In 2009 DARPA offered a government contract for a Non-GMO plant-based systems expressing recombinant proteins, due to The 2009 H1N1 swine flu pandemic that highlighted the national need for rapid and agile vaccine manufacturing capabilities.[3] The Texas A&M University and a Texas company have been awarded a $40 million U.S. Department of Defense grant to develop a plant expressed vaccine made from tobacco, egg-based vaccines typically take at least six months to develop once a virus is isolated, the new process will take four to six weeks.,[

BBC - EU funding for GM plant vaccines - 2005
[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

Sciencefriday - Tobacco plants grow cancer vaccines - 2008
[link to www.sciencefriday.com]

BBC - Tobacco plants used for HIV vaccine - 2014
[link to www.bbc.com]

Mercola - Experimental GMO Drug-Making Crops Grown with Little Oversight - 2014
[link to articles.mercola.com]

BBC - Episode 13: Medical D&D - 2014
[link to www.bbc.com]

You know, just FYI
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For those who aren't aware.
Vaccines are being grown in plants... (Corn, Tobacco, Lettuce, etc using GMO and somehow "non-GMO")

Wikipedia - PLANT EXPRESSED VACCINE
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
*SNIP (50% rule*
"Plant expressed vaccine or project GreenVax[1] In 2000, a patented entitled Vaccines expressed in plants U.S. Patent 6,034,298 was issued. In 2005 DARPA’s Accelerated Manufacture of Pharmaceuticals (AMP) program was created In response to emerging and novel biologic threats.[2] In 2009 DARPA offered a government contract for a Non-GMO plant-based systems expressing recombinant proteins, due to The 2009 H1N1 swine flu pandemic that highlighted the national need for rapid and agile vaccine manufacturing capabilities.[3] The Texas A&M University and a Texas company have been awarded a $40 million U.S. Department of Defense grant to develop a plant expressed vaccine made from tobacco, egg-based vaccines typically take at least six months to develop once a virus is isolated, the new process will take four to six weeks.,[

BBC - EU funding for GM plant vaccines - 2005
[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

Sciencefriday - Tobacco plants grow cancer vaccines - 2008
[link to www.sciencefriday.com]

BBC - Tobacco plants used for HIV vaccine - 2014
[link to www.bbc.com]

Mercola - Experimental GMO Drug-Making Crops Grown with Little Oversight - 2014
[link to articles.mercola.com]

BBC - Episode 13: Medical D&D - 2014
[link to www.bbc.com]

You know, just FYI
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62558416


Oops, forgot something..
From Wiki - "If this works, we'll have a billion-dose-per-month vaccine facility in Texas, which would be by far the largest and most capable center in the world."

I am aware that most of you know about vaccines being grown/incubated/fostered in plants...
That quote however does not leave me picturing a billion of vials of vaccine leaving this facility per month! Logistically that makes no sense unless their talking micro doses (not complete single doses or their completed product takes the form of head of lettuce or ear of corn (aka medicating the food supply). Dios mio mayne.
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They have been developing this for years and all of the other things are a lie too. !

Thread: They've had an effective Ebola vaccine since 2009, known it is airborne since 2012 and have done blood transf's since 1995
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Symptoms of ebola may include vomiting, diarrhea, bleeding from the eyes or rectum and an irresistible urge to travel.
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^^^apparently so
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seriously, why would they have felt the need for lying (if it is true)?
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seriously, why would they have felt the need for lying (if it is true)?
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M I D T E R M S ! !

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an interesting PDF I came across...

During Ebola and Marburg outbreaks, the systematic use of the following measures should be avoided, as they have proven ineffective, expensive, and counterproductive:

Restrictions on the freedom of movement of persons and goods between countries or different regions of a country.

The setting up of sanitary barriers around homes or at the border. Such measures divert resources and hamper the development of a spirit of cooperation between institutions and countries.

Recourse to these coercive measures should only be taken after the health authorities have undertaken an in-depth evaluation of the situation and of the risk/benefit ratio of each measure (proportionality of measures). The fundamental rights of persons warrant particular attention

It is obvious where their concerns are...MONEY...

[link to www.who.int]

PDF^^^ from May 2014...Ebola and Marburg virus disease epidemics: preparedness, alert, control, and evaluation

ETA ...Patients (or their families, if they are unable to do so) must give their express consent to hospitalization. If the patient refuses, home care must be arranged in order to reduce the risk of disease transmission in the home and should include a provision of protective equipment. Home care must be an exception, as it does not offer the same degree of safety and quality of care as a hospital.

The subcommittee for clinical case management must provide the patient with a medical certificate upon release. The certificate must state that the patient poses no risk to his/her family or neighbours. Male patients must be informed that their sperm may still be contagious for a period of three months and they should only have protected sexual relations during this period. The medical team must provide a sufficient supply of condoms. This warning must be stated on the medical certificate issued on release.

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FEMA conducts pandemic training in NY, NJ

[link to www.wnd.com]
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Have said from day 1 it was "aerosolized." There is a medical definition of "airborne" and "aerosolized." Aerosolized needs vapor or moisture for the molecule to attach too, ie your breathe.

Airborne does not mean what 99.5% of the population thinks it means.


Exercise documents included:
Thread: FEMA conducts pandemic training in NY, NJ (official PDF of exercises included)


Several links and documents:
Thread: TeamReaper's Update 10/24/14 - Ebola - National Security - FEMA ESF #8 will be enacted - pg 2
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Symptoms of ebola may include vomiting, diarrhea, bleeding from the eyes or rectum and an irresistible urge to travel.
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