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Why Protective Gear Isn’t Stopping Ebola

 
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Why Protective Gear Isn’t Stopping Ebola
Even our best hazmat suit manufacturers can't guarantee that they can stop protect you from Ebola. Here's why.

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Saying Ebola patients only infect two others is complete horseshit!

Let's think about it.....one person has Ebola and sells weed.

Or works in a service industry like pharmacy or fast food.


Statistic in Africa will not adhere to outbreak in USA. Cultures are FAR too different.
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Exhibit A, family living of subsistence farming in Liberia, children may or may not go to school, no running water. Maybe a hundred people in the vicinity

Exhibit B, "nurse" living with several hundred people in aprtment complex, uses public transport, goes to public places like discos and restaurants...do i have to continue.
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Example:

N95 mask is good to 3 microns or greater.

Ebola virus is .08 microns.
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They should have astronaut suits, not that crap stuff in the video.
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Re: Why Protective Gear Isn’t Stopping Ebola
Example:

N95 mask is good to 3 microns or greater.

Ebola virus is .08 microns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61169089


Yeah I told you those masks suck. Get a proper gasmask instead.
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They should have astronaut suits, not that crap stuff in the video.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


What should the person helping them take off the astronaut suits wear?
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Ebola is going to be embedded in a much larger substrate.
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Ebola is going to be embedded in a much larger substrate.
 Quoting: Fafhrd

Simple fact is they have more people to kill in the USA than in some African hovel.
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They should have astronaut suits, not that crap stuff in the video.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


What should the person helping them take off the astronaut suits wear?
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At least the same level as those being deconned, if not better.
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They should have astronaut suits, not that crap stuff in the video.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


What should the person helping them take off the astronaut suits wear?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64536589


At least the same level as those being deconned, if not better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27105411


And what do the people who help the people who helped the people take off the astronaut suits wear?
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The reason is...EBOLA IS A HOAX PSYOP.
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Saying Ebola patients only infect two others is complete horseshit!

Let's think about it.....one person has Ebola and sells weed.

Or works in a service industry like pharmacy or fast food.


Statistic in Africa will not adhere to outbreak in USA. Cultures are FAR too different.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24146935


Roi is based on an average.

While true one person may work fast food and infect 4, others will be in a position to NOT spread the pathogen thus infect no one. Out of two patients, one infecting 4, and one infecting 0 the ROI is 2.

This is why the ROI has historically ranged from 1.4 to 3 over the weeks (and why it changes from report date to report date) because the number of people currently infected are infecting others at varying rates depending on life style, treatment, etc.
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This the part where they pry your guns from your cold dead hands, one way or the other.... they want your guns.
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They should have astronaut suits, not that crap stuff in the video.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


^^^This.
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None of this stuff matters as long we're letting in West Africans by the hundreds and thousands...

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...AND...it isn't just the protective gear for
hospitals and emergency responders that is
in question.

Think about the cleaning needed behind someone who
is ebola-symptomatic. I'm referring to the insanity
surrounding the cruise ship "Carnival Magic"
for one example....but it can be an issue with
the apartment cleaners in Dallas, Tx...the crew
that was contracted to clean Dr. Spenser's place
this week in New York City (NO protective gear
at all and not even rubber gloves!!!) This bug can
live on surfaces for 5 days minimum...and at 40 F.
up to 50 days!!!

Quote from the thread:
Check out the "cleaners" who were to "sanitize" the
cruise ship Carnival Magic when the Dallas, TX
lab supervisor (thought to be showing symptom was
onboard!).
Does this look like they are going to insure that
the passengers coming onboard after they docked
in Galveston, TX are safe? Unbelievable lack of
guidelines for handling this bug!
(Picture was taken by a "hidden camera" on
Carnival Magic cruise ship during the "ebola cruise"
and sent to a magazine specializing in
law suits for cruise ship companies!
lol!)


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Thread: Ebola "Bucket-A-Bleach" and the "Carnival Magic" Cruise Ship Odyssey.

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Thanks for the article.
Lakeland got high marks, but apparently
no one makes a suit that is perfect.
Then, it has to be removed correctly.
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They should have astronaut suits, not that crap stuff in the video.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


What should the person helping them take off the astronaut suits wear?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64536589


At least the same level as those being deconned, if not better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27105411


And what do the people who help the people who helped the people take off the astronaut suits wear?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64536589


The same suit and then full wash down as per CBRN
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

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No no no... Obama says you can only get it by eating infected feces...
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I do wonder how long ebola can live in sewerage, and if it can infect rats and other pests.
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No no no... Obama says you can only get it by eating infected feces...
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I would like to see him prove it.
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What is Ebola?

























Oh wait, it's a distraction to get you all scared and preoccupied with some bogus shit.


Hundreds of thousands of people die every year of whatever.. nobody gives a fuck....

Yeah right, Ebola......
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Well for a start they are using BSL-2 PPE and not BSL-4 PPE.

And N95 masks WTF they useless.
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Here is a better look at what is needed. This info has been available for some time. The Army has been studying ebola for 20 years, and they know the virus very well.

Thread: Yet another Smoking gun: What the US army (USAMARIID) recommends when treating Ebola.
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Example:

N95 mask is good to 3 microns or greater.

Ebola virus is .08 microns.
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Yes, at that size micron it's best to go full SCBA.
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>>>As Texas health workers prepare two new biocontainment units to help treat any future Ebola patients the state might have, they're are using one piece of training equipment from a neighboring state that may surprise you: Tabasco sauce.

At the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center, where one of the units is being established, the staff has been practicing treating fake patients who have been sprayed at random with the peppery sauce as a stand-in for Ebola virus-laden fluids. Doctors and nurses practice dressing and undressing in their protective gear to avoid contamination, but if they feel the tingle of Tabasco on their skin, they know they've been contaminated.<<<
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I've been busy harvesting lots of peppers from my garden and I can tell you 100% that a N-95 mask and a pair of Latex gloves are WORTHLESS when it comes to protection from cayenne pepper dust. (Yes the mask was fitted correctly, NO the gloves were not taped to my shirt)

So If the mask and gloves did not protect me from peppers, I don't have much faith in a mask and gloves protecting me from Ebola either.

Full SCUBA gear is probably the only way to go! lol
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Are we all gonna die from Ebola or what?
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worse case sceanrio they death rate is 50 percent

its better now

so now, only 50 percent will die

most likely people on boards like this tho becausae they are wreakly with bad immune systems and don;lt go out in they sun

so for glp it probly still 99 percent
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All we can do is minimize our exposure and exposure risk.

I still live a normal life but for how long I am on the fence about that.

Many of us have gotten N100 and more but few wear them, however for now I do not leave my home with out a MARF it is a MAsk in the form of a scaRF.

Again only way to avoid it 100% is to live in a bubble. Also if people would cough and sneeze into a MARF instead of their sleeve or worse open air it would reduce the spread of many illnesses.

As for the moment we are more likely (in the USA) to catch the flu, as for me and most of us all we can do is improve our chances not to catch something.

The nice thing about the MARF it is fashionable too cold climate is obvious to help keep us warm and warm climate even in the air-conditioning it is nice to have a scarf.

The MARF also produces negative ions (the good ions) which promote blood circulation so although the MARF can keep you warm it also is comfortable the wear in any climate.

I actually wrap it around my waist if I get to warm and it helps with lower back pain too!

It is black because carbon is melted into the fibers as is silver, you can even bleach it and it will not fade. I wash mine everyday.

How to use it someone coughs or sneezes cover up and walk away, oh first I say God Bless. They are available on Amazon and more info at marfs.com

All the best to everyone!

hf
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Level 4 virus requires level 4 biocontainment facility.

There are 4 hospitals with about a dozen beds total in the U.S.





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