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UPDATE: Ebola Question - What blood type are the people contracting the virus & what blood type are the ones getting over it?

 
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For some proof - reported blood type of Dr. Kent Brantly (read down into the article, it gives his blood type): [link to abcnews.go.com]

Also, a very important article to read: [link to addiandcassi.com]
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Re: UPDATE: Ebola Question - What blood type are the people contracting the virus & what blood type are the ones getting over it?
For some proof - reported blood type of Dr. Kent Brantly (read down into the article, it gives his blood type): [link to abcnews.go.com]

Also, a very important article to read: [link to addiandcassi.com]
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Thank you!

Hey my hypothesis was right. How about that.
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Re: UPDATE: Ebola Question - What blood type are the people contracting the virus & what blood type are the ones getting over it?
Should have added more to my 1st post. The 2nd link I gave is about children who have a non-functional cholesterol gene, Niemann Pick Type C or NPC1. Because this gene is non-functional, these children's cells are resistant to Ebola.
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From my research on this, it's not the blood type but the blood proteins. Several years ago I was a participant in a scientific blood study at UC Davis, because of a rare allergy I had. Many people with the same blood type would have no reaction.

• O-positive: 38 percent
• O-negative: 7 percent
• A-positive: 34 percent
• A-negative: 6 percent
• B-positive: 9 percent
• B-negative: 2 percent
• AB-positive: 3 percent
• AB-negative: 1 percent

Blood proteins

Plasma proteins, also termed serum proteins or blood proteins, are proteins present in blood plasma. They serve many different functions, including transport of lipids, hormones, vitamins and metals in the circulatory system and the regulation of acellular activity and functioning and in the immune system. Other blood proteins act as enzymes, complement components, protease inhibitors or kinin precursors. Contrary to popular belief, hemoglobin is not a blood protein, as it is carried within red blood cells, rather than in the blood serum.

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Re: UPDATE: Ebola Question - What blood type are the people contracting the virus & what blood type are the ones getting over it?
For some proof - reported blood type of Dr. Kent Brantly (read down into the article, it gives his blood type): [link to abcnews.go.com]

Also, a very important article to read: [link to addiandcassi.com]
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Thank you!

Hey my hypothesis was right. How about that.
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You are very welcome.
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Acidity level of the person may also have something to do with prevention for viruses.

just a thought.
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I dont think it has anything to do with blood type, It's more than likely an Obama kill list virus. If the IRS and the CIA can be used to target political enemies, what can they use the CDC for? Who knows for sure?
Could all be just smoke and mirrors to keep us from seeing what the other hand is doing.
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Do we know for sure that the doctor was A+ or Duncan was B+?

I remember making this hypothesis based on what it seemed like, but was this info ever actually released?
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yes, there was a thread about this and it was pinned few days ago.

Accordingly there was a statement from officials somewhere that Duncan couldn't get plasma from the doctor since he was B+ and the Doctor A+
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So I wonder whether it is only a particular blood type dying from Ebola and others can build an immunity?
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I do not believe blood type matters. The virus uses NPC1, the cholesterol transport protein to enter into the cell and replicate. Every human being has this protein although there are mutant variations that Ebola cannot utilize. These people are theoretically immune to the disease. There is no way without testing someone for the mutation to know whether they have the mutated NPC1 gene or not. By the way, the NPC1 gene makes the NPC1 protein.
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Re: UPDATE: Ebola Question - What blood type are the people contracting the virus & what blood type are the ones getting over it?
This is an important question. I'll bet it won't be easy to answer. This got me thinking about what factors determine who survives ebola. A person who is malnourished is more susceptible to disease. If your diet lacks minerals and other nutrients your immune system will not be robust. The other thing I wonder about is if the viral load one receives is important. Are there degrees of infection?
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I read the Oxford Journal article Lucy linked which has basic information about how ebola specifically damages the body. Quoting from that article,"EBOV pathogenesis is characterized by the dysregulation of the normal host immune responses. Particularly notable events are the destruction of lymphocytes [13], the increase of circulating proinflammatory cytokines [14, 15], and coagulation disorders [16]." Then I looked up "proinflammatory cytokines," and found an article from 1999 in JAMA psych called "Stress-Related Changes in Proinflammatory Cytokine Production in Wounds," which states that psychological stress significantly increases the production of circulating proinflammatory cytokines (we need some of these to help protect against infection and prepare injured tissue for repair) which exponentially slow the healing of wounds! Hmm. Then it goes on to state there is a "formula" which stops this process, and it's called "RU40555." An aside, one of the authors of this article is named "Malarkey," I kid you not. So there are two known treatments for part of ebola's damage the CDC hasn't told us about and one is this formula which blocks the dysregulation of the glucocorticoids that delay healing, and the other is simple stress-reduction, chemically or otherwise. So from this information I think it is indeed possible that certain types of blood must be genetically immune to at least parts of this virus, perhaps this one, the one that delays healing, and their blood is used to create antibodies in the infected. Rh negative blood immune? Why not? Stranger things are happening. By the way, did everyone know that Liberia was founded by American slaves who returned to Africa?
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Shouldnt it be targetting the blood type or genes of people in Africa that they dont want? It's not blacks they dont want, it's chinese: apparently the chinese are trying to invest in africa and American interests dont want that. That's why they sent those troops, to shoot the Ebola and guard against other powers trying to come to the continent?
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Bump!!!
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Re: UPDATE: Ebola Question - What blood type are the people contracting the virus & what blood type are the ones getting over it?
Blood proteins

Plasma proteins, also termed serum proteins or blood proteins, are proteins present in blood plasma. They serve many different functions, including transport of lipids, hormones, vitamins and metals in the circulatory system and the regulation of acellular activity and functioning and in the immune system. Other blood proteins act as enzymes, complement components, protease inhibitors or kinin precursors. Contrary to popular belief, hemoglobin is not a blood protein, as it is carried within red blood cells, rather than in the blood serum.

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Well, if an O RBC was to be defended this plasma is where the antibodies would be coming from. A person who is type O would have antibodies to both A and B, hence double.

The virus is invading RBC's. I am just questioning if it is doing any of this via trickery. Aka signaling to its base that it is landing, but is a friend and not an enemy. To an O cell, there are no friends.

I mean technically the A or B antigens are already there and would not ordinarily be landing. But what does it know, it is just a lowly cell.

But this talk also brings me to a different point. What if for reasons unknown as of yet, certain immune systems of some individuals are attacking the virus better than others? Then the disease doesn't get a good grip. Perhaps folks with say an over active immune system from say an autoimmune disorder?
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Blood proteins

Plasma proteins, also termed serum proteins or blood proteins, are proteins present in blood plasma. They serve many different functions, including transport of lipids, hormones, vitamins and metals in the circulatory system and the regulation of acellular activity and functioning and in the immune system. Other blood proteins act as enzymes, complement components, protease inhibitors or kinin precursors. Contrary to popular belief, hemoglobin is not a blood protein, as it is carried within red blood cells, rather than in the blood serum.

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Well, if an O RBC was to be defended this plasma is where the antibodies would be coming from. A person who is type O would have antibodies to both A and B, hence double.

The virus is invading RBC's. I am just questioning if it is doing any of this via trickery. Aka signaling to its base that it is landing, but is a friend and not an enemy. To an O cell, there are no friends.

I mean technically the A or B antigens are already there and would not ordinarily be landing. But what does it know, it is just a lowly cell.

But this talk also brings me to a different point. What if for reasons unknown as of yet, certain immune systems of some individuals are attacking the virus better than others? Then the disease doesn't get a good grip. Perhaps folks with say an over active immune system from say an autoimmune disorder?
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I gotz me an autoimmune disorder! I sure hope youre right!
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So using my above rationale, would a o type patient with an autoimmune disorder be less likely to die? See what I am getting at?

You see all viruses use trickery to get into cells. But for some folks their radar setting is much lower. Thus the virus doesn't enter their cells so readily.

What they need to be examining is who has been around symptomatic Ebola patients and didn't develop symptoms. Right now I can already see many possible subjects in the US, the Duncan family is a start. That is if they are still ok at say day 40.
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I am a very rare type, AB-.
Wondering if that would help or hurt me in any way. :/
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Ebols kent is A+. I read that in a news article last night.
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If you wanted to test a biological weapon, where would you test it? In deepest darkest Africa of course. The first time it was tested was back in the 70's in the most central country of Africa - DRCongo.
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I would think that those with O blood would have the highest mortality rate if the virus was designed to kill blacks and attack based on blood type since blacks have a high % of Os.
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The ones contracting Ebola have O and B bloood types, the ones dying from it are B.
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B is actually more prevalent in Asians.
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Dr. Kent Brantley recovered. He is A+.
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mine as well.
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Type A may survive, due to sharing antibodies, but LOOK how many people with type A blood have already caught the disease. For whatever reason, it seems type A seems the most vulnerable to this disease.
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Re: UPDATE: Ebola Question - What blood type are the people contracting the virus & what blood type are the ones getting over it?
Nieman Pick Protein - It's what the virus uses as a sort of raft in our bodies to get into our cells. So you don't want to have as many of these proteins.

Here is where they talk about it:

[link to www.nytimes.com]

Here is where they talk about the Geographic distribution of the mutation. (remember, "mutation" means you don't make as many of these proteins), which in the case of Ebola...is good.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

Pages 9 and 12 have the most information.

Snip:

"The hypothesis that it probably originates from Western Europe is strengthened by the observation that the mutation occurs in countries with a strong historical European immigration. We have indications that this applies to Quebec and Australia and, definitely, to the United States."
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I don't believe that Brantly had ebola.

I think he was suffering from heat exhaustion, malnutrition, parasites, and probably a little hysteria.

Frail redheads should not be wearing spacesuits in 110 degree weather with 90% humidity.

And the food and water he was forced to eat and drink would have been evil to his system.
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What about those that are HIV+ ?

Apparently HIV antiviral meds kill off the virus.
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B is actually more prevalent in Asians.
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It is also very high in Most Native Americans...I am RH B+
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Re: UPDATE: Ebola Question - What blood type are the people contracting the virus & what blood type are the ones getting over it?
Nieman Pick Protein - It's what the virus uses as a sort of raft in our bodies to get into our cells. So you don't want to have as many of these proteins.

Here is where they talk about it:

[link to www.nytimes.com]

Here is where they talk about the Geographic distribution of the mutation. (remember, "mutation" means you don't make as many of these proteins), which in the case of Ebola...is good.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

Pages 9 and 12 have the most information.

Snip:

"The hypothesis that it probably originates from Western Europe is strengthened by the observation that the mutation occurs in countries with a strong historical European immigration. We have indications that this applies to Quebec and Australia and, definitely, to the United States."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24053524


I posted my thoughts on this days ago as my own research proves that the rh negative condition is a mutation that evolved as protection against ebola-infected bats in Northern Spain.

This occurred 35,000 years ago, and the rh negative condition is still very high amongst the Basque.

Being am rh positive white person is protection though as well, because most whites are rh negative-recessive.
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Re: UPDATE: Ebola Question - What blood type are the people contracting the virus & what blood type are the ones getting over it?
Also are they rh - or rh + ? O- blood cannot be cloned. That one blood type can donate blood to anyone. It's a mutation that cannot be explained. There's alot of crazy theories about O- blood. Go look for yourself.abduct
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Re: UPDATE: Ebola Question - What blood type are the people contracting the virus & what blood type are the ones getting over it?
So using my above rationale, would a o type patient with an autoimmune disorder be less likely to die? See what I am getting at?

You see all viruses use trickery to get into cells. But for some folks their radar setting is much lower. Thus the virus doesn't enter their cells so readily.

What they need to be examining is who has been around symptomatic Ebola patients and didn't develop symptoms. Right now I can already see many possible subjects in the US, the Duncan family is a start. That is if they are still ok at say day 40.
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The autoimmune theory is interesting, however, it would make your radar more heightened instead of less. It thinks many things are invaders when they actually aren't so it is always in hyperdrive. This is what causes the inflammation from an autoimmune disease. On the other hand, autoimmune disease does increase the inflammatory cytokine activity in general, so maybe I"m toast.

I have an autoimmune disease and also chronic Lyme with many coinfections which give me antibodies to things like Rocky Mt Spotted Fever, Mycoplasma, etc. I feel like shit most of the time, but I can tell you that I rarely ever get sick. Haven't had a flu shot in over 18 years and have not had the flu. Maybe every 3 to 4 years I might get a really bad cold.
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Re: UPDATE: Ebola Question - What blood type are the people contracting the virus & what blood type are the ones getting over it?
Dr. Kent Brantley recovered. He is A+.
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Link? Cuz I searched for that info the other day for hours and could not find it





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