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Ride the wings of the mind  User ID: 50018194  United States10/13/2014 01:00 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is fundamental religious belief, THE major contributing factor to 'persecution complex' comorbid with debilitating mental illnesses? And delusion. And/or is said persecution complex the contributing factor for religion creation in the first place? Does it feed itself? Persecutory delusions are a delusional condition in which the affected person believes they are being persecuted. Specifically, they have been defined as containing two central elements: The individual thinks that harm is occurring, or is going to occur. The individual thinks that the perceived persecutor has the intention to cause harm. According to the DSM-IV-TR, persecutory delusions are the most common form of delusions in schizophrenia, where the person believes "he or she is being tormented, followed, tricked, spied on, or ridiculed." In the DSM-IV-TR, persecutory delusions are the main feature of the persecutory type of delusional disorder. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Having grown up with strongly held religious 'belief' I am no a stranger to religion or scripture. So do not assume I am unlearned in this area, before you comment. Also note, I believe 'religion' is what grew out of the teachings. Not the teachings themselves. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]  Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
| Seer777
(OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 50018194 United States10/13/2014 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How pervasive is 'persecution complex' within the Major Religions? 'Us and them' mentality seems to have been bred into the foundation, since the very beginning. When were the first 'fences' built? And for what purpose? Animal husbandry? [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
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(OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 50018194 United States10/13/2014 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neolithic Revolution The Neolithic Revolution or Neolithic Demographic Transition, sometimes called the Agricultural Revolution, was the wide-scale transition of many human cultures from a lifestyle of hunting and gathering to one of agriculture and settlement, allowing the ability to support an increasingly large population. Archaeological data indicates that the domestication of various types of plants and animals evolved in separate locations worldwide, starting in the geological epoch of the Holocene around 12,000 years ago. It was the world's first historically verifiable revolution in agriculture. However, the Neolithic Revolution involved far more than the adoption of a limited set of food-producing techniques. During the next millennia it would transform the small and mobile groups of hunter-gatherers that had hitherto dominated human pre-history into sedentary (here meaning non-nomadic) societies based in built-up villages and towns. These societies radically modified their natural environment by means of specialized food-crop cultivation (e.g., irrigation and deforestation), and employed other technologies such as food storage, all of which allowed extensive surplus food production. These developments provided the basis for densely populated settlements, specialization and division of labour, trading economies, the development of non-portable art and architecture, centralized administrations and political structures, hierarchical ideologies, depersonalized systems of knowledge (e.g., writing), and property ownership. The first full-blown manifestation of the entire Neolithic complex is seen in the Middle Eastern Sumerian cities (5,500 BP), whose emergence also inaugurates the end of the prehistoric Neolithic period. [link to en.wikipedia.org]  Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
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(OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 50018194 United States10/13/2014 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Timeline of Religion The timeline of religion is a chronological catalog of important and note-worthy religious events in pre-historic and modern times. This article reaches extensively into pre-historic times, as the bulk of the human religious experience is not relegated to written history. Written history is only, approximately, 5000 years old (the age of formal writing). A lack of written records results in the fact that most of the knowledge about pre-historic religion is derived from archaeological records and other indirect sources, and suppositions. Much pre-historic religion is subject to continued debate. ... 3000 BCE Sumerian Cuneiform emerges from the proto-literate Uruk period, allowing the codification of beliefs and creation of detailed historical religious records. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Sumerian Creation story Thread: The Story of Atrahasis. The Sumerian Creation and Deluge Myth. Chapter 2 Great Flood Atrahasis I: Creation of Humans Quoting: Seer777 [link to faculty.gvsu.edu] This story as we have it comes from an early Babylonian version of about 1700 BC, but it certainly dates back to Sumerian times. It combines familiar Sumerian motifs of the creation of mankind and the subsequent flood. On one of the Sumerian king-lists, Atrahasis is listed as king of Shuruppak in the years before the flood. The name Atrahasis means "Extra-wise,"and is thus, as Stepanie Dalley points out, quite similar in meaning to that of Prometheus ("Forethinker"), father of the Greek flood hero Deucalion. The story begins way before Atrahasis appears on the scene, however. It starts out with the gods digging ditches. Men have not been thought of yet, so the gods had to do the work: The gods had to dig out the canals Had to clear channels, the lifelines of the land, The gods dug out the Tigris river bed And then they dug out the Euphrates. (Dalley 9) After 3,600 years of this work, the gods finally begin to complain. They decide to go on strike, burning their tools and surrounding the chief god Enlil's "dwelling" (his temple). Enlil's vizier Nusku gets Enlil out of bed and alerts him to the angry mob outside. Enlil is scared. (His face is described as being "sallow as a tamarisk.") The vizier Nusku advises Enlil to summon the other great gods, especially Anu (sky-god) and Enki (the clever god of the fresh waters). Anu advises Enlil to ascertain who is the ringleader of the rebellion. They send Nusku out to ask the mob of gods who is their leader. The mob answers, "Every single one of us gods has declared war!" (Dalley 12). Since the upper-class gods now see that the work of the lower-class gods "was too hard," they decide to sacrifice one of the rebels for the good of all. They will take one god, kill him, and make mankind by mixing the god's flesh and blood with clay: Belit-ili the womb-goddess is present, Let the womb-goddess create offspring, And let man bear the load of the gods! (Dalley 14-15) After Enki instructs them on purification rituals for the first, seventh and fifteenth of every month, the gods slaughter Geshtu-e, "a god who had intelligence" (his name means "ear" or "wisdom") and form mankind from his blood and some clay. After the birth goddess mixes the clay, all the gods troop by and spit on it(DNA). Then Enki and the womb-goddess take the clay into "the room of fate," where The womb-goddesses were assembled He [Enki] trod the clay in her presence; She kept reciting an incantation, For Enki, staying in her presence, made her recite it. When she had finished her incantation, She pinched off fourteen pieces of clay, And set seven pieces on the right, Seven on the left. Between them she put down a mud brick. (Dalley 16) The creation of man seems to be described here as being analogous or similar to the process of making bricks: tread (knead) the clay and then pinch off pieces that will become bricks. Here, the seven pieces on the right become males and the seven pieces on the left become females. The brick between the two may be a symbol of the fetus, for when the little pieces of clay are ready to be "born," their birth is described like this: When the tenth month came, She [birth-goddess] slipped in a staff and opened the womb. Just as you put a wooden spatula into a beehive-shaped brick oven to remove the bricks (like getting the pizza out when it's done), the womb-goddess or midwife uses a staff to check to see if the womb has dilated enough for birth. After the seven men and seven women are born, the birth-goddess gives rules for celebrations at birth: they should last for nine days during which a mud brick should be put down. After nine days, the husband and wife could resume conjugal relations. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
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| Seer777
(OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 50018194 United States10/13/2014 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is religion destined to go extinct? Some say yes... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 63835684 United States10/13/2014 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An aspect of persecution complex that goes largely ignored is that it is relatively easy to condition someone into having it. Once that person has it society doesn't care how they got it. They disregard them out of hand. A very evil thing to do to someone though admittedly extremely effective. |
| Seer777
(OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 50018194 United States10/13/2014 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @4:30 Will the 'One World Religion' be 'No Religion' as more and more people identify as 'Unaffiliated? Makes sense. The fast growing religious minority is the unaffiliated. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
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(OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 50018194 United States10/13/2014 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An aspect of persecution complex that goes largely ignored is that it is relatively easy to condition someone into having it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63835684 Once that person has it society doesn't care how they got it. They disregard them out of hand. A very evil thing to do to someone though admittedly extremely effective. Good morning. I think it is because it is a fundamental aspect of it. Christians are conditioned to believe that not only are they 'right', but that they will be persecuted for it. It's mentioned repeatedly. Including the 'end times' belief of being systematically exterminated that feed the delusions for those who take it literally. Everyone else, becomes a potential enemy. It breeds distrust very quickly. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
| Seer777
(OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 50018194 United States10/13/2014 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is Religion the biggest Mindfuck of all time? Why are male Islamic 'martyrs' coerced with sexual pleasure in the afterlife? The Qur'an states that all Muslim males, not only martyrs, will be rewarded with virgins. However, the Qur'an does also mention that those who fight in the way of Allah (jihad) and get killed will be given a "great reward",and there are also hasan (good) hadith which refer to 72 virgins as one of the "seven blessings from Allah" to the martyr. This has lead to the 72 virgins concept being widely used as a way to entice other Muslims into carrying out "martyrdom operations" for Islam. ... We are also given details on the physical attributes given to men to sustain 72 virgins, namely, ever-erect penises that never soften and the sexual strength to satisfy 100 [link to wikiislam.net] Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 63835684 United States10/13/2014 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An aspect of persecution complex that goes largely ignored is that it is relatively easy to condition someone into having it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63835684 Once that person has it society doesn't care how they got it. They disregard them out of hand. A very evil thing to do to someone though admittedly extremely effective. Good morning. I think it is because it is a fundamental aspect of it. Christians are conditioned to believe that not only are they 'right', but that they will be persecuted for it. It's mentioned repeatedly. Including the 'end times' belief of being systematically exterminated that feed the delusions for those who take it literally. Everyone else, becomes a potential enemy. It breeds distrust very quickly. Morn'en Pretty ingenious really, in a doctor evil sort of way. When things get bad ppl cling to religion be cause they want To believe in a sympathetic God as a last ditch effort to be saved. Then no matter what happens "glory to be God" Even being persecuted means they are a good {fill in religious designation here} and even being killed because of it means access to heaven. It's a self validating system. Like saying the bible is true because the bible says it is. |
| Seer777
(OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 50018194 United States10/13/2014 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An aspect of persecution complex that goes largely ignored is that it is relatively easy to condition someone into having it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63835684 Once that person has it society doesn't care how they got it. They disregard them out of hand. A very evil thing to do to someone though admittedly extremely effective. Good morning. I think it is because it is a fundamental aspect of it. Christians are conditioned to believe that not only are they 'right', but that they will be persecuted for it. It's mentioned repeatedly. Including the 'end times' belief of being systematically exterminated that feed the delusions for those who take it literally. Everyone else, becomes a potential enemy. It breeds distrust very quickly. Morn'en Pretty ingenious really, in a doctor evil sort of way. When things get bad ppl cling to religion be cause they want To believe in a sympathetic God as a last ditch effort to be saved. Then no matter what happens "glory to be God" Even being persecuted means they are a good {fill in religious designation here} and even being killed because of it means access to heaven. It's a self validating system. Like saying the bible is true because the bible says it is. Yes exactly. Like my example above. Enticing males with sexual pleasure is about as hard as blinking, at certain ages. Especially, in such a sexually restrictive society. And they are bribed with an 'ever erection' and sexual stamina to satisfy 100? lol. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
| Seer777
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| Seer777
(OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 50018194 United States10/13/2014 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]  Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 63835684 United States10/13/2014 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, in that sense, is the Islamic paradise when men are concerned, little more than unending vagina? Quoting: Seer777 Paradise=Vagina? Is that the message? That's a large aspect of it for sure. You know what I see when I watch footage of isis soldiers, while being violent or just idle? I see sexually frustrated men who resort to violence as a way to express themselves and their frustrations. While they constantly preach the promise of that frustration being released by compliant untouched women if they stay loyal, angry and frustrated. Just another self validating system that keeps them compliant and motivated until they are used up and dead. |
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| Seer777
(OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 50018194 United States10/13/2014 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, in that sense, is the Islamic paradise when men are concerned, little more than unending vagina? Quoting: Seer777 Paradise=Vagina? Is that the message? Probably is for most men sadly ;) I saw someone say once. That with the number of people in the world and the amount of sex we have, that the 'human orgasm' is constantly occurring. Most likely around the clock. Huge amounts of 'sexual energy' constantly pumping out. No pun intended. Say God could 'feel/see everything', would that place God in a constant orgasm state? Why do some say, Oh God! when orgasming? Or at least think it...  Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
| Seer777
(OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 50018194 United States10/13/2014 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, in that sense, is the Islamic paradise when men are concerned, little more than unending vagina? Quoting: Seer777 Paradise=Vagina? Is that the message? That's a large aspect of it for sure. You know what I see when I watch footage of isis soldiers, while being violent or just idle? I see sexually frustrated men who resort to violence as a way to express themselves and their frustrations. While they constantly preach the promise of that frustration being released by compliant untouched women if they stay loyal, angry and frustrated. Just another self validating system that keeps them compliant and motivated until they are used up and dead. Yes. And with the extremely sexual frustrated, strange behavior(s) arise. We see this with blatant bestiality and the recent video released of a goat and Isis soldier. And pedophilia. As the Catholic Church and Islam is no stranger to. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 63835684 United States10/13/2014 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, in that sense, is the Islamic paradise when men are concerned, little more than unending vagina? Quoting: Seer777 Paradise=Vagina? Is that the message? That's a large aspect of it for sure. You know what I see when I watch footage of isis soldiers, while being violent or just idle? I see sexually frustrated men who resort to violence as a way to express themselves and their frustrations. While they constantly preach the promise of that frustration being released by compliant untouched women if they stay loyal, angry and frustrated. Just another self validating system that keeps them compliant and motivated until they are used up and dead. Yes. And with the extremely sexual frustrated, strange behavior(s) arise. We see this with blatant bestiality and the recent video released of a goat and Isis soldier. And pedophilia. As the Catholic Church and Islam is no stranger to. Right. We're thinking/seeing the same things. Even from different gender specific pov's. Though real objectivity should be genderless by definition. The problem is you can't get everyone to be objective because for some objectivity literally means eternal damnation. |
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| Seer777
(OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 50018194 United States10/13/2014 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, in that sense, is the Islamic paradise when men are concerned, little more than unending vagina? Quoting: Seer777 Paradise=Vagina? Is that the message? That's a large aspect of it for sure. You know what I see when I watch footage of isis soldiers, while being violent or just idle? I see sexually frustrated men who resort to violence as a way to express themselves and their frustrations. While they constantly preach the promise of that frustration being released by compliant untouched women if they stay loyal, angry and frustrated. Just another self validating system that keeps them compliant and motivated until they are used up and dead. Yes. And with the extremely sexual frustrated, strange behavior(s) arise. We see this with blatant bestiality and the recent video released of a goat and Isis soldier. And pedophilia. As the Catholic Church and Islam is no stranger to. Right. We're thinking/seeing the same things. Even from different gender specific pov's. Though real objectivity should be genderless by definition. The problem is you can't get everyone to be objective because for some objectivity literally means eternal damnation. Very true. Especially with 'forced worship'. What is that anyway? How terrible not to be able to decide for oneself what to believe. But instead have it forced upon you due the place of your birth. Can you imagine all Americans being 'called to prayer' repeatedly during the day? Everyday? Forced to fast for days? Freedom of religion is a gift, Freedom from religion is enlightenment. Lighten the load. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
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| Seer777
(OP) Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 50018194 United States10/13/2014 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not really one to buy any of that. Not to say it hasn't happened. But I think much of what people believe regarding, to be far more fairytale than Truth. Blood sacrifice? Christianity is based on it. Then the sing and drink the blood and eat the body. Bizarre. Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 57260171 United States10/13/2014 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | maybe you should do some research. it is all right in your face. Perhaps you are part of it? [link to www.theopenscroll.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 63835684 United States10/13/2014 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63835684 That's a large aspect of it for sure. You know what I see when I watch footage of isis soldiers, while being violent or just idle? I see sexually frustrated men who resort to violence as a way to express themselves and their frustrations. While they constantly preach the promise of that frustration being released by compliant untouched women if they stay loyal, angry and frustrated. Just another self validating system that keeps them compliant and motivated until they are used up and dead. Yes. And with the extremely sexual frustrated, strange behavior(s) arise. We see this with blatant bestiality and the recent video released of a goat and Isis soldier. And pedophilia. As the Catholic Church and Islam is no stranger to. Right. We're thinking/seeing the same things. Even from different gender specific pov's. Though real objectivity should be genderless by definition. The problem is you can't get everyone to be objective because for some objectivity literally means eternal damnation. Very true. Especially with 'forced worship'. What is that anyway? How terrible not to be able to decide for oneself what to believe. But instead have it forced upon you due the place of your birth. Can you imagine all Americans being 'called to prayer' repeatedly during the day? Everyday? Forced to fast for days? Freedom of religion is a gift, Freedom from religion is enlightenment. Lighten the load. I'm murican and proud of it...I can't imagine not getting myself killed or imprisoned in a situation like that.  |
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